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< 1725161341 769733 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which file format can be used if I want a key/value database which is mostly reading and not writing, and the key and value are both sequences of bytes, and that if you find a specific record then you can easily find all records that have the same key as a prefix (and that you can also do so even if there is no such record for the requested key)?
< 1725161984 289623 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: the last property you talk about sounds like a B+ tree; I know there are database formats based on those
< 1725162037 36814 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if write performance is completely unimportant you could use a list of key/value pairs sorted by the key, and use binary search to find entries
< 1725162126 619836 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you're looking for more of a standard file format, SQLite should work, storing one table with an index on the key
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> 1725162405 205347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PlusOrOutput14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137546&oldid=137544 5* 03None1 5* (+4570) 10/* Interpreters for both languages in JavaScript */
> 1725162900 706964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Translated Shakespeare14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137547 5* 03None1 5* (+264) 10Created page with "You can translate using the wrong language to get wierd translations. --~~~~"
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> 1725163284 378494 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine with an iterating quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137549 5* 03None1 5* (+594) 10Created page with "'''NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine with an iterating quine''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]].  It is [[NameErro
> 1725163436 450083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137550&oldid=137260 5* 03None1 5* (+443) 10/* Error simulators */
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> 1725163751 920794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C@++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137554&oldid=133820 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+861) 10Made the language much more powerful/expressive with new commands
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< 1725165951 35483 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Write performance is not completely unimportant, but read performance is more important. I would also expect that when writes occur, several records will be written at once rather than one at a time (although one at a time is also possible, but less likely).
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< 1725166714 787729 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: if write preformance is *completely* unimportant then you should sort the whole table after each write and do some kind of binary search among sorted records for reading. but a writable B-tree isn't really much worse than that.
< 1725166768 632634 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think sqlite3 might work decently for what you want
< 1725166860 742184 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had considered the SQLite4 format, which is a real key/value database unlike SQLite3.
< 1725166877 70194 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well... it's not perfect, if you can have multiples of the key then it might not be the best format, or you need some kind of trick for it where you append a unique identifier column and make the two columns together the primary key, so that you can have just one table WITHOUT ROWID table, rather than a table and a separate index
< 1725166904 772837 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, is that possible?
< 1725166922 727169 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know
< 1725166952 52707 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if not then you have to put them in one single column where you artificially append something to your key to make it unique
< 1725167038 241290 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mind you, the separate index mostly just makes the write performance worse if you make that index contain all columns
< 1725167048 838392 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so even a normal table can work
< 1725167125 993280 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I guess just use a normal table with an index covering both the key and value columns, and don't make the key primary or unique since you want to allow it to repeat
< 1725167277 514015 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you want to find all records with a prefix then write a comparison like WHERE key BETWEEN ?1 AND ?2 but you bind ?2 to the same as ?1 incremented by 1 when interpreted as a big-endian number
< 1725167304 858829 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's as if WHERE key BETWEEN 'one' AND 'onf'
< 1725167316 80368 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :only you probably use blobs instead of strings
< 1725167443 169150 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that would do, although SQL is more than is needed, I think, especially if it is merely a key/value database. I do understand what you mean and had thought of that too but it seems much more complicated than it should be.
< 1725167473 510905 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it certainly is, but you don't need to use all the features
< 1725167527 82057 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also make sure to read https://sqlite.org/howtocompile.html 
< 1725167570 895434 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a lot of optional features that you usually needn't compile into sqlite3 if you aren't like making debian with a thousand packages depending on sqlite3, and they now have good documentation describing these compile-time settings
< 1725167714 41644 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(you've probably read it already, but the documentation is kind of new so I want to mention it)
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> 1725170457 805740 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Foo : The term 'foo' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137569&oldid=131324 5* 03None1 5* (+33) 10/* See also */
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> 1725170652 550381 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137572&oldid=131489 5* 03None1 5* (-14) 10/* Examples */  no spaces
> 1725171188 438668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wow owo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137573 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+3332) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''wow owo''' is a [[Cellular automaton]] created by [[User:Yayimhere]] while bored == cell types and interactions == cell types: * # copies itself in every direction(no diags). if 3 come in a  horizontal cluster walls form around them( 1725171989 561307 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137574&oldid=137456 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+14) 10
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      ..."
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> 1725177325 560179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137605 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+813) 10Created page with "'''0x80070050''' or '''sorry this file exists'''(which is what this error code is for...for the file existing) is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] inspired by [[An Odd Rewriting System]]. it really just annoys you == memory == there are 3 memory things: *  1725177371 423368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137606&oldid=137605 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+23) 10
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> 1725183721 730010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137623&oldid=137622 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-28) 10
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> 1725184715 291955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Rt10]] to [[LX]] over redirect
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> 1725184769 216177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137630&oldid=137628 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-35) 10/* Hello, world! */
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> 1725186596 910061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137631&oldid=137630 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+195) 10
> 1725188043 670727 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:An Odd Rewriting System14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137632&oldid=137612 5* 03Ais523 5* (+448) 10/* what was the limitation */ it's hard to explain simply, which is why I made an esolang to demonstrate it
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> 1725194617 526346 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137634&oldid=137590 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+179) 10/* I might ! need an English page for . */
> 1725194672 539274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Page crapper from explain xkcd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137635&oldid=137548 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+178) 10
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> 1725195921 811010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07/English version14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137636 5* 03None1 5* (+3029) 10Translate as the author requested
> 1725195960 46463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137637&oldid=137634 5* 03None1 5* (+50) 10/* I might ! need an English page for . */
> 1725195968 667119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137638&oldid=137637 5* 03None1 5* (+195) 10/* I might ! need an English page for . */
> 1725195996 643008 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137639&oldid=135178 5* 03None1 5* (+74) 10
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< 1725202994 888265 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do chemists use methanol for household cleaning, like cleaning the outsides of their mobile phones and rubik's cubes, or do they use it only for cleaning in their laboratory?
> 1725203120 96286 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03OllyBritton 5*  10New user account
> 1725203268 299807 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137640&oldid=137339 5* 03OllyBritton 5* (+216) 10
> 1725204317 141771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137641&oldid=137531 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+258) 10
> 1725204355 886077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137642&oldid=137641 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-5498) 10Replaced content with "hello  this is a wip  archives at [[/Archives|here]]"
> 1725204364 327770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137643&oldid=137642 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10
> 1725204384 571573 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/archives/july 31 to september 114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137644 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+5550) 10Created page with "{{User:Tommyaweosme/tabs}}  You can see block details at [https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tommyaweosme/blockedlist&action=raw User:Tommyaweosme/blockedlist].  meow  if youve got any questions, ask em here. 
> 1725204414 115779 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/archives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137645&oldid=134352 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-161) 10
> 1725204443 624585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/archives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137646&oldid=137645 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10
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> 1725204641 928735 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137648 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+14) 10Created page with "a{color:pink;}"
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> 1725204853 608128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137649&oldid=137648 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+195) 10
< 1725204930 874677 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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> 1725205216 293515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137651&oldid=137638 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+491) 10/* i want everything to be pink */ new section
> 1725205291 917643 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137652&oldid=137615 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+240) 10
> 1725205374 240322 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137653&oldid=137650 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-264) 10testing
> 1725205376 108538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137654&oldid=137651 5* 03Ais523 5* (+328) 10/* i want everything to be pink */ !important
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> 1725205580 796762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137657&oldid=137654 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+190) 10
> 1725205683 377924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/vector.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137658 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+62) 10Created page with "* {background-color:pink !important; color:purple !important;}"
< 1725205739 955848 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think of this esolang? and also. what could the possible computational class be?:
< 1725205740 443524 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/0x80070050
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> 1725205760 531492 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[02User talk:Unname4798/vector.css10]] from "wikitext" to "CSS"
> 1725205783 189746 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02User talk:Unname4798/vector.css10]] to [[User:Unname4798/vector.css]]
> 1725205844 119264 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02User:Unname4798/vector.css10]] to [[User talk:Unname4798/vector.css]] over redirect
> 1725205844 133606 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete_redir10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10Unname4798 deleted redirect [[02User talk:Unname4798/vector.css10]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[User:Unname4798/vector.css]]"
> 1725205887 17046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Undelta14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137664&oldid=137585 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+214) 10
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< 1725205941 40667 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: it's TC, it can implement Thue almost directly (the evaluation order is a little different but that doesn't matter); you just need to design the strings so that the replacements can never match in reverse
< 1725206048 582857 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725206052 104234 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1725206065 982115 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also it isn't IO-complete because it can't output anything that's smaller than the entire internal state, but IO isn't needed for TCness
< 1725206073 105206 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725206084 463373 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wai
< 1725206087 686568 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*wait
< 1725206094 918022 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it couldnt anyway
< 1725206099 390059 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since it has no in
< 1725206113 323072 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah right, isn't output-complete then
< 1725206119 782627 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725206139 397237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think of the esolang?
> 1725206149 565424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137666&oldid=137375 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+55) 10
< 1725206247 267844 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's basically a string-rewriting esolang with awkward syntax – I generally prefer less awkward syntax, but there are merits to doing it both ways round
< 1725206263 263585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725206269 18890 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have been thinking more about the esolang I created yesterday, and realised that it has both an easy-to-write syntax and a very minimal, tarpitty syntax
< 1725206273 722818 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think I might just make a page for both of htem
< 1725206286 360183 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what esolang?
< 1725206299 724692 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :word worm?
< 1725206321 312279 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, it's an arithmetic-based esolang
< 1725206330 868952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725206333 39493 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :link?
< 1725206333 641548 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :based on Blindfolded Arithmetic but I changed one of the rules and it makes TCness much harder to prove
< 1725206338 461401 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't written the page for it yet
< 1725206342 93274 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh k
< 1725206379 49387 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think many people think the wiki defines esolangs, but it actually mostly just documents them – esolangs can have an existence outside the wiki, and, e.g., there are plenty of golfing and puzzle languages that aren't written up there yet
< 1725206402 296048 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :occasionally I write someone else's language up to get a more comprehensive coverage of esolangs in the wiki, but not very often, and there are plenty of esolangs I don't know about
< 1725206418 271818 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i do sometimes
< 1725206424 357465 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of my esolangs only exists
< 1725206431 522278 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz the website it does
< 1725206437 749651 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'll write an article now, though
< 1725206445 981967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
> 1725206632 850607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Yayimhere 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Logo of sorry this file exists.jpg10]]"
> 1725206647 19673 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137668&oldid=137652 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+68) 10
< 1725206736 403493 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :without the redifintion rule of sorry this file exists would it be tc?
< 1725206750 433799 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz idk if i like it lol:)
< 1725206870 577121 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow, that's tricky (assuming you mean that ⟪x∧y⟫ is only legal once per program) – my guess is no but I'm not sure
< 1725206882 730947 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1725206896 134809 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mean that ⟪x∧y⟫ is legal multiple times
< 1725206897 645970 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BUT
< 1725206899 241587 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now
< 1725206909 417927 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rules are always updated with a and b
< 1725206921 481283 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk which one i should choose
< 1725206954 70444 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think ill choose your idea tho
< 1725206958 758960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :credit??
< 1725206972 817461 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's only a small idea, you can credit me if you want to but don't have to
< 1725206979 503337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725206987 918933 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like to give credit tho
< 1725206992 196729 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you sort-of created it yourself by mistake, by saying something I interpreted as that
< 1725207006 587772 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725207019 647766 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder if any esolangs has happend kinda like that?
> 1725207050 556934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137669&oldid=137668 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-126) 10
> 1725207061 193265 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137670&oldid=137669 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10
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< 1725207110 842873 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no prob with leave
> 1725207315 317538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry this file exists14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137671 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+24) 10Redirected page to [[0x80070050]]
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> 1725207748 441567 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137672&oldid=136083 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+46) 10/* 0815 */
> 1725208008 667942 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Imprecision14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137673 5* 03Ais523 5* (+4428) 10new language!
< 1725208036 48701 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: ^ there's my new language
> 1725208064 592128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137674&oldid=137594 5* 03Ais523 5* (+18) 10/* I */ + [[Imprecision]]
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> 1725208093 583380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137675&oldid=135719 5* 03Ais523 5* (+17) 10+ [[Imprecision]]
< 1725208123 502182 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :“I think many people think the wiki defines esolangs, but it actually mostly just documents them” => true, I most often document esolangs that already exist on the wiki
< 1725208129 542299 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/on/onto/
< 1725208153 640953 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725208171 426043 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool ais523
< 1725208200 461339 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: depending on what you mean, maybe: I created https://esolangs.org/wiki/Amycus by mistake 
< 1725208233 728926 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725208242 960286 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was pre''y much what i meant
< 1725208259 868535 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that case I got a more esoteric and less useful language
< 1725208283 900229 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's still interesting enough that I kept it
< 1725208295 473557 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725208504 887613 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Imprecision#Computational_class => hmm, that's an interesting argument, I'll have to think of whether that actually works with just the operations that you have
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< 1725208855 598060 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my current tentative plan is "implement a 2-counter Minsky machine that only simulates multiplications and divisions by 2 and 3 (to get predictable behaviour of the counters), quantize the state variables sharply enough that the error term drops rapidly enough to converge if they aren't being perturbed much by reading the counters, ensure error from the counters themselves is no greater than 1 over the square of their value so that converge stoo"
< 1725208865 926929 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't know whether or not that actually works
< 1725208895 680720 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was very confusing. maybe im read to fast
< 1725208896 945246 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you would need to "reset" the error in the counters as they got near 0, but it's possible to create a quantizer that only works near 0 but doesn't disturb the value of large values very much
< 1725208897 561587 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*i
< 1725208929 823028 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also where does the name come from?
< 1725208935 637145 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: so you'd store information like your state and stack as integers, kept in the round to nearest integers parts of your variables. then in each round, you'd compute a number C that is easily an upper bound on the magnitudes of all numbers involved. then you'd write something like y = 1/(x*x*C+1), and now if x is zero then y=1, but if x is nonzero then y is close enough to zero that you can use it 
< 1725208941 656597 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in control flow by multiplying y with some almost integer and adding it to another almost integer. and you make sure that C is so large that even if you do such conditionals a few times per round (you know how long your program is) the round to nearest values are always the correct exact values that you want to simulate.
< 1725208986 593781 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: frrom my thoughts about computational class – it's very unusual to have a language that looks inherently capable of storing exact numbers, but chooses to use approximations instead
< 1725208990 686806 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and this could simulate a computation on integers that is similar to something you do in Blindfolded arithmetic
< 1725209022 337402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 lol
< 1725209023 617509 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right, that's the general principle
< 1725209055 462216 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's the slight problem that this only lets you equal-compare integers, not less-than compare them, but fortunately our constructions to compile to blindfolded arithmetic are such that we can get away with just equal comparisons
< 1725209077 98075 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Minsky machines only use equal-compares anyway
< 1725209078 866698 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, we will also have to be able to compute integer remainders for the blindfolded arithmetic thing
< 1725209091 693465 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :integer reminders with some fixed divisors at least
< 1725209104 402227 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think you can avoid that if you do a somewhat more complicated construction
< 1725209106 537608 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a question
< 1725209110 792990 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would a minsk
< 1725209112 127168 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wasn't going to go via BA, just implement Minsky machines directly
< 1725209113 829563 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :machine
< 1725209116 939324 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one that reads the top digit instead of the bottom digit
< 1725209123 882377 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that jumps when the register is NON zero
< 1725209130 216271 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :be turing complete
< 1725209131 968235 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yeah, that would be enough for TC but I don't like it if we can avoid it
< 1725209142 563184 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :still decrementing
< 1725209151 979122 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: it's still Turing-complete, you just have to reorganise the program
< 1725209160 667308 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
< 1725209166 230963 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the original version of Minsky machines was "jumps somewhere if zero, jumps somewhere else if nonzero"
< 1725209182 245034 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt know that!
< 1725209199 227381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if only one of the cases jumps, you can make yourself an unconditional jump afterwards (either using an unconditional jump instruction, or a conditional jump where you already know the input) in order to make the other case jump too
< 1725209215 172628 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, this needs more taught. Imprecision turned out to be a more interesting language than I assumed yesterday when you mentioned it
< 1725209223 463104 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also isnt this program:
< 1725209223 963328 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :10 ...
< 1725209224 462933 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :20 comefrom 10
< 1725209224 963453 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the same as:
< 1725209225 463370 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :10 goto 20
< 1725209225 962618 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :20 ...
< 1725209254 677431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sort of – it gets complicated when you have multiple gotos or comefroms aiming at the same line
< 1725209271 905154 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or if the argument to goto/comefrom is a variable or expression rather than a constant
< 1725209278 666870 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but in the simple case it's equivalent
< 1725209278 679370 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725209284 907732 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725209295 103535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then why is comefrom worse than goto????
< 1725209328 824632 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because to most programmers, not knowing where the code could be jumped to is less confusing than not knowing where the code could be jumped from
< 1725209335 583455 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because it goes against the flow of the program which we usually follow when reading code
< 1725209351 321279 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725209355 527201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :goto is also confusing if the goto destinations aren't labelled (e.g. if every line is numbered, like in BASIC)
< 1725209368 391551 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725209372 786498 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1725209373 182571 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, in practice, most programmers tend to label both ends of the jump and so it doesn't matter
< 1725209375 302792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :backwards sentence a writing like is it
< 1725209384 700201 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wouldnt it be funny if j in malbogle was a comefrom
< 1725209409 80259 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so malbolge uses computed jumps, and the program memory is mixed in with the data memory
< 1725209423 639034 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1725209444 876667 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :meaning that if the data you were storing randomly happened to be a comefrom instruction you would end up having to comefrom multiple places as soon as the computation produced the correct value
< 1725209458 556712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725209459 19998 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*comefrom the current location to multiple places
< 1725209465 329166 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms QUIT :Quit: I give the F*%k up! Have a nice day!
< 1725209467 2215 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be very annoying
< 1725209483 733995 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will add that to my malbolge derevative
< 1725209490 108137 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the sad thing is that I'm not even sure that this isn't TC (if you use one of the Malbolge generalisations to infinite memory)
< 1725209498 119386 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725209539 189842 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :afaiu in some APL-likes, including very early versions of J, the main control flow mechanism to jump between entire statements was a goto (represented by a right arrow) that takes a line number, and jumps there if it's a line number or continues to the next line if it's... an empty array? or zero? there were no structured if/while statements yet. so now I'm imagining the same but with computed come 
< 1725209545 193124 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :froms that are conditional in the same way, they don't come from anywhere if the label is empty or invalid or zero
< 1725209561 227103 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: doesn't INTERCAL work like that?
< 1725209564 286888 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :note that in APL this used actual line counts, not labels, so you'd have to edit the numbers if you renumbered lines
< 1725209574 669919 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :0 isn't a valid line number there, and making COME FROM expressions evaluate to 0 when you don't want to jump is convenient
< 1725209591 172324 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725209605 200901 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I thought that "actual line count" was an esolang invention the first time I saw it, and was very impressed at the idea (I have subsequently discovered that I was wrong in ths)
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< 1725209622 277019 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this may be a side effect of BASIC being my first programming language – I think I was about 6 at the time
< 1725209636 25182 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, INTERCAL works like that, but wWwwW just reminded me that other languages can have come from as well. which I had considered earlier for languages like C, python, ruby (only non-computed in C) but not yet for APL
< 1725209642 681582 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I assumed that written line numbers and RENUMBER were just normal in languages that used line numbers
< 1725209652 430274 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1725209664 688413 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: your Python control flow nonsense reminds me of C setjmp, it's pretty similar
< 1725209670 317020 :user3456_!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456
< 1725209684 565388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm what happened to aspect-oriented programming :)
< 1725209696 720057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf is that
< 1725209697 512585 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that has some "come from" flavor to it)
< 1725209721 102390 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I think they were normal in APL too, but the line numbers were used in the *editor* that you can use on a printer tty without a CRT, so the line number of a line are stable even if you insert or delete lines until you renumber by saving then reloading the currently edited list of lines
> 1725209721 736057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Huit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137676&oldid=136641 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+105) 10
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< 1725209789 814057 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I swear I said that before reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect-oriented_programming#Criticism
< 1725209801 856545 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: setjmp differs in that you have to actually run a statement to get a label value there, you can't jump to somewhere that the control flow hasn't visited yet. you can get around this by writing your function as a big switch statement using a state variable, but that's annoying. here I can just put labels anywhere and you can jump to them as soon as you have the stack frame.
< 1725209810 322406 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I was just about to link you to that
< 1725209831 585214 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: C-INTERCAL uses the "big switch" approach to compile COME FROM
< 1725209850 516982 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least in some of the complex cases; I can't remember whether it optimizes the simple case into a goto
< 1725209865 444891 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: note that https://esolangs.org/wiki/W_(Viktor_T._Toth) combines these: it uses the setjmp-like thing where you save the instruction pointer at runtime for backwards jumps, and structured if statements for forwards jumps. (except it also has function calls and even computed function calls)
< 1725209873 907390 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I see "entering a scope" as comparable to "running a command"
< 1725209878 538381 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and W does allow you to goto a computed value
> 1725209880 593040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Huit interpreter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137677 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+2978) 10Created the article
< 1725209935 196852 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did like the Threaded INTERCAL take on coming from the same location multiple times.
< 1725209948 746671 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is the obvious solution, I think
< 1725209960 667761 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I didn't invent Threaded INTERCAL, but was the second person to write an interpreter for it)
< 1725209966 565391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, compiler, not interpreter
< 1725209971 853050 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, yes, but sometimes the obvious thing is also nice. :)
< 1725209976 523899 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although the compilation is somewhat close to the "bundle an interpreter" method of compiling
< 1725210050 242153 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Plus there's the fact that INTERCAL is one of the earliest esolangs. So even obvious things had a good chance of being novel.
< 1725210076 294158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725210084 143264 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :isnt it THE first one?
< 1725210085 567468 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't remember when COME FROM was added to INTERCAL
< 1725210097 974633 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1725210098 5178 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both INTERCAL and COME FROM are old, but the idea of combining them is more recent
< 1725210104 534208 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was in the C dialect
< 1725210111 368989 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk
< 1725210117 357733 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages
< 1725210120 203954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like C-INTERCAL
< 1725210146 628441 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was C-INTERCAL I think, but not sure what date
< 1725210157 696057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 they werent made to be esolangs
< 1725210163 653345 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :intercal was
< 1725210179 460941 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the article I linked mentions that it's hard to define whether a language is an esolang, if it was invented before there was a concept of what a normal programming language looks like
< 1725210217 605429 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BF was almost invented in 1964, though (P′′ is a slightly minimized version of it)
< 1725210221 870902 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Game of Life is a proper esolang.
< 1725210226 844475 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725210274 720027 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh I didn't realize how close the inceptions of GoL and INTERCAL are. But GoL wins.
< 1725210320 767 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure when they proved it TC though?
< 1725210332 932542 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :intercal is TC
< 1725210339 402416 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it took a while I think
< 1725210339 899694 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean GoL
< 1725210349 881788 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725210351 815642 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then idk
< 1725210356 780286 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk what GoL is
< 1725210359 674686 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, INTERCAL is obviously TC to someone who understands the subject, and IIRC one of the authors said as much
< 1725210362 241445 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and i cant find it online
< 1725210365 985028 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Conway's Game of Life
< 1725210373 217314 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that it naturally ended up TC and they didn't need to do anything to make it TC
< 1725210374 394918 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725210383 472624 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :GoL is TC
< 1725210415 248014 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have put some thought into game-of-life golf – finding a set of primitives that let you write powerful programs in relatively small area
< 1725210426 239407 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :omg
< 1725210430 581082 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :GoL golfing
< 1725210440 39415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :INTERCAL TC... oh right it has stacks.
< 1725210447 490745 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had an idea of using beams of spaceships and gliders that made gaps in each other, that can be quite compact and might be workable into something TC
< 1725210448 379757 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The arrays only provide finite memory)
< 1725210460 285030 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it's actually TC even without variables at all, but I did that one intentionally
< 1725210469 793170 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :GoL assembly lang??? perhaps?????
< 1725210476 49632 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was the first time I almost discovered The Waterfall Model, oddly enough
< 1725210512 538140 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of the best esolang ideas come up time and time again in lots of different contexts, but if you've never seen the pattern before it can be hard to notice
< 1725210525 173402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1725210526 948996 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1725210530 944014 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interestijg
< 1725210549 81026 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1725210565 582182 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does the exist any computational models, that are well...
< 1725210606 841837 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :usefull???
< 1725210625 760218 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :computational models are useful if you're studying computation
< 1725210637 704924 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like usefull
< 1725210642 186882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to create programs
< 1725210643 995276 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like idk
< 1725210659 307264 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and any nontrivial/optimising compiler will need some computational model for representing the programs it's compiling
< 1725210667 214226 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although normally it's more complicated than the ones you'll find on the wiki
< 1725210682 164955 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725210683 220169 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725210689 337776 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of them aren't intended for writing in directly, but rather for compiling into
< 1725210691 39147 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random-access_machine is probably more boring than you want
< 1725210705 287271 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh right, that model
< 1725210708 598754 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree that it's both useful and boring
< 1725210723 851472 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725210726 240338 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is
< 1725210727 442228 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
> 1725210790 123000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137678&oldid=137670 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10Category
> 1725210792 997865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Unimplemented14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137679&oldid=34020 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+36) 10
< 1725210802 880117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it turns out that people don't enjoy implementing random access memory on Turing machines)
< 1725210872 320526 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, should I tell PSDW to stop adding "Category:Languages" without adding the other categories at the same time?
< 1725210884 717645 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :na
< 1725210889 721935 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don think so
< 1725210891 22128 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it just makes it harder to find uncategorized pages because they don't show up on the list of uncategorized pages any more
< 1725210895 146211 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in my opinion
< 1725210896 734437 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725210903 281652 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually
< 1725210921 233566 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe uncategorized could include ones with only lang?
< 1725210949 13815 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be a good idea, but unfortunately the definition of "uncategorized" isn't very easy to change
< 1725210957 277731 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
> 1725211000 953216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sdac214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137680&oldid=137604 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+88) 10Lowercase, categories
> 1725211031 763379 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137681&oldid=137678 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+155) 10
< 1725211154 66613 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1725211170 123296 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSxW2jHS87g recently, in which Marc tells how the US helped the rocket engineer Von Braun move to the US around 1945, but the President didn't trust him for a while, so he wasn't allowed to participate in actual spaceflight research until the 1960s. So that and Böhm's prediscovery of brainfuck reminded me of a joke that I read somewhere and I'll retell in 
< 1725211176 123768 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a modified form here.
> 1725211180 460383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LX14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137682&oldid=137631 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+62) 10Categories
< 1725211337 974096 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The joke plays in the 1950s, when the US tries to make rockets for spaceflight, but the rockets keep failing and the whole things costs a lot of money. The scientists recommend hiring Von Braun, but the President does not approve that. So instead they hire a spirit medium to summon the spirit of Ciolkovski. Ciolkovski takes one look at the rocket designs presented to him, then says "why do you need a 
< 1725211344 48900 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hundred scientists working on this, when I have already published a good design for the entire space rocket in my 1929 article?" A few years later, they summon the spiriti of Ciolkovski again. "Professor Ciolkovski, we built the rocket following your instructions in the 1929 article, but it exploded at launch." "Ah yes, that is the explosion problem that I solve in my 1931 article."
< 1725211371 69606 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I usually think of Gauss like this but for mathematics problems.
> 1725211397 531722 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137683&oldid=137666 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+159) 10
> 1725211399 877311 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Undelta14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137684&oldid=137664 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+67) 10Categories
> 1725211520 519958 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137685&oldid=137681 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-19) 10
> 1725211521 363241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wow owo14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137686&oldid=137573 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+94) 10Categories
< 1725211580 398136 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Marc explains in the video that the rocket exploded because of a short between two diodes, since back then they didn't have the material technology for all the cheap plastic insulators that we use today. So after that, everything that the NASA built that went into the rocket was either properly capped with an insulator, or the whole circuit board and components on it were embedded in epoxy so that 
< 1725211586 392494 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :components can't move. I don't know if that's the same explosion problem that Ciolkovski had solved in the joke though.
> 1725211616 549887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wow owo14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137687&oldid=137686 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10/* examples */
< 1725211641 124174 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't take "epoxy" in the strict sense above, I don't know what insulating filler material they used\
> 1725211794 855441 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kcidea14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137688&oldid=137535 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+87) 10Stub, categories
< 1725211833 183965 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1725211843 310212 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PDW is rlly active rn
< 1725211929 178540 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :only Ciolkovski is better because he actually wrote the articles, while Gauss just solved the problems and wrote down very little
< 1725211945 547427 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725211960 810788 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I discovered recently that Gauss invented the Fast Fourier Transform algorithm, but nobody noticed until after it had already been rediscovered by modern mathematicians
< 1725211978 489951 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaaaa
< 1725211985 260671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant get dis stupid idea of my head
< 1725211994 891589 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a esolang idea
< 1725212007 962408 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1725212019 602894 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a consistency checking esolang
> 1725212049 684169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blast protection14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137689&oldid=136978 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+59) 10Categories
> 1725212061 253502 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Imprecision14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137690&oldid=137673 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Specification */ move a sentence to a more sensible place
> 1725212137 918974 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137691&oldid=137440 5* 03Ais523 5* (+35) 10see also
> 1725212157 687783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOP (esolang)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137692&oldid=115850 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+62) 10/* More elaborate Python interpreter, but unfortunately it is incompatible with other languages */
> 1725212161 127125 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blindfolded Arithmetic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137693&oldid=134825 5* 03Ais523 5* (+18) 10/* See also */ +[[Imprecision]]
< 1725212279 167456 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :everbody gettin active
< 1725212290 562157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but is my esolang idea a good one
< 1725212303 278823 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not entirely sure what you mean by consistency checking
< 1725212318 290225 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1725212332 30289 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like you know how some systems are inconsistent?
< 1725212346 66932 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :could you makea. esolang with some operations and data types n' stuff
< 1725212354 613880 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make it easy to check?
< 1725212376 355136 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it will depend on the exact meaning of "inconsistent" that you're using
> 1725212381 395225 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137694&oldid=137685 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+55) 10
< 1725212383 774538 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is hard to objectively define
< 1725212401 200745 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like. isnt it without paradoxes?
< 1725212405 424979 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant remember
< 1725212446 853956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just the way in dis yt vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo
< 1725212452 642984 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure you can take the concept from formal logic
< 1725212464 387591 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, oh dear
< 1725212465 921538 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but not like
< 1725212466 541913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but how do you make a language around this that is interesting?
< 1725212477 823377 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :booleans
< 1725212492 765944 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the problem here is that for a language X to be able to prove a language Y consistent, X must be *more* powerful than Y, not just equally powerful
< 1725212496 241477 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i want something where you apply operqators to a language(idk how you would store that)
< 1725212508 428607 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless X is inconsistent, in which case it can typically prove a lot of false statements so the proofs aren't interesting
< 1725212513 904385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "fundamental flaw" framing still upsets me beyond reason
< 1725212531 94984 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I've never watched the video because of that.
< 1725212531 239778 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 ik. thats why maybe it would only be for FSA's
< 1725212540 868335 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so your esolang will need to be more powerful than the languages it's operating on, and it's hard to do that while remaining computable (but this isn't really interesting if the language can't be implemented)
< 1725212552 625044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725212555 497747 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
< 1725212569 785123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Plus being well too familiar with Gödel's theorems and related ones by Rosser and Tarski and Kleene and I forgot who else already)
< 1725212572 591970 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like all turing complete esolangs cant be implemented(but still yea)
< 1725212586 963266 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1725212601 872835 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1725212632 178007 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like not constructing theorems as a esolang
< 1725212639 254704 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like apply dis and dis operaotr
< 1725212643 813579 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :until you get a bool
< 1725212646 383915 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :somehow
< 1725212647 756084 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk'
< 1725212682 461850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you simpify too much you probably end up in the vicinity of SAT and SMT solvers.
< 1725212705 420995 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :an esoteric SAT solver would be fun, although arguably the existing SAT solvers are esoteric already
< 1725212710 870534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is a SAT and SMT solver??????
< 1725212722 117156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/and/or/
< 1725212722 640761 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually, violin already exists, sort of
< 1725212729 255071 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725212737 158037 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SAT is "(boolean) satisfiability"
< 1725212741 586723 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1725212746 136137 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's in a repository and might even build if you somehow manage to figure out the right sequence of commands
< 1725212750 358854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you do that
< 1725212754 462094 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :convert a lang to a bool
< 1725212757 926818 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and do it correctly
< 1725212774 396614 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SMT is "satisfiability modulo theories"; I /could/ explain more I suppose but Wikipedia probably does a better job without any effort on my part :P
> 1725212794 563814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137695 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+316) 10Created page with "'''Nope. with no quine''' is an esolang created by [[User:Ractangle]] based on those "None. without a quine" esolangs. it's basicly [[Nope.]] with no quine. So that basicly means:  if you put "None." to the input. The interpriter will print:   and if you pu
< 1725212796 399293 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also all inconstent things are not TC right?
< 1725212810 336219 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(violin is specialised for INTERCAL reverse assignments, like .1 $ .2 <- #12345, and works out what values to assign to the variables to make them work even if the same variable is used twice)
< 1725212824 315667 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725212824 553414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :inconsistent theories have no models, so are they "things" at all :P
< 1725212837 402965 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does what im saying even make sense?
< 1725212854 890130 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, arguably an inconsistent theory resolves everything that's implied by a contradiction to bottom, so it's the equivalent of a language where none of those programs halt
< 1725212865 804249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I think it's an "idea" but it's pretty vague.
< 1725212871 756237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725212873 817801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure if it's possible to still be TC despite that, if it doesn't have the law of excluded middle or the like
< 1725212883 326623 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1725212887 538061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that some things can be meaningfully true or false despite the inconsistency
< 1725212895 63701 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :CA's don halt
< 1725212925 11991 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, but you can define a way to observe the equivalent of a halt
< 1725212931 882038 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725212935 40910 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. in a CA you can define a halt as being an exact repeat of a previous state
< 1725212941 746206 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but cant you do that for something that doesnt halt?????
< 1725212943 404322 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've never made an esolang because fleshing out ideas is hard. It's easier *within* a framework so I've analyzed a few of the existing ones.
< 1725212967 650190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will start working on dis
< 1725212977 158216 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: yes – the exact definition of halting becomes somewhat subjective when dealing with weak versions of Turing-completeness in which you're allowed to change the halt condition
< 1725212990 664293 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725212996 519814 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so kinda
< 1725213014 42765 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :either some inconsitent systems are TC or GoL is not TC ig????
< 1725213038 198016 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :weak Turing-completeness isn't very easy to define precisely and the definition is still debated
< 1725213049 865411 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :GoL is TC but in what sense would it be consistent or inconsistent?
> 1725213051 618630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137696&oldid=137695 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+133) 10
< 1725213063 478073 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not a logical system in any obvious way.
< 1725213077 772674 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow this went of the rails o_o
< 1725213084 728097 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e yea
< 1725213088 297908 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: conceptually, isn't that because it's untyped?
< 1725213099 257835 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can send a spaceship at an interface that's expecting a glider and *something* happens
< 1725213105 751354 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just not necessarily what you intended
< 1725213108 833373 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725213113 271265 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig
< 1725213117 773055 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow dis is confusing
> 1725213123 922162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137697&oldid=137633 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10/* Esolangs */
< 1725213124 330767 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf even does logic MEAN??????
< 1725213128 368395 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :meanwhile, untyped lambda calculus is TC, but is inconsistent if you try to interpret it as a proof system
< 1725213144 263902 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It doesnt mean algebra since how tf is GoL algebra????
< 1725213144 450856 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: sure there's an emergent level of abstraction where you have a type system of sorts
< 1725213149 370999 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd call it non-obvious
< 1725213154 243899 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats gor sure
< 1725213157 292764 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*for
< 1725213198 448702 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow, I just realised something that might be completely wrong, or even meaningless – but in the Curry-Howard correspondence, aren't consistent systems necessarily total, and the ones that can write infinite loops the ones that can prove false?
< 1725213204 101768 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1725213211 308187 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just found out somethin(i think)
< 1725213222 39813 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so in a sense, it's *only* the inconsistent systems that are TC, none of the consistent ones
< 1725213224 839076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i made dis stubid esolang : https://esolangs.org/wiki/Not
< 1725213233 556437 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heres the thing i found out:
< 1725213249 35889 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :either not is more powerfull than a PDA
< 1725213260 957455 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or a PDA can make the program on the black page
< 1725213262 177615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sounds mostly correct to me. There's the codata trick though.
< 1725213264 633565 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think??????
< 1725213281 431742 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: not is indeed more powerful than a PDA in some respects, but less powerful in other respects
< 1725213292 131085 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725213294 30203 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like
< 1725213296 857115 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :codata Result a = Result a | Step (Result a)
< 1725213302 331993 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a *full respect*
< 1725213303 499291 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :imagine what happens to the stack after you do 1#1[1+==#N] (this is your example program with an extra =)
< 1725213317 669074 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the resulting state of the stack is something that a PDA can't even express, it is two-dimensional
< 1725213323 609301 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1725213325 699534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeee
< 1725213336 787447 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with a type like that you can split your computation into a sequence of steps that each terminate
< 1725213339 247906 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, the language can't do some things that PDAs can do easily, like read memory in a way that affects control flow
< 1725213350 578858 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725213368 809738 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like
< 1725213369 191728 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: one of my first esolangs was like that, [[e:Wiki Cyclic Tag]]
< 1725213377 521444 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wiki_Cyclic_Tag
< 1725213382 225678 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf even is it
< 1725213387 337761 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess this corresponds to Kleene's normal form (one outer fixed point/minimization/while loop)
< 1725213389 635543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf is not??????
< 1725213402 701397 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :MediaWIki doesn't support infinite loops, so you have to manually rerun the next loop of the program
< 1725213411 574100 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725213416 391954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but thats allowed
< 1725213421 449207 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1725213423 81232 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz like
< 1725213430 345300 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :people consider html and css TC
< 1725213435 368807 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it need user input forever
> 1725213439 342495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137698&oldid=137696 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+87) 10Categories
< 1725213443 67741 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: languages don't have to be in the main computational classes – it's normally very simple languages that aren't, because they don't have enough power for their operations to substitute for each other, so adding new operations gives new powers
< 1725213457 655610 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725213487 258150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder what a not comp calss would look like lol :]
< 1725213493 482771 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :think about HQ9+, it has effectively no computational power at all – but if it did, then the HQ9+ commands would be redundant
< 1725213502 414471 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
> 1725213505 130077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137699&oldid=136324 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+46) 10Distinguish confusion
< 1725213513 388253 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but because it isn't, each command is contributing to the language in it s own very limited way, so it is in a computational class of HQ9+-alikes
> 1725213518 341897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137700&oldid=137698 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+48) 10Distinguish confusion
< 1725213536 841312 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it is hard to create another language in this class without creating essentially the same language but with different syntax
> 1725213548 324428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Not14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137701&oldid=135881 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+20) 10
< 1725213556 438747 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725213613 538420 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaaa my brain is breakin
< 1725213629 342165 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i wonder if Not has any paradoxe:)
> 1725213658 571843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:S14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137702 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10Created page with "{{{1}}}"
< 1725213697 227583 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf wtf
< 1725213702 60101 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so confused
> 1725213705 27254 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137703&oldid=137702 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10
< 1725213732 591233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but its for sure in a *full* perspective not is less powerfull than a PDA
< 1725213761 414385 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :computational power isn't a straight line
< 1725213772 191087 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we say language X is more powerful than language Y if X can do everything Y can do, and more
< 1725213782 430913 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725213784 235670 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
< 1725213784 562670 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but sometimes, there are two languages, and each can do things that the other can't
< 1725213801 59207 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if the only thing x can do thaty y cant is a no-op
< 1725213807 514448 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :something non important
< 1725213812 803398 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also ive found a way to cheat
< 1725213816 139011 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's still a power difference, and possibly an interesting one
< 1725213834 505377 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can just count the number of 1's in a not string as a symbol in a PDA
< 1725213834 709330 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :writing a language that can't do a nop is hard unless you're doing something like enforcing output
< 1725213848 30305 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, except a PDA can't have infinitely many symbols
< 1725213859 997136 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1725213860 812703 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that specifically is the thing that gives Not the extra power
< 1725213864 384779 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why?????
< 1725213898 220847 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because PDAs are normally defined in terms of a lookup table: "when there's an X on top of the stack, and a Y on the input, and you're in state Z, do «thing»"
< 1725213911 719735 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if you had infinitely many symbols you'd need an infinitely big program
< 1725213918 961628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1725213928 825970 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaa dis is kinda hard
> 1725213932 768005 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Old Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137704&oldid=135725 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+244) 10
> 1725213942 634308 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Old Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137705&oldid=137704 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10
< 1725213957 264535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is it?????
< 1725213964 385582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaaaa im annoying myself
< 1725213975 217809 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt know not could confuse me so much'
< 1725213975 600610 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, here's an example: if Not had input, you could write a program that input a string, then printed it twice
< 1725213976 761398 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
> 1725213976 933680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137706&oldid=137217 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+28) 10/* See also */
< 1725213978 182607 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can't do that with a PDA
< 1725213981 951798 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: take a break. get some fresh air. :)
< 1725213989 458252 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant
< 1725213992 280555 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its to late lol
< 1725214007 78931 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
> 1725214015 733689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Old Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137707&oldid=137705 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+30) 10
< 1725214029 295492 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is dis allowed in a pda?:
< 1725214029 796510 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for all symbol and state Y do «thing»
< 1725214034 128130 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since then
< 1725214041 779415 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since Not has no conditional
< 1725214046 520128 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would work
< 1725214071 699421 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's sort-of allowed, but the «thing» wouldn't be able to follow an infinite pattern
< 1725214078 633289 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :otherwise you get more power than a PDA is normally allowed to have
> 1725214081 358231 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137708&oldid=137697 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+55) 10/* Esolangs */
> 1725214095 705182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137709&oldid=137708 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+13) 10/* Esolangs */
< 1725214111 2713 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so no infinite loops???
< 1725214124 280098 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can have an infinite loop, you just need to stay in a known state
< 1725214132 150347 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :HA
< 1725214142 710032 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"when there's a 1 on top of the stack and you're in state 1, stay in state 1 and leave the 1 on top of the stack", that sort of thing
< 1725214143 293869 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then Not is representable in a PDA
< 1725214148 668897 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless im wrong in some way
< 1725214153 812464 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, a PDA cannot do the concatenation
< 1725214158 438132 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725214163 546222 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if you have infit e symbols
< 1725214168 437109 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to represnt the ones
< 1725214171 435562 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you just say
< 1725214173 488697 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then the concatenation would be an infinite pattern
< 1725214181 462101 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is not allowed
< 1725214184 339354 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait f--
< 1725214187 59711 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaaaaa
< 1725214191 558828 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whyyyyyyyyyy
< 1725214207 80459 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :computational classes are defined more by what they can't do, than by what they can
< 1725214216 347708 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725214227 689928 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol i think i find this to funny
< 1725214238 640639 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is why the https://esolangs.org/wiki/Looping_counter test is useful, if a language can do that it proves that it isn't just a PDA or LBA
< 1725214250 441596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LBA?
