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< 1727310280 10839 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
> 1727310385 536630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Smalltalk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140775&oldid=140772 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+230) 10
> 1727310546 22535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Memorial language list14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140776 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+219) 10Created page with "This is a fourth list that lists memorial languages, i.e. ones that are memorial of 9/11, world war II, any major online war event, etc. == Non-Alphanumeric == [[bbtos|BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX]] == 0-9 == == A-Z =="
> 1727310921 857725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bits, 0 Bytes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140777&oldid=136843 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+100) 10/* Command */
> 1727310940 801823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bits, 0 Bytes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140778&oldid=140777 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+3) 10/* Commands */
> 1727311120 32402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140779 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+745) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=[[File:Snakel_logo.png|20px|alt=Snakel]]}} {{stub}} :''This is an interpretation made by [[User:DifferentDance8]] and thus may or may not be accurate to the actual language''  [[File:Snakel_logo.png|20px|alt=Snakel]] is an esolang that would've 
> 1727311171 308138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140780&oldid=140779 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+93) 10
> 1727311278 81350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140781&oldid=140441 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+231) 10/* I was born 3 years before you! */ new section
> 1727312353 592863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140782&oldid=130046 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1117) 10biggest update in years
< 1727312363 393671 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.160.199 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale
> 1727312381 468777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140783&oldid=140781 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+217) 10/* I was born 3 years before you! */
< 1727312399 913499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well this is fun. >+++++++[-[-[->>[+>]+<[<]<]+>+[>]]>+<<] takes over 3 ↑ 8135830269 steps.
> 1727312400 21609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140784&oldid=139932 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+13) 10
< 1727312508 455238 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Oh wow. Congrats. This is exciting stuff indeed. Those [>] and [<] sleds are suggestive.
< 1727312659 126917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I had an inspiration for implementing a bastardized Ackermann function)
< 1727312730 486414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck it even works with byte-sized cells
< 1727312743 546554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the one number that grows really big is stored in unary
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< 1727313258 481753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh the +< can be replaced by just +
> 1727315047 487708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140785 5* 03Int-e 5* (+1693) 10analysis of a busy Brainfuck program
< 1727315059 699974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: for you: https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Int-e/BFBB
< 1727315270 206259 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'm cackling with delight. Well done.
> 1727315364 863924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140786&oldid=140785 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10fox typo
> 1727315477 928258 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140787&oldid=140715 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+45) 10
> 1727315900 292805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140788&oldid=140786 5* 03Int-e 5* (+160) 10Oh this would be better.
< 1727316347 269017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: obviously I'm wondering whether I'm reinventing a wheel here. it's hard to search for such things
> 1727316512 956427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140789&oldid=140787 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+37) 10
> 1727316624 143744 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140790&oldid=140788 5* 03Int-e 5* (+17) 10fix another typo-of-sorts
< 1727316806 556299 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's new to me, at least.
> 1727318331 738152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140791&oldid=140790 5* 03Int-e 5* (+479) 10Actually analysing the modified version was surprisingly easy.
< 1727318502 518290 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Not sure if you see esolangs, I updated the page with a 37 character candidate (instead of 38) that has almost the same number of steps.
< 1727318513 659142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should sleep though.
< 1727318598 288683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I actually don't know whether that will result in more steps or fewer; probably fewer, but it'll be close anyway)
> 1727318657 466421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140792&oldid=140791 5* 03Int-e 5* (+2) 10no longer a TODO
> 1727318697 176387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140793&oldid=140792 5* 03Int-e 5* (-5) 10/* About */ ...grammar
> 1727318996 818386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03MihaiEso 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:PIX logo.png10]]": [[PIX]]'s official logo. Created by [[User:MihaiEso|myself!]]
> 1727318998 223041 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Category:198610]]": unapproved category (and redundant to existing categories)
< 1727319230 154026 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah, I see them. Have a good night.
