< 1726099440 427511 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1726099569 476406 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1726099968 442652 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@83.223.234.132 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1726101619 43563 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement > 1726104765 871756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:By+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138820 5* 03Ais523 5* (+396) 10/* Implementation */ new section < 1726107076 791749 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@83.223.234.132 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726107569 994373 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@83.223.234.132 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale > 1726108027 42811 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138821 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+2025) 10Created page with "This is [[User:PkmnQ]]'s solution to [[Final Word Of The Day]]. == Execution == The program stores data in named miniprograms, which can be edited and ran inside the main program. All miniprograms start empty. At the beginning of the program, the inpu < 1726110036 340530 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1726111879 523679 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1726111892 457524 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1726111961 900209 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1726112049 426480 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@83.223.234.132 QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1726112138 867240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Gora10]] to [[-(anor)]] > 1726112293 672322 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138824&oldid=138822 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-767) 10 > 1726112305 37802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02-(anor)10]] to [[-(anor^2)]] > 1726112703 296290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138827&oldid=138825 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+181) 10 > 1726112837 553806 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138828&oldid=138827 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+45) 10/* Syntax */ > 1726112847 783870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138829&oldid=138828 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Syntax */ > 1726113018 703620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138830&oldid=138829 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-58) 10 > 1726113197 345954 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138831&oldid=138830 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+80) 10 > 1726113217 35356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138832&oldid=138831 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Syntax */ < 1726114329 319921 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] ipadwwwww > 1726114482 820516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138833 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+116) 10Created page with "damn. damn thats cool. holeee [~~~~]" < 1726114612 647928 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Client Quit < 1726114710 330900 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] ipadwwwww < 1726114914 907610 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua JOIN #esolangs Europe2048 :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 < 1726114950 422074 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua QUIT :Client Quit > 1726115487 787692 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:081514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138834&oldid=51052 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+200) 10/* Language Details are not clear */ > 1726115778 946340 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138835&oldid=138797 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+48) 10See also > 1726115875 251380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138836&oldid=138821 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+110) 10Categories < 1726115925 105930 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeee look at dis: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day/PkmnQ < 1726115928 693831 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ppl so fast < 1726116374 374835 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726116429 320380 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726116435 883489 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :contiuing my message < 1726116440 469550 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if prooved < 1726116453 599153 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would you do to make it TC? > 1726116550 386475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OFFICIAL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138837&oldid=136748 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10 < 1726116613 824790 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Client Quit < 1726118246 189600 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1726118359 319350 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1726118927 904547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Larry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138838&oldid=137316 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-9) 10this...this is not a stub < 1726118947 21918 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726120951 518077 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam > 1726122392 960236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138839&oldid=138836 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+256) 10not a solution > 1726122636 774235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138840&oldid=138833 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+191) 10 < 1726123002 219132 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in < 1726123044 78168 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1726124345 904530 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1726124421 56720 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "the custom Google search API, they've indexed the wiki anyway" => that may help with Funciton, but some of the article titles on this wiki are so stupid that even google won't search for them < 1726124544 474029 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: heck, in fact I just tried google and it tells me it's searching for “function site:esolangs org” and click on this small text link if I really mean “funciton site:esolangs.org”. < 1726124579 580345 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though even with the default spelling correction, it still gives Funciton as the second result > 1726125228 357737 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages (T-Z)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138841&oldid=138764 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+36) 10 > 1726125264 588030 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages (T-Z)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138842&oldid=138841 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1) 10 < 1726126396 655044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1726126744 521080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138843&oldid=138288 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+42) 10/* syntax */ > 1726126859 106670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138844&oldid=138843 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+13) 10 < 1726128603 155030 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1726128879 257111 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1726130719 