< 1725214272 609776 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it might have a unique or unusual computational class, especially if it's simple or defined based on a list of examples, but if that seems unlikely it raises the chance it's TC
< 1725214277 779412 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LBA = "linear-bounded automaton"
< 1725214282 166872 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Little Big Adventure, scnr
< 1725214284 618999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1725214291 759003 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Linear_bounded_automaton
> 1725214303 952215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Old Branjunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137710&oldid=137707 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+98) 10
< 1725214304 264182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :What else... Linear Block Adressing
< 1725214311 648993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my favourite example is https://esolangs.org/wiki/BuzzFizz which was intentionally designed as one
< 1725214320 454362 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so its somewhere between a LBA and a TM
< 1725214328 793431 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 i like the name
< 1725214334 692040 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it can do most of the popular problems, but not looping counters because an LBA can't do that one
< 1725214347 99952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its incredible
< 1725214353 623395 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how much the esolang comunity has proove
< 1725214366 834559 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like if you want to choose something just get some esolang guys interested in it
< 1725214383 892170 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*proove or disproove something
< 1725214388 271244 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul
< 1725214390 728919 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's been a lot of people over a lot of years, and some of us have a lot of practice
> 1725214396 166565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Imprecision14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137711&oldid=137690 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+168) 10Add interpreter
< 1725214402 687848 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unlike me
< 1725214402 992195 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: fungot isn't here
< 1725214407 502891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725214436 252967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wtf û looks like a pencil
< 1725214438 88147 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1725214441 731219 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not in mono
< 1725214456 279059 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WHAT ARE YOU not
< 1725214465 286331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the name is like a metaphor
< 1725214469 759796 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh good, I was procrastinating on writing an Imprecision interpreter and someone wrote one already
< 1725214471 740854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but unintentioal
< 1725214481 629914 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or however you speel it
< 1725214501 631596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"im *not* going to be normal" or something like dat
< 1725214590 65073 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaaaa
< 1725214600 460012 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how the hell is not destroying me
< 1725214602 488951 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like dis
< 1725214666 404317 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a f- it
< 1725214680 215177 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im just going to keep on going
< 1725214725 28799 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bbchallenge has spent a while trying to do something that has been proven impossible to continue indefinitely, to see how far they get
< 1725214741 200150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725214745 676865 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bbchallenge?
< 1725214749 231743 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut is dat?
> 1725214764 313791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Looping counter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137712&oldid=136507 5* 03Int-e 5* (+74) 10add Unlambda
< 1725214791 609994 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: they are working through all Turing machines in the order of simplest to most complicated, trying to work out which ones halt and which ones don't
< 1725214791 915757 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :busy beaver challenge I suppose
< 1725214819 732861 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is known that at some point, we will reach a Turing machine that doesn't halt, but this is impossible to prove
< 1725214824 961837 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but not where
< 1725214833 911021 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725214837 982957 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why???
< 1725214850 450857 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it is also possible that we will reach a Turing machine that does halt, but we can't prove it and can't simulate it for long enough to observe it halting)
< 1725214860 703311 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :can we blame this on Chaitin ;-)
< 1725214877 269855 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"we" here is general, I hardly did anything
< 1725214887 162022 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a facet of the halting problem being undecidable
> 1725214900 598283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Looping counter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137713&oldid=137712 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+26) 10added not cuz its possible
< 1725214932 133318 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you could, for each Turing machine, whether it halts or not, then you could decide the halting problem simply by enumerating all possible proofs until one of them does the trick for the TM in question.
< 1725214933 891989 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: oh wow, looping counter without s or k
< 1725214951 472735 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the ``ci`ci infinite loop is weird
< 1725214964 532316 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's basically that with output
< 1725214985 909423 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I am tempted to make a generalization of https://esolangs.org/wiki/Subtle_cough by adding the identity function to it
< 1725215017 886768 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's not original code... some example like this was in Madoore's original distribution)
< 1725215024 112193 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my current guess is "still sub-TC" but it's hard to tell
< 1725215051 166269 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but it should be too simple for copyright issues, plus I reconstructed it on the spot :P)
< 1725215055 506910 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you do that ais523 then plz name it general cough plz
< 1725215059 211668 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe
< 1725215060 82745 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725215076 32202 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the hard-mode version would be c+d+i
< 1725215094 797161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1725215096 461724 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe just c+d?
< 1725215108 959092 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :d is sort-of like an identity function
< 1725215114 451833 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you said it took years for you to make eoslangs
< 1725215117 310380 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*esolangs
< 1725215125 357995 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not to say you lie or anythin')
< 1725215133 284248 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and not to annoy you)
< 1725215277 614284 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but
< 1725215281 743320 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you made on yester day
< 1725215286 73254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now your making another
< 1725215288 233119 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or are you
< 1725215292 16925 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im confused i tihnk
< 1725215294 340234 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*think
< 1725215297 476113 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't really count that as making an esolang
< 1725215301 449440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I did, in a way
< 1725215301 918261 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: nobody said that *all* languages take that long to make
< 1725215308 355514 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725215309 609123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also this one is a variation on an existing one
< 1725215317 601896 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also true
< 1725215323 800152 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, removing commands from an esolang is easy, it's probably even easier than adding them
< 1725215340 61526 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :having some reason to think that removing commands from an esolang might be *interesting* takes insight, but in this case it wasn't my insight
< 1725215342 919202 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea'
< 1725215354 485561 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1725215361 320565 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and besides it's not done
< 1725215370 659681 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, I didn't originally notice that ~ in Underload could be implemented in terms of the other commands, someone else noticed that
< 1725215378 821380 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because I imagine ais523 wouldn't write anything about it unless it's somehow actually interesting
> 1725215386 493394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137714&oldid=137709 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10
< 1725215388 606211 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a *controverisal* thing somebody said:
< 1725215389 114585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a good esolang take three things: boredom, ot much freedom, an ADHD
< 1725215389 569081 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and both c and d are... awkward.
< 1725215406 826806 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: right, although I guess not knowing whether it's interesting or not is interesting in its own way?
< 1725215416 877322 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aa wut
< 1725215421 281719 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that normally takes a few days of thought to determine that it isn't uninteresting in a non-obvious way, though
< 1725215446 203768 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and oerjan isn't a regular here nowadays – oerjan was good at that sort of thing, probably better than me
< 1725215491 702722 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is promising in that c and d kind of offset each other; c makes termination harder; d makes termination easier
< 1725215521 646317 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :%s/Ciolkovski/Ciolkovskij/g
< 1725215527 336596 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I was considering a call-with-previous-continuation operation in an esolang I was working on recently
< 1725215535 483000 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :my brain just wants to shut off though so I won't think about it
< 1725215543 976564 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the difference is that call/cc, if you call the continuation, the argument effectively replaces the entire call/cc call
< 1725215576 160810 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with call/pc, if you call the continuation, it effectively replaces the *argument* to the call/pc call, so it gets given the same continuation again and continues from there
< 1725215608 882347 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this day has made me hate not
< 1725215610 642884 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is equivalent in logics that don't have linear-logic-like restrictions on duplicating and discarding values
< 1725215618 570188 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will add that to my user page
< 1725215621 263048 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's easier to use for some things
> 1725215651 570236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137715&oldid=137610 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+22) 10
< 1725215755 694537 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ITYM Циолковский
< 1725215760 802796 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :;-)
> 1725215764 15383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137716&oldid=137345 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+221) 10/* test topic */ new section
< 1725215764 56582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the
< 1725215765 613140 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725215766 945982 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: channel logs webserver seems inaccessible
< 1725215797 1008 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(except for the front page)
< 1725215803 153792 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: try an invalid URL, it 404s right away
< 1725215817 423253 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :server's accessible but is having trouble serving for some reason
< 1725215838 182327 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm guessing it's the "stalker mode sometimes makes it get stuck" thing, which I hoped would've been fixed when I updated CivetWeb.
< 1725215839 842304 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I've forgotten essentially all the russian I've learned but I can still use the cyrillic script :P
> 1725215843 987572 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137717&oldid=137716 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* test topic */
< 1725215856 128836 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The front page, and 404s, are served by nginx; only the logs are served by the special log-server binary.
< 1725215857 991044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725215899 713949 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Restarted it, and it works again, but will probably break at some point in the future for the same reason.
< 1725215913 336676 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of these days I'll debug it. But not today.
< 1725215915 200619 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :chat must look so confusing
< 1725215932 463019 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: sure, just narrowed it down because /sometimes/ something usually stable like DNS breaks
< 1725216055 303063 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: to be clear, COME FROM was originally proposed as a joke replacement instead of GO TO, so it is by design that that they are equivalent. The joke was that there's an influential paper by Dijkstra where he explains why languages like FORTRAN should have a structured IF and WHILE statement, and you should write program using those rather than with conditional GO TO statements. So the COME FROM 
< 1725216061 310589 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :proposal starts from the base idea that GO TO is harmful, but then proposes an even worse solution.
< 1725216089 216320 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: oh ok
< 1725216208 538624 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: they aren't equivalent in interpreted languages, goto is much more efficient to implement
< 1725216208 610308 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: IRC can get convoluted. It used to be worse :)
< 1725216219 54890 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725216245 908694 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. you can't come from in a scripting interpreter that starts executing commands before it's fully parsed the program
< 1725216348 354697 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
< 1725216478 851832 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, Random-access machine is the computational model that is rather similar to the 70s and 80s computers which had a CPU and RAM running on the same clock, with no cache other than sometimes a 1-byte data prefetch, so every RAM access has the same cost. Only the model abstracts away the part that the available RAM and address space is necessarily finite. I think it could have been discovered earlier, 
< 1725216484 837826 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but back then computers stored data on disks/drums or tape or mercury delay loop rather than core memory or SRAM or DRAM, so the abstraction was deeper, pretending that it always took the same amount of time to access any cell, even though that usually wasn't true for disks.  
< 1725216507 907193 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The variant of call/cc that I had consider is law of excluded middle continuations
< 1725216542 577102 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: interesting
< 1725216566 806363 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although now that I think of it, https://www.righto.com/2024/08/minuteman-guidance-computer.html describes a computer that stores its work memory on a disk, but its CPU clock cycles are synchronized with the disk's rotation, and it has a separate head for each track, so it does actually access its memory in constant time!
< 1725216625 371506 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's the D-37 family of computers.
< 1725216674 689607 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey, the logs web server fixed itself, thank you
< 1725216689 584872 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: fizzie poked it
< 1725216714 176034 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thank you fizzie
< 1725216754 663276 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: i just got reminded of the c'mon do something meme but something happend
< 1725216795 700608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: honestly I'm not sure how many memes there are that both of us know
< 1725216805 638069 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not many
< 1725216808 567905 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I'm not sure what you're referring to)
< 1725216822 69180 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill send a link
< 1725216827 50236 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or am i allowed?
< 1725216847 399766 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :links are fine (within reason)
< 1725216867 418978 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://imgflip.com/i/923fer
< 1725216887 932331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is is
< 1725216890 11690 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*it
< 1725216918 322828 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1725216970 850402 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, but the library catalogs store russian names in ISO-9 scientific transcription, presumably so that they could type them on a typewriter with fewer type elements, and then this got kept when the catalog got digitized, so if I type Ciolkovskij in the digital catalog https://nektar2.oszk.hu/LVbin/LibriVision/lv_search_form.html then it works (though gives some false positives for other people 
< 1725216973 319920 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see.
< 1725216976 849738 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with the same family name), but if I enter Циолковский then it finds nothing
< 1725217012 55248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that's kind of sad
< 1725217023 252043 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is a bug, the library catalog software should be able to find transliterated versions of the name if I type Циолковский, but I have to know the workaround 
< 1725217076 405578 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ahhh. radioactive theme. make my brain go yes
< 1725217086 646401 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and last I was in the building, they still had parts of the catalog not digitized, so I may have to search in the cupboards of catalog slips by the transcribed name sorted in alphabetic order
< 1725217134 992637 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if OSzK and/or Rényi Int kvt still has parts of their catalogs not yet digitized though, maybe they scanned everything by now
< 1725217154 328937 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Using 'j' for 'й' (which in context mostly extends the 'и' vowel) is also a bit weird, but whatever.
< 1725217190 100931 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's hard to argue with standards)
< 1725217202 763517 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cf. https://xkcd.com/927/
< 1725217227 477868 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725217328 988735 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry for bringing this up again but:
< 1725217329 482868 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how the hell is not more powerfull than whats just a TM but with bounded memory
< 1725217394 576784 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just like
< 1725217403 995704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need unbounded memory to keep track of the number of 1s to print between newlines
< 1725217407 769104 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: the ISO 9 transcription wants to be a simple reversible transliteration that takes one letter always to one letter, so I think that makes sense. There are other transliterations that don't try to keep that.
< 1725217419 797048 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all you need is duplication concatenation and infinite loops
< 1725217434 783471 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also ISO 9 tries to transliterate all languages written in cyrillic letters uniformly, but in a way that's optimized for Russian first 
< 1725217435 754892 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :log(N) -> oo as N -> oo.
< 1725217442 766924 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut???
< 1725217484 641431 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And since there's no input, an LBA only gets finite memory here.
< 1725217521 466393 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even with input it can be a LBA(see buzzfizz)
< 1725217533 359644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The memory is bounded by a linear (technically affine to make the zero sized input case work) function in the input size.)
< 1725217545 612803 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think Serbian second, so that the transliterations for letters usually matches the Gaj serbian transliteration, except for ј where Russian takes precedence, and for the letters where serbian transliterates one cyrillic letter to two latin letters
< 1725217562 669330 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: here, have an infinity symbol: ∞
< 1725217582 818162 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it looks ugly in my terminal font :P
< 1725217591 986986 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did not know about Minuteman computer now I see
< 1725217601 457364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :o∞o
< 1725217607 961587 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one digit number for the standard is really cool by the way. do you know any other ISO or ECMA or ANSI etc standards with such a cool name?
< 1725217622 30297 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the book I learned about computer construction from was written a little after magnetic core memory was invented
< 1725217638 938573 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and had sections on both digital and analog computers, although there was more space devoted to digital
< 1725217654 205223 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/owo.png
< 1725217660 391674 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: aren't Ecma standards normally just two digits long? although they might have reached three digits by now
< 1725217678 423916 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: two letters yes, but I don't think I've seen any one-digit one
< 1725217685 968121 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ISO have cool-sounding numbers for some of the standards, like ISO 9000 (the standards themselves are less interesting though)
< 1725217692 199651 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the name with ISO is more impressive with how most ISO standards have longer names
< 1725217776 791571 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this IRC channel tried to set up a standards organisation once, but it didn't get as far as publishing even a single standard
< 1725217781 226251 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: BuzzFizz has unbounded counters, so that means unbounded memory.
< 1725217782 571155 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I think it was planning to do BF first, unsuprisingly)
< 1725217802 258616 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: wait wut
< 1725217810 177226 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then its not a LBA????
< 1725217811 541880 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: but it can be implemented with memory that's bounded linearly by the input
< 1725217837 880429 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay so it can't do the looping counter
< 1725217846 278289 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: the trick is that although the counters can theoretically go arbitrarily high, every very high value is indistinguishable from some lower value, and you can determine that statically
< 1725217857 802287 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I admit "typewriters" is too specific a reason, the library catalog even on a digital computer would probably have used a latin transliteration until about 1990 the least
< 1725217859 711337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725217860 694378 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can "cheat" by storing the higher values as a lower one
< 1725217863 80727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: right I didn't read that far
< 1725217885 471539 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1725217889 721870 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(well, "statically based on the input" which is how you get the LBA's input-dependence)
< 1725217891 913167 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does buzzfizz have strings?
< 1725217894 658287 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1725217899 716615 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725217903 777816 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :except for string literals in the print statements
< 1725217911 390627 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale
< 1725217912 43280 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :else you could prop implement not
< 1725217913 280775 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait
< 1725217931 240668 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not an LBA for the purpose of printing stuff
< 1725217943 770357 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you sure?
< 1725217952 440422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can print a counter
< 1725217956 28675 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"this IRC channel tried to set up a standards organisation once" => wait what?
< 1725217962 193240 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: oh, ouch, that is probably a mistake
< 1725217976 960776 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it collapsed into bikeshedding about what typesetting software to use, I think
< 1725217989 872759 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it didn't get as far as considering issues like hosting or getting anyone to pay any attention to it
< 1725218000 701651 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but for properties like halting it's an LBA
< 1725218055 281480 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill have to leave in a bit sorry
< 1725218056 951921 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig
< 1725218068 339545 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said... I still don't think that it can do the loooping counter even if you abuse the ability to print counter values
< 1725218088 274513 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :typical. hopefully tom7 will improve his BoVeX esoteric typesetting system to a point where we can standardize on that. though we may need to write a texinfo-like template for it that can compile to either HTML or printable PDF.
< 1725218092 578300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: it's fine, people drop off and return all the time
< 1725218103 299918 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wont return tho
< 1725218106 573966 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not for now
< 1725218122 162220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure it may take hours, days, weeks... sometimes more
< 1725218123 618858 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::P
< 1725218125 30914 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :conversations here often move slowly
< 1725218131 657958 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we continue them across hours or days quite often
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< 1725218142 679472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there are logs to help...
< 1725218145 498138 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...haha
> 1725218280 391696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFizz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137718&oldid=58772 5* 03Int-e 5* (+96) 10nitpick
< 1725218333 414285 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-09-01.html#l5f APL Del editor, ∇ editor, for log search purposes
< 1725218501 464636 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: ironically that capability to print the counter is quite essential for FizzBuzz
< 1725218504 788258 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"sort of – it gets complicated when you have multiple gotos or comefroms aiming at the same line" => that's how Chomsky context-free grammars work if you translate it to a nondeterministic stack automata, but with a very different semantics for multiple COME FROM from the same place as in Intercal
< 1725218515 618250 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :re https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-09-01.html#lpf
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< 1725218546 263698 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it's not very different, it's actually pretty similar
< 1725218559 81107 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C-INTERCAL implements backtracking and threading using the same internal primitives
< 1725218641 764599 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we should look up the original article proposing come from and link it from https://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages https://esolangs.org/wiki/INTERCAL https://esolangs.org/wiki/C-INTERCAL
> 1725218719 612233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137719 5* 03B jonas 5* (+26) 10Redirected page to [[Game of Life]]
< 1725218795 794582 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I admit I haven't really looked at how threaded intercal worked, it didn't seem interesting enough an extension
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< 1725218957 530364 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the way it does inter-thread communication is probably the most interesting part, and ended up being useful for single-threaded programming too
< 1725219240 652400 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm trying to recall... was it a one-shot version of REINSTATE?
< 1725219300 150807 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :" a consistency checking esolang" => would a modern SAT solver or finite domain logic programming solver count? how about just Prolog? 
< 1725219305 21510 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I'll look it up myself)
< 1725219447 648698 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, statement get an optional ONCE/AGAIN flag and 'ONCE' can toggle the NOT flag. Yeah, I think my memory got close enough :)
< 1725219462 381544 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it's a statement modifier that flips the abstention status once when the status runs, and then turns itself off, but it turns itself back on again if it gets externally abstained/reinstated
< 1725219585 619095 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and this is guaranteed to be atomic in that if two threads run into a statement that is currently reinstanted once only then exactly one will execute that statement?
< 1725219605 500717 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1725219635 530609 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's convenient, yes. though you'll also need some way to pause a thread without a spinloop.
< 1725219662 449427 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you have to spin here
> 1725219733 785500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sculptlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137720&oldid=136486 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10
< 1725219735 109614 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and nothing stops you from ineffectively REINSTATING a DO ... ONCE statement or ABSTAINING FROM a DON'T ... ONCE one.
< 1725219759 990611 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So there's some effort to make this awkward.
< 1725219856 43915 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :“ inconsistent theories have no models, so are they ‘things’ at all” => yes, in that because there are interesting theories where we can't tell if they have models or not, we want to be able to talk about a model even if it might be inconsistent for all we know
< 1725219876 867216 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the link I'm looking at is https://web.archive.org/web/20160303230852/http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~malcolmr/intercal/threaded.html
< 1725219880 465186 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's like being able to talk about a person who may be dead, even if a known dead person isn't interesting
< 1725219922 795174 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I was playing with the idea that the meta level is less tangible than the object level
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< 1725219931 184568 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and things should be tangible
< 1725219936 524464 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wasn't too serious
< 1725220048 937670 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that case you'd have to say that theories aren't things, regardless if they're consistent, only models are things
< 1725220095 661196 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have bigger gripes in the same conceptual space... the reversed roles of reification and reflection in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/reflection-2.1.8/docs/Data-Reflection.html :P (values are concrete, so reification should be the process of expressing a type as a value, while reflection does the opposite... but no, it's the opposite)
< 1725220158 914053 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"I've never made an esolang because fleshing out ideas is hard." => the trick is to make a toy language or experimental language, and then posting it on the esolang wiki because those are off-topic enough
< 1725220211 502280 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by toy language I mean a language whose main goal is to learn how to implement a language; an experimental language is one that has features that are probably not good to put in a real language, but you want to explore their consequences so you put them into a language anyway.
< 1725220255 755894 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, not really, by toy language I mean a language whose main goal is to learn how to *design and develop* a language, which may involve implementing it, but that's not strictly necessary
< 1725220346 37440 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so toy language ends up as not practical mostly by the limitations of its creator, because they don't know how to make a good enough practical language; while experimental language ends up as not practical because you are trying an esoteric idea
< 1725220368 740596 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or too many strange ideas in the same language, where a few of those ideas may turn out to be good
> 1725220393 579169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Uyjhmn n14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137721&oldid=132744 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-28) 10/* See also */
< 1725220405 683155 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't care too much about whether such languages count as esoteric or not, they're on topic enough for the wiki and channel 
> 1725220417 353808 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Uyjhmn--10]] to [[I love circuit boards]]
> 1725220454 21583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I love circuit boards14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137724&oldid=137722 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1719) 10Replaced content with "{{Stub}} '''I love circuit boards''' is a circuit board esolang [[Category:Languages]][[Category:2024]][[Category:Unimplemented]]"
> 1725220724 809604 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I love circuit boards14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137725&oldid=137724 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+143) 10
> 1725221340 523693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOP (esolang)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137726&oldid=137692 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+2) 10
< 1725221616 266053 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: wait, what is call/pc ? I heard of call/cc and call/ec . is this something related to delimited continuations?
< 1725221656 191792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :'p' is for 'previous' and there's an explanation of that in context
< 1725221787 648778 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"which I hoped would've been fixed when I updated CivetWeb" => I recently upgraded Oracle VirtualBox on my work machine because it sometimes used to crash with a segfault in the process running on the host. after the upgrade, multiple times it froze while the Windows guest was shutting down. this might not be a Virtualbox bug, it's possible that the guest freezes, but if so the timing is strange because 
< 1725221793 657141 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think that ever happened before, certainly not repeatedly.
< 1725222003 312870 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :" cf. https://xkcd.com/927/" => oh, there absolutely are that many standards for transliterating russian to latin script.
> 1725222189 74887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137727&oldid=134895 5* 03B jonas 5* (+152) 10/* Todo */ D-17, thank you for the reminder zzo38
> 1725222241 91410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137728&oldid=132517 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+666) 10yet another rewrite
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> 1725222508 339030 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sculptlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137731&oldid=137720 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/137720|137720]] by [[Special:Contributions/Ractangle|Ractangle]] ([[User talk:Ractangle|talk]])
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< 1725223015 71417 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Hmm BuzzFizz should have enough for full LBA capability if we adopt a convention that the first input is 2^M if we want to simulate an M-bit tape. We get full finite control and counters modulo 2^M, and we can decrement a counter by zeroing an auxiliary counter, incrementing it once, and then incrementing both counters until the auxiliary counter is 0.
> 1725223028 306726 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137734&oldid=137733 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-62) 10Blanked the page
< 1725223071 49247 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, else: isn't needed for full finite control; you can maintain your own modulo 2 counter for that instead
> 1725223208 298233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.js14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137735&oldid=136372 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-157) 10uwu
< 1725223210 165389 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(incidentally the example that adds two numbers doesn't use else: either)
< 1725223300 370818 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also since if ...: can be nested you can implement finite control with N states with log_2(N) toggles.
< 1725223354 632108 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with a silly opportunity to employ a Gray code.
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< 1725224569 334234 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ooh, nice proof – so I guess the hard part is doing it only with the numbers in the input
< 1725224629 513230 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also I was wondering when Tommyaweosme was going to blank that CSS page)
< 1725224652 140443 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that JS edit could be trouble, I think it is likely to screw up edited pages, cloud-to-butt style
< 1725224674 313332 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'll wait for it to demonstrate that it's a problem before blanking, just in case it isn't
> 1725224727 540384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Uyjhmn--/Brainfuck interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137736&oldid=130673 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+146) 10Link, category
< 1725224737 353498 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :else: was included mostly because FizzBuzzes do that rather than for LBA-completeness
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< 1725225235 897142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that makes sense
< 1725225243 987442 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't watched this recent video yet, but it has a clickbait title related to stuff on-topic here => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFoXooShZXc
< 1725225340 697811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is a cute pun
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< 1725230915 818363 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For the MtG fans who didn't see it yet: https://david.kolo.ski/blog/sort-library-steps-mtg/
< 1725230930 641515 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A judge discusses this in a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhZnHJBH4Ag
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< 1725231831 874354 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.righto.com/2023/08/datapoint-to-8086.html “Following the 8080, Intel intended to revolutionize microprocessors with a 32-bit ‘micro-mainframe’, the iAPX 432. This extremely complex processor implemented objects, memory management, interprocess communication, and fine-grained memory protection in hardware. The iAPX 432 was too ambitious and the project fell behind schedule, leaving 
< 1725231837 881377 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Intel vulnerable against competitors such as Motorola and Zilog. Intel quickly threw together a 16-bit processor as a stopgap until the iAPX 432 was ready;” => that means Intel's microprocessor development lab was capable of executing and reordering independent models way before they made the Pentium and Pentium Pro which were their first CPUs that could execute independent instructions in parallel 
< 1725231843 895030 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and reorder instruction respectively.
< 1725231953 268246 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hehe, that's funny
< 1725232771 221046 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.righto.com/2024/08/pentium-navajo-fairchild-shiprock.html => hmm, do we have a thematic esolang for this, one where the source code is woven fabric and it's interpreted as if it were plans for an integrated circuit?
< 1725234464 159252 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know what is BoVeX. What I think would be useful in a typesetting system is to be able to include PostScript codes which can be executed during the decisions of typesetting, and not only at the end when the output is being made.
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< 1725242534 689892 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About setting up a standards organization but standards were not made, I think though, that I had tried to make up one, which is a chording keyboard that uses the same combinations as the IBM format of punched cards, e.g. 0 and 9 together will make "Z". There will be a separate space key and enter key.
< 1725243668 530832 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The other thing I had wanted to do is like Dewey decimal system with TV shows and movies, so that you can select them by number on a on demand service. After each digit is entered, a menu can be displayed with the choices for the next digit, and then afterward finally you can select which one you want from that menu by entering the rest of the digits according to the specific movie you want.
> 1725245718 874135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(,)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137749&oldid=119053 5* 03Dadsdy 5* (-42) 10/* Discord */
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< 1725250506 433130 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I had also written other stuff though, such as Scorpion protocol/file-format.)
< 1725250542 851056 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe we will be able to make a standard organization if you have ideas about what kind of standards documents you will intend to write.
< 1725250584 326832 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that it was mentioned that my ideas about chording keyboard might be suitable. So, next time you make up something else, and then we will have enough to make it, even if they contradict each other
> 1725252839 90653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137750&oldid=137714 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-53) 10/* Esolangs */
> 1725253057 885354 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137751&oldid=137700 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+109) 10
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> 1725259789 289655 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137752&oldid=137683 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+189) 10
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< 1725260880 23081 :schoolwwwwwww!~schoolwww@2.109.102.67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
< 1725260886 701225 :schoolwwwwwww!~schoolwww@2.109.102.67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im just wwwww
< 1725260891 586209 :schoolwwwwwww!~schoolwww@2.109.102.67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever the name was
< 1725260899 765963 :schoolwwwwwww!~schoolwww@2.109.102.67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but im not on my pu'er rn
< 1725260973 358833 :schoolwwwwwww!~schoolwww@2.109.102.67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so hello
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> 1725263380 866127 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Animosian14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137753&oldid=75706 5* 03Star651 5* (+340) 10kinda sorta got implemented but not exactly
< 1725264630 509323 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: how would that be layed out? the most common modifiers 10, 11, 12 under your left fingers, 10-11, 10-12, 11-12 in a row above your left fingers; the less common 8, 9, 8-9 modifiers under your left pinky; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 keys under your right fingers and the row above them; enter key somewhere reachable with your right hand; space under your thumbs? or would it be more like eight of 1, 
< 1725264636 589745 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in the home row; two copies each of the 10, 11, 12 modifiers above and 10-11, 10-12, 11-12 modifiers below the home row so you can use whichever is reachable with the other hand than the number you're pressing?
< 1725264776 71680 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or would you just start with a layout similar to traditional keyboards with separate keys for the 26 letters, 10 digits, and a few other, but then have two copies of the modifier to get lowercase equivalents that negate the 10, 11, 12 columns, and two copies of the 8 and 9 and 8-9 modifiers?
< 1725264814 637607 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and a space and enter key, the space modifiable)
< 1725264997 946742 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would not be too many keys, but I'm not sure it counts as chorded
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> 1725265870 214927 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Gabenugget114 5*  10New user account
> 1725266198 852664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137754&oldid=137740 5* 03Gabenugget114 5* (+92) 10
> 1725266216 898459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Gabenugget11414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137755 5* 03Gabenugget114 5* (+2) 10Created page with "hi"
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< 1725270036 416837 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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> 1725273321 154851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07/English version14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137756&oldid=137636 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Command in the language */
> 1725273412 122150 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Tommyaweosme/common.js10]]": Author request: JS page that is rendering the account unable to edit
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> 1725273443 786405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137757&oldid=137741 5* 03Ais523 5* (+229) 10/* unbrick needed */ unbricked hopefully
> 1725273461 457234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07/English version14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137758&oldid=137756 5* 03None1 5* (+58) 10
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> 1725275929 125579 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137759&oldid=137717 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+466) 10
> 1725276027 485296 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope. with no quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137760&oldid=137751 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10
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> 1725276158 108569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137761&oldid=137225 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+745) 10
> 1725276390 599255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137762&oldid=137647 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+195) 10I'll fliter the message with important level.
> 1725276410 913436 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137763&oldid=137762 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+5) 10
> 1725276451 987826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137764&oldid=137757 5* 03None1 5* (+216) 10/* Delete blank pages */
> 1725276595 175843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137765 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+19) 10Redirected page to [[Nope.]]
> 1725276608 181916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137766&oldid=137764 5* 03None1 5* (+279) 10/* the war */
> 1725276945 779753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Esoteric File Archive14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137767&oldid=82517 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10/* Known mirrors */ probably dead
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> 1725277176 297450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137768&oldid=136253 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+218) 10
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> 1725277993 482901 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137769&oldid=137763 5* 03Ais523 5* (-200) 10undo  sorting a user talk page is generally useless, but if a user wants to do it, it should be up to them whether and how to do it, not up to visitors to the page  edits by other users to user talk pages should primarily be for the purpose of sending messages to t
> 1725278338 305168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02I love circuit boards10]] to [[How dare you fuck the brain]]
> 1725278504 708697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137772 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1024) 10Created page with "MHPP: I think we're going to go crazy with ORK  NON1: Yes, but we can make it crazier  PSTF: This is my product  {{PSTF's Version|None1|[[Translated ORK/None1 again2]]}}  1. Take the semi-product 
 Cable texture. Nothing not nothing. Nothing
> 1725278567 356570 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137773&oldid=137770 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10
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> 1725280641 666547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137776&oldid=137775 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+167) 10/* test topic */
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> 1725282711 393438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137777&oldid=137766 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+181) 10/* unbrick needed */
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> 1725283407 59741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Unimplemented14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137779&oldid=137679 5* 03None1 5* (+252) 10
> 1725284272 377566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137780&oldid=132328 5* 03None1 5* (+120) 10/* Related languages */
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> 1725285177 91465 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137781&oldid=137694 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
> 1725285198 992990 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turing (Joshop)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137782&oldid=108909 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Page was blanked by the creator
> 1725285243 568014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Atomless set computation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137783&oldid=108747 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/108747|108747]] by [[Special:Contributions/Squidmanescape|Squidmanescape]] ([[User talk:Squidmanescape|talk]])
> 1725285280 557569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137784&oldid=108760 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285298 118827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gino14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137785&oldid=109130 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285314 776562 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfucker++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137786&oldid=108894 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285331 817019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfucker++/SBFR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137787&oldid=108895 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285561 587341 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chagz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137788&oldid=124079 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-16) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725285591 211426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Miau14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137789&oldid=110915 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+2) 10Redirectify
> 1725285639 42134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137790&oldid=137781 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+98) 10
> 1725285659 931838 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BoredKat14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137791&oldid=108880 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-20) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725285689 375379 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DimensionDoors14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137792&oldid=84021 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-22) 10Probably accidentally created
> 1725285726 872520 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cpy/Converter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137793&oldid=109114 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-22) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285750 638250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gino/Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137794&oldid=109129 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-22) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285774 781097 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137795&oldid=130860 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-22) 10Page was blanked by the author
> 1725285893 281132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sequence14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137796&oldid=109374 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-15) 10Replace with template, author may choose to add page in the future
> 1725285982 568223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sandbox/tr14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137797 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+106) 10Created page with "Is this supposed to exist? --~~~~"
> 1725286032 586204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Marmite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137798&oldid=112492 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-27) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286151 218505 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lim9514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137799&oldid=99617 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-7) 10Probably accidentally created
> 1725286211 189351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Exclamation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137800&oldid=122306 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286220 407081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07New14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137801&oldid=122307 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-8) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286289 234853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StupidStackLanguage/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137802&oldid=79822 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-14) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286325 543058 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07REG.TYPE = STR TRUE turing completeness14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137803&oldid=131824 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-28) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286349 543674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C-trice14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137804&oldid=108903 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-31) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286365 280189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FunctionsFTW/FizzBizz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137805&oldid=93699 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-31) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286377 776460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Alexa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137806&oldid=109845 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-31) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286388 587451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Robotic Smiley Face14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137807&oldid=109961 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+1) 10Redirected page to [[Robotic smiley face]]
> 1725286409 399447 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137808&oldid=91005 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-34) 10Probably accidentally created
> 1725286475 209280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137809 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+114) 10Created page with "Is this supposed to be a redirect? --~~~~"
> 1725286500 194887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quoi?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137810&oldid=112869 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-36) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286506 985213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quoi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137811&oldid=112868 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-36) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286519 585124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Business Offers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137812&oldid=108901 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-41) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286604 188956 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LambdaStack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137813&oldid=101633 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-50) 10Can probably be safely deleted
> 1725286749 857586 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Disk Drive14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137814&oldid=106434 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-62) 10Redirected page to [[]]
> 1725286806 855415 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137815 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+413) 10Created page with "'''BuzzFish''' is a esolang by [[User:Yayimhere]] to demonstrate the problem with [[Looping counter]]s. == the syntax == BuzzFish has 3 commands:  *: print * and a newline  |''x''}: loops x forever   |''x''}=: move the string |x}= to after the = == the problem == the 
> 1725286846 521270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pinecone14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137816&oldid=92298 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+23) 10Hopefully someone remembers what this esolang does
< 1725286848 215813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true right?:
< 1725286848 716471 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/BuzzFish
> 1725286887 710331 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sleep14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137817 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+97) 10Created page with "Is this esoteric? --~~~~"
> 1725286926 896671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chaos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137818&oldid=109100 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-14) 10
> 1725286964 464492 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OCDMess14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137819&oldid=110035 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-89) 10Can probably be safely deleted
< 1725287127 80055 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:4719:c0b3:8059:79bb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1725287144 606980 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:4719:c0b3:8059:79bb JOIN #esolangs * :realname
> 1725287269 408120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137820&oldid=137778 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+250) 10
> 1725287272 568711 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137821&oldid=137337 5* 03None1 5* (+315) 10
> 1725287371 621526 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137822&oldid=124504 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10
> 1725287429 857196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Chagz10]]": apparent test page, has never had useful content
> 1725287519 818509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BoredKat14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137823&oldid=137791 5* 03Ais523 5* (+25) 10manual revert back to being a redirect  it is possible there are still links to the old name of the language, and a redirect is more useful than a missing page
> 1725287640 879308 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Sandbox/tr10]]": apparent (very old) attempt to test a template  but it doesn't make sense to keep tests around indefinitely, and normally userspace is a better place for that sort of test
> 1725287664 98594 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Talk:Sandbox/tr10]]": delete the talk page, too
< 1725287690 429103 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: can that even do a looping counter? you at least need * and the newline to be separate commands
< 1725287706 974518 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait yea
> 1725287773 963373 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137824&oldid=137815 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+40) 10
> 1725287804 795505 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User talk:Unname4798/vector.css10]]": Author request
> 1725287823 646473 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137825&oldid=137824 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+69) 10
> 1725287823 937816 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Unname4798/common.js10]]": Author request
< 1725287831 55848 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :done
> 1725287845 985547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Unname4798/vector.css10]]": Author request
> 1725287862 935774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Unname4798/vector.js10]]": Author request
> 1725287891 986196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137826&oldid=137820 5* 03Ais523 5* (+146) 10/* Unrated */ deleted
> 1725288049 540749 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10moved [[02LambdaStack10]] to [[User:Squidmanescape]]: revert accidental move of a userpage to mainspace  temporarily deleting the replacement userpage to do the history merge, I will undelete it once the history merge is finished
> 1725288049 561044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Squidmanescape10]]": Deleted to make way for move from "[[LambdaStack]]"
> 1725288080 855954 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 restore10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10undeleted "[[02User:Squidmanescape10]]": history merge
< 1725288081 721925 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: now it works right?
> 1725288111 738350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Squidmanescape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137828&oldid=137827 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2202) 10select the correct revision to be the current revision, after the history merge
> 1725288159 122938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Business Offers10]]": apparent test page, has never had useful content
> 1725288222 35542 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quoi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137829&oldid=137811 5* 03Ais523 5* (+19) 10manual revert back to being a redirect  it is possible there are still links to the old name of the language, and a redirect is more useful than a missing page
> 1725288399 464373 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PkmnQ14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137830 5* 03Ais523 5* (+814) 10thanks for finding abandoned pages
> 1725288478 855965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Esolang110]]": accidentally created page, all content is also included at [[User:Esolang1]] which is the correct name for the page
> 1725288509 862863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Alexa10]]": abandoned page, has never had useful content
> 1725288541 282701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02FunctionsFTW/FizzBizz10]]": redirect left behind after a typo was corrected in the page title
> 1725288692 956857 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02REG.TYPE = STR TRUE turing completeness10]]": Author request: early draft of a TCness proof that's now superseded by (and redundant to) the proof on the main article, and the author requested deletion
> 1725288759 761552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02StupidStackLanguage:Examples10]]": redirect left behind after the page title was corrected to fit the naming convention
> 1725288866 677263 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Lim9510]]": apparent test page, has never had useful content
< 1725288888 186584 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lots of deletions today
> 1725288907 490735 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Marmite10]]": abandoned page, has never had useful content
< 1725288952 891812 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: someone went through blanking all the pages they thought should be deleted
< 1725288963 32841 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they weren't right on all of them, but got quite a lot right, so I went around deleting it properly
< 1725288969 688291 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh kk
< 1725288973 885337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait also
< 1725288994 825902 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shouldn't the creator be able to delete their pages?
< 1725289008 965031 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it's soon after creation, typically yes
< 1725289012 155554 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you and others dont need to delete it when they blank it
< 1725289016 695069 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it's older it gets more complicated, because pages aren't owned by people
< 1725289027 549145 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725289033 548932 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or like
< 1725289045 315113 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if its something like bf you shouldnt be able to do that
< 1725289045 802561 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if, say, the only description of an esolang is on the wiki but the creator doesn't feel like maintaining it, sometimes they try to delete the page, but then the description would be lost
< 1725289060 184918 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725289082 42650 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so those are controversial, and normally need more than one opinion to delete
< 1725289097 533586 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also true
< 1725289101 737938 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I generally leave the page in whatever state it's in, because that's easiest for me to do
< 1725289113 400055 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms JOIN #esolangs bookworms :bookworms
< 1725289116 651602 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :makes sense
< 1725289155 115963 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for BuzzFish, you might as well, e.g., just add a looping counter to HQ9+, it still would be less powerful than a linear-bounded automaton in almost all respects, but it would be able to implement one program the linear-bounded automaton couldn't
< 1725289173 124237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725289179 15557 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's not *strictly* less powerful
< 1725289191 723323 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also tru
< 1725289194 395290 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*true
> 1725289211 45608 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137831&oldid=137715 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+15) 10
< 1725289220 105516 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's an HQ9+ variant https://esolangs.org/wiki/CHIQRSX9%2B with a command defined as "makes the language Turing-complete" – that's the definition, it doesn't say how
> 1725289226 682695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137832&oldid=137825 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+16) 10
< 1725289260 682729 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there's some debate about what that does to the computational class
< 1725289269 509155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it could be a run the stack as the memory(idk if dis exists) of a universal tag system
< 1725289283 275407 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for example
< 1725289307 554818 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, 18 deletions is a lot (although it's actually only 16 because 2 of them were a history merge, which requires temporarily deleting pages but they get restored afterward)
< 1725289471 970543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
> 1725289522 360944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02DimensionDoors10]]": accidentally created page, duplicate of [[User:DimensionDoors]] which is the correct name for it
> 1725289522 376360 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Talk:DimensionDoors10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: accidentally created page, duplicate of [[User:DimensionDoors]] which is the correct name for it
> 1725289592 42217 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137833&oldid=137795 5* 03Ais523 5* (+20) 10manual revert back to being a redirect  it is possible there are still links to the old name of the language, and a redirect is more useful than a missing page
> 1725289655 373739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Sequence10]]": No content; content was: "{{Stub}}", has never had content other than the stub template or an equivalent
< 1725289685 8420 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut the hell
< 1725289730 313463 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it doesn't make any sense to make a page that's marked as a stub but nothing else, but apparently people do it sometimes
< 1725289747 724463 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725289751 478123 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its just weird
< 1725289756 281427 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1725289760 999213 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :personally
< 1725289836 145240 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at Wikipedia there are short letter+number codes for all the common ways people make pages that are either entirely useless or rulebreaking and can be deleted immediately, containing no useful content at all is A3
< 1725289853 639862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1725289877 249628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats pre''y smart
< 1725289881 486222 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's mostly to stop people deleting pages unilaterally when there's supposed to be discussion first, if you don't know an appropriate code you can't delete the page (some admins get a bit trigger-happy with the deletes)
< 1725289895 77781 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also gentoo boot menu is TC... for some reason
< 1725289906 769623 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf
< 1725290019 317625 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I once wrote a config file format by starting with it being TC and then placing restrictions on it until it wasn't, which is the other way round from how most people design config file formats
< 1725290034 128002 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe Gentoo's boot menu did it the other way round from me
< 1725290048 411449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do you want it to not be TC?