> 1727319336 204977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071L14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140795&oldid=138806 5* 03Ais523 5* (+15) 10+[[Turn Left]]
< 1727319868 406678 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit
> 1727319988 290079 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140796&oldid=140789 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+974) 10Added official logo, as PNG and PIX!
> 1727320025 182953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140797&oldid=140796 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+3) 10/* Minecraft official site favicon */
> 1727320997 232025 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140798&oldid=140750 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+6) 10/* Bf loop equivalent */ I'd meant "relay point"
< 1727321980 487841 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord
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> 1727322037 519812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140799&oldid=128490 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+968) 10/* commands */
< 1727322063 590951 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1727322538 798555 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140800&oldid=140709 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+141) 10Added some languages, still too few
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> 1727326304 35627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140801&oldid=76896 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+91) 10/* A seperate algorithm page? */
> 1727326426 703561 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Macro14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140802 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+46) 10Created page with "can macros be nested. can i do:  a -> (a -> b)"
> 1727327917 660148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140803&oldid=140782 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+52) 10/* ^ENGLISH */
> 1727327981 54964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140804&oldid=140803 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+48) 10/* JAVASCRIPT */
> 1727328207 674636 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140805&oldid=140804 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+12) 10/* HTML */
> 1727328302 848217 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140806&oldid=140805 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+110) 10/* BASIC */
> 1727328497 291734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140807&oldid=140806 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-20) 10/* BASIC (MIHAI POPA) */
> 1727328577 301389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140808&oldid=140807 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+87) 10/* EMOJILANG */
> 1727328593 299887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140809&oldid=140808 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-13) 10/* BASIC (MIHAI POPA) */
< 1727328607 609248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1727328664 996376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140810&oldid=140809 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+105) 10
> 1727328733 76093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140811&oldid=140810 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+12) 10/* GAME OF LIFE */
> 1727328786 828824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140812&oldid=140798 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+307) 10/* Examples */ looping counter and f-seq
> 1727330290 57207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140813&oldid=140741 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+403) 10/* Semi-serious language list */
> 1727330701 165986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140814&oldid=140780 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10
> 1727330740 101365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140815&oldid=140800 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+70) 10Change criteria according to suggestions
> 1727330882 621611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Snakel10]] to [[Snakel (DifferentDance8)]]
> 1727331109 426904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140818 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+125) 10Created page with "Snakel (or '''Python''' in our universe) is an esolang created by [[User: Ractangle]] in 2024 (or in 1989 by Remomple Tengle)"
> 1727331120 334800 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140819&oldid=140818 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+9) 10
> 1727331220 811421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140820&oldid=140817 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+85) 10Removed redirect to [[Snakel (DifferentDance8)]]
> 1727331323 254394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140821&oldid=140820 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+43) 10
> 1727331350 598843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140822&oldid=140819 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10
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> 1727333770 671135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (DifferentDance8)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140823&oldid=140816 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+22) 10
> 1727335328 534250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140824&oldid=140801 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+190) 10
> 1727336157 854014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Uppercase=Lowercase14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140825&oldid=136518 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+284) 10
< 1727336529 957474 :dbohdan3!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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> 1727337387 160477 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140826&oldid=140799 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-771) 10/* commands */
> 1727339744 505034 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140827&oldid=128056 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+60) 10/* Computational class */
> 1727340687 632142 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140828&oldid=140822 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+57) 10
> 1727340727 593330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140829&oldid=140828 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10
> 1727340963 993427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (DifferentDance8)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140830&oldid=140823 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-18) 10
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< 1727346897 641146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: on https://mostawesomedude.github.io/bb-gauge/brainfuck.html you should probably clarify whether cells can become negative
< 1727347018 378246 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh actually it doesn't specify the range of values in a cell at all. I thought it said that it was unbounded but I misread yesterday; that was about the number of cells.
< 1727347089 19044 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, from discussion with tromp just now, it's unclear what happens with a program like <+ ...is the program illegal, or does it halt on the first step? or maybe the < becomes a no-op... there are some wild possibilities here.