888058 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138845&oldid=138809 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-5) 10 > 1726130769 448248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138846&oldid=138845 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-67) 10 > 1726130818 257402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138847&oldid=138846 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Esolangs */ > 1726130937 652663 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138848&oldid=138847 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-27) 10/* Esolangs */ < 1726131118 517279 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1726132226 357360 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1726133187 621352 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138849&oldid=136555 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-7) 10 > 1726133252 740532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138850&oldid=138849 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+7) 10 > 1726133600 997430 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OCBscriptOCBCCBCCB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138851&oldid=137212 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-7) 10 > 1726133630 579892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OCBscriptOCBCCBCCB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138852&oldid=138851 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-32) 10 > 1726133969 617861 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*&&^14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138853&oldid=135862 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Syntax */ > 1726133988 269839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*&&^14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138854&oldid=138853 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Eaxmples */ > 1726134149 53565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FlipFlop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138855&oldid=138741 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Implementetion */ > 1726134190 896669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FlipFlop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138856&oldid=138855 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* I don't even know what to type here */ > 1726134411 203137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138857&oldid=137706 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-9) 10 > 1726134536 882359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pyline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138858&oldid=121791 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1355) 10/* Brainfuck interpreter */ > 1726136419 219304 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138859&oldid=138475 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+426) 10 > 1726136504 739947 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138860&oldid=138859 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+12) 10 > 1726136560 981828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138861&oldid=138860 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+0) 10/* Example programs */ > 1726136985 898087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138862&oldid=138861 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (-1) 10/* Example programs */ > 1726138217 719462 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138863&oldid=138862 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (-66) 10/* Mechanics */ > 1726138450 441814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138864&oldid=138863 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+98) 10/* Mechanics */ > 1726138527 65060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138865&oldid=138864 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+0) 10/* Mechanics */ > 1726138596 598458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138866&oldid=138865 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+3) 10/* Mechanics */ > 1726138672 455895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138867&oldid=138866 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+31) 10/* Mechanics */ > 1726138702 829491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07-(anor^2)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138868&oldid=138832 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10 > 1726138971 524645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:WhatLang dices.png10]]" > 1726139065 427198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138870&oldid=138867 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+381) 10/* Example programs */ > 1726139563 581373 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138871&oldid=138870 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+19) 10/* Example programs */ > 1726141193 411975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138872&oldid=138478 5* 03None1 5* (+32) 10 < 1726141594 555996 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1726141788 880362 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138873&oldid=138871 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+167) 10 > 1726141806 819298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138874&oldid=138873 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+7) 10 > 1726141840 208115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138875&oldid=138874 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1) 10 > 1726142476 247763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138876&oldid=138433 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10testing > 1726142548 287241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138877&oldid=138872 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10testing < 1726142599 425173 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1726142743 426794 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User < 1726143216 21911 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1726143773 143394 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1726144175 200343 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1726144313 822793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138878&oldid=138875 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+115) 10/* Instructions */ > 1726144626 797541 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138879&oldid=138878 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+36) 10 < 1726147479 320498 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726147516 629252 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Client Quit < 1726147735 321523 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726147820 399402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Client Quit < 1726147832 319713 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726147840 737260 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello > 1726148348 617270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138880&oldid=138844 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-170) 10/* examples */ > 1726148489 393851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138881&oldid=138840 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+121) 10 < 1726148660 973531 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726149155 319308 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1726149352 442645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07081514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138882&oldid=58725 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+48) 10/* Computational class */ the proof needs unbounded to be TC > 1726149425 764577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138883&oldid=138801 