< 1725290064 285703 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because then it isn't really a config file, it's just a program
< 1725290075 19582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh...lol
< 1725290101 163422 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in particular I was working on a project where people doing similar projects were trying to put too much logic into the config files rather than putting it into the program being configured, where it should be
< 1725290106 66816 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I wanted it to be sub-TC intentionally
< 1725290151 468240 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1725290298 672498 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1725290307 81826 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like to see a ocnfig creating esolang
< 1725290309 637773 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*config
< 1725290317 374173 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does that exist?
< 1725290364 675932 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not intentionally designed as one, I think
< 1725290377 854237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725290380 846715 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but are there any
< 1725290388 970415 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are almost certainly config file formats that turned into accidental esolangs
< 1725290400 462436 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725290422 623571 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then maybe some random config format is the first esolang?
< 1725290496 908246 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe, although early config file formats were very simple
< 1725290510 29146 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1725290809 925025 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1725290825 561013 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how the hell did conway get into esolangs??(fractan))
< 1725290966 958929 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so Conway seems to have been interested in showing that certain mathematical problems are hard to solve
< 1725290977 280456 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725290991 664549 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there are very few ways we know of to prove that solving a problem is hard or impossible
< 1725291014 781187 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most problems that we know to be unsolvable, we know it because we can reduce them to the halting problem
< 1725291030 217825 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :xD why is that so funny to me
< 1725291037 184641 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Conway was trying to show that the Collatz problem was difficult, and did so by showing that generalized Collatz problems were Turing-complete
< 1725291049 890999 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Fractran was an esolang invented for the TCness proof
< 1725291058 186721 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725291065 448271 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea that reminded me of something
< 1725291087 889240 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the esolang comunity(and other mathemtical comunities)
< 1725291103 892391 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is that after a person has made a lot of esolangs
< 1725291122 575055 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they begin using it in their proofs
< 1725291130 459610 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kinda like some of your esolangs
< 1725291135 89118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk why it happens
< 1725291187 616227 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :many of my esolangs were created for proofs, and often they turn out to be useful in more than one proof
< 1725291215 268601 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725291219 791914 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, "easy to implement esolangs that are TC and are useful for proving things" is one of the main sorts of esolang that I actively look for, it's where a lot of my esolanging effort goes
< 1725291224 597718 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it isn't surprising that I found quite a few of them
< 1725291238 575323 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725291247 523344 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1725291248 807562 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1725291251 173558 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1725291252 430021 :jix!~jix@user/jix QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1725291299 290513 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can sometimes put a huge amount of effort into taking an easy-to-implement TC language (like Cyclic Tag) and trying to make a derivative that's marginally easier to implement, and still TC, but the effort is that often it's a lot harder to prove TCness (like with Acyclic Tag, Grill Tag or Echo Tag, which are cyclic tag with added restrictions that make it easier to implement in some languages)
< 1725291337 452641 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms JOIN #esolangs bookworms :bookworms
< 1725291337 453019 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
< 1725291337 458049 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin
< 1725291337 458090 :jix!~jix@user/jix JOIN #esolangs jix :Jannis Harder
< 1725291400 983680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1725291493 37954 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Waterfall Model and Spiral Rise seem to be my best discoveries in terms of being TC yet easy to implement in esolangs and other low-powered languages
< 1725291496 503240 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523: do you think it would be possible to construct a computational model(or comp class) that matches not's power
< 1725291530 637194 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW "i would like to see a ocnfig creating esolang" => I think there was one of those. IIRC it wasn't just turing-complete but had full access to C-level userspace, and used a syntax where commands were made of an opcode byte plus usually two register names, and I think the registers were named of the 52 ascii letters and maybe more but
< 1725291531 137464 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :partitioned to like 6 groups with fixed type traditional fortran style
< 1725291540 219704 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm probably misremembering most of this
< 1725291566 595595 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey, here it is => https://esolangs.org/wiki/Scrip7
< 1725291568 262017 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725291584 862391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one thing I noticed is that Not is almost a subset of Underload: it has (1) * : S (¶)S (in Underload syntax), plus an infinite loop which is expressible in Underload but isn't a simple command
< 1725291588 904430 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just had to search https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?search=configuration+floating&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go
< 1725291602 457298 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725291665 306611 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"the first version of the idea had seven registers in all 8 forms, and the author forgot that the alphabet has 26 letters, not 28"
< 1725291688 919052 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :xD
< 1725291696 781563 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :x]
< 1725291717 480824 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I think Not's computational class can be described like this: you have a counter that grows by a fixed amount at every iteration, and can output fixed strings of 1 and can also output the counter, but can't do anything else
< 1725291736 386236 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725291743 880919 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats not tc for sure
< 1725291744 372810 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: that makes me think that the esolang should just have added two more letters, œ and æ perhaps
< 1725291754 270266 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725291760 961686 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you mean æ and ø
< 1725291775 975436 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :those are less symmetrical but easier to type
< 1725291793 688930 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725291804 231277 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mistype stuff with these so often loæ
< 1725291806 169644 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*lol
< 1725291867 15242 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: in the current form one of the code pointer (as in Script7 code, not C code) typed variables, named G, is the instruction pointer, the so the nice symmetry of 7 general purpose registers in each type would be broken again
< 1725291906 794014 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :œ and æ are the same???? right???
< 1725291912 109548 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also Script7 basically just *removed* the letters g h G H
< 1725291916 874970 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, one is a mix of an o and an e, the other is a mix of an a and an e
< 1725291934 161188 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they look so simileair
< 1725291947 749327 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :æ used to be used in some older English words, but nowadays is normally typed as "ae" or just "e"; œ is used in French
< 1725291962 482645 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in danish
< 1725291968 35692 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and norwegain
< 1725291973 802905 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and maybe swedish(idk)
< 1725291983 537146 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, swedish does not have æ
< 1725291999 275474 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kk
< 1725292009 388433 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :icelandic uses æ though
< 1725292018 915635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725292023 987725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz denmark has it
< 1725292036 711213 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and we just f'ing do that to people ig
< 1725292100 402969 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :juts like denmark used to have norway
< 1725292245 663287 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
> 1725292638 934890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137834&oldid=137790 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+82) 10
< 1725292659 348983 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^^ progress has been made on the comp class
> 1725292798 798198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137835&oldid=137834 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+68) 10
< 1725293051 187862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would you expect dis esolangs comp class to be?
< 1725293144 304446 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure – my guess is that it's TC but it isn't obvious and I don't have a proof
< 1725293153 908403 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725293155 547157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :same here
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> 1725293340 999591 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Instructistuctisurcticitstucrit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137836 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+774) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}instructistuctisurcticitstucrit is a language where you have to code in one program to code in another etc. to finally get to [[brainfuck]]. == how it works == code a [[befunge program]]  read the stack:  ...987654321  where 1 is
> 1725293355 234919 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Instructistuctisurcticitstucrit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137837&oldid=137836 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10
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< 1725294177 290270 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder
< 1725294182 263649 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tho
< 1725294185 845478 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what it could be
< 1725294190 681462 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmm
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< 1725294856 896937 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey also ais523 can you understand rectangle now?
< 1725294958 530837 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I understand it a bit better
< 1725294969 913460 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay
< 1725294975 117403 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::D
< 1725294982 680481 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't really thought about how to program in it, though
< 1725294991 480901 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725294995 223678 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1725295025 599911 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a question about Is It Art?. would it be possible to construct a program that always accepts input
< 1725295071 14664 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think so, one simple way is to have all the pieces rectangular and all having letters that represent input on them
< 1725295088 323908 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it isn't I/O complete because if input X maps to output Y, then input XX maps to output YY
< 1725295106 541715 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, you could just dedicated some symbol to "end of input" to work around that
< 1725295125 975399 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* dedicate
< 1725295126 954932 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1725295150 38664 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :could we maybe tro to create that program??
< 1725295247 234659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or...
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< 1725295671 829294 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :offtopia/offtopian
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> 1725295990 442509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/befunge scripts14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137838 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+346) 10Created page with "unincluding the [[user:tommyaweosmalt|one i made on my alt]]:  == hello world! ==                  v   v"hello world!"<  @,,,,,,<   >,,,,,^ == program that ends itself with no @ in sight ==  88*60p  == fizzbuzz (looks like cherries) ==    &
< 1725296245 81659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just got a f'ing stupid idea
< 1725296258 340093 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for a esolang
< 1725296470 818307 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get feedback?
< 1725296540 766064 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: My intention was to use a small keyboard not much bigger than a telephone keypad, although I am not sure which orientation will be best. (I also did not think lowercase will be needed for the use of this kind of keyboard, and that it is not intended for when you have a full keyboard available but for when you use a small keyboad without too many keys.)
< 1725296583 639787 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: sure
< 1725296592 748773 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1725296595 492831 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the idea was
< 1725296636 694748 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that whats the program does is it modifies itself
< 1725296642 220331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and not like emmental
< 1725296659 539110 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like it modifies the WAY its compiler works
< 1725296698 51026 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a lot of self-modifying languages on the wiki already, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Self-modifying – you could look at some of those for inspiration or to see if your idea's already been done
< 1725296711 712048 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it just fro goes into the compiler and just modifies the code
< 1725296721 559117 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not thta kind of self modifying
< 1725296728 460097 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow, 319, I don't have all of those memorised (yet, or probably ever)
< 1725296746 738225 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that there are probably some that replace the interpreter already
< 1725296753 881820 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725296757 257979 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :editing it rather than replacing it is a bit rarer, though
< 1725296768 850543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i dont mean something like: make dis command do dis code
< 1725296773 495619 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like in emmental
< 1725296786 550395 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mean that it actually modifies the code that inteprets the program
< 1725296823 37990 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the problem with that is, if you are just editing the interpreter rather than just outright replacing it, you would need to specify what language the interpreter is written in, to be able to edit it
< 1725296834 611201 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725296846 504745 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe you could do *two layer* interpretation
< 1725296866 47677 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, there is the potential problem that the program might edit the interpreter to just do everything on its own without even looking at the program
< 1725296880 314613 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725296883 804860 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you'd effectively be programming in the outer language rather than in the esolang
< 1725296891 888215 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725296897 518547 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it coul prop be made better
< 1725296962 10489 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if like the memory was the intepreter
< 1725296971 223511 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725297009 448596 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe what you want is an esoteric programming style in an existing language
< 1725297026 489871 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?wut?
< 1725297026 501942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unknown command, try @list
< 1725297033 914386 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that sentence made no sense to me
< 1725297047 853177 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, imagine a Python library that just alters bytes in memory directly, and only the bytes that correspond to the Python interpreter's memory image
< 1725297065 466473 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and all the language can do is "set byte X to value Y"
< 1725297072 427110 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725297081 336761 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where dis idea comes from is from 90
< 1725297084 365708 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think it might be uninteresting because people would just write a small machine code program that did all the work itself
< 1725297100 162306 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :90 works around the problem by not letting you add code, you can only delete it
< 1725297113 442992 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be cool
< 1725297116 298386 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WAIT IDEA
< 1725297117 848401 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if
< 1725297122 469849 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the esolang is its own CPU
< 1725297132 863417 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then the bytes wont have the prblem of the computer
< 1725297143 161946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then what is running the program?
< 1725297144 54930 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it woudlnt have the problem 90
< 1725297164 580957 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: and itepret which in intepreting the cpu which is interpeting the esolang
< 1725297204 865706 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so does the esolang change the CPU?
< 1725297213 934881 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725297218 598980 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik im insane
< 1725297224 179379 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or more precisly
< 1725297230 642310 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it modifies the cpus compiler for it
< 1725297236 262756 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow dis is confusing
< 1725297266 881999 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I have used the tools that are used to compile CPUs (rather than compiling software) – placing all the transistors and the like is very hard by hand, so computers are used to do it
> 1725297268 226614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Instructistuctisurcticitstucrit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137839&oldid=137837 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+143) 10Categories
< 1725297279 349631 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they're generally closed-source and awkward to use, with bad interfaces
< 1725297295 724640 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725297298 323982 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
> 1725297301 936581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137840&oldid=137832 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10Category
< 1725297314 997251 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc about how computationally possible it is
< 1725297322 695005 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like if its hard to compile or whatever
< 1725297325 192741 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc:)
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> 1725298193 925235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFizz14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137844&oldid=137718 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+22) 10Category
< 1725298300 683456 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I guess the obvious LBA task that BuzzFizz cannot accomplish without tweaking the input is reading a sequence of numbers in {1,2} and output them in reverse.
< 1725298391 47038 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The standard organization can be made from some common conventions (e.g. RFC 2119) as well as uncommon conventions. Furthermore, they should be made 100% public domain They should be made in a way that can use a simple protocol and simple file (e.g. plain ASCII files) since otherwise it is difficult to access the file that you cannot know without reading the specification first.
> 1725298421 704904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BuzzFish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137845&oldid=137840 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+17) 10
< 1725298469 509594 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are several of "small web protocols" (I made a document which a list of them and some brief descriptions). If you need virtual hosting, then Nightfall Express won't do, and Gopher without TLS also won't do. Gopher with TLS has a problem due to how the gopher menu is made, but you could use a DNS record to specify that TLS is required if you do not have version 6 internet.
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< 1725298571 193786 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it possibly can if it takes them as digits of a single number? although that program seems like a pain to write
< 1725298571 630727 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it a good idea tho?
< 1725298596 663547 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it would take too much effort to do well, and wouldn't really want to see it done badly
< 1725298617 673570 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :awwwww
< 1725298625 9450 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1725298688 735425 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if they had considered using DNS records to avoid that problem of using gopher with TLS.
< 1725298823 627119 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Yeah that'll work... encode your input using only non-zero digits in a suitable base; do the same for the output (you can set aside a dedicated counter for accumulating the output). Also, yes, painful.
< 1725298840 986645 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: for making the cpu i could just uselike idk assembly
< 1725298845 243080 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*use like
< 1725298938 209462 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The DNS record can also specify that TLS is available but is not required even with version 4 internet, in case you do not need virtual hosting.)
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< 1725300885 39854 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I have seen gopher servers that require version 6 internet (I think it is the gopher server for INTERCAL), and I don't know if this might be why.)
< 1725300889 783169 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Do you know?)
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< 1725302084 194489 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The server may not have an IPv4 address. They often cost extra these days.
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< 1725302301 414672 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :They did have a HTTP server with a version 4 address though.
< 1725302816 238156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It could be the lack of name-based virtual hosting (HTTP has a Host: header after version 1.1 I think?; Gopher doesn't have anything like that). Or there could be a 
< 1725302827 838409 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Err... Or there could be no technical reason at all.
< 1725303137 117616 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, maybe there is no reason and they just did it, although lack of virtual hosting is also what I had mentioned; however, virtual hosting will be possible with TLS.
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< 1725303631 592827 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :But with version 6 internet, I would expect that they will have enough addresses that name-based virtual hosting will not be needed, I think.
< 1725303742 447296 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, protocols with virtual hosting can also be set up with servers with version 4 internet that can be forwarded to the appropriate version 6 addresses. In some cases TLS will be required for doing this but sometimes it can be done without TLS (although gopher isn't one of them).
< 1725303757 192111 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think two things you'll want to decide about the keyboard is (1) the typical largest set of fingers that users are expected to type on it, eg. on a qwerty keyboard you can use all fingers on both hands; on typical small mobile phone keypads you use just one finger; on some small keypads you'd use two thumbs; some calculators you can use with either one thumb when handheld, or one finger each 
< 1725303763 221593 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from one hand if you put the calculator down onto a desk; 
< 1725303961 52737 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(2) and how it processes the keydown and keyup events: for a normal keyboard you usually only care about keydown of non-modifier keys, and the up or down status of modifiers at the moment when the non-modifier is pressed, you ignore keyups of non-modifier keys and ignore the up/down status of modifiers at all other times; a mobile phone keypad usually only cares about keydowns and only when no other key 
< 1725303967 59355 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is pressed, you then have to release all keys simultaneously before you can press a new key, this is a good way to ignore the effects of most accidental fat fingerings; while I think a stegano keyboard allows you to press the keys in a chord in any order, and goes to the next syllable when you release all the normal keys
< 1725303988 929760 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course (2) can be decided in software in any case.
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< 1725304588 979325 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, that is valid to consider. For (2), I did think to do that all keys must be released before it is worked and another keys can be entered, but I did not consider (1).
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< 1725319866 511160 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms PART #esolangs :Need to rub my bum along the carpet...
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< 1725324130 45950 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:4719:c0b3:8059:79bb QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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< 1725333315 269304 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can make up a way for name-based forwarding of connections, which may be helpful in several cases, e.g. forwarding from a version 4 to several version 6, sharing on a single computer with the same address where multiple servers may be running, forwarding to a computer that is not directly connected to the internet, forwarding through a reverse connection in case they cannot listen directly, etc. 
< 1725333366 787579 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, as far as I have found, SSH does not have virtual hosting. Do you know why they did not add that, even though TLS does have virtual hosting?
< 1725333583 921192 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or is that wrong?)
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< 1725335852 922186 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It can be done directly by reading the client's request, before the server sends to the client, with:  TLS, HTTP, Spartan, Scorpion (unencrypted).   For some protocols it would require handling some of the functions in between, which means that it is not suitable for all uses, but might sometimes work for some uses, such as:  SMTP, NNTP, IRC.
< 1725336390 646559 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you like "Movie decimal system" which can be like a Dewey decimal systems, but with TV shows and movies
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< 1725339215 685395 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I gather that SSH supports key dispatch at the protocol level, although I don't know how often it's implemented. It doesn't need vhosts; it has vkeys.
< 1725339282 704424 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Key dispatch can be hacked with e.g. OpenSSH on Linux by creating users whose login shells execute a fixed action, and then doing per-user key dispatch. Don't laugh -- this is how git-push works with forges!)
< 1725339878 314876 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
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< 1725340597 600969 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, but can it work if you do not already have a key (e.g. if it is a public service that does not require a password or a key to log in)?
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< 1725349039 239422 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: ssh has *client-side* virtual hosting: you can easily configure it to use fake hostnames, set any options including the actual hostname to connect to based on the hostname. I've done that many years ago, though I'm not using it right now. This is convenient because then you can use those hostnames in programs that use ssh as a lower-level program to access remote hosts, such as rsync or svn. 
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> 1725363331 647166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137893 5* 03None1 5* (+3698) 10Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1|f=an esolang which uses English abbrevations for tokens}} ==Syntax== In the Syntax column, \n represents line feeds.  Tokens are case insensitive. {| class="wikitable" ! Token !! Meaning in English (If you wonder) !! Syntax !! What it does |- | lo
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> 1725363762 574706 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137894&oldid=137893 5* 03None1 5* (-1) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1725365119 1068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137895&oldid=137878 5* 03None1 5* (-58) 10/* P */
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> 1725365168 134718 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137896&oldid=137886 5* 03None1 5* (+77) 10/* General languages */
> 1725365282 661784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137897&oldid=137887 5* 03None1 5* (+64) 10/* My Esolangs */
> 1725365429 108921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137898&oldid=137894 5* 03None1 5* (+8) 10/* Syntax */
> 1725365492 286050 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137899&oldid=137898 5* 03None1 5* (+42) 10/* Fibonacci (recursion) */
> 1725365527 688553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137900&oldid=137899 5* 03None1 5* (+34) 10/* Syntax */
> 1725365561 814491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137901&oldid=137900 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Syntax */
> 1725365578 160979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137902&oldid=137901 5* 03None1 5* (-2) 10/* Syntax */
> 1725365610 429700 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137903&oldid=137902 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Fibonacci (recursion) */
> 1725365623 854023 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137904&oldid=137903 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10/* Fibonacci (recursion) */
> 1725365642 989140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137905&oldid=137904 5* 03None1 5* (+7) 10/* Fibonacci (recursion) */
> 1725365687 135754 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137906&oldid=137905 5* 03None1 5* (+46) 10/* Truth Machine */
> 1725365722 420824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137907&oldid=137906 5* 03None1 5* (-2) 10/* Truth Machine */
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> 1725367988 209782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Uyjhmn--/Brainfuck interpreter10]] to [[Opal]]
> 1725368079 108441 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Opal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137910&oldid=137908 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10
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> 1725368204 428476 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137911&oldid=137907 5* 03None1 5* (+57) 10/* Examples */
> 1725368236 789934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137912&oldid=137911 5* 03None1 5* (-9) 10/* Standard library */
> 1725368360 793539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137913&oldid=137912 5* 03None1 5* (+74) 10/* Examples */
> 1725368400 810177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A+B Problem14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137914&oldid=135625 5* 03None1 5* (+89) 10/* Powershell */
> 1725368741 960594 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137915&oldid=137913 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Fibonacci (recursion) */
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> 1725369145 964892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137916&oldid=137915 5* 03None1 5* (-10) 10
> 1725369286 921997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PostScriptum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137917&oldid=137916 5* 03None1 5* (+363) 10
> 1725369663 27809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Palindrome14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137918&oldid=47145 5* 03None1 5* (+126) 10/* External resources */
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> 1725372857 540488 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137919 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+752) 10Created page with "{{Stub}}  WhatLang is a stack-based programming language created by [[User:YufangTSTSU]] (Yufang). Written in TypeScript, its first interpreter is a private (not published on ''npm'') plugin for [https://koishi.chat Koishi], a bot framework for QQ and other instant me
> 1725372870 92839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137920&oldid=137895 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+15) 10/* W */
> 1725372952 792088 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137921&oldid=137919 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+61) 10
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< 1725375989 122828 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :somebody made a frickin Not intepret. wow
< 1725377402 198981 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot's gone missing again. :/
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< 1725377447 251301 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: You're such a flaky bot.
< 1725377447 959299 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: no time for it. actually good hacker practice imho. not about that.
< 1725377500 603054 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wuts goin on?
< 1725377869 407192 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's just one of those bots.)
< 1725377886 650243 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have bots????
< 1725377936 363111 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal#.23Esoteric > The channel is visited by a large number of bots (some of which come and go), including fungot, HackEso, EgoBot, lambdabot, thutubot, metasepia, idris-bot, myndzi, jconn, j-bot, bfbot, velik, and esolangs (irc).
< 1725377936 718810 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: filled in my fnord are working on scheme :( mind you that pakistan is 140 million fnord country with fnord of
< 1725377949 65859 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Many of them have departed though.
< 1725377966 367596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok
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< 1725378749 746787 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got a ping buyt idk wut it was.anybody who mentioned me?
< 1725378752 133539 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*but
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< 1725381507 36138 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org NICK :Guest4194
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> 1725382873 979381 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137922&oldid=137492 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+81) 10
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< 1725386035 471299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think?:
< 1725386035 972438 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Byte
< 1725386632 724893 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's art.
< 1725386633 488757 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait i wont have time
< 1725386641 720569 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx korvo
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> 1725387981 363697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03OllyBritton 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Fibonacci example.png10]]"
> 1725388612 599074 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CALC14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137924 5* 03OllyBritton 5* (+11668) 10Created page with "== Language overview == '''CALC''' is an esoteric programming language created by [[User:OllyBritton]] based on the kinds of expression which a simple scientific calculator with memory allows. It was designed to demonstrate that the Casio FX-991EX can do arbitrary com
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> 1725388736 804786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CALC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137926&oldid=137924 5* 03OllyBritton 5* (-32) 10
> 1725389008 315545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Opal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137927&oldid=137910 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+180) 10
> 1725389062 710523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Over-Objective Programming Language (Opal)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137928&oldid=107081 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+31) 10
> 1725389151 502582 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CALC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137929&oldid=137926 5* 03OllyBritton 5* (-4) 10
> 1725389685 869088 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Opal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137930&oldid=137927 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+151) 10
> 1725389698 365798 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Not14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137931&oldid=137873 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+4) 10Amended the Common Lisp implementation's orthography.
< 1725390459 496429 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :G'Nite
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> 1725394235 84333 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137932&oldid=137921 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+2655) 10
> 1725394853 293723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02LX10]] to [[Assembolge]]
> 1725394981 749317 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Assembolge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137935&oldid=137933 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-770) 10
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> 1725396935 647196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Opal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137936&oldid=137930 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+49) 10Categories
> 1725397169 859398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CALC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137937&oldid=137929 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+78) 10/* Implementations */ Categories
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< 1725397861 961352 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a TLS extension to include a ASN.1 data with an error condition?
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> 1725399324 135386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Shriansh 5*  10New user account
> 1725399386 978128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:202714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137938&oldid=137871 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-37) 10no u
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> 1725410712 170025 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Fortran14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137940 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+238) 10Created page with "help this page doesnt exist and no proof of it existing exists plsplsplspslplspls add it back ~~~~"
< 1725412036 485456 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:2518:8d2e:ed88:a3e1 QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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> 1725416009 135566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Boolshit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137941&oldid=108195 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-27) 10uncomputable so obviously unimplementable
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> 1725427189 249183 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137942&oldid=137939 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (-7) 10
> 1725429502 974091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fortran14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137943 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+106) 10Created page with "{{serious|URL=Fortran}} {{stub}}  [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:Before 1993]] [[Category:Implemented]]"
> 1725429540 568263 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:202714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137944&oldid=137938 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+60) 10
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> 1725436419 447595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 035cover 5*  10New user account
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> 1725436903 940398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137950&oldid=137856 5* 035cover 5* (+104) 10Introduced myself
> 1725437590 884987 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137951&oldid=137949 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1993) 10
> 1725438558 571581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137952&oldid=137951 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (-128) 10
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< 1725450495 548518 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey guys
> 1725450895 584967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Unimplemented14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137954&oldid=137779 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+133) 10
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> 1725451624 95834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137956&oldid=137835 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10
< 1725451765 952429 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:49a:4e2e:fc98:83d4 JOIN #esolangs * :realname
> 1725453445 685664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DueToTechnicalReasons 5*  10New user account
< 1725453502 53428 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored and i have no dieas fo a esolang
< 1725453505 983255 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :any ideas?
< 1725453515 375548 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*ideas
> 1725453577 87781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137957&oldid=137956 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
< 1725454878 472527 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :yah
< 1725454880 712037 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :steal
< 1725454883 127961 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :badly
< 1725454889 822585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut?
< 1725454967 431667 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
> 1725455043 249550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainhook14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137958 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+583) 10Created page with "'''Brainhook''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] to minimize [[Brainfuck]] == memory == memory is a tape the continues to the right forever. the tape pointer moves right every command. each cell is 6 bit and wrap(so if 0 is decremented its set to 63) == com
< 1725455058 392009 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you mean sprout?
< 1725455460 301089 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :you asked for ideas, I gave you one
< 1725455473 506763 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is the diea
< 1725455475 428486 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*idea
< 1725455478 448828 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im very confused
< 1725455817 210031 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :to steal another idea
< 1725455943 342506 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don wanna steal somebodys else's idea
< 1725455983 114039 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ideas are commons!
< 1725456008 480701 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1725456025 604376 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but even if its already made i want it to be orgiginal
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< 1725456639 278300 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also if you said somethin
< 1725456642 428451 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was lost to me
< 1725456654 516222 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so could you maybe resend sprout
> 1725456958 791587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137959&oldid=137776 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+471) 10
> 1725457421 38619 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Translated JNTM14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137960 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+510) 10Created page with "..."
> 1725457560 459923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFInfinity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137961&oldid=134105 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-289) 10
> 1725457776 860227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137962&oldid=136936 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+9) 10
> 1725457817 212124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137963&oldid=137017 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+71) 10
> 1725458576 521457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CALC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137964&oldid=137937 5* 03OllyBritton 5* (+367) 10
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> 1725458991 146967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZeroDivisionError: Division by 0/NoQuine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137965 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1109) 10Created page with "''ZeroDivisionError: Division by 0/NoQuine'' is designed by PSTF and based on [[ZeroDivisionError: Division by 0]] which is inspired by [[SyntaxError: invalid syntax]] which is inspired by [[foo : The term 'foo' is not recognized a
> 1725459010 299647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZeroDivisionError: Division by 014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137966&oldid=133832 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+47) 10
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> 1725459463 637301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137968&oldid=137769 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+251) 10I see.(For the previous operation by AIS523)
> 1725459709 530829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137969&oldid=137565 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+296) 10
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< 1725461665 235587 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can  gte feedback on it?
< 1725461908 190987 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can give the full idea
< 1725462607 967591 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if any of you want
> 1725462830 416346 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Fortran14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137970&oldid=137940 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+161) 10
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< 1725464904 305311 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: What do you want to accomplish?
< 1725464958 557174 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a esolang where you do crafting like in meincraft be deifnin g what things craft to what
< 1725465087 775183 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fun! It sounds like the main thing to build would be a book of recipes.
< 1725465106 798023 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725465113 636867 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but what if you could modify it?
< 1725465118 289398 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like stirng rewriting
< 1725465123 915308 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but as minecraft crafting
< 1725465162 993307 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1725465173 94233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im makign am md doc of the book
< 1725465179 794272 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like help:)
< 1725465982 335657 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1725465985 29144 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill send a link to the page korvo then you can check it out
< 1725465987 45109 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe
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< 1725466690 803201 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did somebody say somethin to me?
< 1725466695 527562 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i disconected
< 1725466700 39125 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and wanted to know
< 1725466985 475800 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :curent progress korvo: https://hackmd.io/@idkleftoutsidekkk/ryM0QbI3C
< 1725467669 406197 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: there were no messages while you were connected
< 1725467690 106796 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can see all the messages in the log, e.g. today's is https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-09-04.html
< 1725467703 643248 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lots of people here look at the log in order to reply to comments made while they weren't here
> 1725467832 971731 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Fortran10]]": no content, has never had useful content  don't create useless pages just to turn blue links red, it's possible that the link should be unlinked, but even when it shouldn't be, you should leave page creation to someone who has something to say
< 1725467841 242546 :fowl!~fowl@user/fowl PRIVMSG #esolangs :my new programming language will have first-class telemetry. still working out the details
> 1725467888 397002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Fortran14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137971&oldid=137970 5* 03Ais523 5* (+334) 10page was created empty, and I have deleted it
> 1725467955 284187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Category:202710]]": it doesn't make sense to create future year categories early if doing so is simply going to inspire edit wars
> 1725468022 334327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10protected "[[Category:2026 [create=sysop] (expires 16:40, 4 September 2025 (UTC))]]": protect future year categories until closer to the date, they tend to inspire useless pages and/or edit wars
> 1725468050 263900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10protected "[[Category:2027 [create=sysop] (expires 16:40, 4 September 2026 (UTC))]]": protect future year categories until closer to the date, they tend to inspire useless pages and/or edit wars
> 1725468073 402856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10protected "[[Category:2028 [create=sysop] (expires 16:41, 4 September 2027 (UTC))]]": protect future year categories until closer to the date, they tend to inspire useless pages and/or edit wars
> 1725468104 256777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10protected "[[Category:2029 [create=sysop] (expires 16:41, 4 September 2028 (UTC))]]": protect future year categories until closer to the date, they tend to inspire useless pages and/or edit wars
< 1725468129 528754 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fowl: in the sense that you can use telemetry as the argument and/or return value of a function?
> 1725468153 766051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/protect14]]4 protect10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10protected "[[Category:2030 [create=sysop] (expires 16:42, 4 September 2029 (UTC))]]": protect future year categories until closer to the date, they tend to inspire useless pages and/or edit wars
< 1725468221 515855 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's kind-of mindboggling to imagine telemetry *not* being a special case, given that it seems to be a different kind of thing that the values and types that programs normally work with
< 1725468612 363016 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I'm not saying that this is a bad idea – just that I'm interested to see how you'll accomplish it)
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< 1725469009 655124 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I'm getting a 403, sorry.
< 1725469050 183176 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I happen to be one of the Minecraft reverse engineers. I can tell you that the MC protocol supports a fairly flexible extension of crafting behaviors; it's not hard-coded.
< 1725469054 473313 :ajal!~ambylastn@host86-133-141-214.range86-133.btcentralplus.com NICK :amby
< 1725469084 479121 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The protocol lets a server tell a client to open up a modal box. There's hardcoded modals for crafting, furnaces, etc. but also freeform chest-like modals.
< 1725469144 488389 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The client and server can move objects around in the modal, and each movement (each mouse click, each drag-n-drop, etc.) sends an event from client to server. Also the server can force-change anything about the modal, like moving objects on their own.
< 1725469203 827364 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of my early experiments was a sort of combination lock. The client attempts to open a chest/door. The server sends them a mostly-empty modal containing e.g. six colored wool blocks.
< 1725469226 543593 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The client has to drag them into the right locations on the modal, upon which the server instantly closes the modal and opens the door or spawns the chest modal.
< 1725469234 656220 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(If you've played Riven...)
< 1725469264 799428 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Anyway, it sounds like you're hard at work. When you're ready to share stuff publically, let me know and I'll have a look.
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< 1725470044 311838 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kk
< 1725470054 425557 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill try to fix the 403
< 1725470104 276372 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://hackmd.io/@idkleftoutsidekkk/ryM0QbI3C
< 1725470108 829181 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :resent korvo
< 1725470115 199020 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should work now
< 1725470196 484855 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( window.GOOGLE_DRIVE_API_KEY = 'AIzaSyAHmcP5gL_64ZafuAYOvJruFAIaYgHQaY4' )
< 1725470213 720813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut the hell
< 1725470306 655753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :just looking at the source code of that blank page :-P
< 1725470323 614 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what blank page
< 1725470350 575985 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It might be less blank if I enabled Javascript. I don't know.
< 1725470363 68458 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what page????
< 1725470367 535224 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :your link
> 1725470491 456002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Fortran14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137972&oldid=137971 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+175) 10
< 1725470503 834787 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the hell
< 1725470530 770896 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can see
< 1725470532 297854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it
< 1725470555 575677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's hopefully a read-only API key. :-P
< 1725470571 894240 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf
< 1725470588 214224 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will make google doc
< 1725470589 214094 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig
< 1725470594 351990 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since nobody can see it lol
< 1725470595 275694 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't worry about it
< 1725470600 765680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725470602 872318 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why?
< 1725470642 496430 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have Javascript disabled by default. A lot of stuff doesn't work without Javascript. It makes me sad but... oh well.
< 1725470654 174254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok
< 1725470675 582229 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its just also korvok cant see it
< 1725470687 747999 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That was before?
< 1725470703 615309 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725470709 127457 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can say that it's no longer s 403.
< 1725470717 988127 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/ s / a /
< 1725470732 146490 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725470768 171510 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I use two browsers, one with JS disabled, one with JS enabled but which wipes localstorage and cookies regularly
< 1725470785 28094 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :smart
< 1725470787 663849 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::D
< 1725470803 292443 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and use the JS-disabled one for most browsing (I do enable JS on it on a case-by-case basis for websites which don't abuse it, like Wikipedia and Esolang)
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< 1725470854 88130 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then I have a third browser for testing that websites render correctly cross-browser, and a fourth browser for use in the terminal
< 1725470884 721943 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plus at least two browsers that I don't regularly use for anything (one of which is IE6, which I think I used once to test that a website would work in it)
< 1725470891 698190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats a lot of brwser
< 1725470902 458743 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok thats enough browsers i think
< 1725470907 241489 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeeeo_o
< 1725470930 533371 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :three browsers I don't regularly use for anything, I forgot I had Konqueror installed
< 1725470953 409999 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do have a lot of browsers, I think I use even more text editors than that though
< 1725470985 276629 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how
< 1725470989 775091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeee o_o
< 1725471223 727898 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :At least when it comes to the Google Drive API, I rather think API keys are entirely orthogonal to read-onlyness/read-writedness. Whether you can read or modify things depends on the relevant end-user credentials, usually through OAuth.
< 1725471262 748420 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to stupid to understand that
< 1725471266 979661 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so immma ignore it ig
< 1725471318 152928 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Looking at the feature list of the website, I'm guessing that's there to enable a "save to Drive" / "import from Drive" feature.
< 1725471361 766272 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can you recommend an x11 volume control program for my debian desktop? ideally one that I can just install to debian 11 from a native package and then keep when I upgrade to debian 12 (or 13 if I'm too lazy). I don't have any special needs, but currently I'm using qasmixer and that keeps crashing, so I'd just like something that doesn't crash so often.
< 1725471454 467737 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Before PulseAudio/PipeWire, I used to just use that TUI thing, what's it called, `alsamixer`, with a thing that opened a new terminal for it.
< 1725471484 968211 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you glue a text-mode program to a terminal emulator, it counts as an X11 program.
< 1725471502 60596 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: There's a GOOGLE_DRIVE_CLIENT_ID as well. API credentials just are something that I don't really expect to see in client side JS code. But they may be fine. It's really more of a surprise than something I'll actually worry about.
< 1725471601 822004 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for browser, I primarily use firefox, the debian-modified version on my home machine and stock firefox on my Windows work machine. I have sometimes used extra Firefox profiles for a few things: I had one that uses the library's proxy to access parts of some paywalled publishing sites, I don't have the library subscription now but I'm not nuking it because I may use the same one in the future when I 
< 1725471607 828435 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :resubscribe. 
< 1725471694 151814 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Long ago during my previous job I used to have a separate profile just to separate an in-house developped website to a separate process because it sometimes just consumed all resources and froze firefox. These days firefox has better built-in separation so that might not be necessary, though I still sometimes meet cases when the whole Firefox process hangs.
< 1725471730 899384 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The "client ID" (in that context, anyway) is an OAuth2 concept, where it indicates the "client" (i.e., a specific website), for things like the auth/consent flow, so that it can show the correct details in the "do you want to let Frobnozz access your account" dialog.
< 1725471744 291067 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or something along those lines, I find modern webdev real hard to follow.
< 1725471746 285301 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I occasionally use Chrome or (at work only) IE to test if a website is only broken on Firefox or only with my Firefox plugins or it's just broken regardless of browser.
< 1725471903 852981 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :These days I just use Chrome, because, well, you know. With separate profiles for banking stuff and normal web browsing, for what little good that probably does. And then once in a blue moon re-check a website in Firefox to see if it's only broken on Chrome, but that seems to happen a lot less often than the other way around.
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< 1725471951 198068 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: IE, not Edge?
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< 1725472004 29309 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: uh yeah, it's probably actually Edge these days. I never specifically installed IE or Edge, it only comes up when I'm trying something from a machine other than my work laptop and it doesn't yet have firefox or chrome installed
< 1725472067 552876 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's getting quite rare these days, we just have chromium installed even on production windows machines that aren't even supposed to run a browser during production
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< 1725473122 102737 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wwwww: I wonder whether this could be implemented as a Thue program or similar. The idea is that a general-purpose string-rewriter, if we feed it a special interpreter program, becomes a customized string-rewriter for your language and application.
< 1725473154 384771 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you'd feed in your special interpreter, followed by your list of crafting recipes, and finally the user-level crafting program.
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< 1725489111 510389 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you call a triangle a dodecagon, is it equilateral?
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< 1725496036 281066 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you should still continue to make up the standard organization. I also think that there can be the classification of e.g. programming languages, mathematics, character sets, file formats, electrical wiring, protocols, documents which are made as jokes, etc. I also think that a discussion can be made up, perhaps with IRC and NNTP. Furthermore, make it fully public domain.
< 1725496064 209117 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Many people in this IRC can be included, but also possibly some other people such as Knuth and Tom7.
< 1725496115 668613 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Furthermore: "The sad fact of the matter is that people play politics with standards to gain commercial advantage, and the result is that end users suffer the consequences. This is the case with character encoding for computer systems, and it is even more the case with HDTV." Therefore, these standards should be made to mitigate this things, by making different standards for character codes and televisions.
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> 1725500049 66221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Braincraft14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137989 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1203) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}braincraft is brainfuck but updates happen like minecraft. == updates == === 1.0 - barebones === the additions for 1.0 are:  + increments the cell under pointer by 1  - decrements the cell under pointer by 1  x squares the cell under pointer  [ jump
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> 1725543926 697822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Drive-In Window14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138009 5* 03None1 5* (+1619) 10Created page with "'''Translated Drive-In Window''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. It is [[Drive-In Window]] but horribly translated.  1. Program 
 Hi, welcome to Spill_The_Beans. Here is a menu.  Vodka: $50  Here are your sides.  Truth Serum: $2  May I tak
> 1725543940 882732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Windows14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138010 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1281) 10Created page with "'''Windows''' or ''''''(aka '''swodniW''') is an esolang inspierd by [['xxx' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.|dmc]], [[bash: foo: No such file or directory|hasB]], foo : The term 'foo' is not recognized as the n
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< 1725544032 171871 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaa i cant stop thinking about a consistency checking esolang. i have some ideas tho...
< 1725544049 672416 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also if i make it ill make the syntax uiua style syntax
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< 1725544135 40233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should i do it?
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> 1725546630 76343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blues++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138018&oldid=137995 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+45) 10Stub, Wikipedia links, categories
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< 1725554673 424911 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where there a log of today?
< 1725554677 751141 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait
< 1725554679 687546 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i see it
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> 1725556414 220688 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138024&oldid=138023 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+35) 10
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> 1725557530 599164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wiki/pedia/.org14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138025 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+522) 10Created page with "'''Wiki/pedia/.org'''(pronounced '''Wikipedia dot org''') is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] based on the [[Wikipedia:Getting to Philosophy|Philosophy Game]] == semantics / syntax == the program structure:  / wikipedia page name(in 19.30, 5. september 2
< 1725557550 598365 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^^what do you think of dis esolang?
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> 1725557702 299383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138027&oldid=137831 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+22) 10
> 1725557709 469207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wiki/pedia/.org14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138028&oldid=138026 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-30) 10
> 1725558297 859367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kava14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138029&oldid=137982 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1725558454 575167 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kava14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138030&oldid=138029 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10/* Commands */
> 1725558706 35031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138031&oldid=137505 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+147) 10/* Karma */
> 1725558838 713531 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kava14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138032&oldid=138030 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+44) 10/* Commands */
> 1725558899 786889 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wiki/pedia/.org14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138033&oldid=138028 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+52) 10
> 1725558976 642309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kava14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138034&oldid=138032 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Truth-machine */
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> 1725566444 162226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138045&oldid=138044 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+57) 10
> 1725566486 887681 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138046&oldid=138042 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+47) 10
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> 1725567758 543806 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138049&oldid=138048 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10
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< 1725591264 289824 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm about to add the URL https://concatenative.org/wiki/view/Cat to a page. fizzie, would you please consider adding this to the interwiki list? I figure that they are potential friends, and I know some of them are alright folks.