< 1727347905 70927 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :wildest possibility: use opcodes , and . as well, providing access to binary input that follows the bf program following an unmatched ] separator
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> 1727349682 953968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140831 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4231) 10Created page with "''''(s y ...... ma?) is designed by PSTF.  It is designed for use SC to express [[Sakana]].  == Commands == Unlike Deadfish, this Esolang has commands for handling input, and it uses a memory tape(I call the cell "x") and 4 accumulators(a, b, c, and d).  {| class="wikita
> 1727349751 746725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140832&oldid=140740 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+25) 10
> 1727349973 828051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140833&oldid=140783 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+751) 10/* If you want, make this scarier. */ new section
> 1727350265 100309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140834&oldid=140815 5* 03None1 5* (+14) 10/* B */  Befunge-93 will count in the modified rules
> 1727350386 41137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140835&oldid=140834 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1727350672 830269 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140836&oldid=140835 5* 03None1 5* (+20) 10/* G */
> 1727350760 430027 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140837&oldid=140836 5* 03None1 5* (+26) 10/* T */
> 1727351379 382582 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140838&oldid=140832 5* 03None1 5* (+33) 10/* See also */
> 1727351452 259101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140839&oldid=140837 5* 03None1 5* (+12) 10/* P */
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> 1727351527 59262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140840&oldid=140839 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* I */
> 1727351786 699871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Main Page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140841&oldid=139535 5* 03None1 5* (+384) 10/* Someone should change the featured language. */
< 1727351796 736221 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Celebrate Bureflux! Hail Erïs!
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> 1727352294 599002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140842&oldid=140831 5* 03None1 5* (-13) 10/* See also */
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> 1727352842 771422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140843&oldid=140826 5* 03None1 5* (+46) 10/* commands */
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> 1727357300 844229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140845 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1528) 10Created page with "Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again 1 is designed by PSTF, and it is crazier version of [[Translated ZhongWen/MihaiEso]].  1. Take this "program" <pre>   >     b    __  >  + > >     rwy'n"d->a> 1kg     ..."
> 1727357331 772051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140846&oldid=139136 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+43) 10
> 1727357465 843682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140847&oldid=140845 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+45) 10
> 1727358432 608279 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140848 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2237) 10Created page with "Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again is designed by MihaiEso, and it is crazier version of [[Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again1]]. ~~~~  1. Take this "program", which BTW looks bad. <pre>  []79777yy8166666663   []7977       MaroFajro MMA KIO ..."
> 1727358453 864798 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140849&oldid=140848 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-87) 10
> 1727358546 964007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140850&oldid=140722 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+83) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727359054 931708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140851 5* 03None1 5* (+3394) 10Created page with "'''+''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], it is an extension to [[]]. ==Stack== In addition to the original accumulator in , + has a stack, popping from the stack returns 0.  Both the stack and the accumulator store unbounded signed values. ==Commands== <pre> Command Me
> 1727359096 279229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140852&oldid=133761 5* 03None1 5* (+273) 10/* I think this can add even more commands, not only , , ,  and . */
> 1727359150 499581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140853&oldid=135252 5* 03None1 5* (+38) 10/* See also */
> 1727359239 318969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140854&oldid=140838 5* 03None1 5* (+38) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1727359296 233246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140855&oldid=140724 5* 03None1 5* (+91) 10/* My Esolangs */
> 1727359493 579474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140856 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+986) 10Created page with "[[Translated ORK/None1 again6|This]] is not crazy enough, so let's be crazier with more crappy translations!  1. Take this crappy, original text: <pre> ! The meaning of Japan and Japan humanity. ! Rubber, two, rig, fox cgi Limited only ! The meaning 
> 1727359641 409597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140857&oldid=140850 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+56) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727359843 41504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140858&oldid=140718 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+66) 10
> 1727360074 150923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Pkdck.png10]]": [[+]] by [[User:None1]]
> 1727360104 766530 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140860&oldid=140851 5* 03None1 5* (+62) 10
> 1727360722 504004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Subleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140861&oldid=134240 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+97) 10Added wayback links
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> 1727361279 769195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140862&oldid=140827 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+29) 10/* Computational class */
> 1727361375 735652 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140863 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1609) 10Created page with "[[Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again|]]  1. Drag that big sh*t out <pre>  8166666663   []       Spirit      ..."