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10 < 1726149728 480146 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1726150014 943351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1726151462 426255 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1726151482 344193 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:An Odd Rewriting System14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138884&oldid=137632 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+104) 10/* what was the limitation */ < 1726151546 535635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :agian to continue my message(seems nobody saw it) but what would you do to making OFFICIAL TC? > 1726152435 511884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138885 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+261) 10Created page with "'''WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators''' or '''WCTVCUO''' is a esolang by [[User:Yayimhere]]. the only change from [[Unlambda]] is that he only operators are c and v with another operator: .xy cre > 1726152498 802140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138886&oldid=138885 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10 < 1726152674 229716 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get feedback?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/WC_is_a_toilet_but_v,_and_c_are_Unlambda_operators < 1726153592 841537 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1726153673 174072 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz < 1726154117 528043 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: What does this change about Unlambda? Are some things now easier to express? Harder to read? < 1726154141 817125 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its more limited and harder to use < 1726154374 629604 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I misread. You've *removed* syntax. I see. < 1726154434 198459 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1726154544 415486 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is a fairly weak fragment. I'm gonna use category theory; v is the constant arrow to the terminal object and c is the standard call/cc over some continuation monad (perhaps the initial such monad?) < 1726154583 766337 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then it's folklore that you can't build S or K from this. Continuation monads can't do anything besides be applied at some location; they don't introduce or eliminate type constructors. < 1726154914 204778 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would you then need to add? > 1726154956 504137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WCTVCUO14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138887 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+64) 10Redirected page to [[WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators]] < 1726154988 762050 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make it TC < 1726154996 954057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if this isnt TC(i assume it is) < 1726155038 368134 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usually for combinators I'd look for a *fixed-point combinator < 1726155057 815645 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So something like Z, Y, U, or Turing's bird. > 1726155167 374609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138888&oldid=138800 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+57) 10 > 1726155230 974389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138889&oldid=138888 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+33) 10 < 1726155236 566124 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you haven't seen it, we have a nice table of combinators: https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Bird_sociology < 1726155245 302032 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1726155279 534319 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ik about dat > 1726155403 662439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138890&oldid=138889 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-47) 10/* eoslangs */ > 1726155409 499513 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138891&oldid=138890 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+47) 10/* things about me */ < 1726155513 928854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i rlly love dis eoslang: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day/PkmnQ < 1726155564 563526 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*esolang < 1726155596 354179 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1726155804 442091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you guys think? < 1726156068 841954 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1726156128 424503 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1726156241 398624 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.203.168 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1726156247 403044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello ais523 < 1726156250 630652 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's alright. Reminds me of f-exprs, as in Lisps like Kernel. < 1726156438 837278 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi wWwwW < 1726156446 754324 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doin gud? < 1726156475 190391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been thinking about an esolang < 1726156483 747087 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :need to write some program fragments to make sure it works < 1726156489 305450 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which one < 1726156496 412727 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait one you make yourself < 1726156512 15605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, although this one is a simple variation on a couple of existing ones < 1726156516 618234 :fowl8!~fowl@user/fowl JOIN #esolangs fowl :fowl < 1726156524 24019 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1726156528 14440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's harder to prove TC but I think it still is < 1726156537 474944 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :awww:( < 1726156548 470877 :shikhin_!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin < 1726156548 649807 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: oh wow, a sitenotice < 1726156575 13098 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726156610 319634 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726156612 998009 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: do you maintain the wiki hardware, too? < 1726156613 485608 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: which implementation? i want their names. ultra10s are named after toys in toy story, but sid is the only free piece of code < 1726156614 180658 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the hell. why did a disconnect < 1726156616 317967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well < 1726156629 690751 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this happens a lot on IRC, in my experience < 1726156632 679759 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially to me < 1726156644 876520 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo, if you like stuff like f-exprs and Kernel, check out Smalltalk-72 < 1726156648 760575 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to me its so rare < 1726156652 817137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LIKE VERY RARE < 1726156662 792976 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rarer than me geting ads(see my talk page lol) < 1726156704 112446 :jix_!~jix@user/jix JOIN #esolangs jix :Jannis Harder < 1726156710 647817 :sprout_!