< 1725591326 125091 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure how much we even use the interwiki list – there are a few uses of wikipedia: but I think consensus is for the prefix to be visible
< 1725591469 533581 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the external link might be more useful even if the internal link is added to the list? it isn't obvious to me that "concatenative:Cat" (internal link) is more useful than "Cat at concatenative.org" (external link) for readers
< 1725591473 129020 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dimly remember fizzie adding something for me, likely the Lojban wiki. I just thought it'd be a neighborly thing, that's all.
< 1725591506 603162 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have no objections to it being on the list, just don't think the change would do anything
< 1725591544 195584 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also, what is that wiki's name? it has a URL but doesn't appear to have a visible name anywhere, e.g. the homepage title is "Front Page")
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< 1725591571 326033 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also, I wonder whether I should add Underload)
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< 1725591624 802613 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's called "the concatenative languages wiki". I guess I should start idling in their channel again.
< 1725591732 949878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cat(1) can also be interpreted as a programming language (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Text)
< 1725591747 572629 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that's three languages which could plausibly be called "cat"
< 1725591764 215804 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION vaguely wonders how many plausible extensions you need to add to cat(1) to make it Turing-complete

< 1725591846 703285 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did once find a denial-of-service bug in xterm where you could cat a particular sequence of bytes into the terminal and it would enter an infinite loop – does that make Text non-total? (I reported it, and it's been fixed for ages)
< 1725592178 892594 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've asked in #concatenative. Once I get a response, I'll edit that page and I suppose add see-alsos for a few overlapping langs too.
< 1725592360 891305 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I am wondering whether Jelly is concatenative (assuming you ignore the rules for disambiguating ambiguous syntax, which take the entire line into account)
< 1725592384 726299 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it makes me think that there's a continuous range between fully concatenative and fully applicative, and Jelly is on the "mostly concatenative" location
< 1725592507 799441 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the thing that makes it not fully concatenative is that if a function has two arguments, you can't split the function from its adjacent argument, but you can split the function-argument pair from everything else
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< 1725593279 33858 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The way I think of it is that a language is generalized-concatenative if it's got a syntactic monoid, and the classical definition is when the monoid has "" as unit.
< 1725593393 967258 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or " " for some of them. Or maybe "\n" for sanity. And etc. It's become looser over time, but ISTR that something Cammy-shaped wouldn't ever fly because bracketing is an unacceptable complexity.
< 1725593398 717429 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BRB groceries.
< 1725593421 92742 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Jelly does have that (if you allow for its idiosyncratic way of showing precedence) but you can't split just anywhere
< 1725593481 806711 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in particular it doesn't seem to have or simulate a stack
< 1725593508 556934 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(except for the call stack)
< 1725593969 833722 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, yeah. Most concatenative languages don't allow splitting; that's something else entirely. Like, Forth doesn't allow splitting because of the interpreter/compiler modes.
< 1725593977 978758 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :To say nothing of ." quotation "
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< 1725614376 241783 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll just enable the Interwiki extension, that'll allow any sysop to edit the list + I don't have to run raw SQL insert statements. Looks like it comes bundled in the standard distribution nowadays.
< 1725614393 593432 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Sometime later today, currently at the dentist.)
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< 1725614497 623971 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You know how people always refer to things disparagingly as "Big X", like there's Big Oil and Big Pharma and so on? I wonder if there's a group of people who believe a cabal of dentists is manipulating people, would that get called Big Tooth?
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< 1725635664 840470 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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 their legs difficulty difficulty difficulty "Room" is a joke. Sadiraki Sara Sarachio's Luvanou It's a bit confusing. Orbis Repanos Pasciu
< 1725635944 722214 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais
< 1725636002 610684 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a question to all of you. is the infinite loop a looping counter?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bijection
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< 1725636232 750161 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1725636497 198097 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I don't see how the "infinite loop" example is actually a loop – doesn't it become "{{}0}0" but with the instruction pointer at the end of the command?
< 1725636514 496756 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1725636527 653369 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need to specify that it runs whats inside
< 1725636542 880171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, that makes more sense
> 1725636546 498007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bijection14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138143&oldid=136694 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+31) 10
> 1725636550 473545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comments14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138144&oldid=138137 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+496) 10Copyediting, category
< 1725636559 937090 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so {}n appends a copy of line n to what's inside the brackets, and then runs what's inside the brackets
< 1725636572 551475 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
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< 1725636643 610444 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it would be a looping counter right?
< 1725636667 919775 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm trying to work out how to get the exact triangle shape that's required
< 1725636684 534316 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wurt
< 1725636688 430420 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*Wut
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< 1725636694 379579 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the {}0 program isn't a looping counter because it grows exponentially, not triangularly
< 1725636701 482067 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1725636717 969956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesnt it still proove it has more power than a LBA?
< 1725636754 125889 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably does, but it doesn't prove it because it doesn't prove there's a way to actually read the data that's being stored
< 1725636766 158243 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725636781 481150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if it has to read data as a rule then. it would right?
< 1725636787 811892 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in this sort of language, finding a way to read data is often harder to find a way to write it
< 1725636799 340785 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725636835 204302 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would encourage you to leave the language the same, it's interesting as it is – or maybe change "append" to "prepend", that might be necessary to make control flow possible
< 1725636846 241499 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725636858 555130 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :imagine a program like {{}0}1 \n x
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< 1725636889 714674 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my brain is proccesing that
< 1725636947 410934 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wont let me
< 1725636948 410911 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725636957 507531 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I just realised this language doesn't have any sort of goto, so the only line that actually changes is the first one (until it finishes running), meaning that any TCness has to come from just a single line
< 1725636971 746889 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725636971 816700 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which might well be possible but it reduces the chance a bit
< 1725636986 158933 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless you do concurrency
< 1725636994 53428 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or only run the first line then the second so on
< 1725636999 907487 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then reruns until it halts
< 1725637108 858019 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, an implicit loop is also possible
< 1725637116 683893 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how?
< 1725637129 880016 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I mean, what you were talking about is an implicit loop
< 1725637134 50552 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where the program starts again after reaching the end
< 1725637142 712107 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
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> 1725637525 589234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138152&oldid=137109 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+609) 10/*  */ new section
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< 1725639260 211195 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i spesified some more
< 1725639299 268731 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think "no changes happen" is even possible, is it?
< 1725639314 73256 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1725639318 240881 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuuuu
< 1725639321 810062 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless all the commands refer to blank lines, and if the program doesn't start in that state it can never reach that state
< 1725639328 434798 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what should i do to the halts
< 1725639334 985936 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how shall i halt
< 1725639338 62782 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i want to halt
< 1725639350 977430 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think, with a language like this, you should probably just resign yourself to it running indefinitely, and let people define their own halt state to prove TCness
< 1725639369 58685 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and when there is a proof that "it would be TC if behaviour X was treated as a halt", then you can add the halt to the language
< 1725639407 664008 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725639413 894347 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
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< 1725639604 306137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :changed it
< 1725639616 617649 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now do you think a looping counter is possible?
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< 1725640062 323791 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: yes, {}1 \n (print *) \n (print \n) would be a looping counter in that version of the language (apart from the first line), if it had a print statement
< 1725640119 252997 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725640122 104436 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k thx
< 1725640128 9391 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wouldnt it just work anyway
< 1725640131 93736 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like in memory
< 1725640135 853916 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1725640182 787960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or no
< 1725640186 9013 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :???
< 1725640239 734042 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725640261 811084 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but having the print statements makes it easier to describe
< 1725640283 555098 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725640292 40577 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig you would include it
< 1725640294 222836 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but just say
< 1725640302 999153 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the prints are for clarity
< 1725640489 143793 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i add it
< 1725640495 428006 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if so should i give credit?
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< 1725640827 96478 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can always define multiple variants of a language together on one page, like if you want the support for print statements optional. 
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< 1725643079 162635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now i added it
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< 1725645988 527091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i made dat horrible thing^
< 1725645989 27546 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^
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< 1725650843 273640 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nobody here?...
> 1725650883 945342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enwokenment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138169&oldid=138166 5* 03Ais523 5* (+985) 10explain why this is TC (it has the category already)
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< 1725650942 267897 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I'm not sure I'm in the right frame of mind for looking at esolangs right now
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< 1725650982 931153 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :np(ofc)
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> 1725655388 352345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138185&oldid=138184 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Infinite loop */
> 1725655467 657011 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138186&oldid=138185 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+32) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1725655518 24343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138187&oldid=138186 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10/* Looping counter */
> 1725655596 443884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138188&oldid=138187 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10/* Deadfish implementation */
> 1725655616 552357 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138189&oldid=138188 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Looping counter */
> 1725655679 328941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish/Implementations (nonalphabetic and A-L)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138190&oldid=136830 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+20) 10/* G# */
> 1725655769 830852 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish with gotos and input14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138191&oldid=137862 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1065) 10Interpreter, see also, categories
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< 1725663802 455256 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Currently in a mahjong program I have:   typedef struct { char*name; uint16_t value; } Name;   it is used with tsearch. However, this requires two allocations and some extra space for the pointer, and it might be better to instead:   typedef struct { uint16_t value; char name[0]; } Name;
< 1725663923 325475 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The search key in this program will always be the same static buffer, so it could use some otherwise unused address to denote that, or to subtract sizeof(uint16_t) from the address of that buffer and somehow force the compiler to make that work (being valid if used in this way and not null).
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> 1725667771 126708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comments14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138192&oldid=138171 5* 03None1 5* (+165) 10/* brainfuck */
> 1725667829 353346 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10moved [[02Comments10]] to [[Comment]]: Should be singular
> 1725667829 368320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10moved [[02Talk:Comments10]] to [[Talk:Comment]]: Should be singular
> 1725667894 720942 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138197&oldid=138193 5* 03None1 5* (+55) 10
> 1725667913 970186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138198&oldid=132457 5* 03None1 5* (+4) 10/* Header comment */
> 1725668247 742760 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138199&oldid=138197 5* 03None1 5* (+92) 10
> 1725668445 246073 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138200&oldid=137988 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+155) 10Link, categories
> 1725668471 997220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138201&oldid=138200 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+28) 10Category
> 1725668536 799230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138202&oldid=137477 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+117) 10See also
> 1725670600 241907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+-)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138203&oldid=122375 5* 03None1 5* (+219) 10
> 1725671176 860515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bfos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138204&oldid=113882 5* 03None1 5* (+311) 10
> 1725671275 959944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138205&oldid=138202 5* 03None1 5* (+113) 10/* See also */
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< 1725672669 456415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :What CPUs have emulation modes? x86 architecture is infamous for that, 65816 has an emulation mode for 6502 (or some variation I think)
> 1725673008 927147 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trilangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138206&oldid=112452 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (-111) 10Trilangle can interpret Qdeql
< 1725673225 76737 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The eZ80 has a "classic Z80" mode, I think. (Quite different from the native "ADL mode" in which the 16-bit register become 24-bit ones.)
< 1725673469 981042 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not sure if ARM's 32-bit execution state on AArch64 counts, maybe.
> 1725677898 601784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Velato14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138207&oldid=31126 5* 03None1 5* (+126) 10/* Music images */ new section
> 1725677904 921578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Velato14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138208&oldid=138207 5* 03None1 5* (+235) 10/* Music images */
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> 1725680195 116462 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138209&oldid=138152 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+106) 10
> 1725680362 989262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:OLoP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138210 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+105) 10Created page with ":''This page is written by the language {{{1}}}, and the version of language {{{2}}} is at [[{{{3}}}]].''"
> 1725680385 889628 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enwokenment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138211&oldid=138174 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6) 10
> 1725680397 402236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07/English version14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138212&oldid=137758 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-19) 10
> 1725680485 694103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138213&oldid=138115 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+77) 10
> 1725680739 713801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138214&oldid=138147 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+79) 10
> 1725681171 378236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Shakespeare/PSTF14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138215 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4973) 10Created page with "1. Program 
 The Infamous Hello World Program.  Romeo, a young man with a remarkable patience. Juliet, a likewise young woman of remarkable grace. Ophelia, a remarkable woman much in dispute with Hamlet. Hamlet, the flatterer of Andersen In
> 1725681253 997818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138216&oldid=138006 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+524) 10
> 1725681331 523055 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Shakespeare/PSTF14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138217&oldid=138215 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+8) 10
> 1725681542 620657 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/My Decimal Number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138218 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1091) 10Created page with "It calls "The PSTF constant" and its symbol is .  2.561765029376982639476905739572392398749348647654346788698569836928685656575656559200198249263159047584721586234075946897315867407907847846941795720456298375091247679407723064907438724
> 1725681608 853715 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138219&oldid=138214 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+114) 10
> 1725681896 436839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138220&oldid=136579 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+588) 10/* Translate it even scarier if thouyou want. */ new section
> 1725682795 71090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138221&oldid=137969 5* 03YufangTSTSU 5* (+162) 10/* Any account on other platforms? */
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> 1725686560 865678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Why tho14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138222&oldid=135934 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+63) 10
> 1725687050 929205 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bijection14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138223&oldid=138177 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+122) 10
> 1725687166 667696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bijection14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138224&oldid=138223 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+105) 10
> 1725687371 822673 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Unknown computational class14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138225 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+266) 10Created page with "i think this should have a sub category for things that have a high chance of being TC and must be at least close to it. like esolangs that has a [[Looping counter]] made in it ~~~~"
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> 1725690016 310359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138226 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1532) 10Created page with "'''Kicky BCT''' is a [[Esolang]] by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its a modified version of a [[BCT]]. it comes from two things: a misunderstanding on the [[ResPlicate]] page, and the creators hate to the fact that the datastring is not represented in the program == what has 
> 1725690947 783355 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ResPlicate14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138227&oldid=53514 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+24) 10/* Counting Up From Zero (in Unary) */
> 1725691629 385755 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CASTLE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138228&oldid=92236 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-33) 10/* Examples */ Circute is on wiki
> 1725691729 266924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Yayimhere 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Kicky BCT logo.jpg10]]"
> 1725691758 318224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138230&oldid=138226 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+66) 10
< 1725691801 60662 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ^^hate of humanity confirmed^^
< 1725691801 560657 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^
> 1725692171 457538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138231&oldid=138209 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+124) 10/* bring back the old sandbox war */
> 1725692681 340973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FizzLang Unbounded14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138232 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+320) 10Created page with "'''FizzLang Unbounded''' is a simple variant of [[FizzLang]]. the original esolang was created by [[User:Mihai Popa]] and this variant is by [[User:Yayimhere]] == the change(yea there's only one) == now the:  1 -> 100 would not be there. there would just be 
> 1725692721 297754 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FizzLang Unbounded14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138233&oldid=138232 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-2) 10
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> 1725694119 35956 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138234&oldid=18220 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-69) 10
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> 1725695138 936741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138235&oldid=138077 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+25) 10
> 1725695518 266239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138236&oldid=138235 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+16) 10
> 1725695695 994091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138237&oldid=138230 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-844) 10
< 1725695747 196326 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a qeustion. souldnt a looping counter starting at ** isntead of * proove the same things right?
> 1725696171 353022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138238&oldid=138237 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+161) 10
> 1725696311 877998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138239&oldid=138238 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-36) 10/* random examples */
> 1725696356 604713 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138240&oldid=138239 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-16) 10/* what has changed? */
> 1725697283 751458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Chance14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138241&oldid=78318 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-5) 10needs to show the User part in user page link
> 1725697334 138044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish 214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138242&oldid=135327 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-5) 10needs to show the User part in user page link
> 1725698562 405855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138243&oldid=138221 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+712) 10
> 1725698599 674894 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138244&oldid=138243 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+0) 10Change the time post
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> 1725698924 788186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138245 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+651) 10/* About IDE for "" */ new section
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> 1725699541 2846 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138247&oldid=138216 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+34) 10
> 1725699606 927495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138248&oldid=138220 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+24) 10
> 1725699639 697750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Zhongwen14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138249 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+33) 10Redirected page to [[Translated ZhongWen]]
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> 1725700227 968215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138251&oldid=138250 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-14) 10
> 1725700264 528533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138252&oldid=138251 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-12) 10
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> 1725703627 935243 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138255&oldid=138252 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+892) 10
> 1725703708 454943 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138256&oldid=138255 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-189) 10
> 1725704246 628692 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/My Decimal Number14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138257 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+214) 10Created page with "What is the formula for PSTF's number? ~~~"
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> 1725704301 713641 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/My Decimal Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138259&oldid=138258 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+4) 10
> 1725705488 151962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138260&oldid=135904 5* 03ZachChecksOutEsolangs 5* (+201) 10
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> 1725713272 656869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138263&oldid=138231 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+182) 10/* bring back the old sandbox war */
> 1725714895 897952 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Unknown computational class14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138264&oldid=138225 5* 03Corbin 5* (+570) 10Cool idea, but probably not feasible.
< 1725715616 371480 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki is now available for anyone to read, and for admins to modify.
< 1725715876 971148 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like there's so many links in that table, some of them must have died since then.
< 1725716007 189243 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :groups.google.com still exists? :P
< 1725716026 855057 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd add that aforementioned concatenative.org but I don't know if the interwiki prefix should be `cat`, `concat` or `concatenative`.
< 1725716047 271238 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We use groups.google.com a lot internally, unsurprisingly.
< 1725716049 988206 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's cache but no archive.org prefix... odd
< 1725716065 150295 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Maybe that's why the product hasn't been killed entirely?)
< 1725716073 943340 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's less useful now that it no longer functions as a Usenet frontend.
< 1725716079 88213 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The only thing I've ever used groups.google.com for was as an NNTP archive and I think that part is long gone.
< 1725716153 503543 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :All the entries in "My groups" at groups.google.com for my personal Gmail account are acting as ACL lists for dogfooding prerelease versions of different Google things.
< 1725716186 974801 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there any downside to disabling forwarding for everything?
< 1725716228 355132 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I don't mind the idea that those destinations are trusted, but I wonder what legitimate purpose these forwards really serve in the esolang context.)
< 1725716271 620616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, no real complaints
< 1725716286 140192 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I wouldn't consider myself a heavy user of the wiki
< 1725716336 227909 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"A user with 231 edits. Account created on 27 September 2015."
< 1725716351 926658 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can write shorter links using the prefix, and it'd be possible to update them all at once if the destination changes their URLs, I imagine that's the primary advantage. Which is only relevant if people want to write such links and know about the feature, of course.
< 1725716385 747445 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure we got the list from some list of defaults back when originally installing MediaWiki without thinking about it too much.
< 1725716388 457535 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But wouldn't the wiki expand them for you?
< 1725716701 666632 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I didn't know what the "forward" column does. Yeah, the WikiMedia wikis should probably be "no" here, I don't think they're useful.
< 1725716752 187442 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ain't no-one going to try going to https://esolangs.org/wiki/wikipedia:Cat expecting it to work.
< 1725716785 322975 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
> 1725716808 208723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138265&oldid=138262 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+659) 10
> 1725716854 553230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikibooks" (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
< 1725716884 972605 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, this is going to cause a bit of spam since there's no bulk edit functionality.
> 1725716897 813583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikinews" (https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716919 97281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikipedia" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716929 936942 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikiquote" (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
< 1725716940 758446 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION pats esolangs on the head

> 1725716942 750635 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikisource" (https://wikisource.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716948 483221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikispecies" (https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716953 887498 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikiversity" (https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716958 872658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wikt" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
> 1725716964 490 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_edit10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie modified prefix "wiktionary" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) in the interwiki table: disabling forwarding for WikiMedia wikis since we're not one
< 1725716985 497429 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Think that was all of them.
< 1725717081 318259 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :lgtm
> 1725717184 24556 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138266&oldid=138219 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+300) 10
< 1725717298 305491 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :conway = https://conwaylife.com/wiki/$1  might be useful
< 1725717415 682148 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(inspired by https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bitgrid which links to Unit Cell there)
< 1725718314 815829 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, but should it be `conway:` or `life:`? Despite the URL, they do call themselves LifeWiki.
< 1725718344 471982 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There should be some kind of a mechanism where each MediaWiki wiki can declare their preferred interwiki prefix, and/or a registry of them.
< 1725718401 382298 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :life: works too
< 1725718515 513240 :b_jonas_!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Steo: I think ARM32 supports two or three instruction sets, as in the classic one where instructions are fixed 32 bit long, and the variable one called thumb where instructions can be 16 or 32 bits long (maybe also longer), and I think you can mix these within a process
< 1725718529 794862 :b_jonas_!~x@88.87.242.184 NICK :b_jonas
< 1725718614 610818 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :x86 has this too, in theory you could mix x86_16 and x86_32 code in the same process, it's just that that's very rarely worth, about the only time it comes up is if a 32-bit DOS extender wants to call into a DOS file system driver, or a 32-bit boot loader called into old style BIOS, or some nonsense like that.
< 1725718638 9119 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and those ones don't even count because those call into real mode, which you *can't* mix in the same process
> 1725718641 898077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_add10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie added prefix "life" (https://conwaylife.com/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) to the interwiki table: add LifeWiki (conwaylife.com) since it's relevant to our interests
< 1725718645 280342 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can only mix 16-bit and 32-bit protected mode
< 1725718794 544076 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I changed opinion about the interwiki codes and I think they should just die these days. We should just use absolute URLs for every link, and if the wiki interface wants to display them in a special way, they can recognize the URLs directly.
< 1725718846 605749 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both google groups and yahoo groups does exist, basically they are mailing list servers where anyone can create mailing lists, and you can use the web interface to subscribe or read the archive
< 1725718862 131413 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they also used to have a usenet interface, but that part may have died
< 1725718892 161659 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's two versions of Thumb; the plain Thumb(-1) is also fixed-length at 16 bits, the extra 32-bit instructions are a Thumb-2 thing.
< 1725718923 411660 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ARM also had that Jazelle thing, where it can execute Java bytecode "natively".
< 1725718932 622652 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what? how can you have a fixed 16-bit length instruction set these days?
< 1725718940 951389 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :16 bits is just too short
< 1725718957 24794 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean it's not really "these days" because now everything runs ARM64 instead
< 1725719003 443307 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Hmm I don't hate the prefix but the fact that they are not displayed as external links feels odd.
< 1725719030 466699 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but obviously on an existing wiki we can't just disable support for interwiki prefixes, and both esolang wiki and the wikimedia sites are very long-lived, so we'll have them forever,
< 1725719051 247827 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so what I said applies only to new wikis
< 1725719070 405852 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: how they're formatted is kind of supposed to be orthogonal to how they're displayed though
< 1725719083 519687 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For Sgeo's question I was really only trying to think of examples about emulating older, pre-existing architectures, for backwards (or sideways) compatibility reasons.
< 1725719132 123886 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: x86_16 was an established older architecture when the 386 introduced x86_32
< 1725719147 394170 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait, there's a better example
< 1725719189 760153 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there are 16-bit 6502 extensions that have a compatibility mode that closely emulates the 6502 (or some 8-bit 6502 variant), they behave like that older CPU by default, but can be switched to the more modern mode
< 1725719201 627961 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a CSS class `extiw` on interwiki links (compared to `external text` for regular external links), so if I knew what I was doing I could probably make them render the same as external links.
< 1725719214 840243 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's pretty similar to the Z80/eZ80 thing.
< 1725719218 901970 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of them are even hardware-compatible with an existing 6502 variant as long as you keep them in compatibility mode in software, but then change how they use pins if you switch to 16-bit mode
< 1725719305 753906 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they need a compatibility mode because the 6502 was so popular and third-parties documented all the undocumented instructions that a lot of programs relied on what almost all undocumented behavior is (with the exception of a few instructions that just freeze the CPU), so it's hard to add new instructions; plus also they didn't just want to add new instructions but replace many of the normal ones with 
< 1725719311 510785 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, Sgeo mentioned 65816 having a 6502 mode.
< 1725719311 759852 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :16-bit equivalents
< 1725719328 268467 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plus they can just run existing 8-bit 6502 software that way
> 1725719388 754410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*bfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138267 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+914) 10Created page with "'''*bfuck''' is an esolang by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] based on [[brainfuck]] ==Commands== The tape has infinite amount of unsigned unbounded integers  +-,.[] Are the same, <> are removed and there is additional command  | Which toggles between two st
< 1725719393 515651 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think most of the interwiki codes are just inherited from defaults from the mediawiki software
< 1725719419 598073 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Thank you!
< 1725719470 544502 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"it'd be possible to update them all at once if the destination changes their URLs" => you can do URL rewriting with normal absolute URLs just as much, and then you don't need specific knowledge of the particular wiki. I think I've replaced OEIS links on the wiki after the old links failed to work.  
< 1725719473 340145 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I didn't actually add concatenative.org yet, because I couldn't pick the prefix. If you have an opinion on that, that might help.
< 1725719503 583973 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I was looking at a test edit to change the `unit cell` link I mentioned and now I'm not sure I want to actually do it.
< 1725719550 319108 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "catlang wiki" was suggested in #concatenative; it's supposedly popular with their Discord community. I might suggest "catwiki" or "catlangwiki". "concatenative" is not a bad option, given that it's their channel and domain name.
< 1725719554 4756 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because it would no longer indicate an external link.
< 1725719574 360284 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've definitely replaced several links to OEIS and to Erich Friedman's webpage from elsewhere, mostly on SE. Sadly the Erich Friedman links are trickier because it's not just a simple prefix replace, pages moved within the site too. Technically some of that wasn't at the same time, but we don't replace links every half a year.
< 1725719577 983746 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"test edit" - a preview to use proper terminology
< 1725719623 191167 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Quit: Client closed
> 1725719624 600878 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138268&oldid=121602 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+24) 10/* Things I made */
< 1725719643 133723 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Plus I think the complexity zoo may have moved. I think all three of these were universities getting nervous about what their subdomains point to and that they'll be considered endorsing everything hosted under any subdomain, which is kind of ridiculous but that's how politics goes.
< 1725719649 155950 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: It can't have a space in it for technical reasons, but both `catwiki` and `catlangwiki` would work.
< 1725719673 12962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Let's do `catlangwiki`. Thank you again for your attention to detail.
< 1725719727 864247 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"the WikiMedia wikis" => those shortcuts are probably among the more useful ones, because the esowiki was originally founded to rescue esolang documentation that would be deleted from en.wikipedia
< 1725719737 256994 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Complexity Zoo had some organizational issues; they couldn't really cross-reference. I visited a while ago and took detailed drawings (https://github.com/MostAwesomeDude/zaha/tree/master/complexity) but didn't write down the academic details.
> 1725719745 526189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_add10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10Fizzie added prefix "catlangwiki" (https://concatenative.org/wiki/view/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) to the interwiki table: add prefix for concatenative.org
< 1725719750 796915 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ it is done.
> 1725719762 960817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck is not turing complete14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138269&oldid=134927 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+303) 10I added even more horrible things in the page
< 1725719774 383252 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I'll probably also try to style interwiki links to indicate that they're external links, but only after running some errands.
< 1725719786 359781 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :With both the Zoo and nLab, I've got projects (that one just linked and Catabase respectively) that are basically "this wiki could have been written as a SQL database, with constraints and checks and FKs".
> 1725719809 70036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck is not turing complete14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138270&oldid=138269 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+64) 10
> 1725719841 291594 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138271&oldid=137727 5* 03B jonas 5* (+44) 10
< 1725719923 464594 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :On the other topic, the Commodore C128 _system_ has a "CP/M Mode", but that's just based on having a separate Z80 CPU in addition to the 8502 (similar to how GBA included an SM83, the Z80-alike of the original Game Boy), so that's on a different level than the CPU execution modes.
> 1725719924 149721 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cat (Language)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138272&oldid=138069 5* 03Corbin 5* (-47) 10Test out the new interwiki entry for concatenative.org.
> 1725719950 774097 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointfree programming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138273&oldid=107984 5* 03B jonas 5* (+144) 10
> 1725719984 46268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cat program14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138274&oldid=138054 5* 03Corbin 5* (+63) 10Also add a disambiguation link here, since this is currently the redirect target for [[Cat]].
< 1725720136 929901 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :simcop2387: oh yeah, and the Commodore 128 has a Commodore 64 mode built into it, with partly separate hardware, and because the Commodore 64 was so popular but the 128 wasn't, most software running on the 128 is just Commodore 64-bit software
< 1725720148 275116 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh, that's misaddressed
< 1725720149 989698 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: ^
< 1725720217 667258 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :while the GBC has a GB compatibility mode, but I think that doesn't really count as an emulation, most of what it does is slowing down the CPU+memory and not changing the video card to color mode
> 1725720276 542245 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138275&oldid=138199 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+171) 10/* brainfuck */
> 1725720398 712429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138276&oldid=138247 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+26) 10Added a sub-title
> 1725720414 362568 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138277&oldid=138276 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4) 10Fixed
< 1725720667 877443 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol, though if i had the space and time i'd have a C64 or C128 for playing with :)
< 1725720737 399085 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :simcop2387: you can just emulate them these days
< 1725720742 348028 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a C128, but donated it to someone else when I moved countries, wasn't really using it for anything.
< 1725720747 611827 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea but it's never quite the same
< 1725720774 405904 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and i think the GBC was slightly different than that, it always boots in the slow mode and B&W until it sees the new GBC nintento copyright string/logo bitmap but it's been a while since i've looked into exactly how that worked anymore
> 1725720802 910464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138278&oldid=138275 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-3) 10/* /// */
< 1725720908 578581 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i'd also love to have a teletype of some kind acting as a notification printer like it's part of an old time news room getting automated telegraphs of breaking news but i'm a bit weird that way
< 1725721070 916294 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I missed all the "other systems" growing up (we were always a PC household), so I got a few (the C128, a Performa 5200, a SparcStation 5, an SGI Indy) to play with when they were already obsolete.
< 1725721194 328150 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The SS5 probably saw the most use, because it ran OpenBSD and was my router for a couple of years, until Fast Ethernet was no longer fast enough.
< 1725721365 944455 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Come to think of it, that's where the logs.esolangs.org logs start from, because it's also where I ran irssi on and started logging: https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2002-12-14.html
< 1725721441 801970 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh an OpenBSD router? nice
> 1725721818 133012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138279 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1862) 10Created page with " is an Esolang that designed and implemented by PSTF.  It is reversed version of [[]].  == Command Table == 
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> 1725721961 778869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138280&oldid=138167 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+19) 10
> 1725722185 888296 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138281&oldid=137672 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+48) 10
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> 1725722409 90176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07@!+-()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138282&oldid=116382 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+18) 10/* Specification */
< 1725722473 203466 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`olist 1310
< 1725722475 546614 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot
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> 1725722774 279633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138283&oldid=138278 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+32) 10/* Befunge */
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> 1725723837 904660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138284 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1411) 10Created page with "'''OTS'''(pronounced OATS) is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] == memory == memory is a stack holding negative esolangs. the stack can only hold 4 elements at a time == commands == {| class="wikitable" |+ commands |- ! command !! meaning |- | W(''n'') 
> 1725723856 168705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138285&oldid=138284 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-2) 10
> 1725724167 891688 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138286&oldid=138285 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+8) 10
> 1725725005 40080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138287&oldid=138286 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
> 1725725147 137599 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138288&oldid=138076 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* syntax */
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> 1725728299 139986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:GUAqwq/TCproof to Lambda calculus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138289&oldid=138131 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+24) 10Fix some mistakes
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> 1725728883 116938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Try14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138290&oldid=138176 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+240) 10
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> 1725728974 713832 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Try/hello world14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138291 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+69) 10Created page with "Message is an esolang about hello world == Main ==  Output is Message"
> 1725729023 686842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Try14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138292&oldid=138290 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+35) 10
> 1725729353 399164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138293&oldid=138283 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+29) 10/* Befunge/>/*> */
> 1725729403 575824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bijection14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138294&oldid=138224 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10/* examples */ Fix link
< 1725729427 326785 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aww thx
> 1725729506 29818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Turning tarpits14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138295 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+23) 10Created page with "you mean turing tarpits"
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> 1725729588 789241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*bfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138296&oldid=138267 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+4) 10/* Commands */
> 1725729618 964146 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Turning tarpits14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138297&oldid=138295 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+169) 10
> 1725729758 156464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138298&oldid=138287 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+49) 10Categories
> 1725729768 628828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138299&oldid=138298 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+0) 10Typo
> 1725729799 864587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/rights14]]4 rights10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10changed group membership for User:Fizzie from bureaucrat, checkuser, sysop to bureaucrat, checkuser, sysop, interface-admin: grant interface-admin rights to self in hopes of restyling interwiki links
> 1725729937 634367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kicky BCT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138300&oldid=138240 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+74) 10Categories
> 1725729987 933390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timelang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138301 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+426) 10Created page with "You have to wait to code == Idea == time mod 8 determines what thing gets ran  time%8 do  0      add one to current cell  1      sub one to current cell  2      move one cell left  3      move one cell right  4      input to cell  5      output from cell  6      start
> 1725730149 388133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EmojiCoder14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138302&oldid=78174 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10Category
> 1725730151 454680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BestCoder14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138303&oldid=134424 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+18) 10
> 1725730224 795166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki:Common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138304&oldid=51399 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+270) 10attempt to style interwiki links with the external-site link indicator
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< 1725730471 58279 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Kinda tricky. Different skins apply the "external site" icon differently; default Vector does it by setting a background-image to a small SVG, positioning it to 'center right' and adding a bit of padding; Citizen does it by adding an ::after pseudo-element that's `background-color: currentcolor` + masked with an SVG data: URL, presumably so that it inherits the color. But Common.css is common to
< 1725730473 776861 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :both, and I really don't want to start doing that per-skin.
< 1725730508 212612 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In the end just applied Vector's simpler external-link styling to a.extiw.
< 1725730517 619326 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1725730535 832186 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The _right_ way to do it of course would've been to put the `external` CSS class to interwiki links as well, but couldn't find an option to do that.
< 1725730917 125112 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Mediawiki and similar wiki software has the concept of "interwiki", which lets us bluelink between different wikis. It's a little brittle, but it's mostly just a way to manage lots of offsite URLs.
> 1725731040 662221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138305 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1425) 10Created page with "'''~~'''(first of all idk how i got that name second of all its pronounced sin) is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] while on a twitch stream == ~~ hexadecimal format == ~~ has a way to write hexadecimal numbers(where there are couples so they can be divided into chu
< 1725731048 276396 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: For some reason, `position: absolute` is getting added to that class. Pages like [[Cammy]] are getting a pile of links dragged to the top-right.
< 1725731064 859000 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey korvo. it had a link to send you(idk if you've seen it) its the crafting esolang. here it is: https://hackmd.io/@idkleftoutsidekkk/ryM0QbI3C
> 1725731186 114507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138306&oldid=138305 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10
> 1725731276 159742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki:Common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138307&oldid=138304 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+1) 10add a missing )
< 1725731300 378052 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I missed a ) in `url(...)` and somehow didn't notice.
< 1725731913 81298 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Nice, looks great.
< 1725731929 677013 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the link should work now
< 1725731930 673261 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Very cool.
< 1725731934 130834 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
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> 1725732130 972376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Push-down automaton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138308&oldid=20543 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+601) 10
> 1725732140 588564 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Push-down automaton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138309&oldid=138308 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+60) 10
> 1725732243 203414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuck is not turing complete14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138310&oldid=137254 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+242) 10
> 1725732366 903228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitfuckery14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138311 5* 03Xarthan 5* (+450) 10Created page
> 1725732455 3237 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitfuckery14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138312&oldid=138311 5* 03Xarthan 5* (+49) 10lmao
< 1725733270 755986 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it ready for the wiki?
< 1725733363 936686 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, how often do you dishearten, and how often do you connive?
< 1725733364 158614 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: please look at r5rs: the revised5 report on scheme
> 1725734031 868577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Direction14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138313 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+727) 10Created page with "This is a esolang that uses 2d syntax, plus orthogonal directions == The but ==  every direction command when you step on it it gets deleted == Commands ==  <>^v: direction commands  I: get input and push it to stack  ?: pops from stack and if that is 0 turn left >0 
> 1725734107 954101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BestCoder14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138314&oldid=138303 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+20) 10
< 1725734133 517897 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it ready for the wiki korvo?
< 1725734164 642429 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I don't know. I don't think I am a good person to ask about that.
< 1725734219 711044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1725734307 800495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138315&oldid=138299 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+71) 10
> 1725734347 894800 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138316&oldid=138236 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+12) 10
> 1725734448 480713 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Assembolge10]] to [[User:Ractangle:Assembolge]]
> 1725734470 217202 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle:Assembolge10]] to [[User:Ractangle/Assembolge]]
> 1725734976 665916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle/Assembolge10]] to [[User:Ractangle/iurgdytrh]]
> 1725735001 366240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/iurgdytrh14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138323&oldid=138321 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+6) 10
> 1725735276 716403 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138324&oldid=138173 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-9) 10/* Esolangs */
> 1725735615 255396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markont14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138325&oldid=43106 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Example */
> 1725735683 191015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Randwork14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138326&oldid=51122 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* External resources */
> 1725735720 286996 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Expandable Quantum Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138327&oldid=59466 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1725735982 279153 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Algebraic Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138328&oldid=136046 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Sources */
> 1725736035 888686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Awib14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138329&oldid=88809 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1725736193 731194 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bijection14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138330&oldid=138294 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+181) 10
> 1725736483 605304 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck minus -14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138331&oldid=59759 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* See also */
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> 1725736534 66464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Doors14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138332&oldid=135814 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+72) 10
> 1725736621 495428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FRAK14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138333&oldid=125034 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
> 1725736890 591392 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Doors14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138334&oldid=138332 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+308) 10
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> 1725741216 551893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitfuckery14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138335&oldid=138312 5* 03Xarthan 5* (+872) 10language overview
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< 1725742430 376641 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo boily nortti b_jonas Noisytoot
< 1725742566 394944 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: fizzie had rang the obell earlier
> 1725742903 197623 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OTS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138337&oldid=138315 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10.
> 1725742955 51019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Direction14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138338&oldid=138313 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+88) 10Categories
> 1725743171 113585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timelang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138339&oldid=138301 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+162) 10Categories
> 1725744256 60987 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitfuckery14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138340&oldid=138336 5* 03Xarthan 5* (+40) 10fixed bit count mistake
< 1725744444 90617 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How to securely specify that a self-signed X.509 certificate supersedes another self-signed X.509 certificate? Since a certificate contains a public key, presumably you could use that for security, but is there the way to use in this way, or will it be necessary to make up a new extension for this purpose?
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< 1725747816 928580 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: why not self sign a root cert and sign other certs with it
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< 1725749981 670024 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then what if you will want to revoke the root certificate?
< 1725750026 718913 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, signing other certificates with a root certificate will not tell you that one certificate is intended to supersede another one.
< 1725750949 451436 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(You could use the names to indicate this, although this won't help if the names will be changed or if the names are later used by someone else (with the same certificate authority), as well as the other reasons such as if you will want to revoke the root certificate for whatever reason)
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> 1725754297 471243 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck is not turing complete14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138341&oldid=138270 5* 03None1 5* (+6) 10
> 1725754389 143770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138342&oldid=138279 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Example */
> 1725755084 511126 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitfuckery14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138343&oldid=138340 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+158) 10Categories
< 1725755223 573617 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had consider how to make the "Common Data Format" of the operating system design. Perhaps it can be: 8-bits command code, 4-bits length type, 4-bits data type. The data types might be: 0=compound, 1=raw, 2=text, 3=reference, etc. (The number of bits allocated to each part also might be different, if this is consider to be not good enough)
< 1725755459 636239 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What is your opinions of such a thing like that?
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< 1725755819 551668 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :One possible consideration that might be needed is if a container has an unknown length.
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> 1725756502 319105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Factor14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138344&oldid=136304 5* 03None1 5* (+95) 10Distinguish confusion
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< 1725758738 918038 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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> 1725760106 556619 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03PaxtonPenguin 5*  10moved [[02QuickLangs10]] to [[QuickLang]]: no mo others
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> 1725764109 300377 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138356&oldid=138266 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+353) 10
< 1725764198 273667 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a way in Linux, for a C program to call a function to save the user memory of the program in a way that can later be restored? File descriptors should not be saved, and user/group IDs should not be saved, etc.
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< 1725764515 460911 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For example, it could be:   int write_user_memory(int fd);   Returns 1 if successful, 0 if just restored, or -1 if error.
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< 1725766096 490311 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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> 1725766341 874951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138361&oldid=138256 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+30) 10
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> 1725766694 810212 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138363&oldid=138362 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+847) 10/*  */ new section
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> 1725767501 409394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138366&oldid=138365 5* 03None1 5* (+293) 10/*  */
> 1725768910 272279 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Factor14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138367&oldid=138344 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-1) 10:
< 1725769155 329095 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TIL about [[Template:Distinguish/Confusion]]; thanks PSDW for showing the way.
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 Leidse. swing swing swing My name is Joan of Arc Bonni. Avelis. This is a document. TantYachiukevkuchokera prays; In the camera, come on, come on, come on. swing Tippiene Aniza Retdak. 
 
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> 1725770605 451494 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138370&oldid=138366 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+713) 10
< 1725770615 715891 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :O, about my "Common Data Format", it seem that ASN.1 has a way of making indefinite length, so something like that could be used. Actually, it could be made more like ASN.1 in other ways too, e.g. instead of the length type and data type like that, can use one bit to indicate constructed or primitive like ASN.1 is doing.
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> 1725772856 607723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138373&oldid=138359 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+68) 10/* bring back the old sandbox war */
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< 1725775253 222864 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im kinda confused
< 1725775255 19862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is it
< 1725775262 676547 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that every minimaztation of BF
< 1725775304 143536 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :has a problem with that when you try to minimize < and > you always end up having one preserved and the second one changed but sstill the same number of commands
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< 1725776212 451402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :am i stupid for working on burn now
< 1725776561 89289 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why do some HTTP servers send a compressed response even if the client does not request it?
< 1725776581 763290 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
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< 1725784719 154972 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: does that involve the HTTP 2 or 3 protocol? if so, I think allowing compression is assumed in those protocols even if it's not explicitly listed in the header. if not, I think I've seen at least one specialized server that still does that, with the justification that if you're downloading the large data involved uncompressed then you're just wasting everyone's bandwidth, and everyone has access 
< 1725784725 161655 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to a zlib decompression implementation these days.