> 1727361399 321314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140864&oldid=140849 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+45) 10
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> 1727361447 776881 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140865&oldid=140857 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+43) 10
> 1727362111 785932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140866&oldid=140864 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-4) 10
> 1727362396 252399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140867&oldid=140862 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10
> 1727362408 995057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140868&oldid=140863 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+46) 10
> 1727363081 214154 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again1014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140869 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1032) 10Created page with "It's a big piece of sh1t that more shitty than [[Translated ORK/Mihai Again5]].  1. Drag out the ruins that have passed through the apocalypse <pre> ! Issue # 1 is the last issue of this year's General Intentions. ! We couldn't save ourselves. 
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> 1727363157 743163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140870&oldid=140865 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+57) 10
> 1727363392 333457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140871&oldid=140713 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4) 10warring
> 1727363533 928438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03S7rayCat 5*  10New user account
< 1727363578 739736 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e, tromp: You're right, I should specify what's going on. Not sure if I'll get to that today, but it's easy enough to do soon.
> 1727363895 130997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140872&oldid=140654 5* 03S7rayCat 5* (+210) 10
> 1727363896 733458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140873 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2045) 10Created page with "Made [[Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again1]] more rubbish  1. Drag this rubbish program <pre>   ^[yY]       _           ..."
> 1727363959 570584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again1014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140874&oldid=140869 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+39) 10
> 1727363995 227313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140875&oldid=140872 5* 03S7rayCat 5* (+6) 10
> 1727364103 542887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140876&oldid=140873 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+0) 10
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< 1727364175 648602 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1727364582 405577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140877&oldid=140871 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-23) 10H4XXOR is Not a Number
< 1727364616 158727 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :S7rayCat: Morning.
< 1727364629 763509 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Morning
> 1727364640 470517 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140878 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1068) 10Created page with "It's a big piece of rubbish that is worse than [[Translated ORK/PSTF Again10]].  1. Drag this. <pre> Place it on the pillow and pour in a column of mustard. I'm very angry if someone is here, but you're sharing too much. Place it on the pillow and p
< 1727364692 774733 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw, does anyone have an interpreter for cubed that's runable on a rpi4
< 1727364701 897485 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wanna test something
> 1727364716 229884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140879&oldid=140870 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+103) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
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> 1727366726 672319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140881&oldid=140880 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-20) 10
> 1727366935 199445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140882&oldid=135599 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* See also */
> 1727366972 570789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140883&oldid=140882 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-17) 10
> 1727367047 42617 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Asvi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140884&oldid=75797 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+20) 10
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< 1727367117 199588 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hallo!
< 1727367119 644389 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im back
> 1727367264 946320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emojifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140886&oldid=140529 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-16) 10
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> 1727368074 856933 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Main Page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140897&oldid=140841 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+246) 10/* Someone should change the featured language. */
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< 1727368738 153909 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got a pretty weird idea for an esolang
< 1727368746 240730 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty sure its imposible
< 1727368748 201067 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk
< 1727368752 535724 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the thing is
< 1727368756 727715 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it accepts any code
< 1727368770 938810 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and tries to make or recognie it has syntax and run it as a program
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< 1727370799 125869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :How many esolangs emit video? I'm pondering getting a MiSTer FPGA, and it would be cool to implement something in it. BytePusher would probably be the first, I've done a wasm vm for it, and it's graphical
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< 1727371035 900831 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: https://esolangs.org/wiki/BMOW_1 has a custom graphics card
< 1727371053 100254 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with *two* different modes: bitmap and tile/character-based
< 1727371066 498193 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, *must* emit video? Cammy can be interpreted as producing animations, and I have a CPU emulator, but I haven't done a GPU version yet, let alone FPGA stuff.