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1726156725 437463 :__monty_1!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1726156823 855236 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway < 1726156872 697643 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: There's been such an uptick in the frequency of edits that I thought it'd be polite to put up a note, just so nobody spends an hour polishing an edit and is then unable to save it. < 1726156920 139543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you program in this?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/2_Player < 1726156925 207907 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: it does make sense < 1726156962 728856 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on my own server I normally check the logs to see whether anyone is connected before doing maintenance, but that only works because there's an explicit "connected" state, it isn't like a wiki where you can just submit pages whenever < 1726157003 727238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW, that's a bit confusing that it starts on the left edge and goes left. Is there wraparound? < 1726157011 995177 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157012 789142 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157013 142806 :pikhq!sid394595@user/meow/pikhq QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157013 742436 :op_4!~tslil@user/op-4/x-9116473 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157013 785587 :fowl!~fowl@user/fowl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157014 494721 :integral!sid296274@user/integral QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157014 832527 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157015 137160 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157015 900853 :shikhin!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157016 429919 :jix!~jix@user/jix QUIT :*.net *.split < 1726157016 946364 :fowl8!~fowl@user/fowl NICK :fowl < 1726157017 98762 :shikhin_!~shikhin@ahti.space NICK :shikhin < 1726157021 680954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oo yea < 1726157025 992937 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it halts if off edge < 1726157028 139002 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :need to add < 1726157077 388378 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That, uh. Trivializes the language. Always halts immediately. > 1726157087 205761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138892&oldid=138633 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+126) 10 < 1726157090 620830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wait, no, first command might take effect < 1726157117 314189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait < 1726157123 657477 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :more command ideas < 1726157125 141031 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not clear how the language usefully stores data < 1726157163 438988 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a common way for languages to fail TCness is "when the amount of stored data gets too large, there is no way to read the full amount of the data" (I did that intentionally when writing BuzzFizz) < 1726157176 754831 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well < 1726157184 504621 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the grid expands with commands < 1726157189 92885 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need to write that < 1726157194 208043 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also commands that only work once generally aren't very useful, unless they are needed for program startup < 1726157322 67663 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For general interest: the "maintenance" is for setting up MariaDB replication, so that I'll have a local copy that's in the order of at most a few minutes old, rather than just the weekly one. Getting it started involves making a copy of the database and recording the current binlog position in such a way that they're consistent with each other. < 1726157353 106632 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you mean ais523 < 1726157430 593588 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: well, a program that "demonstrates TCness" needs to be able to potentially run forever, that means it can't rely on commands that only work once < 1726157448 197999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they...dont < 1726157450 245425 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :... < 1726157463 462020 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION updates their local backup of the wiki
< 1726157482 380532 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just in case < 1726157482 586167 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut < 1726157524 854806 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the early days of the wiki, we were worried it might go offline – esolang content had a habit of doing that and we wanted the wiki to preserve the content < 1726157535 686259 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1726157536 687457 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1726157537 164595 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so, lots of us made backups of it so that we could restore it if something went wrong < 1726157559 22011 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure how many people are still doing that, but it doesn't hurt to do it on occasion, especially if there's about to be major maintenance done > 1726157661 535112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138893&oldid=138892 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+377) 10 < 1726157669 408570 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :done with the new commands < 1726157708 76137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think now < 1726157942 607235 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 what wo you think now? < 1726157972 600492 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a bit difficult to work out at short notice < 1726157991 568387 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :! and X are the new commands < 1726157996 79453 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you like to make your esolangs difficult, which is fine, but that means that people will need to spend a lot of time to think about them < 1726158013 901952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1726158021 796992 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has an explination < 1726158029 760279 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk if anybody wants to hear it < 1726158035 533198 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still don't see how it stores data, though < 1726158044 930299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in code < 1726158048 603765 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, you should clarify whether the data pointer runs / responds to commands < 1726158051 616455 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since you can modify code > 1726158081 621135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138894&oldid=138893 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+15) 10 < 1726158093 142698 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I see, and then the data pointer has a larger area to wrap in < 1726158098 568972 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok fixed the mirror thing < 1726158139 673970 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k ais523 < 1726158457 774670 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION almost writes an unless-else statement, then thinks better of it