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> 1725788899 405839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138391&oldid=138306 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+44) 10/* syntax */
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< 1725789826 344267 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this guy is fr every esolang creator: https://xkcd.com/2309/
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 var command = ""; /* Replace the empty string with user input */
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> 1725791237 200614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else: without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138416&oldid=138415 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+35) 10
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> 1725791387 532504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02Input hello world or else: without a quine10]] to [[Input hello world or else without a quine]]
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> 1725791459 536262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else: without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138424&oldid=138423 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+45) 10Redirected page to [[Input hello world or else without a quine]]
> 1725791491 870109 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138425&oldid=138420 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+13) 10
> 1725791516 672455 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138426&oldid=138425 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+4) 10
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> 1725791708 186037 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138429&oldid=138428 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-20) 10
> 1725791890 952178 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138430&oldid=138429 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+34) 10
> 1725791923 667885 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138431&oldid=138430 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+17) 10
> 1725792102 98044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138432&oldid=138431 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+65) 10
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> 1725792780 137256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138434&oldid=138412 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-60) 10/* /// */
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> 1725793203 390415 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138437&oldid=138393 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+72) 10
> 1725793225 887135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else:/the file in questoin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138438&oldid=138436 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10
> 1725793239 876695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else:/the file in questoin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138439&oldid=138438 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10
> 1725793315 889584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else:/the file in questoin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138440&oldid=138439 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+37) 10
< 1725794483 580942 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: you want https://esolangs.org/wiki/WysiScript
< 1725794563 540179 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what question is dis for
< 1725794681 338429 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: for https://xkcd.com/2309/
< 1725794746 876837 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1725794794 701747 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill go into implemtation and tyoe until there are no errors:)
< 1725794804 326350 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( https://wiki.haskell.org/Obfuscation#Example but worse )
< 1725794820 442391 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :??
< 1725794849 18601 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725794851 165070 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow
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> 1725795459 615746 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138442&oldid=138441 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* !!brainfeed */
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> 1725798510 72775 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138444&oldid=137481 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-501) 10/* one with no complexity(showed up to have complexity) */
> 1725798603 470559 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138445&oldid=138444 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-30) 10/* a step by step version */
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< 1725799653 293490 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what categories should dis have?:
< 1725799653 792592 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/RECT4n%3DGLE
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> 1725801072 943200 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!lyriclydemoteestablishcommunism!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138449&oldid=92081 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+103) 10
> 1725801342 727178 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138450&oldid=138448 5* 03JJRubes 5* (+125) 10add link to implementation
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< 1725801994 538837 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 if u here. somenody made a RECT4n=GLE compiler! you can check it out on the page
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> 1725802356 670124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "xxx" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138455&oldid=135417 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+39) 10/* Python */
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> 1725802860 352928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!lyriclydemoteestablishcommunism!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138458&oldid=138447 5* 03None1 5* (+57) 10/* Implementations */
> 1725802907 962460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138459&oldid=138015 5* 03None1 5* (+15) 10/* My Implementations */
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> 1725803035 482170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfih14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138461&oldid=134365 5* 03None1 5* (+28) 10/* Implementation */
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> 1725804782 15491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Faustify 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Helloworld1.png10]]": First part of a Blues++ implementation of Hello World.
> 1725804858 726190 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Faustify 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Helloworld2.png10]]": Second part of a Blues++ implementation of Hello World
> 1725804872 838432 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Faustify 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Helloworld3.png10]]": Third part of a Blues++ implementation of Hello World
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> 1725805117 924631 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138465 5* 03None1 5* (+567) 10Created page with "Let's be crazier!  1. Program 
 No, No, No, Historical records Disable lock screen Hide Menu Bar Click to set this setting as an option _Stay away from full screen display swing Hide Menu Bar 
 2. Translate:  Baidu: English -> Classical Chinese
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> 1725805429 771748 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138468 5* 03None1 5* (+2079) 10Created page with "1. Take the semiproduct 
 SRC T[UNK]kikik a  UNK]r character[UNK]chenbarder. >  <   ^ V            ..."
> 1725805529 314262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138469&oldid=138248 5* 03None1 5* (+699) 10/* Translate it even scarier if thouyou want. */
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< 1725807596 191102 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I don't think it's stupid to look at Burn, but it's kind of surprising that somebody who isn't the original author would think that they can help remember how it works.
< 1725807659 777622 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my progress is stupid
< 1725807666 728479 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can see it on my talk page ig
< 1725807683 615422 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know. It reminds me of Prince's guitar licks. He was so certain that each and every little scrap of his music was worthy, so late in life he published a massive catalogue of random five-second snippets of guitar.
< 1725807707 861794 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :???wut???
< 1725807711 512290 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its just my ideas
< 1725807764 553797 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not saying that you should stop, nor that it's a stupid effort. I'm saying that it makes me think about the world.
< 1725807776 113690 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1725808184 193991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blues++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138471&oldid=138018 5* 03Faustify 5* (+2889) 10Updated information
> 1725809717 328283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mountain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138472&oldid=124428 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+54) 10/* Commands */
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< 1725812988 936264 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
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> 1725815181 207255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FizzLang Unbounded14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138480&oldid=138233 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+166) 10Categories
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> 1725815425 906697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138482 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1129) 10Created page with "I made [[Translated ORK/PSTF Again4]] much worse ~~~~  1. Take the semi-product again 
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> 1725815624 644575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Input hello world or else without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138487&oldid=138432 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+122) 10Categories
> 1725815707 968940 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07QuickLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138488&oldid=138398 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+48) 10Categories
> 1725816045 956427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Push-down automaton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138489&oldid=138309 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10Newline
> 1725816575 964198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07106614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138490&oldid=81581 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+4031) 10Improve page
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< 1725817079 495582 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored what esolang should i make?
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< 1725817507 514381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Is there a way in Linux, for a C program to call a function to save the user memory of the program in a way that can later be restored? File descriptors should not be saved, and user/group IDs should not be saved, etc. ← not officially; old versions of Emacs used to do tha by dumping core, which makes the saving very easy, but restoring is much harder
< 1725817518 743471 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* do that
< 1725817574 243541 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Linux *did* add a lot of new syscalls semi-recently to make restoring that sort of memory image possible, though, to the extent of doing things like setting the base address to the stack to the same location as in a previous run of the program (rather than choosing it randomly)
< 1725817645 813006 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :As long as we're stepping outside of pure Linux, Capsicum can do that too.
< 1725817673 233514 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are programs that are designed to do that sort of dumping and undumping from outside a process, like CRIU 
< 1725817684 186677 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that's a bit different from having a call for a process to dump itself
> 1725817763 480930 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07...14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138493&oldid=117989 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-28) 10/* Interpreter */
< 1725817773 594653 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow, that's quite impressive in the list of things it can save and restore
< 1725817823 432267 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"open, established TCP connections" are not something I had in mind as being saveable and restorable (of course, you have to do it quickly enough that the other side of the connection doesn't give up and time out)
> 1725817838 715768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138494&oldid=137857 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+101) 10
< 1725817870 429191 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored what esolang should i make?( sorry for resend)
< 1725817937 296464 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could try writing programs in existing esolangs, or interpreters for them
< 1725817946 691292 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that way you don't need a good idea to create something interesting
< 1725817997 372972 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to stupid:( yes ik
< 1725818002 102542 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im very stupid
< 1725818083 273245 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : why is it that every minimaztation of BF has a problem with that when you try to minimize < and > you always end up having one preserved and the second one changed but sstill the same number of commands ← it's basically because >< does nothing in BF, so it's a great place for a minimization to work by adding side effects, you want >< to produce the side effect once so you have to add it to one of the movement directions but not the other
< 1725818083 529525 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they freeze all your friends and relatives with you so they aren't aged at all when you wake up, they recreate your half-finished steak dinner by frying a new slice of beef freshly and putting identical bitemarks in it with a replica of your teeth created from a mold, they adjust the planet's rotation and glue leaves back onto trees so you don't notice that the seasons have passed, 
< 1725818173 37695 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was realted cuz i was making a bf minimalization
< 1725818193 158419 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dis is it: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainhook
< 1725818210 290977 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they remove the batteries from all your portable devices so that they don't get damaged by leaking acid, then put back new but partially drained batteries painted identically when they awaken you, they clone your dog and use smell samples from your clothes to train her to accept you as her master,
< 1725818251 242167 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, quick "is this TC" puzzle (I don't know the answer): BF where >+ and <- are commands but > + < - individually aren't
< 1725818264 661611 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my guess is yes
< 1725818280 627945 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :same here
< 1725818282 88303 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :☺
< 1725818300 963938 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: what? wouldn't that always leave the tape state like 1 1 ... 1 1 (head) 0 0 ...
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< 1725818334 513969 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no
< 1725818345 133006 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because you said >+ and <- instead of >+ and -<
< 1725818346 113311 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, you can alternate between them to create more of a difference
< 1725818347 977309 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tricky
< 1725818351 164228 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you're probably thinking of >+ and -<, right
> 1725818356 832799 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/FIsh&Chips14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138495&oldid=138492 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+75) 10/* Syntax */
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< 1725818385 639461 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if you ignore every second cell on the tape, allowing it to have an arbitrary value and never loop-testing it
< 1725818407 51821 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then decrement becomes >< and increment becomes <>, I think that trivially makes it TC
< 1725818436 11455 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep, right is >>>< and left is <<<> and then we have a simple translation back to BF
< 1725818458 311337 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do like the symmetry, though
< 1725818474 326155 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :♥
< 1725818520 431945 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that doesn't work in the BF flavor where overflowing or underflowing a cell raises undefined behavior
< 1725818577 79294 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I noticed that, but decided it wasn't worth mentioning because very few BF implementations work like that
< 1725818586 591078 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're nearly all either bignum or wrwap
< 1725818591 89921 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1725818624 512204 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the closest you get to something like that is Brainpocalypse (where underflow isn't UB but does have weird side effects)
< 1725818631 169559 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this works even if underflow or underflow leaves arbitrary value in the cell you're crementing
< 1725818665 99171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I have to work out if we both coined "crement" as a verb independently or if you copied it from me – either way it's a bit surprising
< 1725818679 701454 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it's a fairly obvious coinage?
< 1725818683 639612 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive made,my smallest bf minimilazation yet
< 1725818695 270337 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I copied it from elsewhere
< 1725818745 936792 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: It's worth understanding that Brainfuck is already minimal over a certain kind of infinite-register machine. So taking features away from it is going to usually result in something that is fundamentally no longer about registers.
< 1725818771 921342 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dumped a bunch of information related to this at [[Algebraic Brainfuck]] FWIW.
< 1725818772 977688 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1725818861 749678 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, on a personal note: don't think of yourself as stupid, just not yet researched. With time and careful reading, anybody can get into this stuff. Maths is always frustrating because it's about shortcuts and ways of thinking; it's not obvious, but must be taught.
< 1725818862 882011 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: what about messing with the control flow (e.g. Brainpocalypse, Brainpocalypse II)?
< 1725818892 266197 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1725818895 564252 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I imagine it's still TC for relatively small ranged of signed integers; you can control the growth of values by periodically copying things to the right. Bitwise Cyclic Tag might be a good target for getting a really small range.
< 1725818902 855427 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i cant learn the stuff
< 1725818915 49179 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i have nothing else to make fun of ._.
< 1725818954 442382 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, now I am wondering how many pairs of brackets are needed to make non-bignum BF TC
< 1725818966 288423 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(with bignum BF you can do it with two pairs, which have to be nested for obvious reasons)
< 1725819012 356856 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I think both cases give us a finite-register machine?
< 1725819035 728868 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just ...[...[...]...]? Hmm.
< 1725819040 877487 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Brainpocalypse II is definitely a finite register machine; the original Brainpocalypse is less obvious
> 1725819043 625347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainhooking14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138497 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+304) 10Created page with "'''brainhooking''' is [[brainhook]] but smaller. its made by the same creator == changes == first of all now theres only 500 cells(with wraping around), second of all the # command is gone, and - is changed to +(n) which will add the signed b
< 1725819047 690520 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: right
< 1725819054 432553 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yessss
< 1725819059 604755 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brainhooking is done
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< 1725819068 838822 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brainfuck but it hates you even more
< 1725819114 196520 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, I thought the minimal number of brainfuck brackets was already solved for non-bignum
< 1725819122 56543 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: It might interest you that Brainfuck was never meant to be painful. It directly inherits from Corrado Böhm's P", which itself was intended to simplify Turing machines.
< 1725819151 533583 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik `bout the p prine prine stuff
< 1725819160 169724 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but mine is made to be painfull:)
< 1725819161 614390 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Practical macro-based Brainfuck programming is slightly difficult, but not much harder than other handcoded assembly programs.
< 1725819184 436796 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I only remember work on the minimal nesting level
< 1725819191 212837 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: and the fun thing there is that P'' was minimised to start with, with one of +- being combined with one of <>
< 1725819194 99894 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh. Why? I'm not against BDSM but I'm curious about motivations.
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< 1725819238 939269 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Yeah. Same thing that showed up in the semantics. I think it might be a sort of natural ring-ish situation, but I haven't proven anything about it. Proving facts about machines is hard and unfun.
< 1725819264 58074 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: no, Böhm has independently preinvented Brainfuck. 
< 1725819278 426429 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not really inheritance, it's more like parallle evolution
< 1725819282 864565 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, they left before I could mention the classics [[Malbolge]] and [[INTERCAL]].
> 1725819283 560247 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138500&oldid=138499 5* 03Ais523 5* (+433) 10/* can somebody explain why cant i make DISPLAYTITLE work properly */ it doesn't let you break links with it
< 1725819286 563657 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :convergent evolution or something
< 1725819320 539571 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wasn't Brainfuck from an Amiga hacker? But also yeah, Böhm definitely wasn't credited during his lifetime appropriately.
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< 1725819341 736679 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: INTERCAL does have some places where it's intentionally difficult, e.g. not having 32-bit numerical constants, but the restrictions are fairly minor
< 1725819364 722961 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think they're intended more to make programs look scarier/harder to read than they are to make programs harder to write
< 1725819429 335599 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a quote from the designers about how the way you initialise a 32-bit integer variable is intentionallly stupid, in order to make people look silly when they try to explain that it's the simplest way (but worded better than that)
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< 1725819458 281984 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the constant interleave/select dance (for example to add two numbers) is annoying
< 1725819471 983012 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1725819494 521680 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :trintercal made a good point though
< 1725819501 442224 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :INTERCAL's arithmetic only really shines in cases where you use selects to do something other than reversing the mingles
< 1725819516 162117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :people *know* how boolean logic works and how to use it to do math
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< 1725819539 533576 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :imback
< 1725819541 378559 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> 0xAAAA
< 1725819542 714610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : 43690
< 1725819547 996243 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :wb ipadwwwww 
< 1725819554 452667 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, mingles did have their one moment of glory in that FFT algorithm
< 1725819575 439969 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: Welcome back. I was going to mention [[Malbolge]], which *is* designed to be difficult to write code for. [[INTERCAL]] is another classic, and its humor might appeal to you.
< 1725819579 510582 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and INTERCAL's select is a processor instruction on x86-64 nowadays, although they probably didn't borrow it from there)
< 1725819579 532321 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx APic
< 1725819610 189608 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the inverse of select is also a processor instruction on x86-64, which can be used to get an efficient mingle
< 1725819611 488342 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :These have something amazing in common that Brainfuck doesn't: we think that writing correct Malbolge or INTERCAL programs is computationally hard. Like, IIRC Malbolge is NP-hard?
< 1725819613 87277 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and oerjan's unlambda interpreter used a linear shift register as a counter (incrementing a heap pointer for allocations, all IIRC)
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< 1725819633 623060 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I don't think writing correct INTERCAL programs is computationally hard
< 1725819664 230995 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Malbolge has been cracked to the extent that compilers into it exist
< 1725819666 866418 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :intercal came with a standard library that provided common operations like addition
< 1725819670 438911 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I thought that there was something about multiple-entry blocks and computing where to place PLEASEs. I freely confess I actively avoided learning INTERCAL.
< 1725819677 766733 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has sane subroutines; that alone will make translation easy
< 1725819685 807422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :malbolge is quite different
< 1725819719 507901 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the compiler just checks that the PLEASE proportion is in the range 1/5 to 1/3 inclusive, you can fulfil that requirement by placing a PLEASE on the third, seventh, eleventh, fifteenth, etc. statement
< 1725819722 426499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are no restrictions on where you can PLEASE the compiler.
< 1725819755 226531 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The stupidest thing is that you have to cover all paths to check whether you suffered from the random compiler bug.
< 1725819760 804169 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it might be fun to base it on the ratio of statements executed (continuously evaluated) rather than the ratio of statements in the source, that would be much more confusing to think about
< 1725819767 826826 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which C-INTERCAL allows you to disable)
< 1725819786 513966 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it kind-of has to be disabled to be able to write reliable test suites
< 1725819794 470992 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, I didn't know PLEASE was a static requirement. I thought it *was* measured line-by-line, like some sort of demented BASIC runtime counter.
< 1725819796 877299 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think all the compilers that have that let you turn it off, including the original
< 1725819819 737293 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although CLC-INTERCAL has two random compiler bugs with different probabilities, and different options to disable each of them
< 1725819838 767362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I fondly remember the circuitious diagram.
< 1725819855 207572 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :-i
< 1725819872 468783 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should check the prononciation of that word!
< 1725819883 8016 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:INTERCAL_Circuitous_Diagram.svg
< 1725819904 770732 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah I was pronouncing it wrong, mentally. It's not that I've ever used it in speech...
< 1725819981 823718 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had heard it used in other contexts earlier, so I knew how it was pronounced – but it's not like people would be likely to guess it from the spelling
< 1725820079 434533 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it reminds me of English place names, they nearly all have pronunciations that are very abbreviated compared to their spelling and would be hard to guess for a foreigner, but after a while you start to see patterns – and then a name like "Cirencester" comes along which is, unexpectedly, pronounced pretty similarly to how it is spelled and confuses everyone
< 1725820097 33051 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(compare to, e.g., "Leicester" which is pronounced "lester")
< 1725820168 131649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why did I misspell "pronunciation"
< 1725820174 786467 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1725820185 823291 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is a hard word to spell, I had to look it up and I hardly ever have to do that
< 1725820205 896675 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in particular the spelling does not exactly match "pronounce"
< 1725820271 763158 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I do make quite a lot of spelling errors, but the vast majority are typos rather than not knowing the correct spelling, or typing homophones because for some reason my brain works by converting words into sound and then back into letters when I type them)
< 1725820286 151580 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a word I've actually learned to spell though. So it's mostly sloppiness.
< 1725820329 568813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll live :)
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< 1725821456 478229 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I noticed that the mmap function has flags MAP_GROWSDOWN and MAP_STACK for stacks; if combining with MAP_FIXED and with assembly code, can it be used to restore the stacks? Hopefully a library can be made with handles stuff specific to instruction sets and operating systems, and the application program only needs to call the function to save the state.
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> 1725859344 584188 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02Gd auto level10]] to [[GD auto level]]
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> 1725859766 778948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Complex StackBeat14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138546 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+239) 10Created page with "{{stub}} '''Complex StackBeat''' is a version of [[StackBeat]] where it includes other stuff in ByteBeat created by [[User:Ractangle]] ==Syntax== {{cd|T}}:{{cd|||}} operator 
{{cd|F}}:{{cd|&&}} operator"
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< 1725863050 860004 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :difficult than with a more general scheme, but not seriously so, as examples of microcode
< 1725863051 729148 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :demonstrate. "
< 1725863054 534895 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/alto/Alto_Hardware_Manual_Aug76.pdf
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< 1725879772 66621 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or cheat by modifying the input, but that's not a long-term solution)
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  2. Translate:  Baidu: Korean -> Indonesian  Microsoft: Indonesian -> Classical Chinese  Baidu: Classical Chinese -> Hebrew  Micr
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< 1725886869 436538 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :finally done:D
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> 1725889070 201615 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Project Euler/2014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138593&oldid=137145 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* I fuck, you fuck */
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> 1725889212 308863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07VERPNL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138595 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+232) 10Created page with "{{Stub}}{{WIP}} VERPNL stands for Vietnamese "Extendable" Reverse Polish Notation Language. The specific meaning of "Extendable" is not specified, but the language idea and name is created 6 months ago and now I'm creating the page."
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> 1725891059 164901 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mepytaruon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138602&oldid=94057 5* 03Ardemit 5* (-222) 10The interpreter is no longer public
> 1725891127 263793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Xyzzy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138603&oldid=138596 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+97) 10
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< 1725891835 586681 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is xkcd and esolangs involved so much???
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> 1725892462 808464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Scratch is dumb14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138611&oldid=138610 5* 03None1 5* (+351) 10
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< 1725893454 67765 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what esiolang should i make?
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< 1725903575 789912 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey guys i made dis:
< 1725903576 290492 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/.chat
< 1725904207 440047 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feeback?
> 1725904333 536469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/vector.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138617 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+24) 10Created page with "pre {   overflow:auto; }"
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> 1725904703 696690 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03PiggyPigCute 5*  10New user account
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< 1725904967 442742 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :stupid question, why does Linux have an mlock2 system call, why isn't the interface just new advise types to madvise?
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> 1725905042 450826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PiggyPigCute14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138622 5* 03PiggyPigCute 5* (+161) 10that's me :)
< 1725905049 945181 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im very confused
> 1725905329 5359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138623 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+910) 10Created page with "'''2 Player''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its a 2d esolang with two pointers: the data and code pointer. they both move starting going left in the upper left corner of the program == commands == {| class="wikitable" |+ commands |- ! command !! descrip
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< 1725907589 569018 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Because Google keeps paying for new syscalls instead of adopting memory-safe programming practices.
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< 1725908589 895104 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: wait, is that like when CPU manufacturers design instruction set extensions such that they can say a high number in marketing for how many new instructions they support, or calculators that have "242 functions" written on their packaging material?
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< 1725909009 804674 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Wow, that's an interesting analogy. I'll have to think about that, thanks.
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< 1725909156 58655 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, tangential to that... I'm wondering whether AVX-512 was introduced so that after switching to 64 byte cache lines, you once again have operations that operate on a whole cache line's worth of data at a time.
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< 1725909288 36699 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I don't think so. 
< 1725909373 643790 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it was introduced so that by the time we have CPUs with execution units 64 bytes wide we already have the compilers and other tools to support them working. it's better than releasing new CPUs that perform twice as fast in theoretical measurement but no programs that you'll ever see use that extra capability.
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> 1725917580 583052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GD auto level14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138652&oldid=138637 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+3) 10grrrr GRRRR WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY ARTICLES?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
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< 1725924832 791505 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a way with the "openssl" command to connect and send a client hello message and then display the server's messages and extensions but then to send an error code and not begin the application protocol? I will just want to see what extensions and other features the server will send, e.g. if it requests a client certificate, what parameters are included in the request.
< 1725925141 345571 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If it requests a client certificate and what the parameters are, is specifically what I intended to check.
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< 1725926129 114582 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It only says "No client certificate CA names sent". I know the server accepts client certificates (and it accepts self-signed certificates, so a certificate authority is not needed), but what I want to know is what key types and signature types the server claims are acceptable.
< 1725926261 354779 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have no idea how to use Smalltalk-72
< 1725926270 946423 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a manual, I should probably... read it
< 1725926331 433450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm still boggling at the idea of just... having different CPU architectures for different languages, and making the CPU emulate different ones, and... switching OSes to a rewritten version just to run a program in a different language
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< 1725928466 656926 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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< 1725940383 918406 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: Biological metaphors might help. Kay was fascinated by what's known as the "central dogma" of genetics: a strand of DNA is encoded instructions to a certain kind of protein.
< 1725940428 728900 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It turns out that there's more than one encoding and also that DNA isn't the only encoding medium. I imagine Kay was thinking of the same sort of change-of-encoding situation.
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> 1725949966 530644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kava14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138664&oldid=138036 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Truth-machine */
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> 1725952751 165221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138671&oldid=138670 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+32) 10/* C# */
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< 1725958750 923355 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :HTML question. Do browsers these days have some built-in CSS stuff to make the column widths of a table resizable by the user, such as by dragging the borders in the header row, or is this only available as client-side scripts?
< 1725958922 298772 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, there's a CSS property called resize. I'll have to test that.
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> 1725961210 295007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:B4K3D14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138673 5* 03B4k3d 5* (+39) 10Created page with "Hi can't wait to sumbit my eso-slang ;D"
> 1725961504 512179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B4k3d14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138674 5* 03B4k3d 5* (+112) 10Created page with "> Refining syntax > formal specification  > custom interpreter or compiler for programs  > will provide examples"
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> 1725968321 205830 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10moved [[02Project Euler10]] to [[Project Euler (language)]]: Move project euler language to another page so that project euler problems can have its page properly
> 1725968321 222958 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10moved [[02Talk:Project Euler/110]] to [[Talk:Project Euler (language)/1]]: Move project euler language to another page so that project euler problems can have its page properly
> 1725968489 429372 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10moved [[02Talk:Project Euler (language)/110]] to [[Talk:Project Euler/1]] over redirect: Move accidentally moved page back
> 1725968489 444400 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete_redir10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10None1 deleted redirect [[02Talk:Project Euler/110]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[Talk:Project Euler (language)/1]]"
> 1725968531 651751 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Project Euler14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138686&oldid=138681 5* 03None1 5* (-7) 10Changed redirect target from [[Project Euler (language)]] to [[User:ProjectEuler]]
> 1725968584 130057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Scratch14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138687 5* 03None1 5* (+26) 10Redirected page to [[User:Scratch]]
> 1725968636 771303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Project Euler (language)/114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138688&oldid=138685 5* 03None1 5* (-34) 10Blanked the page
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> 1725974685 175678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Expansion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138698&oldid=123856 5* 03None1 5* (-7) 10/* A+B Problem */ Formatting does not work in pre
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> 1725977550 764362 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BIO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138700&oldid=85448 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-13) 10if there is a non userpage it should be linked to
> 1725977695 127397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GD Auto level14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138701&oldid=138675 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10stop it now unname4798
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> 1725977880 339820 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GD Auto level14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138703&oldid=138701 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1131) 10Replaced content with "{{Lowercase}} im sorry, you must mean [[gd auto level|this]]"
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> 1725978094 714578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Scratch is dumb14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138705&oldid=138611 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+405) 10
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> 1725978389 745584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:ETA14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138709 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+166) 10Created page with "suprised no one has talked yet --~~~~ - the person behind the instruction table on this page"
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> 1725979598 560205 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138717&oldid=138716 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (-2) 10
< 1725979857 831267 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i had an idea to make a esolang based on turnabelism
< 1725980044 299748 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. Have you seen the various notations that have been invented in the past couple decades?
< 1725980083 98601 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its a pretty weird idea
< 1725980125 8118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have too tapes or whatever
< 1725980131 410735 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with looping marks n' stuff
< 1725980158 816107 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and recors onto another tape
< 1725980380 348966 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if there becomes an over record(so we dont stop in time) we will rterecord
< 1725980382 800529 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that my idea
< 1725980711 707254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo now
< 1725980719 885050 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*no
< 1725980872 78033 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: One notation is DJ Radar's notation; I gather that it's used to teach at Berklee but can't find any details online.
< 1725980878 173160 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another is S-notation: https://www.tenor-conference.org/proceedings/2016/07_Sonnenfeld_tenor2016.pdf
< 1725980951 198311 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like to make mi own(cuz i hate myself) but oh well
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< 1725981046 26050 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Well, what's the goal?
< 1725981119 153472 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It might surprise you to learn that many of us have specific aims when creating new languages. For example, I do PLT research and I call some projects "esoteric" so that I don't have to argue about what's "practical" or "marketable".
< 1725981153 129785 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Several folks are working on fundamentals of computability theory. Some folks want to make languages that are difficult to use. Some folks are making art.
< 1725981160 849887 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my goal is to have something to do cuz im always bored cuz im a loner:(
< 1725981176 322219 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my goal is to keep myself sane ig:)
< 1725981178 726084 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is the way
< 1725981192 883534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1725981206 563749 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh! Try Touhou. You will not be bored but you might lose some sanity.
< 1725981240 231198 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no im not a gamer
< 1725981248 221066 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i cant play it cuz i use old puter
< 1725981249 816163 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's nothing wrong with recreational conlangs, but keep in mind that languages are for *communicating*. It might not be the best solo activity.
< 1725981281 57403 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for me no
< 1725981286 988061 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for me esolangs are
< 1725981291 477628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to experiment
< 1725981296 804761 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do special stuff
< 1725981299 26103 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do new stuff
< 1725981338 620805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but non esolang's are like that yea
< 1725981460 855467 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. As long as you're having fun and following community guidelines, we invite folks to make art and experiment.
< 1725981474 234392 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1725981475 235254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
< 1725981597 79638 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION idly wonders what a recreational conlang is

< 1725982502 59061 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway is my esolang idea good korvo
< 1725982509 117607 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and can i get some help
< 1725982561 607099 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: That's why I asked what your goal is.
< 1725982575 646121 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725982599 853770 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well now you know ig:)
< 1725982705 942444 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see why an esolang would need a goal?
< 1725982750 162256 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725984279 18622 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: my only advice is to start with something tiny
< 1725984291 570442 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1725984320 563559 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :since it probably won't be used by anyone it's usually not worth the effort to invest a lot of time into a language
< 1725984388 525382 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc
< 1725984396 498971 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :time doest matter to me lol
> 1725986309 211076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138718&oldid=138717 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-2) 10/* Erase data in a cell */ Header, formatting
< 1725986649 430383 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would happen ona computer if you fr just adeed two things that are underfined together?
< 1725986652 760255 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like just did that
< 1725986656 926980 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with no care in the world
< 1725986664 51547 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
< 1725986976 682288 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ask chatgpt
< 1725986989 364486 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gud idea lol
< 1725986991 215265 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :How do you have something undefined on a computer?
< 1725987018 289862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like lets say python where you do a + b but none of them are defined??
< 1725987025 870274 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BUT YOU JUST LET IT HAPPEN
< 1725987028 857417 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sor for caps
< 1725987036 114285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :without gigving an error?
< 1725987038 755485 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*giving
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< 1725988353 999701 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :asked chatgpt
< 1725988356 512797 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no gud answer
< 1725988376 914572 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what a twist
< 1725988410 530428 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
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< 1725989095 583969 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so bored idk what to do
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> 1725990840 528747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138719&oldid=138718 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-102) 10/* Interpreter */
< 1725990904 970653 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: It might be hard to think about, but technically a CPU never has undefined behavior. Similarly, every Python name refers to some object, and Python's VM defines their interactions.
< 1725990921 568354 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting
< 1725990930 488928 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so what would happen
< 1725990935 513560 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wouæd i just get garbage?
> 1725990946 369104 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138720&oldid=138719 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10/* Syntax */
< 1725990979 597618 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I'm asking you how the situation arises in the first place.
< 1725991194 524179 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well i said. but now when you say that
< 1725991200 918156 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wouldnt be undefined
< 1725991244 297225 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In Python, it's not possible to get into this situation without manually writing bytecode. The VM will LOAD_FAST both `a` and `b`, then BINARY_OP them with `+`.
< 1725991268 941567 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1725991269 950431 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kk
< 1725991277 49403 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The typical CPU can't really do this either. If you ask it to ADD two registers, then it'll do that regardless of whether you put values into those registers.
< 1725991326 155261 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :When folks say that a behavior is undefined, they are usually being *epistemic*, not *ontic*. They're talking about *what we know* about the CPU, not *what it actually does*.
> 1725991394 462398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138721&oldid=138699 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+55) 10/* Languages with halting instructions/infinite loops */
> 1725991505 319820 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138722&oldid=138721 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10/* ////Thue/Expansion */
> 1725991625 904371 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138723&oldid=138722 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+9) 10/* ////Thue/Expansion/A=B */
< 1725991639 504585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1725991642 333138 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have an answer
< 1725991717 896527 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and another question
> 1725991719 887140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138724&oldid=138723 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10/* Languages with halting instructions/infinite loops */
< 1725991825 774981 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that is what if you just let the CPU do whatever
< 1725991927 904198 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think some instructions in 6502 are unstable, although this is different from the undefined behaviour in programming languages such as C.
> 1725992242 203694 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138725&oldid=138724 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+161) 10/* ////Thue/Expansion/A=B */
< 1725992340 475520 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Then you get what we call a "weird machine": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_machine
< 1725992359 275327 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Even here, though, we see that the CPU tends to enter stable "weird states" which are programmable with "weird instructions".
< 1725992388 297334 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oooo
< 1725992402 231159 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like to see a esolang like dis
> 1725992442 466789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138726&oldid=138720 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+66) 10
< 1725992517 966597 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :imma make a weirdmachie rn
< 1725992521 839692 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk how
< 1725992523 950268 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i will
< 1725992773 421286 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz help
< 1725992784 815566 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you do it?
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> 1725993292 87885 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138727&oldid=138726 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1725993311 641834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138728&oldid=138727 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1725993379 508843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Triforce14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138729 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+124) 10Created page with "a space is not a triangle(lol) -x-~~~~"
< 1725993762 309944 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW83: Weird machines usually arise from security vulnerabilities. To start building an understanding, maybe look up heap-spraying attacks in Web browsers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_spraying
< 1725993785 563012 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im not trying to hack lol
< 1725993799 439614 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The instructions normally would be interpreted as allocating objects in a loop. But they are actually weird instructions for confusing the underlying garbage collector.
< 1725993890 50422 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wouldnt that be [-] for currentm cell in bf(lol?)
< 1725993893 646821 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds like it
< 1725993895 276261 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk
< 1725994013 136431 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1725994027 407865 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think ive made one
< 1725994028 406770 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1725994395 498132 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i did it it think
< 1725994397 657336 :wWwwW83!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :less gooo
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> 1725995462 833382 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138731&oldid=138730 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Hello, world! */
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> 1725995932 140130 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138733&oldid=138731 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+114) 10/* Examples */
> 1725995941 404580 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138734&oldid=138733 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* =Move data from a cell to an another cell */
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> 1725998047 291915 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138736&oldid=138735 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1725998053 425742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138737&oldid=138736 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Hello, world! */
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> 1726000320 397787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FlipFlop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138740&oldid=135022 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10
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> 1726003518 824770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10moved [[02GD Auto level10]] to [[Gd auto level]]: history merge to revert pagemove vandalism
> 1726003518 840143 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Gd auto level10]]": Deleted to make way for move from "[[GD Auto level]]"
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> 1726003634 539015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GD auto level14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138746&oldid=138676 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10fix double redirect after move war
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< 1726004522 82796 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : wWwwW: It might be hard to think about, but technically a CPU never has undefined behavior. ← I'm not convinced I agree – many CPUs have instructions documented as having behaviour that isn't defined in all circumstances, and in some cases (e.g. the 6502) the behaviour is not consistent in practice either
< 1726004626 785926 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although there are also cases where the behaviour is documented as undefined, but is in fact 100% consistent, and the manufacturer has kept it consistent for compatibility reasons even though it would be more efficient to change it
< 1726004660 979832 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. on x86/x86-64, BSF on a register holds 0 (documented as undefined by Intel, and as leaving the register unchanged by AMD – Intel's behaviour in practice is the same as AMD's)
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< 1726004691 802216 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there are plenty of cases where the behaviour depends on analog effects, and those in turn can depend on noise
< 1726004803 301906 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I think most CPUs can't get into a state where a register doesn't have a value – but it's quite common to get "open bus" behaviour when older CPUs attempt to read a memory address that doesn't correspond to physical memory
< 1726004864 71950 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which typically returns some value that was recently read or written using the same wires, or some default value if they weren't recently used, but in between you get a mix and the length of time it takes to go from one state to the other varies based on analog factors
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< 1726010018 123765 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. Also, not undefined behavior, but x86 has a bunch of cases for old instructions where the documentation says that some or all of the arithmetic FLAGS bits are left with an undefined value. This can happen with at least AND, OR, XOR, TEST; SHR, SAL, SAR, ROL, ROR, RCL, RCR; MUL, IMUL, DIV, IDIV; BT, BTR, BTS, BTC; BSF, BSR; AAA, AAS, AAD, AAM, DAA, DAS. That's almost every old instruction that can 
< 1726010024 363312 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :modify the arithmetic bits in the flags, except for ADD, ADC, SUB, SBB, CMP, INC, DEC; CMC, CLC, STC; SAHF, and the ones that load the entire FLAGS or EFLAGS. Newer instructions usually avoid this sort of undefined result.
< 1726010085 517710 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I actually don't know what those instructions do to the flags in practice, nor whether or not it's consistent
< 1726010097 803886 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know either
< 1726010127 414736 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BSF leaving the register unchanged is an interesting problem for compiler writers, though, because if you choose to rely on that behaviour you can make the asm considerably simpler and less branchy
< 1726010135 506844 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, it's relying on UB
< 1726010146 96601 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LLVM chooses not to rely on the UB, at least when compiling Rust
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< 1726010397 443148 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: wait, that is UB? I thought that was documented, but I also thought it was usually not worth to use on modern CPUs, which specifically add a prefixed variant for BSF and BSR with very different opcodes that does not do that to avoid the extra dependency on the old value of the register
> 1726010483 896378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Scratch is dumb14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138749&oldid=138705 5* 03None1 5* (+266) 10
< 1726010568 134043 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or do you mean using the undefined behavior offered by the source language (eg. C) low-level function?
< 1726010570 994869 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it's UB on Intel but not AMD, according to the docs
< 1726010602 715878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on modern CPUs, you just use lzcnt and tzcnt, yes, but current compilers aren't by default generating code that assumes they're available
< 1726010633 627021 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, you're right, the Intel docs says that the destination register gains undefined value after BSF and BSR with 0 input operand
< 1726010638 633066 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hadn't known that
< 1726010666 578213 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, they get interpreted as their older equivalent on older CPUs, which is useful in the case of tzcnt because the results are the same for all arguments except 0
< 1726010686 474187 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can just set the result register to 64 and then tzcnt, and you get the right result on both new and old CPUs
< 1726010702 426784 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this doesn't work with lzcnt becaue the return values are different
< 1726010733 523965 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it doesn't work with LZCNT? interesting, I never noticed that
< 1726010763 96462 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because LZCNT counts 0 = most significant and the old instruction counts 0 = least significant
< 1726010778 76584 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can't interpret the return value without knowing which instruction you used
< 1726010809 568741 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when were these instructions added? between SSE4.2 and AVX with the marketing bit-manipulation instructions like BLSI? or earlier?
< 1726010891 391236 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it isn't obvious because they have their own feature flag, so it might not even be monotonically increasing
< 1726010942 66731 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, Wikipedia says it's part of BMI1 and just has the feature flags done weirdly
< 1726010943 374672 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure
< 1726010989 56967 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and AMD got there first
< 1726010995 193619 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which nearly *always* screws up the feature flags
< 1726011031 614640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, LZCNT is by AMD and TZCNT by Intel, just to make things as thoroughly confusing as possible
< 1726011044 185320 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rofl
< 1726011080 825657 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that sounds like a mess
< 1726011138 363875 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the ABM flag (which AMD invented) reflects LZCNT support, and BMI1 reflects TZCNT support, on both AMD and Intel processors; but all Intel processors that set either set both
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< 1726011219 403587 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks like TZCNT and LZCNT were added roughly at the same time as AVX2, so later than I thought
< 1726011273 497889 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Intel added them at the same time as the BMI2 instructions (which include the select operator from INTERCAL)
< 1726011428 853223 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that was around AVX2, rather than before AVX like I implied earlier. ok.
< 1726011472 157491 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :AVX confuses me because I can never remember which instructions it does
< 1726011474 78987 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then it's not that surprising that compilers can often still not use it if you don't specifically target a later processor
< 1726011499 163541 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :IIRC it was a more efficient API and more consistent encodings for the existing SSE instructions, plus a few 256-bit instructions but not very many of them?
< 1726011519 707132 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, is there an equivalent of caniuse.com but for processor instructions?
< 1726011549 112909 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm mostly interested in whether targeting AVX2/BMI2 by default is reasonable nowadays or whether there are likely to be users who don't have support
< 1726011557 346326 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you mean? AVX contains vector instructions similar to SSE2, but they're encoded in a very different way, and the floating-point ones can be either 32 byte wide (on the newly introduced YMM registers) or 16 bytes wide, while the integer ones can only be 16 byte wide, right? 
< 1726011579 433667 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, is it just a float/int split?
< 1726011590 958075 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought it implemented a few of the instructions at 32 but most at 16
< 1726011628 346966 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this might explain why LLVM prefers to use floating-point instructions for memcpy, if they were added before the equivalent integer instructions
< 1726011631 506035 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it also has lots of new vector instructions for integers, but I think the 32 bytes is just floating points
< 1726011688 506113 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, I think the general performance advice with vector registers is "you can use the 16-byte ones for occasional use without trouble but the 32-byte ones only help if you use them heavily"
< 1726011705 80766 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this later got fixed by AVX2 which I think added 32 byte long versions for all the integer vector AVX instructions (except that some of the shuffling instructions shuffle only within a 16 byte block and there are new possibly slower shuffler instructions for the full 32 bytes wide)
< 1726011741 926909 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :calling conventions for AVX2 are a mess – it doesn't mix well performance-wise with SSE-encoded vector instructions
< 1726011745 6413 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also all the AVX vector instructions have a name starting with V and they clear the top half of the YMM registers even if they only do a 16 byte operation -- the existing SSE2 instructions couldn't be modified this way because of ABI compatibility
< 1726011758 296725 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1726011782 141605 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but I think that's s/calling conventions for AVX2/calling conventions for AVX/
< 1726011805 264516 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the ABI requires a vzeroupper before calling or returning from a function, if you use the high half of a vector
< 1726011820 323929 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that if the other function uses SSE there isn't a performance penalty
< 1726011866 542934 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but this is becoming less of a problem on later processors
< 1726011949 225627 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the ABI incompatibility is real and can't be fixed without defining a whole new incompatible ABI for which you have to recompile every user-level library, but the penalty almost never applies to recent CPUs because the processors are better optimized to handle this
< 1726012276 901569 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also AVX adds some new floating-point vector instructions, and some non-vector instructions, and it does *not* add many new integer vector arithmetic instructions despite what I said
< 1726012524 509771 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the new integer vector instructions are added by SSE3 and SSE4_2 (which precede AVX) and then AVX512, with only a few in AVX and AVX2
< 1726012530 653958 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or at least few that I care about
< 1726012774 87657 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : the ABI incompatibility is real and can't be fixed without defining a whole new incompatible ABI for which you have to recompile every user-level library, but the penalty almost never applies to recent CPUs because the processors are better optimized to handle this ← IIRC the modern processors are actually worse-optimised to handle all the combinations, some optimisations were removed to simplify the situations where they weren't neeed
< 1726012778 717156 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*needed
< 1726012802 135030 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think modern processors are slow if you use leave a value in the top half of the YMM registers and then use SSE instructions, older ones had a special case for that
< 1726012820 48127 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, modern compilers know that doing that is slow, and take care to not leave a value in the top half
< 1726012878 898447 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember being disappointed that AVX and AVX2 don't have any multiplications bigger than a 32-to-64-bit widening multiply
< 1726012898 352297 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to be honest a lot of the newly added instructions feel weird to me, like they're there either for marketing to boost the number of mnemonics, or to help beginner programmers who don't understand enough programming to use the smaller but versatile SSE/SSE2/SSE3/SSE4_2 instruction set. not all instructions are like that, some are genuinely useful new features, just a lot of them.