< 1727371086 709895 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :making a graphics card is impressive on its own, but making one with two modes really shows that BMOW wanted to go the distance
< 1727371152 592755 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, BMOW-1 is rad. This has made my day. What an effort.
< 1727371155 45493 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like emitting video is less likely to break my brain than emitting text. Although I'd probably just... borrow from the PDP-1 core or something
< 1727371174 501452 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and https://www.bigmessowires.com/cpu-in-a-cpld/ has some kind of display, but I'm not sure of the details
< 1727371175 972509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know little about electronics
< 1727371207 219128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, a tutorial about Verilog mentioned pull-up resistors, and I... uh. I don't get it.
< 1727371218 918775 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :pull-up and pull-down resistors are sort of... defaults?
< 1727371222 976489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :iiuc?
< 1727371322 549588 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.linusakesson.net/scene/bitbanger/index.php emits video but I don't think it counts as a programming language in any sense
< 1727371377 616947 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are some 2D https://esolangs.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton that you may count
< 1727371413 658344 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Life_MiSTer GOL is implemented for MiSTer
< 1727371471 288930 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously with any capable language that can output bits you could write a program that outputs a file that you can easily interpret as graphics, raw or with headers at your choice
> 1727371548 894866 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140899&oldid=133024 5* 03TJC games 5* (+8) 10/* All functions */
< 1727371597 148169 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, https://esolangs.org/wiki/MIX_(Knuth)#MIXPC_extensions apparently has bitmap output but with an embarrassingly small resolution of 80×40 px resolution
< 1727371646 977155 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have output an ascii art maze from an esolang program at one point, does that count?
< 1727371704 381019 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then there's https://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages#Ken_Knowlton's_languages
< 1727371768 591879 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a couple environments like tixy or shadertoy that host small pure programs in languages like ES or GLSL, and I assume that that's *not* what you're looking for, not least because they aren't intended to compile to FPGA.
< 1727371812 774298 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At the same time, I can't ignore that there's a fairly generic way to compile pure languages to digital logic: http://conal.net/papers/compiling-to-categories/compiling-to-categories.pdf
< 1727371890 843010 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also had vague plans for a language that inputs and outputs pixel graphics, but I haven't developed any of it
< 1727372553 709403 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get an answer maybe perhaps idk. like feedback(and if its possible)
< 1727373040 326926 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW: It's an incoherent question. A language is merely a set of sentences; you're confusing the algorithm of an interpreter with the language which it recognizes.
< 1727373072 378011 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :??
< 1727373073 302311 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's an instance of Do What I Mean (DWIM), a famous failed computing paradigm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM
< 1727373095 624379 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no what i eamt was:
< 1727373116 442874 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :first try to find some syntax with a predifined function and mane up the lang
< 1727373126 792433 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then intepret the rest of the code after some delimiter
< 1727373145 106586 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :As in literate programming?
< 1727373309 999736 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW: What's the goal here? Your original phrasing was very generic.
< 1727373366 571918 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my goal is to bascially make everything runnable
< 1727373409 291058 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh. Yeah, that's not workable.
< 1727373430 46327 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but no rlly
< 1727373436 297862 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like my goal is
< 1727373442 621630 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought you were thinking of something more like https://gist.github.com/trauber/4955706 or https://github.com/vijithassar/lit
< 1727373447 482646 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make a new lang every time kinda but also not
< 1727373542 358437 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you often want to shift the burden of formality to the computer.
< 1727373588 376901 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :talking about me or generally
< 1727373615 22255 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Talking about a pattern in your projects.
< 1727373634 254956 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Computers aren't magic. They're abstract symbol-manipulation robots.