< 1726158488 848747 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I can write unless-next, that makes more sense > 1726158493 816532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138895&oldid=138894 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+339) 10 < 1726158504 609150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :done with 2P!! < 1726158547 985189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think < 1726158943 935712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no > 1726158978 422289 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138896&oldid=138895 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+495) 10 < 1726158986 401616 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now i am < 1726158990 934960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think < 1726159151 326846 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.203.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1726159293 54910 :__monty_1!~toonn@user/toonn NICK :__monty__ < 1726160488 700980 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :locally euclidean earth society < 1726160488 750603 :pikhq!sid394595@user/meow/pikhq JOIN #esolangs pikhq :Ada Worcester < 1726160488 750697 :op_4!~tslil@user/op-4/x-9116473 JOIN #esolangs op_4 :op_4 < 1726160488 750828 :integral!sid296274@user/integral JOIN #esolangs integral :bsmith < 1726160488 750857 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 JOIN #esolangs Corbin :korvo < 1726160676 263544 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think now ais523 > 1726160750 317457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138897&oldid=138896 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+8) 10/* commands */ > 1726161103 738089 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138898&oldid=138880 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+12) 10/* examples */ < 1726161140 877814 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :offtopia/offtopian > 1726161221 780869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138899&oldid=138898 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+41) 10/* examples */ > 1726161337 789403 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138900&oldid=138382 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+43) 10 > 1726161366 167488 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138901&oldid=138897 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-12) 10/* commands */ > 1726161396 810214 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138902&oldid=138901 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+12) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/138901|138901]] by [[Special:Contributions/Yayimhere|Yayimhere]] ([[User talk:Yayimhere|talk]]) > 1726161407 955350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138903&oldid=138902 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-41) 10/* commands */ > 1726161430 760986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138904&oldid=138903 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-33) 10/* commands */ > 1726161603 139093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138905&oldid=138886 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+16) 10 < 1726161942 706353 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I was netsplit, so maybe I missed it, but do you have ` or is this purely strings of c and v? < 1726161961 319381 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1726161967 876643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like to include it < 1726161975 188671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but ` sint a operator < 1726161977 152031 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :... < 1726161978 587425 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right? > 1726162049 736507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turning tarpit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138906&oldid=96989 5* 03Ais523 5* (+163) 10/* Overview of the Genre */ mention Advance The Wheel! < 1726162053 867902 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a parenthesis. It's the ability to make trees of combinators and not only strings. < 1726162061 241355 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1726162064 288616 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok i will add < 1726162070 988916 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait a sec < 1726162420 319044 :wWwwW19!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1726162494 563969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138907&oldid=138905 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+31) 10 < 1726162498 682705 :wWwwW19!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did it! < 1726162551 319572 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1726163086 15502 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138908&oldid=138899 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10/* examples */ < 1726163139 319596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1726163333 319538 :wWwwW19!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1726163338 946798 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea < 1726163547 924481 :sprout_!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net NICK :sprout > 1726164028 949521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:081514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138909&oldid=138834 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+111) 10/* proof of TCness incorrect */ > 1726164465 307674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138910&oldid=138479 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* ~~ hexadecimal format */ < 1726164778 259756 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1726165829 254688 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1726165893 438849 :dcreager!a9e780c4d1@2a03:6000:1812:100::136b JOIN #esolangs dcreager :Douglas Creager < 1726166378 533267 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726166946 333357 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-155-106-106.range86-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1726169010 985801 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1726169626 31232 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02-(anor^2)10]] to [[User:Ractangle/TSYALFIC]] > 1726169780 711168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/TSYALFIC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138913&oldid=138911 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-257) 10 > 1726169853 824229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/TSYALFIC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138914&oldid=138913 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10 < 1726170586 148613 :molson_!~molson@2001-48F8-704A-446-8279-9F4D-13F3-127A-dynamic.midco.net JOIN #esolangs molson :realname < 1726170789 457594 :molson!~molson@2001-48F8-704A-446-8CEC-FAD3-F2AA-CB7D-dynamic.midco.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1726171167 369093 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-155-106-106.range86-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1726173977 679458 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1726176462 772120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138915&oldid=138835 5* 030ptr 5* (+1) 10grammar < 1726176669 335538 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1726177003 795556 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138916&oldid=138915 5* 030ptr 5* (+23) 10improve wording < 1726177029 79012 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can setcontext and pthreads be used together in the same program? < 1726177181 741062 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, is there a better way if the signal mask is not needed for contexts? < 1726177917 386242 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.163.238 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1726177923 194459 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think it can be, but if you want to do that sort of thing I recommend that you look at libcoro "http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/libcoro.html" which abstracts context switching with multiple different backends including setcontext as one of the backends < 1726177939 305837 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1726178565 331250 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.163.