< 1726012903 657737 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I need to do 64-bit multiplies, it is not even worth vectorising, as I'd have to use the entire vector unit just to do the individual parts of the multiply
< 1726012936 758884 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think they're there for marketing but for a different reason: companies paying Intel to add really specific commands that would help some particular project they're working on
< 1726012943 677665 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Intel not caring that they're useless for everyone else
< 1726012948 867781 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, unless you can use double float multiplications
< 1726012980 234671 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: possible
< 1726013004 338027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :float multiply on integers only gives you 53 or 54 bits, right? so that's worse than 32-to-64 widening multiply unless your arguments are very unbalanced
< 1726013022 117777 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(assuming a double-precision float)
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< 1726013126 241485 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, but only if you want the whole integer result. sometimes you'll want only the high bits. 
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< 1726013199 773371 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though maybe that doesn't happen that often when 32 bits aren't enough and you aren't already working with double floats
< 1726013424 918754 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think the double float multiply can be useful for geometric distorting high bit depth (between 10 and 16 bits inclusive, such as raw from camera sensor) pixmap images without losing much precision
< 1726013647 282015 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(well not raw camera sensor really, but after debayering)\
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< 1726013998 11999 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I use a keyboard with a 101/104 key style enter key at home, and a keyboard with a 102/105 key style enter key at work. You have to press enter at somewhat different places between the two. This results in me often pressing enter wrong, and *in both directions* that often results in pressing the backslash key by accident togethr with enter. This is probably the closest I have to a true "walked uphill 
< 1726014004 20477 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both ways" story.
< 1726014263 837857 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, the UK keyboard layout has a confusing Enter key placement, but backslash is on the entire opposite end of the keyboard
< 1726014291 168009 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Return and # together occupy the space that would be occupied entirely by Return on a US keyboard
< 1726014332 492475 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, if you press # on a keyboard that's physically a UK keyboard, but set to a US keyboard layout, you get \ (which is a little weird – I would have expected it to act as Return)
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< 1726022054 333979 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523, b_jonas: I agree with all your points. I was hoping to show wwwww that, when it comes to programming machines, you can't really set the machine to an undefined state, only a state you don't know much about.
< 1726022086 963703 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, the entire reason why programming is so difficult is because no matter what you do, all you can really give the computer is a pile of details, each one perfectly observed.
< 1726022112 927498 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or to paraphrase the classic film Anchorman, the computer will read *exactly* what you tell it to read.
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> 1726061827 657198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Solve for x14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138770&oldid=138769 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10
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> 1726062191 955898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Solve for x14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138772&oldid=138771 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-866) 10Blanked the page
< 1726062204 806054 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait im moving it
> 1726062259 198378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ironlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138773&oldid=135125 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+84) 10/* Instructions */
> 1726062333 771132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138774 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+911) 10Created page with "'''Final Word Of The Day''' is a esolang that yet you cant program in. this is becuase Solve for x is a esolang that you must solve for. it was created by [[User:Yayimhere]] == properties == (from now on i will be saying x to represent Final Word Of The D
> 1726062348 897680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138775&oldid=138774 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+10) 10
> 1726062458 949121 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138776&oldid=138756 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+10) 10
< 1726062735 243471 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can YOU solve for x? https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day
> 1726062912 879090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138777&oldid=138775 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+34) 10
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< 1726064842 204592 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder if anybody can tho...
> 1726064993 901202 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:013414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138778&oldid=136413 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+151) 10
> 1726065013 391216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:013414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138779&oldid=138778 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10
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> 1726065699 401461 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fixed Repeating Output14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138782&oldid=138781 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+85) 10
> 1726065824 558827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138783&oldid=138766 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1726065899 109532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fixed Repeating Output14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138784&oldid=138782 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+70) 10/* Brainfuck+2 */
> 1726065923 369497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fixed Repeating Output14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138785&oldid=138784 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-69) 10Wrong place
> 1726065934 630055 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fixed Repeating Output14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138786&oldid=138785 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+69) 10There
> 1726066642 156633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Seclusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138787&oldid=118684 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10
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> 1726067599 689697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:SubI machine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138788 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+160) 10Created page with "delete TC tag while its not prooven bro. i will do it if you dont [-~~~~-]"
> 1726068084 833235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Graypinkfurball 5*  10New user account
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> 1726069251 203045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Looping counter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138789&oldid=138404 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+43) 10/* G# */
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> 1726069813 662158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Looping counter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138792&oldid=138791 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-44) 10/* How dare you fuck the brain */ also not a looping counter since its not unary
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> 1726070386 772840 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Looping counter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138794&oldid=138792 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* REG.TYPE = STR TRUE */
< 1726070824 150579 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now i need help
< 1726070838 55566 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its kinda boring on the https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day page
< 1726070847 87542 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its jyst the properties
< 1726070858 627490 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so can i get help finding a eso,.ang that works
< 1726071328 399703 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: What will you do with it?
< 1726071338 862951 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :code
< 1726071341 953836 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hate myself
< 1726071349 248837 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :add to page
< 1726071354 341783 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make it interesting
< 1726071433 979495 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Sure, code, but code *what*? What do you want to express? What do you want to communicate? What do you want your art to mean?
< 1726071579 248159 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i want my art to mean:
< 1726071579 748348 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored all day
< 1726071580 249279 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think many things are interesting
< 1726071580 748494 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :concepts are to be tested an used in the wrong places
< 1726071581 247996 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what i want to code(bascially my goals):
< 1726071581 752226 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :truth machine
< 1726071582 248891 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :looping counter
< 1726071582 748678 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TC proof(since it has to be)
< 1726071584 122590 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726071697 681417 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Am I right in guessing that you're a young student still learning about the world? Or are you an adult returning to this world after experiencing real life?
< 1726071708 830012 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :first
< 1726071713 229832 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so yes
< 1726071717 840523 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i
< 1726071725 946985 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :..lets say i have a hard time in school
< 1726071727 152508 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would encourage students to examine many *different* ways of existing. For computers, this means many different languages.
< 1726071732 994605 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, no worries. I'm a dropout.
< 1726071739 390960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok
< 1726071747 70847 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :very smart then
< 1726071748 551766 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726071753 602861 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nonetheless studying is required. Try to draw a distinction between work done for grades and work done for exploration.
< 1726071754 124131 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like to browse the wiki
< 1726071759 343093 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with random
< 1726071772 186271 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to see different stuff
< 1726071783 429084 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :One technique I really liked at university was forcing students to explore different "paradigms" of programming, from different families of language design.
< 1726071798 50498 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive *tried* to do that
< 1726071801 799438 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1726071805 503542 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :object
< 1726071808 837479 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :declarative
< 1726071822 876731 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :other stuff
< 1726071829 678392 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :functional
< 1726071837 782090 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, you should spend 4wks *each* with a language from each of the families: Prolog, Smalltalk, Forth, Lisp, ML, and then an ALGOL for comparison.
< 1726071841 250306 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :string rewriting
< 1726071857 964284 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(^rlly like dis one^)
< 1726071908 346081 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will try that
< 1726071913 343302 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nah, you need an immersion in the *languages*, not just the "paradigms". Like, concretely try writing programs in miniKanren, Pharo, Factor, Racket, OCaml (or Haskell?) and then return to Python to see what you've learned.
< 1726071927 519348 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not haskell
< 1726071937 805135 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i don think i have time for that
< 1726071941 67882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to learn stuff
< 1726071950 540202 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also im a slow learner
< 1726071969 425144 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Explore what makes them useful. miniKanren is great for constraint solving (CSP). Pharo has interesting GUI and Web tools. Factor and OCaml will bend your mind. Racket will show you how to make new languages.
< 1726071990 209783 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726072021 779167 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Weren't you just saying that you were bored? A bored artist is not interesting. To be artistic is to constantly struggle to express oneself.
< 1726072037 654233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well i do that too
< 1726072040 298555 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored
< 1726072046 70528 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i still don have time
< 1726072064 885027 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :More seriously, I'm a musician and I used to spend hours at the piano practicing trills. My roommates do visual arts and are constantly talking of color theory, shading, etc. If you want to get into this stuff, you have to get *into* it.
< 1726072075 256214 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726072082 151865 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i get *into* programming
< 1726072088 374345 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as much as i can
< 1726072094 178940 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :atleast i try
< 1726072095 129264 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
< 1726072100 826376 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk if i work differently
< 1726072106 112358 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but my stuff gets gud
< 1726072116 356253 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when im bored
< 1726072119 452521 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk what to do
< 1726072122 64094 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i get into it
< 1726072125 354228 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then
< 1726072129 361772 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i get somethin good
< 1726072154 350432 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Two things. First, relax and let your thoughts form complete sentences. You're not in a rush here; it's okay to take a minute and say what you want to say.
< 1726072169 563215 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am in a rush
< 1726072172 277684 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have like idk
< 1726072191 259514 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :until 8 o clock in denmark
< 1726072196 889009 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then i need to go to sleep
< 1726072198 831229 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :school
< 1726072200 314865 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :go hom e
< 1726072203 433841 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*home
< 1726072333 570609 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so i kinda am ig
< 1726072335 194007 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah sorry
< 1726072338 155710 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im just
< 1726072340 650699 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. Society asks too much of students. So, here's the second thing: at your age, you aren't expected to contribute to the future of esolangs. You certainly are allowed to contribute, but you're expected to take care of yourself and learn fundamentals first.
< 1726072340 729379 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1726072382 599852 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry
< 1726072384 660776 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's *okay* to not have any dreams for new languages yet. I didn't start building languages until I was like 25 or 26 maybe, and I've only really written two serious languages, including one esolang.
< 1726072396 60551 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i do
< 1726072400 877758 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like thats what i am
< 1726072404 691072 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically alli
< 1726072408 43456 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am
< 1726072415 282253 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is esolangs
< 1726072421 598854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they fly around in my head
< 1726072481 790280 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk what to do with them
< 1726072483 869408 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726072509 227102 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learn a few dozen more languages and your head will quiet down. Right now you don't have many "schemata" (fancy psychology word), so each new language is going to seem like a radically new thing. Very interesting, much to learn.
< 1726072562 325578 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can they be esolangs
< 1726072577 912415 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my memory cant take like C or something
< 1726072663 674775 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :They could be esolangs, but it'll be easier and more efficient to learn languages intended for serious use. I gave you a bunch of options earlier.
< 1726072675 329799 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726072679 971408 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i dont have like
< 1726072688 158470 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the memory capacity
< 1726072730 590781 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Take your time. Keep the docs open and refer to them often. Don't force yourself to memorize anything. Focus on *expressing* the parts of the *problem* that you want to solve.
< 1726072744 673734 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726072757 518386 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been writing Python professionally for over a decade. I still look at the docs daily.
< 1726072798 149042 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill try haskell then
< 1726072852 776290 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also the only reasaon ive learned pythonsi cuz i had another human involved
< 1726072904 882052 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. When you're just starting out, you might need in-person discussions from tutors or classes. That's common.
< 1726072918 870091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don have mone
< 1726072922 599285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or the social skill
< 1726072936 532292 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*money
< 1726072968 212375 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Python meetups are usually free. Ask the people who introduced you to programming. There's likely something nearby.
< 1726073003 67986 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :#im danish and my teacher is southafrican
< 1726073004 745710 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726073015 461015 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And yes, you'll have to build social skills if you don't want to teach yourself by reading lots of books. You have to have information presented to you one way or another.
< 1726073028 742453 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like conferences f my brain
< 1726073042 236530 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mostly cuz i go bullied at school and still do
< 1726073044 73054 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726073053 222928 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats not something to talk about here
< 1726073053 612763 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Me too. Don't worry, eventually school ends.
< 1726073060 76865 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726073065 498461 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but fuuuuuu
< 1726073071 679536 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it annoying every day lol
< 1726073123 726458 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726073137 785618 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the worst thing is that they bully my brother
< 1726073142 916317 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig im just a "nerd"
< 1726073228 505542 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726073232 4901 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i hate life ig
< 1726073233 788337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
> 1726073339 284975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07By+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138795 5* 03Catto.4 5* (+2549) 10created page for by+
< 1726073392 234075 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726073397 92581 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :haskell in
< 1726073398 91672 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay
< 1726073402 664145 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im taking totorial
< 1726073411 36977 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*tutorial
< 1726073413 621483 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever
< 1726073420 34597 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf is in
< 1726073422 754588 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726073426 160335 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill find out
< 1726073461 9418 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh so in atou applies
< 1726073462 8385 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tf
< 1726073463 374842 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726073464 563661 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :golf ig
< 1726073483 814951 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Haskell is a community flavor of Miranda, itself an attempt to make Lazy ML practical. Miranda was not Free Software for a long time, and the Haskell community formed to fix that.
< 1726073504 911636 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726073506 102096 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726073507 582754 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1726073527 948867 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's worth knowing about e.g. OCaml, which also inherits from ML via SML but is not lazy. The whole lazy-vs-eager thing, or strict vs non-strict, is a big deal.
< 1726073561 544350 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rn im doing haskell
< 1726073574 93004 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also why the hell is there the lambda symbol?
< 1726073630 56163 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726073644 393606 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the in makes definitions
< 1726073657 264837 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :When Alonzo Church went to typeset his work, he wanted to write something like a hat or overbar on top of each variable, like `ô.î.o` for what Haskellers would write as `\o -> \i -> o`.
< 1726073676 842976 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, the typesetter couldn't really do that, and the best they could do was to write a lambda before each variable name.
< 1726073680 710288 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just auto walrus
< 1726073692 796435 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It could be worse; Pythonistas would write `lambda o: lambda i: o`.
< 1726073697 589100 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k korvo
< 1726073919 867335 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: As you learn more history, you'll be like "oh yeah, Church's lambda calculus". And later, you'll be like "oh that's the K combinator!"
> 1726073922 408173 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07By+14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138796&oldid=138795 5* 03Catto.4 5* (+127) 10added optional argument to base
< 1726073936 345132 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik about both
< 1726073944 269594 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig im stupid idk
< 1726074421 327956 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-155-106-106.range86-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic
< 1726074950 555291 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nah, "smart" and "stupid" don't really mean much. You're *inexperienced*, and that's okay.
< 1726075166 451656 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.147.66 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale
< 1726075485 54538 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
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< 1726075767 730136 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726075773 779127 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont want to go so deep
< 1726075775 670314 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726075859 307208 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
< 1726075864 793845 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey
< 1726075866 819534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
< 1726075878 505359 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :how are you?
< 1726075884 645954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gud
< 1726075889 528044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :way
< 1726075898 700641 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :me2
< 1726075900 814996 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What About You
< 1726075912 863064 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay
< 1726076073 411071 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what are you doin rn
< 1726076082 129449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im questioning my own person
< 1726076102 983101 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :me?
< 1726076117 258165 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726076125 531900 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726076130 918718 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what are you doing?
< 1726076149 127624 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :not much
< 1726076171 326674 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :want somethin to do(lol)
< 1726076232 935904 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz then i have something
< 1726076365 441257 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is it?
< 1726076381 978805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :helping me solve for dis: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day
< 1726076463 333586 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.147.66 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1726076510 653184 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726076537 389917 :Europe2048!~Europe204@host-176-37-233-219.b025.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also can't solve it
< 1726076548 44774 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
> 1726076615 87187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138797&oldid=138777 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+49) 10
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< 1726077053 960027 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeee i forgot this: https://esolangs.org/wiki/W)
< 1726077311 380666 :Europe2048!~Europe204@vm-exclusive-1.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok..?
< 1726077337 941659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut is dis
< 1726077345 385564 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like why did i make tht
< 1726077350 311203 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think?
< 1726077368 893628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also bracket part of link
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< 1726078132 709169 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that joke languages shouldn't be the primary targets for disambiguations, unless they are as notable as INTERCAL.
< 1726078145 926295 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726078155 66691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it aint a joke
< 1726078165 279176 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1726078169 943322 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im confused
< 1726078201 718449 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I was looking at W, sorry.
< 1726078211 413451 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1726078212 688008 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726078214 686187 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726078224 627943 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although iNTERCAL is a joke by normal language standards, it is not a joke by esolang standards
< 1726078234 351438 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726078235 447330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't have any serious opinions about Final Word of the Day yet. I can't really say much about a language without seeing its syntax: tokens, grammar, encoding, etc.
< 1726078248 936400 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726078298 66103 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Final Word of the Day makes me wonder if it would be possible to design an esolang in that style, sufficiently to narrow it down to only one possible language
< 1726078318 64368 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way, it is a declarative esolang specification, as opposed to the normal imperative style of writing specifications
< 1726078326 362717 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
> 1726078338 647575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138798&oldid=134904 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+179) 10
< 1726078406 467849 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, I see now. w> looks fun. I've seen similar 2D languages before but I'm struggling to recall any of their names.
< 1726078419 918466 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
> 1726078498 543480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138799&oldid=138776 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+12) 10
> 1726078570 131502 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138800&oldid=138799 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
< 1726078619 768448 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this doesn't explain whether the pointer turns left or right, when turning 90 degrees
< 1726078633 130569 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726078646 626462 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, starting in the top left moving left is weird – you would have to change the pointer direction immediately to prevent it escaping the program
< 1726078665 460287 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it turns 90 degrees
< 1726078669 655161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from current direction
< 1726078678 765629 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if its going down it would go right
< 1726078680 916095 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think most 2D languages solve the "does it turn left or right?" problem by having two commands, one for each direction
< 1726078689 115602 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :going left is also 90 degrees from down, though
< 1726078699 266075 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726078702 31351 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats -90
< 1726078704 347341 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726078706 961573 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im confused
< 1726078707 962562 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaa
< 1726078714 309619 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, there is more than one convention for this
< 1726078732 349381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some mathematical conventions have it always measured anticlockwise, in which case you can say "90 degrees anticlockwise"
< 1726078733 880813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would i write that
< 1726078742 793813 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that's the one you're using
< 1726078754 983614 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726078756 963453 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
> 1726078768 993379 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138801&oldid=138798 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10
< 1726078784 301283 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it :)
< 1726078790 753680 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: re: existing languages, there's https://esolangs.org/wiki/Shove but it's different enough to probably not be a see also – there might be a more similar one
< 1726078835 708769 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I always think of these as "laser tank" languages after a childhood puzzle game that involved shooting laser beams at mazes of mirrors.
< 1726078865 507454 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Black was vaguely inspired by such a game
< 1726078871 129616 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although all the rules are different
< 1726078875 250120 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no way
< 1726078877 507477 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :DAAAAAMN
< 1726078882 803491 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i love Black
< 1726078913 497317 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nice. Very similar vibe, yeah.
< 1726078931 918362 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :early in esolangs.org's history, people were looking to make a 2D language with only one command + NOP
< 1726078932 758299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BLACK IS THE BEST(im a black lover lol)
< 1726078952 171005 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: like 1L_x?
< 1726078955 356449 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep
< 1726078963 149565 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726078968 708536 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Black was my attempt, although looking at adjacent squares makes it cheating in a way
< 1726078989 876576 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(much later I produced https://esolangs.org/wiki/Nopstacle)
< 1726078992 642355 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont think so
< 1726079055 18680 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops, I think I tagged Nopstacle as implemented by mistake
< 1726079068 913048 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the fact that Turnfunge is insane to me
> 1726079075 802823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nopstacle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138802&oldid=130573 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2) 10fix categorisation mistake
< 1726079078 248114 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the things that are TC man
< 1726079105 41747 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it took a lot of practice as a community before we got that style of language to be TC that simply
< 1726079119 116340 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726079120 178620 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :back when we were starting out, we couldn't do much better than https://esolangs.org/wiki/1L_a
< 1726079187 708725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Turnfunge reminds me of https://esolangs.org/wiki/OFFICIAL
< 1726079219 102846 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also apparently 1L_a still hasn't been proven TC? I might have a look at that)
< 1726079229 963502 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726079238 642213 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im the one who talked 'bout that right?
< 1726079267 382507 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726079287 200530 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was on i think 1L_A somethin somethin
< 1726079364 469846 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dis one: https://esolangs.org/wiki/1L_AOI
< 1726079403 795291 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my guess is that OFFICIAL is sub-TC, although it is able to count arbitrarily high I don't think there's any way to read any form of counter it has when it gets large enough to escape the original bounds of the program
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< 1726079868 901391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I'm not convinced 1L_AOI is TC, it looks like there is no way to set a zero cell to nonzero because if the MP is over a zero cell, you can't change direction and thus can't change the command from an MP-moving command to a value-changing command
< 1726079924 720209 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and cpressey noticed the same thing a while ago
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> 1726080218 329244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071L14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138806&oldid=90777 5* 03Ais523 5* (+104) 10add Turnfunge and Nopstacle
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< 1726080265 406967 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, so what if we average Turnfunge (turn left when there is a solid cell behind the pointer) and Nopstacle (turn left when there is a solid cell in front of the pointer), producing a "turn left when there is a solid cell at the pointer" language
< 1726080303 39682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I initially assumed that was sub-TC because otherwise Turnfunge would have been defined like that, but that isn't actually valid reasoning so I should think about it properly
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< 1726080362 617397 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I see, it's reversible, which doesn't necessarily make it sub-TC but makes the proof much harder
< 1726080447 332861 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even in 2024, I think it is still the case that we have no good tarpits for TCness proofs of reversible counter machines (https://esolangs.org/wiki/Flow_of_Holes was designed as a step in that sort of proof but it isn't a very simple one)
< 1726080508 787849 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in particular I am not sure that two counters is enough for a reversible counter machine to be TC
< 1726080532 236471 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but I am also not sure that it is not enough)
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< 1726086294 384994 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bah. Tried to use a test query of "Could you explain what the Funciton language is all about?" for the LLM thing (updated the model), but the keyword extraction scheme helpfully extracted the keyword "function", which of course doesn't find anything relevant, so the model output was just: > The "Funciton" language is not mentioned in the text. It's likely a typo or a term not relevant to the
< 1726086296 778567 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :provided context.
< 1726086358 761175 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's now using Gemma 2.0 rather than 1.1, since they released the 2B(-ish) parameter size version of Gemma 2 as well. But really the model quality hasn't been the (main) problem in getting useful responses: the search and article selection is (plus context size limits that haven't changed).
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< 1726086426 361814 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I probably just need some sort of maybe TF-IDF-ranked full text search thing on the original question, as-is, rather than asking the model to extract search keywords.
< 1726086506 348155 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Or maybe I could just use the custom Google search API, they've indexed the wiki anyway and it has a free tier of 100 queries per day. I just liked the notion of this being entirely self-hosted.)
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< 1726115925 105930 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holeee look at dis: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day/PkmnQ
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< 1726116435 883489 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :contiuing my message
< 1726116440 469550 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if prooved
< 1726116453 599153 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would you do to make it TC?
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< 1726124421 56720 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "the custom Google search API, they've indexed the wiki anyway" => that may help with Funciton, but some of the article titles on this wiki are so stupid that even google won't search for them
< 1726124544 474029 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: heck, in fact I just tried google and it tells me it's searching for “function site:esolangs org” and click on this small text link if I really mean “funciton site:esolangs.org”. 
< 1726124579 580345 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though even with the default spelling correction, it still gives Funciton as the second result
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> 1726141193 411975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138872&oldid=138478 5* 03None1 5* (+32) 10
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> 1726141806 819298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138874&oldid=138873 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+7) 10
> 1726141840 208115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138875&oldid=138874 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1) 10
> 1726142476 247763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138876&oldid=138433 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10testing
> 1726142548 287241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138877&oldid=138872 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10testing
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> 1726144313 822793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138878&oldid=138875 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+115) 10/* Instructions */
> 1726144626 797541 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138879&oldid=138878 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+36) 10
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< 1726147840 737260 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
> 1726148348 617270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138880&oldid=138844 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-170) 10/* examples */
> 1726148489 393851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138881&oldid=138840 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+121) 10
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> 1726149352 442645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07081514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138882&oldid=58725 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+48) 10/* Computational class */ the proof needs unbounded to be TC
> 1726149425 764577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138883&oldid=138801 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10
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< 1726150014 943351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname
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> 1726151482 344193 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:An Odd Rewriting System14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138884&oldid=137632 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+104) 10/* what was the limitation */
< 1726151546 535635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :agian to continue my message(seems nobody saw it) but what would you do to making OFFICIAL TC?
> 1726152435 511884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138885 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+261) 10Created page with "'''WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators''' or '''WCTVCUO''' is a esolang by [[User:Yayimhere]]. the only change from [[Unlambda]] is that he only operators are c and v with another operator:  .xy cre
> 1726152498 802140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138886&oldid=138885 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
< 1726152674 229716 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get feedback?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/WC_is_a_toilet_but_v,_and_c_are_Unlambda_operators
< 1726153592 841537 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1726153673 174072 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz
< 1726154117 528043 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: What does this change about Unlambda? Are some things now easier to express? Harder to read?
< 1726154141 817125 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its more limited and harder to use
< 1726154374 629604 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I misread. You've *removed* syntax. I see.
< 1726154434 198459 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726154544 415486 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is a fairly weak fragment. I'm gonna use category theory; v is the constant arrow to the terminal object and c is the standard call/cc over some continuation monad (perhaps the initial such monad?)
< 1726154583 766337 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then it's folklore that you can't build S or K from this. Continuation monads can't do anything besides be applied at some location; they don't introduce or eliminate type constructors.
< 1726154914 204778 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would you then need to add?
> 1726154956 504137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WCTVCUO14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138887 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+64) 10Redirected page to [[WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators]]
< 1726154988 762050 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make it TC
< 1726154996 954057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if this isnt TC(i assume it is)
< 1726155038 368134 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usually for combinators I'd look for a *fixed-point combinator
< 1726155057 815645 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So something like Z, Y, U, or Turing's bird.
> 1726155167 374609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138888&oldid=138800 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+57) 10
> 1726155230 974389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138889&oldid=138888 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+33) 10
< 1726155236 566124 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you haven't seen it, we have a nice table of combinators: https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Bird_sociology
< 1726155245 302032 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726155279 534319 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ik about dat
> 1726155403 662439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138890&oldid=138889 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-47) 10/* eoslangs */
> 1726155409 499513 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138891&oldid=138890 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+47) 10/* things about me */
< 1726155513 928854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i rlly love dis eoslang: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Final_Word_Of_The_Day/PkmnQ
< 1726155564 563526 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*esolang
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< 1726155804 442091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you guys think?
< 1726156068 841954 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
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< 1726156247 403044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello ais523
< 1726156250 630652 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's alright. Reminds me of f-exprs, as in Lisps like Kernel.
< 1726156438 837278 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi wWwwW
< 1726156446 754324 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doin gud?
< 1726156475 190391 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been thinking about an esolang
< 1726156483 747087 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :need to write some program fragments to make sure it works
< 1726156489 305450 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which one
< 1726156496 412727 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait one you make yourself
< 1726156512 15605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, although this one is a simple variation on a couple of existing ones
< 1726156516 618234 :fowl8!~fowl@user/fowl JOIN #esolangs fowl :fowl
< 1726156524 24019 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726156528 14440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's harder to prove TC but I think it still is
< 1726156537 474944 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :awww:(
< 1726156548 470877 :shikhin_!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin
< 1726156548 649807 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: oh wow, a sitenotice
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< 1726156612 998009 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: do you maintain the wiki hardware, too?
< 1726156613 485608 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: which implementation? i want their names. ultra10s are named after toys in toy story, but sid is the only free piece of code
< 1726156614 180658 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the hell. why did a disconnect
< 1726156616 317967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726156629 690751 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this happens a lot on IRC, in my experience
< 1726156632 679759 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially to me
< 1726156644 876520 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo, if you like stuff like f-exprs and Kernel, check out Smalltalk-72
< 1726156648 760575 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to me its so rare
< 1726156652 817137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LIKE VERY RARE
< 1726156662 792976 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rarer than me geting ads(see my talk page lol)
< 1726156704 112446 :jix_!~jix@user/jix JOIN #esolangs jix :Jannis Harder
< 1726156710 647817 :sprout_!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout
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< 1726156823 855236 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1726156872 697643 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: There's been such an uptick in the frequency of edits that I thought it'd be polite to put up a note, just so nobody spends an hour polishing an edit and is then unable to save it.
< 1726156920 139543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you program in this?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/2_Player
< 1726156925 207907 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: it does make sense
< 1726156962 728856 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on my own server I normally check the logs to see whether anyone is connected before doing maintenance, but that only works because there's an explicit "connected" state, it isn't like a wiki where you can just submit pages whenever
< 1726157003 727238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW, that's a bit confusing that it starts on the left edge and goes left. Is there wraparound? 
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< 1726157021 680954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oo yea
< 1726157025 992937 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it halts if off edge
< 1726157028 139002 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :need to add
< 1726157077 388378 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That, uh. Trivializes the language. Always halts immediately.
> 1726157087 205761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138892&oldid=138633 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+126) 10
< 1726157090 620830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wait, no, first command might take effect
< 1726157117 314189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726157123 657477 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :more command ideas
< 1726157125 141031 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not clear how the language usefully stores data
< 1726157163 438988 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a common way for languages to fail TCness is "when the amount of stored data gets too large, there is no way to read the full amount of the data" (I did that intentionally when writing BuzzFizz)
< 1726157176 754831 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726157184 504621 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the grid expands with commands
< 1726157189 92885 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need to write that
< 1726157194 208043 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also commands that only work once generally aren't very useful, unless they are needed for program startup
< 1726157322 67663 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For general interest: the "maintenance" is for setting up MariaDB replication, so that I'll have a local copy that's in the order of at most a few minutes old, rather than just the weekly one. Getting it started involves making a copy of the database and recording the current binlog position in such a way that they're consistent with each other.
< 1726157353 106632 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you mean ais523
< 1726157430 593588 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: well, a program that "demonstrates TCness" needs to be able to potentially run forever, that means it can't rely on commands that only work once
< 1726157448 197999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they...dont
< 1726157450 245425 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1726157463 462020 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION updates their local backup of the wiki

< 1726157482 380532 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just in case
< 1726157482 586167 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726157524 854806 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the early days of the wiki, we were worried it might go offline – esolang content had a habit of doing that and we wanted the wiki to preserve the content
< 1726157535 686259 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726157536 687457 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726157537 164595 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so, lots of us made backups of it so that we could restore it if something went wrong
< 1726157559 22011 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure how many people are still doing that, but it doesn't hurt to do it on occasion, especially if there's about to be major maintenance done
> 1726157661 535112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138893&oldid=138892 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+377) 10
< 1726157669 408570 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :done with the new commands
< 1726157708 76137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think now
< 1726157942 607235 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 what wo you think now?
< 1726157972 600492 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a bit difficult to work out at short notice
< 1726157991 568387 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :! and X are the new commands
< 1726157996 79453 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you like to make your esolangs difficult, which is fine, but that means that people will need to spend a lot of time to think about them
< 1726158013 901952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726158021 796992 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has an explination
< 1726158029 760279 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk if anybody wants to hear it
< 1726158035 533198 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still don't see how it stores data, though
< 1726158044 930299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in code
< 1726158048 603765 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, you should clarify whether the data pointer runs / responds to commands
< 1726158051 616455 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since you can modify code
> 1726158081 621135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138894&oldid=138893 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+15) 10
< 1726158093 142698 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I see, and then the data pointer has a larger area to wrap in
< 1726158098 568972 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok fixed the mirror thing
< 1726158139 673970 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k ais523
< 1726158457 774670 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION almost writes an unless-else statement, then thinks better of it

< 1726158488 848747 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I can write unless-next, that makes more sense
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< 1726158504 609150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :done with 2P!!
< 1726158547 985189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726158943 935712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
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< 1726158990 934960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
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< 1726160676 263544 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think now ais523
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> 1726161396 810214 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138902&oldid=138901 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+12) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/138901|138901]] by [[Special:Contributions/Yayimhere|Yayimhere]] ([[User talk:Yayimhere|talk]])
> 1726161407 955350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138903&oldid=138902 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-41) 10/* commands */
> 1726161430 760986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138904&oldid=138903 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-33) 10/* commands */
> 1726161603 139093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138905&oldid=138886 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+16) 10
< 1726161942 706353 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I was netsplit, so maybe I missed it, but do you have ` or is this purely strings of c and v?
< 1726161961 319381 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726161967 876643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would like to include it
< 1726161975 188671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but ` sint a operator
< 1726161977 152031 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1726161978 587425 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
> 1726162049 736507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turning tarpit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138906&oldid=96989 5* 03Ais523 5* (+163) 10/* Overview of the Genre */ mention Advance The Wheel!
< 1726162053 867902 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a parenthesis. It's the ability to make trees of combinators and not only strings.
< 1726162061 241355 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726162064 288616 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok i will add
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< 1726162498 682705 :wWwwW19!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did it!
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< 1726163338 946798 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726163547 924481 :sprout_!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net NICK :sprout
> 1726164028 949521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:081514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138909&oldid=138834 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+111) 10/* proof of TCness incorrect */
> 1726164465 307674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138910&oldid=138479 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* ~~ hexadecimal format */
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< 1726176669 335538 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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< 1726177029 79012 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can setcontext and pthreads be used together in the same program?
< 1726177181 741062 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, is there a better way if the signal mask is not needed for contexts?
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< 1726177923 194459 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think it can be, but if you want to do that sort of thing I recommend that you look at libcoro "http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/libcoro.html" which abstracts context switching with multiple different backends including setcontext as one of the backends
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> 1726178643 372583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bouncy Counters14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138918 5* 03Ais523 5* (+9745) 10new language!
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< 1726178777 170541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Smalltalk-72 isn't an esolang, and isn't.... weird enough compared to Forth, but... it's still weird that I wish I could write about it somewhere esolang adjacent
< 1726178906 600473 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: some people use userspace on Esolang for that sort of thing
< 1726178921 125044 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. I think zzo38 has a list of non-esoteric languages that have esoteric aspects
< 1726179086 978405 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you're writing mainly about the esoteric aspects you can probably get away with writing an article about any language, even respected good non-esoteric ones
< 1726179140 681139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION looks up fexpr to reorient himselff

< 1726179162 800513 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"All functions are fexprs" is weird but... not unique probably
< 1726179200 764105 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the more I learn about Rust's parser, the more esoteric I start to think its syntax is
< 1726179249 814709 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems like Rust started with a highly ambiguous syntax and then started putting special-case patches into the parser and lexer until it started parsing ambiguous things the way the implementors expected – I don't think many languages do that
< 1726179253 726767 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Perl does it, but it does so openly)
< 1726179286 423166 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of the ambiguities are funny but don't really matter, e.g. «4.0» is a float constant, «4 .0» is the first field of 4 interpreted as a tuple
< 1726179372 400243 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but some are more interesting, like putting a struct literal in the control variable of an if or match (with «match Identifier { … }» the { … } could belong to either the match statement or to the identifier)
< 1726179425 427470 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and some are just confusing, e.g. .. is both an operator that applies to two values of the same type, and a value, so you can write .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. and it means something (and apparently has precedence rules so that there is one "official" parse of it)
> 1726179814 875759 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Reversible Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138922&oldid=57329 5* 03Ais523 5* (+24) 10/* See also */ +[[Reversible Bitfuck]]
< 1726179946 982887 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the floating point ambiguity exists in other languages too. In python, 3.E2 is a floating-point literal with 2 as the decimal exponent, while 3 .E2 tries to access the attribute E2 of the integer 3
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< 1726180013 891396 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C++ encountered this when they added user-defined numeric literals, which are syntactically written as a numeric literal immediately followed by an identifier suffix, but since hex number literals can end in a hex digit, this could be ambiguous
< 1726180019 608809 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I wonder if .e2 parses as 0.0e2 (and, consequently, is a zero) in any language.
< 1726180061 237834 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(`.0e2` certainly does.)
< 1726180083 297973 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "in any language" probably 
< 1726180182 504859 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I thought C++ required an extra underscore in order to make that work
< 1726180184 943991 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I heard about the braces ambiguity with if/while body, I think that is important enough that every rust programmer encounter it, and as such it's a normal syntax rule and less a dangerou ambiguity
< 1726180198 888946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently the rule has changed over time
< 1726180217 433637 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nowadays there are required parentheses around the condition if the block doesn't belong to the control flow statement, but that wasn't always the rule
< 1726180362 521964 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :".. is both an operator that applies to two values of the same type, and a value" => that's not realy scary, many languages have things that are both infix operators and start of an expression, and they just parse left to right and then it's not ambiguous. the problem here is that .. can be a *suffix operator* with nothing after it or an infix operator
< 1726180476 238972 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :1..2e2
< 1726180534 785872 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also an expression alone and a prefix operator
< 1726180569 96788 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I've decided that the clearest syntax for ranges uses ..^ (from Perl 6) for exclusive ranges and ..= (from Rust) for inclusive ranges
< 1726180576 362715 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that way you don't get confused upon seeing a plain ..
< 1726180596 895196 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would also distinguish the infix operator from the suffix operator (but the infix and prefix versions would still be the same)
< 1726180615 357158 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm
> 1726180742 380782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bit bucket14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138924 5* 03Ais523 5* (+3085) 10it's about time this concept was documented  there are quite a few redlinks to it
< 1726180964 706237 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Hmm, I wonder if .e2 parses as 0.0e2 (and, consequently, is a zero) in any language. ← in Jelly, a . on its own parses as 0.5; that means that the equivalent of .e2 parses as 50.0 (however, it uses ȷ as its scientific notation separator rather than e)
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< 1726181491 657097 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aw, I forgot to do `flush tables with read lock;` when getting the binlog position. I may need to do that read-only thing again. :/
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< 1726181669 20042 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feel free
< 1726181715 467147 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've finished my big edits for the time being
< 1726181723 54766 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it's been reasonably quiet now.
< 1726181728 906027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I started writing before the maintenance window, then did something else for a few hours, and finished afterwards)
< 1726181834 876532 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also it's weird to see the site notice just appear and disappear like that, without a MediaWiki: page being edited (I know you can set it in the MediaWiki config too)
< 1726182098 306352 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: clearly there has to be a way to add a site notice if something is broken or the wiki is already in a read-only mode and you can't edit a MediaWiki: page
< 1726182136 366243 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and fizzie probably has access on the server to do that
< 1726182200 111364 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably happens less on larger mediawiki sites where there are more active wiki admins who don't have computer admin rights
< 1726182223 209177 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have to set $wgReadOnly in the config anyway to _make_ it read-only.
< 1726182271 399155 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It went by a lot quicker now that I wasn't at work getting distracted by work things.
< 1726182658 198489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is it weird that I think Smalltalk-72's conditionals are weird? (a => (b) => c) means if a then b else c, with an asymmetrical then/else thing that ... makes me think a bit of Swift guard, and makes if/elseif/else easy, like (a => (b) c => (d) e)
< 1726182686 866218 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I keep wavering between thinking it's unusual and thinking it's just if/elif/else
< 1726182846 830928 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: wait what? what's the syntax for the if-else? what you wrote is confusing
< 1726182869 79510 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :a => (b) c
< 1726182877 223988 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok that looks more reasonable,
< 1726182887 630521 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :if a is not false, execute/return b, otherwise return the rest of the expression
< 1726182912 450601 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I guess I miswrote it above
< 1726182932 696248 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though it's still strange because Smalltalk is supposed to have built-in syntax to pass lambda closures as a method argument, which means they can just have if-else as an ordinary method on booleans
< 1726182950 821830 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and need no special syntax for it
< 1726183005 978890 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the arrow is kind of old style and gone out of fashion (which I don't mind), but I don't think it's too strange
< 1726183069 719498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Smalltalk-72 is before blocks. Functions and objects are basically the same, and the way to make an object that responds to different messages is a long if/else chai
< 1726183072 14001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :chain
< 1726183076 995894 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems quite common for modern programming languages to use both -> and => but for different things
< 1726183093 165100 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it's *before* blocks syntax? 
< 1726183106 537871 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know it was called smalltalk before that
< 1726183173 267596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://smalltalkzoo.thechm.org/HOPL-St72.html emulator on the web, although it's a bit imperfect, I don't think it responds to clicks. https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/smalltalk/Smalltalk-72_Instruction_Manual_Mar76.pdf manual
< 1726183204 719061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :to if exp (:exp?(%then?(:exp. %else?(:". exp)exp)error "(no then))
< 1726183204 884962 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :		%then?(:".   %else?(:exp) false)error "(no then))
< 1726183204 897173 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :	'The ALGOL if ... then ... else ...'
< 1726183229 458882 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry?
< 1726183231 709051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :... I'm not actually going to try to understand that
> 1726183246 971050 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138925&oldid=138879 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+1122) 10/* Example programs */
< 1726183247 394194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess that arrow is encoded in ASCII as % 
< 1726183259 210589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :to is how to define new functions/classes
< 1726183267 720820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Apparently like Logo but I don't know Logo)
< 1726183345 207212 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/pablomarx/Smalltalk72/blob/a1efa79e5ba678a0bf550ba6797f36013f59e507/system/ALLDEFS#L229
< 1726183372 177150 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Definition of falseclass. Actually a primitive but string as comment shows definiton
< 1726183399 432730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Eyeball symbol is true and consumes the next token if the next token in the message matches the thing after eyeball
< 1726183415 578512 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I only ever used the turtle-moving parts of Logo, and repeat-n loops, but apparently it's object-oriented?
< 1726183437 984883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :: evaluates something in the message. So you can see how it's an if/else chain for how false should respond to messages
< 1726183594 977865 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :? in the if/then/else thing I pasted above is the arrow operator thing. % is eyeball. The Github link is easier to read than trying to paste in here
< 1726183724 65941 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I have to admit that does look like very old style code
< 1726183741 316278 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they probably learned some of that from forth
< 1726183759 459631 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean can you still say after that that smalltalk isn't related to forth?