< 1727373676 311834 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727373744 495987 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A pile of symbols doesn't have a meaning. We, the humans, assign meaning to the symbols.
< 1727373755 215506 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So what exactly are you hoping will happen when you give a pile of symbols to the computer?
< 1727373831 409466 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well. im trying in this way
< 1727373868 645318 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have some *function* that the first program is assumed to be
< 1727373888 932999 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no the computer *tries* to find patterns
< 1727373899 860690 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that compute that *function*
< 1727373912 49532 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the creates a lang
< 1727373913 588038 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some how
< 1727374010 769842 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*somehow
< 1727374067 765620 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unfortunately, sometimes a sentence is a member of two languages. So, let's assume that we've taught the computer our culture somehow (language modeling, whatever) and it's got an idea of what a proglang looks like.
< 1727374113 228080 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727374165 724330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`x = 7; y = 2; print(x/y)` is valid Python 2 and Python 3, printing different results. Both flavors of Python have been culturally popular. Which one would your program pick and why?
< 1727374168 173907 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :x? No such file or directory
< 1727374270 975084 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :prop python 2 since its simpler(i think) cuz then it easier to construct from the code. if we know the result or thing it computes
< 1727374311 204245 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, yeah, this is a hopeless desire and I think that you should modify it to something more tractable.
< 1727374343 245933 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like what
< 1727374353 486065 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk even know im rlly just beugn the idea
< 1727374433 278464 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*begun
< 1727374461 191299 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think iterating on this idea will help. I think that you're at a common stage for beginners and that you need to get past the hope that the computer can do any thinking for you.
< 1727374514 427155 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A program is a *specification* of what the computer ought to do. To the degree that the program is formalized, the computer's behavior is constrained. What you're asking for is to somehow instruct the computer without specification, as if it were a human laborer.
< 1727374560 518739 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And even then many people would argue that labor is required to encode abstract desires into a specification for what a human ought to do. There's no free lunch here.)
< 1727374639 72759 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i boring way to do it
< 1727374653 3153 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lets say we ave the function the first program needs to compile be idk
< 1727374657 558067 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this python code:
< 1727374674 408187 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`print("hello world")`
< 1727374675 469394 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :print("hello? No such file or directory
< 1727374685 23065 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then
< 1727374711 445835 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`python3 -cprint("hello world")
< 1727374711 553647 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just map earch char to one the of the commands ith the last one being the chars left
< 1727374712 598300 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello world
< 1727374718 811596 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so like
< 1727374806 266865 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :123456 could make it:
< 1727374806 767092 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :1 : print
< 1727374807 267108 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :2 : (
< 1727374807 766939 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :3: "
< 1727374808 266867 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :4 : hello worl
< 1727374808 767257 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :5 : d"
< 1727374809 267080 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :6 : )
< 1727374809 766721 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
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< 1727374883 454639 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Good Night!
< 1727374909 281780 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: Yeah, that's not going to be implementable. What are the semantics? Is "this" a Unicode string, for example? How is the computer supposed to figure that out?
< 1727374941 379129 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just assumption
< 1727374944 504247 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1727374954 43466 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a functon that maps each char of one string
< 1727374959 281588 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to the ones of the other
< 1727374969 544686 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the chars of the other are the commands)
< 1727375010 322169 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You're assuming a particular ALGOL-ish paradigm which isn't universal. What should happen with this relatively famous program? {⊃1 ⍵ ∨.∧ 3 4 = +/ +⌿ ¯1 0 1 ∘.⊖ ¯1 0 1 ⌽¨ ⊂⍵}
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< 1727375097 364129 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk. idk anything about APL other than that it exists
< 1727375112 274627 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: Did you recognize that syntax offhand or did you search for it?
< 1727375138 104234 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know that my questions are mean, but I'm hoping that you're starting to see why we propose that you *implement* your designs.
< 1727375149 984496 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to stupid tho
< 1727375151 368538 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :._.