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1726178621 811384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flow of Holes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138917&oldid=130106 5* 03Ais523 5* (+33) 10/* See also */ cat > 1726178643 372583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bouncy Counters14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138918 5* 03Ais523 5* (+9745) 10new language! > 1726178686 8469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138919&oldid=138280 5* 03Ais523 5* (+22) 10/* B */ +[[Bouncy Counters]] > 1726178716 866535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138920&oldid=137675 5* 03Ais523 5* (+21) 10+[[Bouncy Counters]] > 1726178735 505591 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flow of Holes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138921&oldid=138917 5* 03Ais523 5* (+22) 10/* See also */ +[[Bouncy Counters]] < 1726178777 170541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Smalltalk-72 isn't an esolang, and isn't.... weird enough compared to Forth, but... it's still weird that I wish I could write about it somewhere esolang adjacent < 1726178906 600473 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: some people use userspace on Esolang for that sort of thing < 1726178921 125044 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. I think zzo38 has a list of non-esoteric languages that have esoteric aspects < 1726179086 978405 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you're writing mainly about the esoteric aspects you can probably get away with writing an article about any language, even respected good non-esoteric ones < 1726179140 681139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION looks up fexpr to reorient himselff
< 1726179162 800513 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"All functions are fexprs" is weird but... not unique probably < 1726179200 764105 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the more I learn about Rust's parser, the more esoteric I start to think its syntax is < 1726179249 814709 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems like Rust started with a highly ambiguous syntax and then started putting special-case patches into the parser and lexer until it started parsing ambiguous things the way the implementors expected – I don't think many languages do that < 1726179253 726767 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Perl does it, but it does so openly) < 1726179286 423166 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of the ambiguities are funny but don't really matter, e.g. «4.0» is a float constant, «4 .0» is the first field of 4 interpreted as a tuple < 1726179372 400243 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but some are more interesting, like putting a struct literal in the control variable of an if or match (with «match Identifier { … }» the { … } could belong to either the match statement or to the identifier) < 1726179425 427470 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and some are just confusing, e.g. .. is both an operator that applies to two values of the same type, and a value, so you can write .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. and it means something (and apparently has precedence rules so that there is one "official" parse of it) > 1726179814 875759 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138922&oldid=57329 5* 03Ais523 5* (+24) 10/* See also */ +[[Reversible Bitfuck]] < 1726179946 982887 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the floating point ambiguity exists in other languages too. In python, 3.E2 is a floating-point literal with 2 as the decimal exponent, while 3 .E2 tries to access the attribute E2 of the integer 3 > 1726179953 860509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bouncy Counters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138923&oldid=138918 5* 03Ais523 5* (+57) 10/* See also */ +[[[[Reversible Brainfuck#Unbounded cells, bounded tape]] < 1726180013 891396 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C++ encountered this when they added user-defined numeric literals, which are syntactically written as a numeric literal immediately followed by an identifier suffix, but since hex number literals can end in a hex digit, this could be ambiguous < 1726180019 608809 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I wonder if .e2 parses as 0.0e2 (and, consequently, is a zero) in any language. < 1726180061 237834 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(`.0e2` certainly does.) < 1726180083 297973 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "in any language" probably < 1726180182 504859 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I thought C++ required an extra underscore in order to make that work < 1726180184 943991 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I heard about the braces ambiguity with if/while body, I think that is important enough that every rust programmer encounter it, and as such it's a normal syntax rule and less a dangerou ambiguity < 1726180198 888946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently the rule has changed over time < 1726180217 433637 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nowadays there are required parentheses around the condition if the block doesn't belong to the control flow statement, but that wasn't always the rule < 1726180362 521964 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :".. is both an operator that applies to two values of the same type, and a value" => that's not realy scary, many languages have things that are both infix operators and start of an expression, and they just parse left to right and then it's not ambiguous. the problem here is that .. can be a *suffix operator* with nothing after it or an infix operator < 1726180476 238972 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :1..2e2 < 1726180534 785872 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also an expression alone and a prefix operator < 1726180569 96788 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I've decided that the clearest syntax for ranges uses ..^ (from Perl 6) for exclusive ranges and ..