< 1726184891 680639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://worrydream.com/EarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk/ says that it was inspired by FLEX, PLANNER, LOGO, META II
< 1726184915 590701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and Lisp, but I think that's mentioned elsewhere in that page)
< 1726184977 800634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :". My next question was, why on earth call it a functional language? Why not just base everything on FEXPRs and force evaluation on the receiving side when needed? "
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> 1726195119 957817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WC is a toilet but v, and c are Unlambda operators14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138926&oldid=138907 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+143) 10Categories
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> 1726197580 492361 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bouncy Counters14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138927&oldid=138923 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2) 10/* With five counters */ fix whitespace
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> 1726197749 613620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bouncy Counters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138928&oldid=138927 5* 03Ais523 5* (+146) 10/* Starting and stopping the program */ an important clarification which wasn't previously clear from the page
< 1726198278 499479 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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> 1726202094 101538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Computational model14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138929 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+43) 10Redirected page to [[Category:Computational models]]
> 1726202507 23921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138930&oldid=137957 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-73) 10/* examples */
> 1726202556 523339 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138931&oldid=138930 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+9) 10/* examples */
> 1726202592 320398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138932&oldid=138931 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+4) 10/* examples */
> 1726202598 990008 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138933&oldid=138932 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* examples */
> 1726202646 97590 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138934&oldid=138933 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+78) 10/* examples */
> 1726202677 70973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138935&oldid=138934 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+5) 10/* examples */
> 1726202704 257555 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138936&oldid=138935 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* syntax */
> 1726202722 173002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138937&oldid=138936 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10/* examples */
> 1726202746 679382 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[070x8007005014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138938&oldid=138937 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+5) 10/* examples */
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> 1726205233 669557 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07One-Instruction Cyclic Tag14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138939&oldid=137289 5* 03Ttulka 5* (+31) 10/* Debugging */ add Initial string
> 1726205270 193932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138940&oldid=138916 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+5) 10
> 1726205271 702007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07One-Instruction Cyclic Tag14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138941&oldid=138939 5* 03Ttulka 5* (-2) 10/* Debugging */ phrasing
> 1726205365 886968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07One-Instruction Cyclic Tag14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138942&oldid=138941 5* 03Ttulka 5* (+16) 10/* Debugging */ add subtitle
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> 1726206651 478856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Untitled 514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138943&oldid=137091 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+686) 10Backward variant
> 1726206940 986567 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Untitled 514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138944&oldid=138943 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+5) 10
> 1726208772 394839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07One-Instruction Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138945&oldid=138942 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10/* External resources */
> 1726208785 828400 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07One-Instruction Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138946&oldid=138945 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* External resources */
> 1726208972 450645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138947&oldid=138753 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+56) 10
< 1726210318 425036 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
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> 1726215666 994995 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138948&oldid=137497 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-35) 10/* Commands */
> 1726215685 271500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138949&oldid=138948 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-13) 10
> 1726216267 887195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138950&oldid=138848 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* Esolangs */
> 1726216299 480626 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle/TSYALFIC10]] to [[NRP]]
> 1726216406 435328 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138953&oldid=138951 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+77) 10
> 1726216587 816692 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Final Word Of The Day/PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138954&oldid=138839 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+60) 10/* Execution */
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> 1726222623 814768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138955&oldid=138953 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+133) 10
> 1726222887 696747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138956&oldid=138955 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+158) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726222936 405910 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138957&oldid=138956 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+19) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726223572 852459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138958&oldid=138957 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+134) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726223592 600044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138959&oldid=138958 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1726225955 398779 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138960&oldid=138947 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+39) 10/* turing completeness proof(WIP) */
> 1726226625 634043 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138961&oldid=138960 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+373) 10
< 1726226640 426388 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does this proof work?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/X%E2%81%BFx%E2%82%99
> 1726226954 397493 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138962&oldid=138908 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+10) 10/* examples */ make all example's be title
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< 1726228738 718534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz help me
< 1726230014 646239 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk if its correwct
< 1726230028 149616 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*correct
> 1726230791 2904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138963&oldid=138961 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+24) 10/* turing completeness proof(WIP) */
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> 1726230942 152271 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0740114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138964&oldid=137076 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+6) 10
> 1726231628 370656 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:2KWLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138965&oldid=129369 5* 03None1 5* (+2292) 10/* Computational class */  Turing completeness proof?
> 1726231799 678825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:2KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138966&oldid=138965 5* 03None1 5* (+22) 10/* Computational class */
> 1726231834 329516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of quines14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138967&oldid=132466 5* 03None1 5* (-71) 10/* 2KWLang */  Quine no longer work in 2KWLang
> 1726231890 332374 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138968&oldid=138904 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+179) 10
> 1726231967 759076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072KWLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138969&oldid=124856 5* 03None1 5* (+217) 10
> 1726232068 934687 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:2KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138970&oldid=138966 5* 03None1 5* (+3) 10
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> 1726233521 568366 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Isomorphism14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138971&oldid=138599 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+652) 10/* In fact, it isn't the real "Esolang". */ new section
> 1726233639 901913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Eugene 5*  10New user account
> 1726233669 530350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Isomorphism14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138972&oldid=138971 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+111) 10/* In fact, it isn't the real "Esolang". */
> 1726233702 68835 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minsky machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138973&oldid=136431 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */
> 1726233725 447437 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138974&oldid=138750 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2) 10Warring
> 1726233830 206223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138975&oldid=138672 5* 03Eugene 5* (+349) 10/* Introductions */
> 1726234174 65022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138976 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+785) 10Created page with "'''Savage Operator''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] inspired by [[Unlambda]] == syntax form == a operator is applied with [[Prefix Notation]] and brackets around a string e:  `e* == operators == some of these are represented with [[Lam
> 1726234632 763442 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Gd auto level14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138977 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1553) 10Created page with "== Changed thing and added thing by PSTF == === Suggestion === In fact, trajectory can be marked with , but not "t". === Added commands === # " will let player to collect all characters to the stack that quoted. #  1726234951 581467 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Look.png10]]": [[Look!]] logo (cat program)
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> 1726235001 681063 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Look!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138980&oldid=138979 5* 03None1 5* (+6) 10
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> 1726235495 296547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138981&oldid=138572 5* 03Dylanbeattie 5* (+107) 10Add Rockstar with explanation.
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> 1726236041 711458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Istoriya14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138983&oldid=138982 5* 03Eugene 5* (+71) 10categories
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> 1726236842 736124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138985&oldid=138891 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+22) 10
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> 1726237849 401674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138986&oldid=138963 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-5) 10/* turing completeness proof(WIP) */
< 1726237870 632733 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry for asking agian but. is the proof correct?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/X%E2%81%BFx%E2%82%99#turing_completeness_proof
< 1726240137 836370 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :looks like a reduction in the wrong direction to me
< 1726240153 663321 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why
< 1726240154 662691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726240185 266417 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :you don't need to show underload can run your programs since we know that, it's TC
< 1726240196 775145 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726240202 995962 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im trying to show that it is esolang
< 1726240206 301957 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726240209 163334 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that it is TC
< 1726240218 912313 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need to show that your language can run underload, then it's TC, given that underload is TC
< 1726240228 647569 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726240231 480461 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats what i did
< 1726240233 710873 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726240234 298129 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726240240 825877 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i translated each underload command
< 1726240249 444984 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to Xⁿxₙ
< 1726240252 316019 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay, then it's correct
< 1726240252 943465 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk if its ok
< 1726240257 536131 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok!
< 1726240268 846011 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the direction is
< 1726240276 31077 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :didn't look at detail
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< 1726240298 565790 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726240333 794274 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :wiat!
< 1726240344 639942 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it says 'translation to underload'
< 1726240351 361618 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's the wrong direction
< 1726240354 130474 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726240357 716956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuu
> 1726240372 804542 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138988&oldid=138987 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10/* turing completeness proof */
< 1726240518 24086 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it
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< 1726241147 76081 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooops disconnected
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< 1726241237 875253 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah
< 1726241258 570807 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :now you need to show the minimal subset of underload you translated is TC
< 1726241281 960160 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its...on the underlaod page
< 1726241284 825339 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*load
< 1726241399 593590 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, you could repeat that
< 1726241408 288647 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726241426 611521 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, gl. not going to check the argument
< 1726241432 28042 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe someone else will
< 1726241439 704258 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1726241443 841832 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Eugene14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=138989 5* 03Eugene 5* (+363) 10Created page with "Hello from Ukraine.  My interest in esoteric programming is that it can be a nice pun to use a program in such a language in literature or art. Ideally, in Ukrainian one, thus I search languages that use Ukrainian or are verbal language neutral. So far I found only [[
> 1726241558 919066 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138990&oldid=138988 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+32) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726241606 710973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138991&oldid=138990 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+23) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726241834 179995 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Istoriya14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138992&oldid=138983 5* 03Eugene 5* (+151) 10
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> 1726242304 349935 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138993&oldid=138959 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+92) 10
> 1726242450 838696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138994&oldid=138993 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+38) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726242508 957771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138995&oldid=138991 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+73) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726242549 966448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138996&oldid=138994 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+62) 10
> 1726242621 29687 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138997&oldid=138995 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+6) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726243020 65834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138998&oldid=138996 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+6) 10/* Examples */
> 1726243028 359913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=138999&oldid=138998 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Examples */
> 1726243153 781838 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139000&oldid=138999 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+92) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726243244 93491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139001&oldid=138997 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10/* examples */
> 1726243357 905080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139002&oldid=139001 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+58) 10/* examples */
> 1726243371 657591 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139003&oldid=139002 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* examples */
> 1726243425 10347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Isomorphism14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139004&oldid=134850 5* 03Corbin 5* (+73) 10Add disambiguation here. We may also later want a page for languages which focus on isomorphisms, like Boomerang or Janus.
> 1726243427 616889 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139005&oldid=139003 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+24) 10/* turing completeness proof */
< 1726243745 156800 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what computational class do you guys suspect dis to be?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/W)
< 1726243892 863389 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's not enough information provided. Can the machine even halt?
< 1726243910 158750 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726243919 273249 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i want to add that
> 1726243959 31752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139006&oldid=138883 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+43) 10
< 1726243963 74883 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it
< 1726244020 277711 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm going to guess that it's decideable in doubly-exponential time.
< 1726244034 545205 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why?
< 1726244044 62547 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just want to know
< 1726244066 614025 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could say that I picked a class that isn't practical to test for but is still decidable in order to be infuriating~
< 1726244096 84294 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that we can first slide all of the IPs off the board except for those which potentially go infinite, akin to Tarski's quantifier elimination.
< 1726244134 266517 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then we can use cycle-counting to determine where any infinite loops might happen and then do a sort of exponential boost to force them to converge to a single behavior.
< 1726244151 535660 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726244153 32294 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This sounds a lot like Tarski's approach to the real numbers, which is also doubly-exponential.
< 1726244205 171610 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Having multiple IPs fundamentally doesn't make this harder, because we can simulate all IPs at once. If they were concurrent then we'd have issues.
< 1726244255 159943 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It might be worth knowing that in the presence of *true* threads, the number of possible orderings of execution is superfactorial in the number of instructions being threaded.
< 1726244283 713951 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's kind of a jawdropping bound and I don't know anything else quite like it. In that case, I still think it'd be decidable but I have no clue how to quantify the time taken.
< 1726244415 412712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are concurrent
< 1726244461 894327 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The page doesn't make the small-step behavior clear. On a single step of an emulator, do we handle one IP or all IPs?
< 1726244475 796877 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all
> 1726244493 889161 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139007&oldid=139006 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+31) 10
< 1726244505 322360 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it i think
< 1726244513 468939 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay. Then I'm sticking with my first story. That's definitely simpler than if only one IP can run. Threading is very hard to reason about.
< 1726244541 702393 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1726244554 351361 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i said all. all pointers are ran at one step
< 1726244663 776368 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, and I'm saying that that means to please ignore the superfactorial guess and consider the doubly-exponential guess instead.
< 1726244686 70270 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im still confsed but ok
< 1726244688 759107 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*confused
< 1726244714 104548 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, also, what happens if two IPs intersect?
< 1726244728 212820 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need to specify on page
< 1726244729 712878 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but
< 1726244751 622592 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one from left or bottom is moved to the upper left corner of program
> 1726244811 825398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07W)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139008&oldid=139007 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+105) 10
< 1726244816 86497 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it
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< 1726244949 879645 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's progress. A lot of these questions will arise naturally if you try implementing your language.
< 1726244960 529683 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726244962 793090 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i cant
< 1726244965 990322 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im stupid and tired
< 1726244971 525675 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and i don want to tbh
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> 1726245619 449736 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Larry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139009&oldid=138838 5* 03ArsenicCatnip 5* (+538) 10Added implementation references. Gonna need to clean up the introduction
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> 1726246666 605664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139010&oldid=139005 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726246676 780334 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139011&oldid=139010 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* examples */
> 1726246734 336253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139012&oldid=139011 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726246783 844903 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139013&oldid=139012 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10
> 1726247072 828600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139014&oldid=138919 5* 03Eugene 5* (+15) 10/* I */
> 1726247110 152326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139015&oldid=139013 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+43) 10
> 1726247152 22216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139016&oldid=139015 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+39) 10/* syntax */
> 1726247244 173219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sashko875 5*  10New user account
> 1726247252 913976 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139017&oldid=139016 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-35) 10/* examples */
> 1726247339 686750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139018&oldid=139017 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-76) 10/* examples */
> 1726247356 264395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139019&oldid=139018 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+27) 10/* syntax */
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> 1726247440 85962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139020&oldid=139019 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-15) 10/* syntax */
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> 1726247672 990046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139021&oldid=139000 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+27) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726247710 142246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139022&oldid=139021 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10/* Truth-machine without loop */
> 1726247759 595827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139023&oldid=139022 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+27) 10/* Examples */
> 1726247871 427860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139024&oldid=139023 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+10) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726247899 423373 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139025&oldid=139024 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Truth-machine without loopCitation neded */
> 1726247933 288443 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139026&oldid=139025 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-22) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726247954 901148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139027&oldid=139020 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+66) 10
> 1726247985 148867 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139028&oldid=139026 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10/* Examples */
> 1726248087 832595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139029&oldid=138975 5* 03Sashko875 5* (+119) 10
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> 1726249040 420363 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Up down up up left14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139031 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+244) 10Created page with "{{Lowercase}} '''Up down up up left''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its just [[Underload]] but with a single change: ^ will now just append the top of stack to program the append another ^ to the program"
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> 1726250057 860867 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139033&oldid=139032 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+19) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726250090 842787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139034&oldid=139033 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+3) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1726254327 238644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Eugene14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139035&oldid=138989 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10
> 1726254468 250046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139036&oldid=138985 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+25) 10
> 1726254618 474994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139037&oldid=139034 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-28) 10/* Examples */
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> 1726258290 566997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MEMORYLEEK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139038&oldid=132262 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, World! Program */ fixed instruction
> 1726258302 502031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minsky machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139039&oldid=138973 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */ Wayback
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> 1726264854 331299 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burroughs 5000 assembly language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139040 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+52) 10It's esoteric that there exist computers for which there is no assembly language.
< 1726264897 363531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's... probably not actually suitable for the wiki unless "This language doesn't exist" is a language
< 1726264926 713493 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also the ALGOL variant it used did have a way to specify machine instructions, so... maybe that does count as an assembly language?
< 1726265596 749257 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see why there could be articles for nonexistant or even theoretically impossible languages. There are already some joke pages like that, and a proof or even conjecture that some properties can't be combined in a language could be interesting.
< 1726265622 812301 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Plus there's of course the nonexistent https://esolangs.org/wiki/PL/MIX )
< 1726265662 121489 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and https://esolangs.org/wiki/Kvikkalkul might be nonexistent
< 1726265726 209500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone could in theory create a B5000 assembly language I think, it's just... designed for more high level languages
> 1726265759 559996 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas/List14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139041&oldid=137449 5* 03B jonas 5* (+87) 10+Kvikkalkul
< 1726265806 960791 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: sure, and someone could create interpreters for many of the large number of boring languages with short articles here.
< 1726265830 302231 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of them just have a short and often ambiguous description with no examples and no explanation for why it's interesting
< 1726265852 821118 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would you count those as nonexistant?
< 1726265966 238916 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I want to draw the "existence" line at whether or not there's an unambiguous definition. But I'd guess some real languages have ambiguous definitions. And also someone would try to make a language whose existence is ambiguous, by potentially but not necessarily being well specified
< 1726265983 944278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe a part of the definition relies on an open math problem?
< 1726266008 117064 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I bet that already, ehm. Exists. though
< 1726266056 681347 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does
< 1726266064 744153 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726266149 775837 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but something close to it using fermat's last conjecture existed somewhere I think
< 1726266283 866987 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't find it, and I don't think it was done in an interesting way either, so something like that may have potential
< 1726266452 13323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :What's the largest twin prime pair we know?
< 1726266472 638186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I... can't promise I'd actually come up with an interesting way of doing things
< 1726266725 47281 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, if you want an open math problem, then we have ordinary languages like unlambda that may or may not be able to solve NP-complete problems in polynomial time
< 1726266742 618247 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://t5k.org/largest.html claims 2996863034895 * 2^1290000 +- 1.
< 1726266755 299738 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they may or may not be able to test graph isomorphism in polynomial time
< 1726266796 154495 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(my guess is of course can't solve NP-complete and can solve grpah isomorphism)
< 1726266960 299825 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could do something like say it's a brainfuck derivative where the symbol for "+" for example is log_2 of the largest twin prime center, "-" is log_2 of the second largest
< 1726266973 852614 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That feels a bit... trivial
< 1726267307 738994 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how I think one language does it is that the source code must contain the solution for a hard problem. how you could do that properly is to require that the source code contains a proof for a hard Ramsey number, because you can validate that quickly, and it's at least guaranteed that a proof exists (though only an exponential-sized proof is guaranteed admittedly).
< 1726267373 385080 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and unlike your example, the meaning of the program won't depend on what we have computed so far, the semantics is well-defined in an absolute sense
< 1726267439 43275 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw Sgeo the problem with that brainfuck derivative is that brainfuck is known to be Turing-complete if you can only increment each cell once an never decrement it, so you can program it that way
< 1726267480 645277 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I meant "largest that exists". It's an open question if there are a finite number of twin primes. So if there's an infinite number there is no usable language, but there's a possibility to program in it but not known how
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< 1726267495 77174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should look up Ramsey number
< 1726267558 515939 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: what matters here is that it's something we know how to compute in bounded time in theory, but that bounded time is exponentially large and large enough that it's not feasable on current computers. substitute the proof of who has winning or drawing strategy in chess if you prefer.
< 1726267706 185566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you have a different idea of what this language should do than I had
< 1726267792 896361 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably
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< 1726280024 510906 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did think the twin-prime thing was cool. I'm not going to add MtG to the BB Gauge because it's rather big and copyrighted, but maybe I should add Wang tiles.
< 1726280069 824106 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had considered doing Post correspondence machines but I think that the functor from Turing machines to PCPs is rather too good for this; I'm not sure how to handwrite a better PCP.
< 1726280107 260243 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Er, *PCMs. A PCP is quite different.
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> 1726284879 568923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mathfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139044 5* 03Sgeo 5* (+739) 10Mathfuck
< 1726284910 959285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's possible that it's ... more solvable than expected if mod256 makes things... more predictable
< 1726284968 417262 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also not sure how to deal with the possibility of overlaps. For the twin prime ones, I could say that they could be second largest twin prime pair
< 1726285091 207407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doesn't really fit "We don't know if it's a language or not"
< 1726285141 953589 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know about odd perfect numbers, but the others are good (mod 256). Collatz counterexamples must be multiples of 3 and twin primes must be of the form 6k ± 1.
< 1726286719 273617 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like I'm wasting the beautiful name Mathfuck. Especially since this is BitChanger (I just looked for something with fewer commands)
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> 1726289595 376053 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139045 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+141) 10Created page with "is this allowed?:  1 = 1 1. can i do that? [~~~~]"
< 1726290260 347724 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :With GCC, can you use -no-integrated-cpp and -wrapper to add extra steps before and after the preprocessor? Can this or something similar be used with Clang also?
> 1726290482 495903 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139046&oldid=138976 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* syntax form */
> 1726290564 755248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139047&oldid=139046 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+82) 10/* operators */
< 1726290575 48414 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is a loop possible?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Savage_Operator
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> 1726291044 743772 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139050&oldid=139049 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* syntax form */
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< 1726294492 984924 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I don't know, but you can use gcc -E to stop after running the preprocessor, and use gcc $basename.i or gcc -x cpp-output $filename to pass an already preprocessed C file (and similarly for C++), so you can just do all the preprocessing steps manually that way before you compile
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< 1726296581 271817 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there any esolangs that use surreal numbers?
< 1726296660 523325 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also if i understand
< 1726296664 925724 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :surreal numbers
< 1726296677 345303 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are just numbers holding not only reals
< 1726296682 639669 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also infinty's
< 1726296689 571195 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and infinitly small numberas
< 1726296691 573175 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
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< 1726307763 31993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit
> 1726309345 89297 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AI made dis14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139098 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+3093) 10Created page with "'''AI made dis''' is a esolang created by chatGPT. it was prompted by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its named FROSTWIRE-666 although i will use that name elsewhere == Memory Model == The language operates on 666 nodes, each capable of holding an integer.  
 These are ind
> 1726309551 715342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle/2D10]] to [[Literally just a turing machine]]
< 1726309743 377368 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does the proof of TC'ness work?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Savage_Operator
> 1726309857 838036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139101&oldid=139099 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-261) 10
> 1726309937 161189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139102&oldid=139101 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-11) 10/* Examples */ categories should not be in pre
> 1726310030 161602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139103&oldid=139102 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-40) 10/* Examples */
> 1726310091 952813 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139104&oldid=139103 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-52) 10/* Commands */
> 1726310111 241729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bubblegum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139105&oldid=90078 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-28) 10/* Reference implementation */ Though likely, still not proven Turing-complete
> 1726310269 321422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139106&oldid=139104 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+62) 10/* Examples */
> 1726310284 235415 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139107&oldid=139106 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-30) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1726310316 436851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139108&oldid=139107 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10/* Commands */
< 1726310382 395340 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.203.58 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale
> 1726311262 12375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:SchrderBernstein theorem14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139109 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+120) 10Created page with "delete dis plz. empty [~~~~]"
> 1726311787 799301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainshit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139110 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+347) 10Created page with "'''Brainshit''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]], its just [[BF]] but different == changes == first of all commands are changed like this:  + -> {  - -> }  [ -> [  ] -> ]  > -> (  < -> ) also all brackets must be matched. also this is not allowed:  [(]) so 
< 1726311913 328208 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.203.58 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
> 1726313091 530971 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Yayimhere 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:RECT4n=GLE.jpg10]]"
> 1726313102 754518 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139112&oldid=138575 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+39) 10
> 1726313227 866796 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139113&oldid=139112 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+31) 10/* real tiles */
< 1726313513 397272 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is this proof correct?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Savage_Operator
< 1726314665 341109 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:9b40:2139:2800:2d53:42b9:7c96:d9e1 JOIN #esolangs Thelie :Thelie
< 1726314796 487467 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1726314926 838579 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed
> 1726315072 365038 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Literally just a turing machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139114&oldid=139108 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Truth-machine */
< 1726315378 55704 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1726315526 410143 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User
> 1726315778 572623 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139115&oldid=139073 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+16) 10/* esolangs */
< 1726316006 177440 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
> 1726316161 421851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139116&oldid=139096 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+139) 10
> 1726316194 657137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139117&oldid=139116 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+45) 10
< 1726316346 198159 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname
< 1726316819 320363 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW
> 1726317779 400786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139118&oldid=139115 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+13) 10/* esolangs */
> 1726317791 565465 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139119&oldid=139117 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+165) 10
> 1726317801 717075 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139120&oldid=139119 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10
< 1726317810 888929 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
> 1726317892 476119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139121&oldid=139120 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+30) 10
> 1726317904 142599 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139122&oldid=139121 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10
> 1726318041 432207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139123&oldid=139122 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+6) 10
< 1726319221 837722 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:9b40:2139:2800:2d53:42b9:7c96:d9e1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
> 1726319264 953539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Func()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139124&oldid=137202 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* examples */
> 1726319274 477176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Func()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139125&oldid=139124 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* examples */
> 1726319784 841785 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wiki/pedia/.org14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139126&oldid=138062 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10
> 1726319920 234105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139127&oldid=136747 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-3) 10
> 1726319950 206410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139128&oldid=139127 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10
< 1726320013 302770 :Thelie!~Thelie@214-110-035-185.ip-addr.vsenet.de JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie
> 1726320318 379378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139129&oldid=138469 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+641) 10
> 1726320462 607596 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139130&oldid=132875 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+58) 10
> 1726320508 567283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139131&oldid=138468 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+44) 10
> 1726320663 500837 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Translated ZhongWen/None114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139132 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+518) 10Created page with "I registered to Baidu, so I has this version: 
 "said SREC  >   M"     __  > + > > "Qing T Qing Pa  I"D->a>1       =#  --PPPPPPPP..."
> 1726321226 663096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139133&oldid=139131 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+46) 10
> 1726321268 543614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139134&oldid=139133 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-3) 10Oops, AutoHotkey done that.
> 1726321391 661441 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:^14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139135 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+135) 10Created page with "then what would dis program do?:  ^^ [~~~~]"
< 1726321422 119105 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a weak esolang concept
< 1726321428 712149 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can anybody help me with expanding it?
< 1726321429 712374 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz
< 1726321574 94524 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, the concept of a plan.  good
< 1726321587 851582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726321591 909043 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im confused
< 1726321596 1732 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :nevermind
< 1726321606 750106 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726321607 750098 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726321610 505549 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait oops
< 1726321625 883374 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shall i say the concept or....?
> 1726321922 816921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/MihaiEso14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139136 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1294) 10Created page with "Crazier version of [[Translated ZhongWen/None1]]  1. Take the semiproduct 
 "said SREC  >   M"     __  > + > > "Qing T Qing Pa  I"D->a>1       =#  --PPPPP..."
< 1726321981 506617 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is irc, don't ask to ask
< 1726322004 403028 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok. sorry
< 1726322005 738879 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726322007 366919 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then ok
< 1726322074 733733 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my concept: a esolang where memory is sotred in the IP
< 1726322077 545543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ad only the IP
< 1726322080 934289 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*and
< 1726322084 859388 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and not 2d
< 1726322089 381328 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is no asciidots
> 1726322682 437801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated !English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139137&oldid=125757 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+20) 10
> 1726322889 698318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139138&oldid=138981 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+78) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1726323233 203279 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139139&oldid=139027 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726323281 583914 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Xx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139140&oldid=139139 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+35) 10/* syntax */
> 1726323422 930693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated CreativeASM14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139141 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+3127) 10Created page with "There are a lot of horribly translated languages that the originals look like English and are translated with like Baidu.  We are translating a high-level assembly language with ModernMT!  1. Take this example: 
 @ A calculator program in CreativeASM
> 1726323491 607147 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139142&oldid=137002 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+78) 10
> 1726323759 395394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated CreativeASM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139143&oldid=139141 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+67) 10
> 1726324068 604739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AmBored++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139144&oldid=68984 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+30) 10/* See also */
> 1726324134 592714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AmBored--14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139145&oldid=68985 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+30) 10/* See also */
> 1726324951 399174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:GUAqwq/brainfuck quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139146 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+9496) 10Created page with "My quine, inspired by [[User:Hakerh400/How_to_write_quines]].  >>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1726324984 110012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:GUAqwq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139147&oldid=138129 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+48) 10
> 1726324993 376389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:GUAqwq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139148&oldid=139147 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+2) 10
> 1726325126 193163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso/Sandbox 314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139149&oldid=130853 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+9) 10
> 1726325158 128975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso/Sandbox 314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139150&oldid=139149 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+0) 10
> 1726325529 698005 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Generated by AI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139151&oldid=131363 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+15) 10
> 1726325539 958508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Generated by AI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139152&oldid=139151 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+4) 10
> 1726325778 601809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PkmnQ/Wrong Wrap14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139153 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+1143) 10Created page with "[[Wrong Wrap]] is an esolang derived from an attempt to create a 2D language where NOP is the only instruction. == Execution == In programs, the only thing that matters is the length of each line. Non-newline characters are all interpreted as NOPs. We'll tak
> 1726325942 573445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AI made dis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139154&oldid=139098 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+97) 10
> 1726325982 111802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:GUAqwq/brainfuck quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139155&oldid=139146 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+739) 10
> 1726326061 136839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PkmnQ/Wrong Wrap14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139156&oldid=139153 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2) 10
> 1726326105 835561 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated CreativeASM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139157&oldid=139143 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+22) 10
< 1726326988 47572 :visilii_!~visilii@46.61.242.60 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in
< 1726327189 74169 :visilii!~visilii@46.61.242.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
> 1726327556 609025 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139158 5* 03Xff 5* (+597) 10Created page with "'''Sorry''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its under load but with one change that makes Sorry have only two commands == information == there is one change. now the ^ does dis: :pop top 4 elements. the first popped is a second popped is b, third poppe
> 1726328016 279325 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139159&oldid=139118 5* 03Xff 5* (+12) 10/* esolangs */
< 1726328324 468714 :Snufkin!~ismael@189.217.64.239 JOIN #esolangs * :ismael
> 1726328364 835366 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139160&oldid=139158 5* 03Xff 5* (+128) 10
< 1726328455 483407 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.206.114.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT :
< 1726328521 693619 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: If you say so. A common theme in your writing is a lack of clarity and foundations; it's not clear *what* your languages manipulate.
> 1726328646 785596 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Arrow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139161&oldid=97018 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+13) 10/* External resources */
< 1726328829 537671 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If I assume Unlambda's semantics, then I think I understand your Savage Operator claim, but I have to make that assumption; I have to copy information about another language into your setting.
< 1726328944 433520 :Snufkin!~ismael@189.217.64.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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> 1726328957 276594 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07B14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139162&oldid=116357 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+10) 10
< 1726328981 800832 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have gotten strangely addicted to underload: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Sorry
> 1726328999 160951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07B14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139163&oldid=139162 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10
< 1726329169 525146 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726329197 426714 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im like 99.999% sure that sorry is TC but idk
> 1726329398 514347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139164&oldid=116858 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* See also */
< 1726329762 845945 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.206.114.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull
> 1726329790 784965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139165&oldid=30457 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1726330043 10383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TotallyNotSethP 5*  10New user account
> 1726330117 195993 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139166&oldid=139029 5* 03TotallyNotSethP 5* (+176) 10added Seth introduction
< 1726330297 708419 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if ts correct
> 1726330442 985898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139167&oldid=139160 5* 03Xff 5* (+13) 10
> 1726330684 828593 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139168&oldid=139167 5* 03Xff 5* (+0) 10
> 1726331228 182099 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139169&oldid=138783 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+97) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726331249 222675 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139170&oldid=139169 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-4) 10/* Disan Count (kinda) */
> 1726331260 630700 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139171&oldid=139170 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726331271 449887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139172&oldid=139171 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-4) 10/* Truth-machine */
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> 1726331795 845400 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139179 5* 03Xff 5* (+51) 10Created page with "proof of turing completeness(WIP):  [...] -> \n...)"
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> 1726333349 901029 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139195&oldid=139194 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-253) 10i am removing the CLFCE section because i think it sucks
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> 1726333494 950571 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139197&oldid=139195 5* 03Xff 5* (+253) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/139195|139195]] by [[Special:Contributions/Ractangle|Ractangle]] ([[User talk:Ractangle|talk]]) because you cant delete something cuz YOU think it sucks. when it comes to this make a talk
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< 1726336455 396681 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo what question are you answering?
< 1726336473 612210 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: TC-ness of Savage Operator.
< 1726336513 852950 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok
< 1726336519 900110 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which part is confusing?
> 1726336676 831977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139211&oldid=139202 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+109) 10
< 1726336688 139898 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not confusing, it's unclear.
< 1726336693 714832 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how
< 1726336696 678963 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which part
< 1726336969 244442 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is unclear?
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< 1726337127 234718 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure how the append operations would work. I'm also not clear on how ∞ works; for example, what is ∞i equivalent to?
< 1726337142 996312 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726337144 469979 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726337175 27493 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so appendsaion would be like dis lambda: λx.λy.x y
< 1726337185 885802 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and ∞
< 1726337204 308921 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would make the ∞ actually be ran instead of just be a string of opertors
< 1726337351 258566 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wil edit the page
< 1726337352 675151 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726337356 287911 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait
< 1726337388 780857 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the alphja append is just the same but the y is moved inside the brackets of y
< 1726337552 787937 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mm. Okay, I think I understand how I would interpret this, but now I'm no longer certain that the S and K given are correct. I'd need to see you work out the reduction rules first.
< 1726337568 76116 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726337570 531504 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not going to ask you to do that, because it could be a lot of work, but I hope that it's obvious *why* I can't just guess.
< 1726337570 732684 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will do
< 1726337575 239666 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gimme an expression
< 1726337591 641547 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :How about SKK? It should reduce to I.
< 1726337601 519336 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726337605 410643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726337610 297743 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so lets take the expression
< 1726337620 15643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in savage opperator
< 1726337635 950230 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726337642 176196 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz K don work for two inputs
< 1726337644 86596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will fix
< 1726337736 957740 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726337738 278850 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant
> 1726337763 15654 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139213&oldid=139069 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+15) 10/* turing completeness proof */
< 1726337783 82107 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gimme somethin else plz
< 1726337990 433127 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :How about SII? I hope you're seeing the power of implementing a language rather than merely guessing at it.
> 1726337992 502406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139214&oldid=139213 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-36) 10
< 1726338000 121840 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726338001 942779 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but
< 1726338013 249685 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338020 68807 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your missing an input to S
< 1726338052 580117 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that wont work
< 1726338109 645802 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why wasn't that a problem for SKK?
< 1726338118 302780 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338123 157803 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh i saw wrong
< 1726338136 319417 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i though it was KSK
< 1726338138 382997 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something
< 1726338140 873187 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that works?
< 1726338141 874551 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726338149 46279 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how that works in combinatory logic
< 1726338167 626163 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726338182 80331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig the last could just be a like
< 1726338188 150722 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just "placeholder"
< 1726338192 724111 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or what you would say
< 1726338194 731169 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so we have:
< 1726338195 213139 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, Kxy -> x, right? So what happens with KSK?
< 1726338210 163148 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in normal combinatory logic?
< 1726338218 117874 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this tho
< 1726338227 800304 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why would this not be normal combinatory logic?
> 1726338232 107007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139215&oldid=139214 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+8) 10/* operators */
< 1726338236 197942 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz
< 1726338238 858416 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :u know
< 1726338241 822118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338244 3840 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :forget it
< 1726338266 802164 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726338276 519748 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with to input the first one would be ignored
< 1726338279 43304 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in savbage
< 1726338283 80950 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and just do Kx
< 1726338285 289658 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338287 78198 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :problem
< 1726338297 956250 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
> 1726338335 112301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139216&oldid=139215 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+37) 10/* turing completeness proof */
< 1726338353 893048 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it
< 1726338384 248826 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so now will do
< 1726338387 359954 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So the behavior of K should change depending on how many arguments it's applied to?
< 1726338392 500906 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726338403 696424 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz¨the a is for adding the y as input
< 1726338424 62979 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, that would be a reason for this not to be normal combinatory logic. Combinators should normally be extensional.
< 1726338430 155130 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are
< 1726338435 879284 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is just an application
< 1726338437 147321 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338441 190550 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i could generalize
< 1726338442 848297 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726338445 518155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gimme a sec
< 1726338474 454849 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, when I said that SKK -> I, I should have said SKKx -> Ix for all x. And that's because SKKx -> Kx(Kx) -> x, and also Ix -> x. Does this make sense?
< 1726338486 90518 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726338491 823204 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im kinda streseed gimme sec
< 1726338494 464537 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no it works
< 1726338499 55791 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since a is just to appl,y
< 1726338501 80440 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*apply
< 1726338519 67310 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338521 259253 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lemme fix stuff
< 1726338581 397585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im fixing stuff
< 1726338736 907967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338738 434906 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726338740 147104 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wont work
< 1726338741 209683 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaa
> 1726338746 866329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139217&oldid=139216 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-520) 10/* turing completeness proof */
> 1726338758 236459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Robot Is Chill14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139218&oldid=130155 5* 03Ataberk 5* (+45) 10added external github link
< 1726338774 650491 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shiiii
< 1726338777 645402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726338820 937290 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you want to understand the rest of the TC proof anyway? You hadn't constructed the important part yet.
< 1726338834 319390 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1726338844 348829 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :o didnt know that
< 1726338849 818139 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*i
> 1726338871 718388 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ataberk 5*  10moved [[02Robot Is Chill10]] to [[ROBOT IS CHILL]]: Misspelled title: per https://discord.com/channels/842220825226379265/853048386311028746/1284582140993867847
< 1726338900 327572 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You don't just need to implement S and K. You need to show that your implementation is *faithful*, meaning that for every legal reduction of S and K in combinators, there's a legal reduction in Savage Operator which performs equivalent moves.
> 1726338906 217332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ROBOT IS CHILL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139221&oldid=139219 5* 03Ataberk 5* (+0) 10change to 'ROBOT IS CHILL'
< 1726338914 154943 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726338915 452928 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726338916 654948 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726338919 87665 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, your SKK needs to reduce to something like I using Savage Operator's rules alone.
< 1726338919 134129 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :qeustion
< 1726338936 484171 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Don't ask to ask; just ask.
< 1726338943 279832 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726338979 786646 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like. you can infintly nest (λx. ), (λx.λy. x y), and (λx. x)
< 1726338988 157157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :those lambda expressions
< 1726339009 657248 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is that TC?
< 1726339051 359133 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That first one isn't an expression of lambda calculus.
> 1726339054 244925 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139222&oldid=139217 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
< 1726339062 722435 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cant you do that?
< 1726339080 832880 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt know
> 1726339095 169956 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139223&oldid=139222 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-6) 10/* operators */
< 1726339101 544440 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726339103 251436 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed it
< 1726339197 387665 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, use De Bruijn indices. The second expression is λλ(10) and the third expression is λ0. The first expression is λ... and then what?
< 1726339217 969978 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k!
< 1726339235 352083 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait the third one
< 1726339241 121906 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :os just
< 1726339245 299404 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λ0.
< 1726339250 669130 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did you swap third
< 1726339254 763882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and first?
< 1726339317 985687 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz looks like
< 1726339320 685743 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726339328 504527 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, I think I got it right. De Bruijn indices are notoriously tricky, though. Think of a De Bruijn index as counting the number of lambda binders to the left in-between the variable's binding and its usage.
< 1726339338 546506 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726339352 135529 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait
< 1726339353 136111 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726339360 797275 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λ0 is definitely the way to express the identity function. I count starting from 0, which isn't universal; some people would write those as λ1 and λλ(21) respectively.
< 1726339441 245492 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726339447 942853 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but then λ...?
< 1726339456 562977 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how does that work?
< 1726339463 140599 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, the rest of the TC proof would start by constructing SII. I picked it because SIIx -> Ix(Ix) -> x(x). It applies things to themselves! This is a "Turing bird" and it's not always possible to build.
< 1726339477 815325 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh cool!
< 1726339491 299942 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I don't know. That's what I'm saying; your (λx.) operator doesn't do something I understand in terms of LC.
< 1726339532 471297 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
> 1726339536 30123 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139224&oldid=139223 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+11) 10/* operators */
< 1726339572 950562 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, then notice that SII(SII) reduces to itself. This is sometimes called an "omega" expression.
< 1726339582 748882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726339585 614687 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow
< 1726339609 52658 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then the TC-ness of SK is that we can't decide whether an expression is reducible to something that can't be reduced further, or whether reduction goes forever in a loop.
< 1726339627 261527 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726339639 671905 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik that fact for once!dis is from when i wroked on why tho
< 1726339641 927204 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*worked
< 1726339769 107557 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1726339771 798447 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
> 1726339792 599201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BrainfuckXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139225&oldid=39212 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* External resources */
> 1726339928 69241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139226&oldid=44896 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1726339957 719583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139227&oldid=139224 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+17) 10
> 1726339999 695769 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139228&oldid=139227 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10
< 1726340198 896032 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but is netseting of λ(0) and λλ(1 0) tc?
< 1726340201 442387 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. Glad that it's making more sense.
< 1726340218 194440 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726340266 703202 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726340279 741189 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, that basis isn't TC. In terms of combinators, it's not stronger than BCI.
< 1726340291 904679 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726340294 966725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait why?
< 1726340396 307202 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because all you can do is identity and composition, like the BI basis, or like the theory of categories. Because B has a couple different ways of being phrased, we usually include C too for a saner basis.
< 1726340409 765439 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726340413 797955 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
> 1726340423 278822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139229&oldid=139228 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+61) 10
< 1726340431 199062 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait now it should work
< 1726340434 130806 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since you can do
< 1726340467 967813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :∞' (a i i)
< 1726340470 379742 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would reduce
< 1726340486 27157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to λλ(0))
< 1726340494 759505 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*λλ(0)
> 1726340496 733438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Braintrust14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139230&oldid=35662 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+12) 10
< 1726340504 511137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is K????
< 1726340506 366628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TF
< 1726340515 453664 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nooo
< 1726340520 373413 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that shouldnt work
< 1726340521 930482 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :noooo
< 1726340528 170046 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im sad for msome reason:(
< 1726340531 860869 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*some
< 1726340592 943710 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726340594 389083 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726340594 559182 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K gives you the ability to delete a value from the context. To make something like that, you need like λλ1, something that has a binder which goes unused.
< 1726340635 218352 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, S gives you the ability to duplicate a value. To make something like that, you'd need to use an index twice.
< 1726340659 162903 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726340662 703152 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1726340670 558861 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λλ(0) is k
< 1726340676 990158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :starting indexing at 0
< 1726340717 920026 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's the flip of K. Swapped arguments. It'll still work, as long as you keep in mind that it can't do the whole "konstant" thing that K is normally used for.
< 1726340731 37272 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sometimes you'll see KI used for this.
< 1726340734 757340 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726340737 225858 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1726340792 261356 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, that's why λ0 and λλ(10) can't be a basis. Both of these are *linear*; a linear term uses every bound variable exactly once.
< 1726340804 162083 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh k
< 1726340810 613804 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726340828 180262 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And no basis of linear terms can be more expressive than BCI, because (hard part) there's an algorithm that turns any linear type signature into a BCI expression.
< 1726340855 146648 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :∞' (a (a e) i)
< 1726340856 341845 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is
< 1726340875 866173 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λλ(1 λ(0))
< 1726340878 316230 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or else
< 1726340892 276543 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its λλ(λ(1) 0)
< 1726340963 996311 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726340965 613737 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726340972 812375 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λλ(λ(0) 0)
< 1726340979 803044 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is the correct one
< 1726340981 262944 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then
< 1726340986 332021 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we would copy a term
< 1726341024 453907 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726341076 592720 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think so, just from counting binders. Also note where parens are; they indicate applications, not abstractions.
< 1726341089 970711 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, I'm reading those as λλλ(10) and λλλ(00) respectively.
< 1726341093 271126 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :parens?
< 1726341104 865171 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Parentheses ()
< 1726341115 351315 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726341126 777993 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: re: and that is it
< 1726341152 405186 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In something like S, which I'll write λλλ((20)(10)) we see that index 0 is used twice at a single level of abstraction. That's a non-linear use.
< 1726341166 472500 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
> 1726341240 377058 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CompressedBF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139231&oldid=118924 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Interpreter */
< 1726341248 220383 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuu
< 1726341252 948542 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so stupid and dumb
< 1726341272 913770 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1726341280 95621 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if λλλ(00)
< 1726341283 703062 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, you're *inexperienced*. And I'm not really doing anything else right now.