< 1727375178 920611 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't believe that. But fine, let's assume that you're incapable of implementing proglangs. Why are you designing them?
< 1727375200 653405 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to keep myself ane
< 1727375206 35833 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*sane
< 1727375233 607597 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why do you think programmers design and implement proglangs? It's not a matter of sanity, although folks will often make jokes about that.
< 1727375251 548352 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well its the reason i do
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< 1727375271 607304 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :keeping busy isn't the same as keeping yourself sane
< 1727375338 377036 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you dont know me
< 1727375341 105186 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: I didn't ask you about your reasons. I'm asking you to empathize with the rest of the community of programmers; why do you think *they* do it?
< 1727375360 211507 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk. to make something intresting?
< 1727375412 398501 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nope. They do it in order to *collaborate*, to *shorten programs*, to *verify properties* and achieve *automatic safety*, to enable *abstractions*, and to make *legible* or *documented* parts of their systems.
< 1727375463 339506 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Otherwise we'd just use assembler. Real programmers don't mind, as long as they're paid by the hour and not merely by the line.
< 1727375475 458248 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727375560 189670 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: All that said, I don't want to discourage you from making conlangs. It's an important art form. There's nothing wrong with conlangs that a computer can interpret.
< 1727375574 710464 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727375575 407431 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But this idea of yours isn't even a conlang.
< 1727375598 255147 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its just a stupid idea.
< 1727375603 329697 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1727375612 726210 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well now ik
< 1727375637 198871 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Try removing "stupid" from your vocabulary; intelligence is probably not a real thing. Also "just" means "I believe". So you're saying "I believe it's an idea." I believe it's an idea too!
< 1727375679 5196 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
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< 1727375719 221162 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You think I'm being silly. I think I'm accurately summarizing the works of 20th-century philosopher Robert Pirsig. We aren't the same.
< 1727375773 858839 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BTW Pirsig wrote FORTRAN manuals as one of his dayjobs. He understood stuff like the software-hardware distinction and the difference between languages, programs, and computers.
< 1727375793 534806 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no i dont think you are
< 1727375801 172912 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also damn
< 1727375980 138234 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got anothr idea
< 1727376053 386393 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :underload but its only : , ^ , * and the P Q R L stuff
< 1727376177 808401 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and {} and '
< 1727376186 859367 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, go for it.
< 1727376210 756989 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should i upload it?
< 1727376273 945846 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fuck if I know.
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< 1727376381 786907 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727376386 423010 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hole shit'
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< 1727376838 290263 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: Real hardware is dirty. IIUC pull-up transistors can pull a line (typically connected to ground with a resistor to make it default to low) up to Vcc. You can have several such transistors on a single line. You even have tri-state outputs that can be either disconnected, pull down, or pull up. There are weak and strong versions of these too... strong versions can override weak versions. I...
< 1727376844 300226 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...also think that this is mostly for low-speed buses. Internally you're usually using CMOS (which in a way have both pull-up and pull-down transistors for every signal, and no resistors). And on high-speed buses you also want to pull signals up and down actively, so again you won't have many resistors driving signals.
< 1727376921 324810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need a tutorial on electronics, I think
< 1727376932 910032 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :And no kids songs that incorrectly claim "You can't violate Ohm's law"
< 1727376991 736853 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not a hardware guy. I did enjoy the topic though... used to borrow Hennessy-Patterson for a while, though the only thing that stuck was the idea of carry prediction to reduce the critical path length in multi-bit adders.
< 1727377026 669437 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: If you violate Ohm's law you get blue smoke.
< 1727377094 588949 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Ohm's law breaks down catastrophically when a resistor overheats. That includes low-resistance resistors like wires or metal contacts, which are the things that tend to burn up in a short circuit.)
< 1727377179 572275 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know much about electronics. I work in a job where a lot of my co-workers do electronics, but I do the software side, so at most I have to know not to touch wires that may be live.
< 1727377387 300981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"up to Vcc" - minus a threshold voltage whose name I'd have to look up that is required to pass through the transistor itself.