= (from Rust) for inclusive ranges < 1726180576 362715 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that way you don't get confused upon seeing a plain .. < 1726180596 895196 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would also distinguish the infix operator from the suffix operator (but the infix and prefix versions would still be the same) < 1726180615 357158 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm > 1726180742 380782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bit bucket14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138924 5* 03Ais523 5* (+3085) 10it's about time this concept was documented there are quite a few redlinks to it < 1726180964 706237 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Hmm, I wonder if .e2 parses as 0.0e2 (and, consequently, is a zero) in any language. ← in Jelly, a . on its own parses as 0.5; that means that the equivalent of .e2 parses as 50.0 (however, it uses ȷ as its scientific notation separator rather than e) < 1726181402 164926 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1726181491 657097 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aw, I forgot to do `flush tables with read lock;` when getting the binlog position. I may need to do that read-only thing again. :/ < 1726181635 405043 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.163.238 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1726181669 20042 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feel free < 1726181715 467147 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've finished my big edits for the time being < 1726181723 54766 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it's been reasonably quiet now. < 1726181728 906027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I started writing before the maintenance window, then did something else for a few hours, and finished afterwards) < 1726181834 876532 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also it's weird to see the site notice just appear and disappear like that, without a MediaWiki: page being edited (I know you can set it in the MediaWiki config too) < 1726182098 306352 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: clearly there has to be a way to add a site notice if something is broken or the wiki is already in a read-only mode and you can't edit a MediaWiki: page < 1726182136 366243 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and fizzie probably has access on the server to do that < 1726182200 111364 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably happens less on larger mediawiki sites where there are more active wiki admins who don't have computer admin rights < 1726182223 209177 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have to set $wgReadOnly in the config anyway to _make_ it read-only. < 1726182271 399155 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It went by a lot quicker now that I wasn't at work getting distracted by work things. < 1726182658 198489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is it weird that I think Smalltalk-72's conditionals are weird? (a => (b) => c) means if a then b else c, with an asymmetrical then/else thing that ... makes me think a bit of Swift guard, and makes if/elseif/else easy, like (a => (b) c => (d) e) < 1726182686 866218 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I keep wavering between thinking it's unusual and thinking it's just if/elif/else < 1726182846 830928 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: wait what? what's the syntax for the if-else? what you wrote is confusing < 1726182869 79510 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :a => (b) c < 1726182877 223988 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok that looks more reasonable, < 1726182887 630521 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :if a is not false, execute/return b, otherwise return the rest of the expression < 1726182912 450601 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I guess I miswrote it above < 1726182932 696248 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though it's still strange because Smalltalk is supposed to have built-in syntax to pass lambda closures as a method argument, which means they can just have if-else as an ordinary method on booleans < 1726182950 821830 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and need no special syntax for it < 1726183005 978890 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the arrow is kind of old style and gone out of fashion (which I don't mind), but I don't think it's too strange < 1726183069 719498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Smalltalk-72 is before blocks. Functions and objects are basically the same, and the way to make an object that responds to different messages is a long if/else chai < 1726183072 14001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :chain < 1726183076 995894 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems quite common for modern programming languages to use both -> and => but for different things < 1726183093 165100 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it's *before* blocks syntax? < 1726183106 537871 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know it was called smalltalk before that < 1726183173 267596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://smalltalkzoo.thechm.org/HOPL-St72.html emulator on the web, although it's a bit imperfect, I don't think it responds to clicks. https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/smalltalk/Smalltalk-72_Instruction_Manual_Mar76.pdf manual < 1726183204 719061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :to if exp (:exp?(%then?(:exp. %else?(:". exp)exp)error "(no then)) < 1726183204 884962 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs : %then?(:". %else?(:exp) false)error "(no then)) < 1726183204 897173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs : 'The ALGOL if ... then ... else ...' < 1726183229 458882 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry? < 1726183231 709051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :... I'm not actually going to try to understand that > 1726183246 971050 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138925&oldid=138879 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1122) 10/* Example programs */ < 1726183247 394194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess that arrow is encoded in ASCII as % < 1726183259 210589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :to is how to define new functions/classes < 1726183267 720820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Apparently like Logo but I don't know Logo) < 1726183345 207212 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/pablomarx/Smalltalk72/blob/a1efa79e5ba678a0bf550ba6797f36013f59e507/system/ALLDEFS#L229 < 1726183372 177150 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Definition of falseclass. Actually a primitive but string as comment shows definiton < 1726183399 432730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Eyeball symbol is true and consumes the next token if the next token in the message matches the thing after eyeball < 1726183415 578512 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I only ever used the turtle-moving parts of Logo, and repeat-n loops, but apparently it's object-oriented? < 1726183437 984883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :: evaluates something in the message. So you can see how it's an if/else chain for how false should respond to messages < 1726183594 977865 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :? in the if/then/else thing I pasted above is the arrow operator thing. % is eyeball. The Github link is easier to read than trying to paste in here < 1726183724 65941 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I have to admit that does look like very old style code < 1726183741 316278 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they probably learned some of that from forth < 1726183759 459631 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean can you still say after that that smalltalk isn't related to forth? < 1726184891 680639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://worrydream.com/EarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk/ says that it was inspired by FLEX, PLANNER, LOGO, META II < 1726184915 590701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and Lisp, but I think that's mentioned elsewhere in that page) < 1726184977 800634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :". My next question was, why on earth call it a functional language? Why not just base everything on FEXPRs and force evaluation on the receiving side when needed? "