< 1727377595 597992 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The other thing I remember was that hardware people play tricks with the geometry of the gates of FETs to make logical ands and ors and even mixes thereof with a single source and drain.
< 1727377646 458793 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which was fun too. It won't come up in Verilog, it's way lower level than that.
< 1727377726 376624 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have, sadly, never actually touched Verilog.
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< 1727388101 109966 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo_: so I have a degree in electronics, if that's helpful for anything?
< 1727388164 952494 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, I would argue that theoretically Ohm's law is a definition and thus can't be violated by definition – but some of the numbers that you plug into it might have unexpected values, if you're doing something weird
< 1727388443 396440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. if you buy a 470 ohm resistor from a shop, it won't be guaranteed to have a resistance of 470 ohms in all possible circumstances – just the circumstances in which that sort of resistor is normally used
< 1727388450 917965 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: not really, because I know they also give those degrees to incompetent people 
< 1727388491 113258 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, this was a combined bachelor's+master's degree, I think if you're incompetent you only get the bachelor's portion
< 1727388521 146927 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well sure, those resistors usually have a voltage limit because they can just melt if you send lots of currents through it
< 1727388542 871063 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after two years the pass mark went up from 40% to 50%, including retroactively (if I'd had too many scores between 40% and 50% I would have had to change to bachelor's only at that point)
< 1727388580 579630 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, it was clear that some of the students in the group project were better than others
< 1727388591 881875 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: perhaps that is so now, but I saw this back before the Bologna system was introduced here so the degrees were 5 year program ones, and I think you're old enough for that
< 1727388625 674456 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably varies a lot from country to country and decade to decade
< 1727388647 723728 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and between universities and between the programs in those universities, yes
< 1727388687 921990 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was starting to move more into CS by the end of my degree, though
< 1727388714 299366 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean some of the universities keep renaming themeslves every five years just to try to confuse employers that the degrees that they give out are real
< 1727388728 950842 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like to joke that my Master's thesis was about writing a compiler for a particular computational model, and my PhD thesis was about figuring out why it worked
< 1727388748 332747 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1727388789 986560 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean that was still normal in my father's time: back then there was no separate CS education, so everyone who studied software programming got a degree saying electric engineering
< 1727388803 624840 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so my father has an electric engineering degree
< 1727388822 703081 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for my PhD I went to look up lots of old books on computer science, but they were filed under "philosophy" because computers hadn't been invented at the time
< 1727388842 304091 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and so the weird sorts of logic they were defining weren't obviously useful for anything
< 1727388842 454033 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice
< 1727388873 672346 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in particular I was working with affine logic a lot, which doesn't really make much sense if you try to make logical sense of the real world with it
< 1727388894 469836 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was a bit before Rust was created, so I feel like I got a head start in terms of understanding it
< 1727388915 811550 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, not sure about the actual creation date, but before it became widely known, at least
< 1727388947 64281 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.giantitp.com//comics/oots/oots1099.png “I'm an astronomer, not an adventurer. (There aren't a lot of dwarven organizations that offer funding for looking at the sky.)”
< 1727389030 604516 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: you asked for the webserver to break outside of work time, right?
< 1727389214 120772 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: anyway, my degree is explicitly a degree in electronics even though the university also offered computer science and software engineering degrees
< 1727389262 844771 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was partly because I wasn't sure what I wanted to be doing yet, and it is much cheaper to study CS on your own than it is to study electronics on your own – doing the degree meant that I could borrow expensive equipment from the university if I needed it
< 1727389297 668368 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, but they still count as close enough that people often work in related areas with those degrees
< 1727389323 48542 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and I was much more careful with it than most – I don't think I've destroyed anything more expensive than a cheap mass-produced capacitor or diode)
< 1727389353 663809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in the course of doing electronics on it, at least)
< 1727389365 110171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I defintely have set at least one diode on fire, it is easy to do by mistake
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