< 1726341284 155516 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is correct
< 1726341294 708667 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we copied 0?
< 1726341301 4293 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: true
< 1726341327 667297 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Copied it and applied it to itself. I don't know whether that's capable of building TC behavior, but I'm sure somebody's worked it out somewhere.
< 1726341342 99254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726341344 566027 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1726341346 772963 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it something
< 1726341350 429416 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726341352 62164 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WAIT
< 1726341354 855980 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :WAAAAAIT
< 1726341383 284095 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think ive got a sketch of S
< 1726341387 647819 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :frist take A
< 1726341389 445787 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to a's
< 1726341391 57427 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726341393 139916 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726341413 408803 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from now on ill bne suing normal lambda calculus
< 1726341418 550696 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to demonstarte my point
< 1726341435 914795 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :take a a
< 1726341439 46597 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and a A
< 1726341443 557553 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with a input
< 1726341447 652203 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726341471 823155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λx.(λy. x y)
< 1726341472 824363 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and
< 1726341477 833492 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726341480 755340 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaa
< 1726341489 862795 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726341498 406701 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have an operaotr i like to add
< 1726341501 181312 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726341502 729472 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726341504 405630 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wont work
< 1726341520 114377 :Artea!~Lufia@vps.artea.ovh JOIN #esolangs Artea :Artea ElFo
< 1726341524 601076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuu
< 1726341550 950037 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :λλ(1 0) is one bit of S
< 1726341557 325956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726341558 628285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so we have
< 1726341564 97035 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726341565 328767 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuu
> 1726341578 654271 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Developers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139232&oldid=58335 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
< 1726341593 54332 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my braaaain is fried ._.
< 1726341629 629814 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726341636 627671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i want to se BCKW
< 1726341640 218495 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rlly fast
> 1726341644 99781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DirectBrainFUCK14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139233&oldid=114430 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Implementations */
> 1726341769 603637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139234&oldid=139229 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+68) 10/* operators */
< 1726341782 564323 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726341901 175443 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BCKW makes it more obvious how K and S/W serve those purposes of deleting and copying. BC should hopefully be understandable as a fragment of BCI and not just random combinators.
< 1726341912 452944 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
< 1726341928 476452 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i understand B and C i think
> 1726341952 306233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139235&oldid=139234 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+98) 10/* operators */
< 1726341971 287174 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726341974 653533 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have found B
< 1726341981 965590 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B
< 1726341982 966299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is
> 1726342014 127653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139236&oldid=139235 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+20) 10/* operators */
< 1726342099 320030 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW
< 1726342105 944593 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b' (x i u) a
< 1726342109 131975 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dat B
< 1726342111 65678 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726342198 798123 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and C
< 1726342230 660089 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726342232 700342 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lemme think
< 1726342257 552614 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726342262 864330 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C=B right?
< 1726342278 136103 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :excuse me?!?!?:
< 1726342278 636670 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B x y z = x (y z);
< 1726342279 137404 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C x y z = x z y;
< 1726342284 168987 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that are the same
< 1726342302 90528 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not at all. Remember, parentheses are application.
< 1726342320 991855 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726342322 537546 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726342323 818056 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726342325 891127 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342331 405666 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now im even more fried
< 1726342333 117609 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let's rename those variables. B g f x = g (f x); C f x y = f y x
< 1726342339 361287 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry dis must be a pain
< 1726342351 870760 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342358 554067 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B is composition, like you'd find in a category. It takes two functions and glues them together, passing the output of one to the input of another.
< 1726342371 730836 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342375 134528 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726342377 333649 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1726342382 30013 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C is called a "flip". It takes a two-argument function and swaps the order in which the arguments will be given.
< 1726342392 68890 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342393 397364 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooooo
< 1726342395 585391 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oooo
< 1726342396 777563 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342398 658360 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :okkkkk
< 1726342402 126596 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :makes lot more sense
< 1726342446 492414 :Snufkin!~ismael@189.217.64.239 JOIN #esolangs * :ismael
< 1726342475 496751 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1726342489 472964 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This should also give you a feel for why BCI is limited. All we can do is identity, composition, and flip; we can take any arrangement of inputs and return all of them as outputs, but that's all.
< 1726342526 645473 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726342536 306968 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in BIC
< 1726342540 427871 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you consider the inputs
< 1726342541 970046 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as a set
< 1726342547 747806 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BCI can never do anything
< 1726342549 57354 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726342569 459640 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. It can only express permutations of that set. It is complete for permutations, though.
< 1726342606 454189 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :finnaly
< 1726342611 10865 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my brain is understanding
< 1726342614 97559 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Have you seen Kleene's parameter theorem yet? Also called the Smn theorem. It's a very general statement about how to build functions.
< 1726342628 220020 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726342630 517761 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i havent
< 1726342653 488259 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You need something like BCI, but you also need to be able to delete and copy values. And then Kleene shows how adding recursion lets us compute stuff.
< 1726342717 327853 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726342720 534989 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will make combinators
< 1726342722 685401 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726342725 147206 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so much noiuse
< 1726342759 626551 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries; I don't have anything else. Maybe it's time to take a break. Stand up, stretch, get more water, that sort of thing.
< 1726342782 210706 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kk
< 1726342783 577652 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will do
< 1726342799 876873 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe i should stop listenging to insane trap msuic while doing this
< 1726342801 105407 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :xD
> 1726342867 359748 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emo14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139237&oldid=43122 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
< 1726342892 428856 :Snufkin!~ismael@189.217.64.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1726343006 339533 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok got be
< 1726343008 431175 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C next
< 1726343009 511535 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726343082 623129 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :skip C for now
< 1726343085 80997 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C needed?
< 1726343086 80687 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fr
< 1726343087 81671 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tf
< 1726343113 636158 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726343114 710512 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :W
< 1726343146 713773 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BI can't build C. Really. What's going on is that BI is for categories, and BCI is for categories with "finite products".
< 1726343164 792897 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but in. BCKW
< 1726343166 468714 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :???
> 1726343194 322813 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Extended Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139238&oldid=49019 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Type III */
> 1726343207 152423 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Extended Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139239&oldid=139238 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-12) 10/* Type III */
< 1726343224 91709 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmmm. That's a good question. Note BCKW has to build I too.
> 1726343241 198087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Extended Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139240&oldid=139239 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-52) 10/* Hello World! */
< 1726343282 241386 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So can BKW build I and then C? Dunno, could be an interesting research question.
< 1726343303 198813 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726343395 381612 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :W=a' e ( b' i (a' (d x i y) (d x i y) ) )
< 1726343397 487003 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726343401 869577 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they get LONG
< 1726343413 354936 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726343432 260603 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe BKWI maybe?
< 1726343439 255787 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :could create
< 1726343442 166712 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C?
< 1726343443 686676 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder
> 1726343490 609061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FJ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139241&oldid=135503 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
< 1726343547 78042 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726343548 865174 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we got B
< 1726343551 192834 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :W
< 1726343552 474421 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K
< 1726343553 911879 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I
< 1726343557 1741 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BWKI
< 1726343587 119051 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :W=a' e ( b' i (a' (d x i y) (d x i y) ) )
< 1726343587 618807 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K=
< 1726343592 565561 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B=b' (x i u) a
> 1726343671 924107 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuck414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139242&oldid=32618 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
< 1726343712 50998 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B=b' (x i u) a
< 1726343712 550942 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K=∞' (a i (d x i y))
< 1726343713 51011 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :W=a' e ( b' i (a' (d x i y) (d x i y) ) )
< 1726343716 107874 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yaaaaay
> 1726343726 363345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FukYorBrane14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139243&oldid=54980 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+20) 10
> 1726343736 998637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FukYorBrane14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139244&oldid=139243 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10
< 1726343740 729028 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726343743 896790 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think so
< 1726343760 490704 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you say so. I'm not going to verify this, because I haven't written an interpreter. But I appreciate how much work you put into thinking about things and looking at your foundations.
< 1726343770 923734 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726343780 594109 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx:]!
< 1726343795 424084 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holy s my brain is f'ed
< 1726343799 971325 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with both fried
< 1726343804 46402 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the other f word
> 1726343856 987168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Golfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139245&oldid=68198 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Partial implementation in C++ */
> 1726343861 931037 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139246&oldid=139236 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-17) 10/* operators */
< 1726343872 912145 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726343882 61463 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :c in unlambda is C in BCKW?
> 1726343963 274359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139247&oldid=139246 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+37) 10/* operators */
> 1726343966 47326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Harmful Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139248&oldid=41547 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
> 1726344022 693540 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HQ9Cfuckfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139249&oldid=136625 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
< 1726344032 985970 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726344035 627456 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1726344038 12216 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im vrey happy
> 1726344048 276879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hq9eFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139250&oldid=54535 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
> 1726344088 570302 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139251&oldid=139247 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+18) 10/* operators */
< 1726344123 862593 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye for now
< 1726344129 601304 :wWwwW38!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed
> 1726344230 905478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ITMR14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139252&oldid=123449 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Hello world program */
> 1726344260 483883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07JSFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139253&oldid=126877 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Computational Class */
> 1726344435 660671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbrain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139254&oldid=120611 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
> 1726344535 930584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minimal-2D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139255&oldid=46279 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
> 1726344564 871260 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139256&oldid=79475 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
> 1726344895 890368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139257&oldid=139097 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+111) 10
> 1726344941 300172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139258&oldid=139257 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+40) 10
> 1726345056 314234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Not a brainfuck derivative14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139259&oldid=90069 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
> 1726345217 137135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PainLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139260&oldid=87082 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1726345283 906556 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PenisScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139261&oldid=103699 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
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> 1726355641 457241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spoiler:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139303&oldid=139302 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-15) 10I will come up with more syntax later
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> 1726359432 907087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spoiler:14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139318&oldid=139317 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+111) 10Categories
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< 1726376846 62259 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we discussed stuff with
< 1726376848 474583 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ummm
< 1726376850 512577 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BCKW
< 1726376852 843189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and SK
< 1726376856 219076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you know
< 1726376859 253657 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does order matter
< 1726376866 342104 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do they need to have the order they have
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< 1726377243 649352 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, the orders "BCKW", "BCI", "SK", and "SKI" are all traditional. You'll sometimes see people put them in other orders.
< 1726377264 740795 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
> 1726377265 728391 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Domino Crisis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139337&oldid=135598 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+684) 10To proof that it is Turing-Complete
< 1726377266 157161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i meant
< 1726377270 838006 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you create
< 1726377273 197694 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B
< 1726377275 75702 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this B
< 1726377282 494870 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :take input in this order:
< 1726377289 846486 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :B z y x
< 1726377292 547836 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something
< 1726377293 546862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726377305 452232 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it still does x (y z)
< 1726377316 180220 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but inputs are taken in a different order
< 1726377332 875334 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. It depends on what's available. This is the power of C; in this case, CB is the flip of B.
< 1726377349 408955 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k thx!
< 1726377353 884299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1726377356 891957 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive made progress
< 1726377361 363174 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the savage bapge
< 1726377363 801449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*page
< 1726377373 642065 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nearly everything ids a lambda expression
< 1726377374 641675 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as well
< 1726377381 171956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as that we have rules for what can apply
< 1726377384 916218 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::]
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> 1726377521 244303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139339&oldid=139338 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+103) 10/* Mihai is unbanned! */
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< 1726377611 886037 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i still wonder if BKWI can get C
< 1726377711 445014 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it keeps me up at night
< 1726377713 30419 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726377847 546075 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think so. I thought about it a bit more. BWKI is a theory of categories with finite products and a "diagonal", which is how category theorists talk about W's action.
< 1726377895 781446 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726377925 743286 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And it's folklore that this isn't quite enough to talk about flips, which imply that the product has the ability to swap its left-hand and right-hand components.
< 1726377941 482559 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726377944 791723 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like
< 1726377954 63847 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how even in programming we have "folklore"
< 1726377955 64087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726377965 273226 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know it's not an understandable explanation. I just want to assure you that it's probably not possible so that you don't lose more sleep.
< 1726378023 302444 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol:]
< 1726378080 303650 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i feel like
< 1726378093 169013 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you know how some conjectures n' stuff takes years to proove or stuff
< 1726378094 795443 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in math
< 1726378112 144110 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then there's just dis community with a single person proving that black is TC
< 1726378114 596115 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something else
< 1726378131 308498 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this group of ppl that is the esolang community is just insane
< 1726378142 749449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i feel like
< 1726378159 177701 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Every proven conjecture has some single person somewhere at the end, too. Look at Fermat's Last Theorem for a famous recent example.
< 1726378172 598696 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726378174 987518 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like
< 1726378181 83756 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so many ppl worked on it before
< 1726378185 980364 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like for example
< 1726378195 944831 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive prooved like 90 procent of my esolangs TC
< 1726378204 650935 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, if it helps, most programmers refuse to learn category theory or any other formal methods. Programming and software engineering are depressingly non-formal disciplines.
< 1726378204 685860 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(ignore my old ones)
< 1726378213 146010 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726378227 556307 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726378231 624052 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is dis possible
< 1726378233 588541 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::
< 1726378240 685697 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have a problem
< 1726378272 581180 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and its a undecidable problem to see if that problem is decidable not
< 1726378282 27689 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*deciadeable or not
< 1726378292 528655 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*decidable
< 1726378359 200003 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not exactly. We have to be more precise with terminology.
< 1726378366 386687 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726378375 112262 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will try to be better
< 1726378377 760777 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig
< 1726378383 703415 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :say we have a problem P
< 1726378393 164910 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has properties
< 1726378394 566534 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, it's known statically whether something is a "decision problem". This is literally just a yes-or-no question about some inputs.
> 1726378406 768483 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BrainTangle14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139341 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2880) 10Created page with "BrainTangle is an Esolang invented by PSTF and his (because he don't use ChatGPT now).  == Syntax Overview == === Data Types === BrainTangle only has one data type: a single-character string (a "tangle"). Operations on tangles are performed by manipulating the
< 1726378417 908118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
> 1726378421 202100 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BrainTangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139342&oldid=139341 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10
< 1726378423 942940 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so its bascically
< 1726378439 863819 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If we say this problem is "undecidable", what we mean is that the *set of inputs* is undecidable, and more specifically that we can't decide whether an input is in the yes-set.
< 1726378452 897067 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726378471 972415 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You'll see terminology like "semidecidable" which is more specific about the no-set.
< 1726378484 333682 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726378512 574385 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now, that all said, we can have sets of decision problems. There's no reason we can't have an undecidable subset of such a set.
< 1726378540 116686 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726378736 44728 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here's what I think is a real example from complexity theory. Let P/poly be the class P, but answers to each problem may be non-uniform, giving a polynomial amount of advice to each input.
< 1726378765 505347 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1726378819 226554 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Gd auto level14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139343&oldid=138977 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+33) 10
< 1726378823 343388 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also let TALLY be the class of unary languages. TALLY is a subclass of P/poly. You can think of TALLY problems as counting up the size of the input and making a decision just based on that, so the poly advice just has to tell you whether this size is acceptable.
< 1726378838 471535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726378857 444644 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But, uh, TALLY contains Halting for unary TMs, so it's undecidable whether an arbitrary program in P/poly is also in TALLY.
< 1726378866 725320 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :side qeustion: none of tally are TC right?
< 1726378871 617186 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*question'
< 1726378879 920012 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726378961 529848 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726378970 709038 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so its undecidable
< 1726378975 908805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that problm
< 1726378978 695476 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*problem
< 1726379061 201652 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1726379233 826406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139344&oldid=139329 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+1) 10/* x = not x (boolean, logical) */ Fix missing shift marker
< 1726379880 814653 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1726379889 47190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :KBWS is TC right
< 1726379936 423663 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, because SK is TC.
< 1726379946 762276 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726379958 190053 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i found a little "quirk" if you will with k
< 1726379966 717372 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K can be passed to itself FOREVER
< 1726379973 339579 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :KKKKKKKKKKKKKK....
> 1726380037 143780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07^14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139345 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2222) 10Created page with "'''^''' is a special language for all Chinese people!  == Commands ==  {| class="wikitable" |+ Commands |- !  !! English !! Meaning |- |  "[]" || Print "[text]" || Prints a string of text |- |  [] || Output [variable] || Outputs the value of a variable |- |  [] || Input [var
> 1726380062 963962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139346&oldid=139142 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+59) 10
< 1726380072 353633 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :YES
< 1726380077 113556 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :YESYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYYSYEY
< 1726380079 335237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I
< 1726380083 17894 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :HAVE FOUND
< 1726380084 460754 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :S
< 1726380086 911633 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :AND
< 1726380088 84723 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K
< 1726380098 850608 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :IN Savage Operator
> 1726380106 649430 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139347&oldid=139014 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+14) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1726380186 742165 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139348&oldid=139347 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+22) 10/* S */
< 1726380199 968748 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im very a
< 1726380202 924731 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :happy
> 1726380367 624723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139349&oldid=139340 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+164) 10/* I'm glad about you're "revived" in the Esolang Wiki. */
> 1726380376 336709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139350&oldid=139349 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1) 10/* I'm glad about you're "revived" in the Esolang Wiki. */
> 1726380607 917752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139351&oldid=139344 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+11) 10/* x = not x (boolean, logical) */ Split into `x = not x` and `y = not x`
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> 1726382419 697233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139352&oldid=139351 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+1) 10/* x = x and y (boolean, logical) */ Fix destination classifications
> 1726382584 794984 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:CJK14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139353&oldid=8237 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+19) 10
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< 1726383253 750769 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i could share if ya want
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> 1726384693 270887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139354&oldid=139352 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+33) 10/* x = x or y (boolean, logical) */ Split by destination
> 1726384872 532863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139355 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+5536) 10Created page with "BubbleLang is designed by PSTF.  == Name == I don't know why, but I like this name because I like the shape of circle and sphere.  == Sources of inspiration == I let my  to generate an Esolang, and I inspired from that.  I'm also inspired from Python and C++.  
> 1726385181 129206 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139356&oldid=139354 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (-46) 10Combine z = x or y sections
> 1726385631 441585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139357&oldid=139199 5* 03Xff 5* (+1) 10/* information */
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> 1726385869 857824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139358&oldid=139355 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+29) 10/* Categories */
> 1726385888 292777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Generated by AI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139359&oldid=139152 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+14) 10
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> 1726386460 951650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139360&oldid=127758 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+49) 10/* Esoteric languages invented by AI */
> 1726386750 337031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139361&oldid=139357 5* 03Xff 5* (+175) 10
> 1726386799 269822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139362&oldid=139361 5* 03Xff 5* (+26) 10
> 1726387060 303160 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139363&oldid=139362 5* 03Xff 5* (+0) 10/* information */
> 1726387175 705858 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Srry14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139364 5* 03Xff 5* (+353) 10Created page with "'''srry''' is [[Sorry]] but with one change. == the change == now we only have [] with a conditional. if they hold two nothings(two spaces) then we will do ^ else we will do []. also it pops top. so now [''x''] is:  [ ][''x'']
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> 1726387284 809674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072d14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139365&oldid=136378 5* 03Ais523 5* (-29) 10rm hatnote  similarly named language was renamed
> 1726387311 305551 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Ractangle/2D10]]": cross-namespace redirect left over after a page was deuserfied
> 1726387348 746020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139366&oldid=139090 5* 03Ais523 5* (+14) 10bypass double redirect
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> 1726388142 569180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brains***14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139367 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+23) 10Redirected page to [[Brainshit]]
> 1726388152 642138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brains**t14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139368 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+23) 10Redirected page to [[Brainshit]]
> 1726388248 366026 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainshit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139369&oldid=139325 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-19) 10
> 1726388664 104773 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139370&oldid=139336 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+289) 10/* operators */
> 1726389136 618783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139371&oldid=139138 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+389) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1726389700 860282 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139372 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+26) 10Redirected page to [[Unassignable]]
< 1726390121 717155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got an rlly weird esolang idea
< 1726390126 465804 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its like a 2d esolang
< 1726390129 46262 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like
< 1726390140 809118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it uses combinatory logic style operators
> 1726390169 750359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FrontFlip14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139373 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+312) 10Created page with "'''FrontFlip''' is a version of [[Backflip]] with two new commands  == new commands == there are two new commands: {| class="wikitable" |- ! command !! description |- | [ || copy it and the comand right to it in pointer direction and turn 90 degrees clockwise |- | ^ 
> 1726390175 777949 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FrontFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139374&oldid=139373 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10
> 1726390206 950586 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139375&oldid=139159 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+11) 10
> 1726390235 416850 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Srry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139376&oldid=139364 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+69) 10
< 1726390353 254748 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and korvo if your readin dis my goal is to see what the difference between 2d and 1d is and how far you can go with each
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> 1726390523 757140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF-RLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139378&oldid=66268 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */
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> 1726390827 377473 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139379&oldid=138850 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-204) 10
> 1726390835 641013 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139380&oldid=139379 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World */
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> 1726390872 976443 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139382&oldid=139381 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Examples */
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> 1726390896 384324 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CLFCE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139383&oldid=139382 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Commands */
> 1726390951 107731 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish/Implementations (nonalphabetic and A-L)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139384&oldid=138190 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* CLFCE */
> 1726391175 34463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139385&oldid=139198 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-39) 10fixed the problem with the /* CLFCE */ section
> 1726391343 861768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139386&oldid=139385 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* CLFCE */
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> 1726393049 785875 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139387&oldid=139210 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10/* computational class */
> 1726393058 391801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139388&oldid=139387 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* computational class */
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> 1726394311 540611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139389&oldid=139358 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+3) 10
> 1726394370 776011 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07@NUM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139390&oldid=66248 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* To Do */
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> 1726394696 619877 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0713ial14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139391 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+115) 10Created page with "'''13ial''' (or '''13 instruction assembly language''') is basicly self explanatory. It's a 13 instruction assembly"
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> 1726396568 928934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0713ial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139392&oldid=139391 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+39) 10
> 1726396618 655172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139393&oldid=138968 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+89) 10/* commands */
> 1726396748 693412 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139394&oldid=139356 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+8) 10/* if (x) { code1 } else { code2 } */ Divide different implementations
> 1726396788 691929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139395&oldid=139393 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+87) 10/* commands */
> 1726397174 823939 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139396&oldid=139389 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-29) 10Just inspired from, not really generated by AI
> 1726397249 388255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139397&oldid=139395 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+117) 10
> 1726397310 433253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139398&oldid=137334 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Commands */
> 1726397347 501977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139399&oldid=139350 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+672) 10
> 1726397440 441277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139400&oldid=139398 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10/* Commands */
> 1726397621 635415 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139401&oldid=139400 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-42) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1726397652 440681 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139402&oldid=139401 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-6) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1726397737 525871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139403&oldid=139402 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-98) 10If there is no "End of road". The program will go back to the start (and ignoring the Start of road)
> 1726397848 672746 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139404&oldid=139403 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10IT'S I [[User:Ractangle]]
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> 1726397992 729418 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072 Player14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139405&oldid=139397 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* examples */
> 1726398025 266521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139406&oldid=139394 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+79) 10Consistently separate implementations and format attributions
> 1726398183 524371 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A+B Problem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139407&oldid=139312 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* {{Spoiler|}} */
> 1726398206 854203 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A+B Problem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139408&oldid=139407 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-12) 10/* {{Spoiler|}} */
> 1726398276 828097 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139409&oldid=139310 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-13) 10/* {{Spoiler|}} */
> 1726398295 372715 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139410&oldid=139409 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Spoiler: */
> 1726398306 24986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spoiler:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139411&oldid=139319 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Challenge */
> 1726398358 446809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spoiler:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139412&oldid=139411 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
< 1726398427 879459 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 what do you think of my underload minimazation?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Sorry
> 1726398954 763695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139413&oldid=139360 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+40) 10/* Esolang interpreters generated by AI */
> 1726398987 277137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Use of AI in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139414&oldid=139413 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Esolang interpreters generated by AI */
> 1726399037 510742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Generated by AI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139415&oldid=139359 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10
> 1726399253 912603 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139416&oldid=133988 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* CATEGORIES */
> 1726399361 207818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139417&oldid=139348 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+17) 10
> 1726399501 940969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Noner Kao14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139418&oldid=53977 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+12) 10/* Projects */
> 1726399660 785723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139419&oldid=128486 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+223) 10
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> 1726400002 208346 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139420&oldid=139406 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+4) 10/* x = pseudo-random number */ Divide unrelated implementations
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> 1726400688 550784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139421&oldid=139420 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (-3) 10/* Divmod algorithm */ Fix typos
> 1726400887 6758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139422&oldid=139421 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (-22) 10Remove redundant algorithm from headers
< 1726400984 750616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. There really should be a better word than "illusion" to describe this thing: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/duckduckbunny.png (It is pretty cool (despite the (I assumed) edited clouds in the left part). Haven't watched the video...)
> 1726401067 139866 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuck Python interpreter (ChatGPT)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139423 5* 03Corbin 5* (+145) 10In this page, what does "optimized" mean?
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> 1726401473 181245 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139424&oldid=139422 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+29) 10/* Print value of cell x as number (8-bit) */ Attribute author
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> 1726402591 598448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139425&oldid=139424 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (-46) 10/* Input a decimal number */ Unindent code
< 1726402785 885077 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: hehe, that's similar to the two horse-riders illusion I think
< 1726403053 939648 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :two horse-riders (exists with both donkeys and horses, in lots of variants) => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3z7eIqRg4 
< 1726403055 350058 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut would happen if SKI or something was evaluated lazily
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< 1726403212 827867 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder
< 1726403348 481896 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Maybe today's your introduction to Church-Rosser properties and confluence. In short: no, the results of evaluating combinators don't depend on evaluation order, but that's only because they don't have effects.
< 1726403366 733683 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k!
< 1726403435 742551 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:9b40:2139:2800:2d53:42b9:7c96:d9e1 JOIN #esolangs Thelie :Thelie
< 1726403488 245668 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some strategies will fail to find normal forms when they exist though. KI(SII(SII)) has normal form I but innermost reduction reduces it to itself in a couple of steps.
< 1726403526 828666 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726403533 47284 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726403540 323621 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SII -> SII
< 1726403550 677478 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, SII is a normal form
< 1726403563 516607 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normal form?
< 1726403571 57619 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it can't be reduced further
< 1726403578 226389 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726403579 233326 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726403591 118387 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this context, -> usually denotes an actual reduction step.
< 1726403605 385582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726403677 394537 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
< 1726403696 584322 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SII(SII) -> I(SII)(I(SII)) -> I(SII)(SII) -> SII(SII) using innermost steps
< 1726403707 814101 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tf
< 1726403710 736272 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :infinite loop
< 1726403711 881435 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay
< 1726403718 698691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726403725 972021 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SII(SII) => SII(SII)
< 1726403739 618850 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where => is the "final" reduction
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< 1726403841 575532 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726403865 33296 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would
< 1726403869 106812 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :USI
< 1726403872 613092 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where U
< 1726403876 645869 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is KKx
< 1726403880 325997 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :be TC?
< 1726403887 406776 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is x?
< 1726403893 156517 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726403894 859297 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :U x
< 1726403901 780311 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would be KK x
< 1726403914 550298 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you discard one input
< 1726403925 679483 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and return K on the non discareded one
< 1726403930 848482 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726403933 847331 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So U = KK? That gives you KKI = K so it's essentially just SKI again.
< 1726403946 474866 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :without I
< 1726403957 602352 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :KKS = K then and you get I = SKK
< 1726403969 925895 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726403974 628664 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you dont have K
< 1726403980 425338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have US = KKS = K
< 1726403992 860266 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726404007 144194 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or UU = KKU = K if you prefer that
< 1726404018 415695 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc
< 1726404020 107300 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rlly
< 1726404031 90091 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait so you replace the S with U
< 1726404032 429889 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how
< 1726404034 656641 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok well
< 1726404036 212743 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
< 1726404062 713698 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, Ux = KKx = K for any x.
< 1726404078 15408 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726404080 466087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726404082 100191 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im stupid
< 1726404108 524995 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(sorry for asking so much im rlly into combinatory logic rn)
< 1726404114 110374 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but would RS be TC
< 1726404128 517002 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where R = BKxS
< 1726404132 654805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Be TC?
< 1726404138 907482 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where B is from BCKW
< 1726404158 92806 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :again, what's x?
< 1726404167 990815 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuu
< 1726404170 637851 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im sto stupid
< 1726404183 458814 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :R x = B K x S
< 1726404186 570153 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or
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< 1726404190 733757 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726404200 901635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and no K is not applied to x
< 1726404239 34394 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait yea
< 1726404244 149998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K not applied to x yea
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> 1726404642 386924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuck Python interpreter (ChatGPT)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139426&oldid=139423 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+145) 10
< 1726404646 485704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know about that one.
< 1726404674 451762 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm
< 1726404675 124837 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol @esolangs
< 1726404680 14898 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lemme check real fast
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< 1726405013 136609 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
> 1726405131 56693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you f*** the brain14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139427 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+41) 10Redirected page to [[How dare you fuck the brain]]
< 1726405289 709615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have Rxy = xS which is something you don't get with S alone. But it's weaker than K. It may still be TC but it won't just reuse the fact that SK is TC; some extra work is necessary. It's also not obviously non-TC... AFAICS we don't even know that for the S combinator all by itself.
< 1726405318 389644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, AFAIK
< 1726405365 86385 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im prety sure with the Q operator it would work. Q x y = y x
< 1726405366 917462 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so
< 1726405376 742504 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :QRxy = Sx
< 1726405390 867922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726405405 188157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1726405417 27355 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :remember that QRxy is ((QR)x)y
< 1726405432 688741 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726405434 716558 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :QRxy = xRy... and now it depends on x.
< 1726405448 745452 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then Q(Rxy) = Sx then right?
< 1726405453 156661 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Q(Rxy) = Q(xS) and it still depends on x.
< 1726405466 162794 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaaa
< 1726405545 265824 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Even if you had ꙮxy = Sx and S the status (TC or not) would be unclear to me.
< 1726405567 892619 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ꙮ?
< 1726405571 549678 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why use ꙮ
< 1726405576 812471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`w limerick
< 1726405579 787303 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​limerick//A limerick is a verse with two left metrical feet and three right metrical feet.
< 1726405593 257227 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' ꙮ
< 1726405594 651793 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1125)  A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric."
< 1726405609 524869 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726405609 761053 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`unidecode ꙮ
< 1726405611 443201 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O]
< 1726405631 390927 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ꙮh
< 1726405650 856147 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's our favorite letter. ;-) (I'm making this up, but it's fair to say that we have a bit of culture around it.)
< 1726405666 982594 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726405671 586245 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well i like it
< 1726405686 331478 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im making a esolang based on dis disscusion btw
< 1726405724 430439 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1726405834 554292 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
> 1726405848 59891 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139428 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+258) 10Created page with "'''FROSTWIRE-666''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its some combinators for [[Combinatory logic]] == combinators == FROSTWIRE-666 has these operators:  S from SKI  R x = B (K) x (S)  Q x y = y x  x y=S (K x y)  G x=x x  T x y z=B ( x y) x z"
< 1726405856 248171 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there it is^^
< 1726405856 748898 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^
< 1726405919 672925 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord
> 1726405938 429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139429&oldid=139428 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+13) 10/* combinators */
< 1726405947 434154 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User
< 1726406053 107019 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, would you rather make three dozen esolangs, or one that people actually care about?
< 1726406069 276142 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1726406080 433218 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what time of the day is it?
< 1726406089 470465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726406114 154210 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :????
> 1726406130 518351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139430&oldid=128898 5* 03Rosenthal 5* (+639) 10Ask about strange bitwise NOT
< 1726406132 466607 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :time zones are a thing so I thought this was the best possible answer
< 1726406151 364287 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726406153 227666 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i said'
< 1726406153 346822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's θ?
< 1726406168 35230 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you asked a question with no well-defined answer
< 1726406171 523473 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the answer to your question is dependent on timezone
< 1726406192 320221 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :θ you could see on combinatory page
< 1726406195 788214 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726406200 664935 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :combinatory logic page
< 1726406205 642158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :more combinators
< 1726406219 362180 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Non-primitives
< 1726406221 667379 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :spesifically
> 1726406257 640500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139431&oldid=139429 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+39) 10
< 1726406282 784754 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`datei
< 1726406284 471599 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2024-09-15 13:18:03.701 +0000 UTC September 15 Sunday 2024-W37-7
< 1726406297 568051 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow
< 1726406304 974759 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` TZ="Europe/Helsinki" datei # if you have a specific timezone in mind
< 1726406307 150654 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2024-09-15 16:18:26.283 +0300 EEST September 15 Sunday 2024-W37-7
< 1726406318 457605 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726406333 731044 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also dateu for guaranteed UTC; datei actually uses the locale-dependent timezone, that just happens to default to UTC on HackEso these days
< 1726406350 33206 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :um, no, technically not *locale*-dependent, but dependent on your environment and the fallback default in /etc
< 1726406366 250344 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kkk
> 1726406445 586801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139432&oldid=139431 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-11) 10
> 1726406524 767416 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Eugene14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139433&oldid=139042 5* 03Eugene 5* (+4) 10
> 1726406579 683901 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kin1009 5*  10New user account
> 1726406666 718152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139434&oldid=139375 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+20) 10/* esolangs */
< 1726407116 638451 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Combinatory logic isn't an esolang. In fact, it's not a language. I'd say that a better way to understand it is as a type or a pattern of constructors that can be put on top of types.
< 1726407142 522133 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: If combinatory logic is not a language, what is it?
< 1726407149 648523 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726407152 426288 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig
< 1726407153 953511 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :combinatory logic is multiple esolangs, if you choose a basis and an evaluation strategy then it's a specific esolang
< 1726407165 672886 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also true
< 1726407169 342439 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aw, the RAG bot's not working, I guess.
> 1726407246 32144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Combinatory logic is a **formal model of computation**. It's a way to describe how programs work, not a programming language itself. Think of it like a blueprint for how to build a computer program. It uses a set of rules and symbols to represent computations, and it's powerful enough to capture the essence of any program, even those written in...
> 1726407246 35264 PRIVMSG #esolangs :other languages.
< 1726407252 802679 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like {B,C,K,W,I} as the basis and leftmost inner (eager/unlambda) evolution 
< 1726407291 449013 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1726407304 447511 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: In particular, the terms we've been using the past few days are the *initial model*. All that means is, for any other model, there's a way to map each term into that other model.
< 1726407323 112509 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh
< 1726407334 407112 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but these days I prefer multi-argument instead of single-argument lambdas, which corresonds mostly to the Amicus language instead of traditional Church style combinatory logic
< 1726407349 2786 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, like, suppose I implement S and K in Python. Then I can map any term of S and K into Python using that implementation, and it'll still behave as expected.
< 1726407353 581137 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, Amicus without numbers
< 1726407375 696061 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Like int-e says, "as expected" includes quirks of evaluation order. You have to carefully choose which of U, Y, or Z is your fixed-point combinator.)
< 1726407392 744619 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :UYZ?
< 1726407458 286612 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik about U i think
< 1726407475 263295 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :U, Y, and Z all allow for some sort of recursion. They're very different in appearance, but that's mostly because of evaluation order.
< 1726407488 557337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726407521 576825 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The main point to understand is that U = \(00) in lambda calculus; it applies something to itself. It's the "Turing bird" we talked about the other day.
< 1726407530 753294 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can tell it's important because https://esolangs.org/wiki/Combinatory_logic has a (!!!) next to it!
< 1726407546 765090 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726407554 898929 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl JOIN #esolangs Wryl :Wryl
< 1726407600 678683 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, seriously. Like, consider my beloved https://esolangs.org/wiki/Cammy. Here's one thing I said: "the program (comp dup apply), sometimes called the "Turing bird", will be rejected by the toolchain as ill-typed."
< 1726407622 939063 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726407627 846678 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And at the top: "each expression is an S-expression denoting a total function."
< 1726407650 49718 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because Cammy's total, the toolchain *must* reject the Turing bird.
< 1726407665 301059 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726407673 134526 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you want to be TC, you *must* have a way to build either U or something with similar powers, like Y or Z.
< 1726407681 559276 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's the main point.
< 1726407690 467270 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726407693 95778 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also sorry
< 1726407697 608980 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was kinda confused
< 1726407699 759916 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we above chat
< 1726407707 38800 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where i made *my* U
< 1726407763 859629 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. That's one of the dangers of redefining standard names.
< 1726407782 109461 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just choose a symbol
< 1726407819 101297 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know. If it helps, that's how most of the combinators got standard names in the first place. I have a rule in my head that's like "C is for composition, no wait, C is for flips and B is for composition"
< 1726407842 832803 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ig you could use lol
< 1726407848 781413 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726407851 617226 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :K is for "konstant" and I is "identity" but I have no idea about the others. Smullyan gives them beautiful bird names which are also hard to remember.
< 1726407873 598938 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, B is for Bluebird. Okay, which is...? Even remembering the stories in the book doesn't really help.
< 1726407887 671221 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :symbol for my U: ɭ
< 1726407924 373301 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The actual way to remember B is to look at it as a miniature diagram depicting the composition of two arrows.)
< 1726407934 156666 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726408096 264379 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should document the B-C-K-W-I turing-completeness proof on the wiki at some point. We have https://esolangs.org/wiki/S_and_K_Turing-completeness_proof plus derivations of S and K at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Combinatory_logic#BCKW_calculus which is technically enough for a proof, but there's a direct proof that's somewhat interesting.
< 1726408161 583348 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should formalize some of the reductions. I know it's not hard to write a casual SKI reduction tool, but I don't think there's like a Metamath or Coq database.
< 1726408176 738937 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, uh, *Rocq now, right?
> 1726408238 276020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Combinatory logic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139435&oldid=133777 5* 03B jonas 5* (-8) 10/* BCKW calculus */
> 1726408283 963250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139436&oldid=139396 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+47) 10
< 1726408288 363420 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"The rename is currently in preparation"
> 1726408349 58978 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139437&oldid=138271 5* 03B jonas 5* (+147) 10/* Todo */
< 1726408879 428106 :Thelie!~Thelie@214-110-035-185.ip-addr.vsenet.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1726409044 114854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i made this. doesnt this delete Bsckflip's memory limitation?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/FrontFlip
> 1726409049 944113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FrontFlip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139438&oldid=139374 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
< 1726409472 500385 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: SKI reduction tool => David Madore's unlambda writeup http://www.madore.org/~david/programs/unlambda/#impl explains how to do that
< 1726409540 919832 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i still like how from a set perspective BCI can do nothing
< 1726410221 335447 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1726410285 912078 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello ais
> 1726410483 478751 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:HecknTarnation14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139439 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+136) 10Created page with "wanna make a esolang with me maybe idk ?? [:~~~~:]"
< 1726410704 586686 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Okay, so with careful consideration, I think that it should be *theoretically* possible to compile Unlambda to a graph-reduction machine (as efficient as GHC) after first doing a continuation-passing transformation.
< 1726410840 66488 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it is remarkable how it was an open question just a few decades ago.
> 1726410894 817774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139440&oldid=139371 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+514) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1726410939 920056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139441&oldid=139432 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+27) 10/* combinators */
> 1726411066 10717 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Algorithm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139442 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+809) 10Created page with "== Swap two numbers == 
 function swap(x: int*, y: int*):     var t: int* = x     x = y     y = t 
 Thus makes these things: === Bubble sort === 
 function swap(x: int*, y: int*):     var t: int* = x     x = y     y = t  function bubble_so
< 1726411108 331986 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I'm mostly thinking of the subset without c and d, so basically just ski calculus
< 1726411188 813030 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Ah, sure. There's a fully-worked series of articles on that here: https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/
> 1726411195 834865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139443&oldid=139436 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+49) 10
< 1726411240 779329 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : hey ais523 what do you think of my underload minimazation?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Sorry ← it's not very Underload-like
> 1726411254 50424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139444&oldid=139442 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+15) 10
< 1726411258 848854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726411276 952190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was just an atempt to make the minimal command set smaller
< 1726411301 726407 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what happens if you try to run a command with unmatched brackets?
< 1726411307 723885 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oof
< 1726411312 283802 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need to specify
< 1726411314 491411 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so stupid
< 1726411316 556034 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but umm
< 1726411317 605855 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :error
< 1726411336 96471 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's already a minimization of Underload to two commands here: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#A_two-command_basis_for_a_pure_concatenative_language
< 1726411347 48656 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726411364 270037 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726411365 509709 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726411369 178880 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats 3 commands
< 1726411372 306005 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: even with the c builtin, r5rs is from 1998 so presumably they knew how to implement all that at the point, and unlambda with c (possibly without d) is trivial to compile to r5rs scheme, it has the full lexical local variables, lamdbas, and full call-with-current-continuation
< 1726411375 364567 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the copy push and eval command
< 1726411382 711924 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, it's just M and ^
> 1726411387 209344 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sorry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139445&oldid=139363 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+79) 10/* information */
< 1726411398 134695 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726411400 88815 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OOOO
< 1726411401 503035 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it was known for at least 26 years, I suspect longer
< 1726411401 652948 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fuuuu
< 1726411410 51112 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where M is equivalent to (~)(:)(^)(a)(*)(!!!!!!) in Underload
< 1726411416 17225 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726411420 661731 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im sto STUPID
< 1726411421 661851 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726411421 917157 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it was me who designed that originally
< 1726411424 170606 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*so
< 1726411427 874820 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whe
< 1726411430 868815 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1726411437 120409 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :forget that message
< 1726411462 359421 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: There's a question of efficiency when it comes to "sharing" (avoiding copying) in lazy contexts, and I think Scheme isn't likely to ever really solve this. I don't think typical implementations do much sharing besides lambda-lifting.
< 1726411476 73701 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the positions of most of the commands inside don't really matter, but the (~) being at the start and (!!!!!!) at the end (with length that's enough to pop all the things M pushed, plus 1) is key to how it works
< 1726411487 90971 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726411488 602719 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: sure, scheme and unlambda are non-lazy in the same way
< 1726411490 674470 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But yeah, I see your point. In terms of compiler engineering effort, yes, Unlambda compiles easily to Scheme.
< 1726411506 348655 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i also minimized sorry to srry(on command but very much not underlaod like)
< 1726411518 918802 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I think most interpreters along those lines do the copying lazily and don't have other optimizations
> 1726411562 969770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139446&oldid=139370 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* Turing-completeness */
> 1726411593 554497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139447&oldid=139446 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+11) 10/* Turing-completeness */
< 1726411618 27593 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: wrt combinatoric logic normal forms, I generally think of them being in normal forms if no reduction rules are even possible to apply to the term you have
< 1726411637 750372 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so SII doesn't have a normal form, the way I think about it – you can keep applying reduction rules indefinitely
< 1726411657 327535 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whereas something like K(SI) is a normal form because none of the combinators has enough arguments to do anything
< 1726411677 560991 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is it that so many combinators are named after birds???
< 1726411680 162020 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :turings bird
< 1726411682 445841 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ect.
< 1726411707 772866 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: That'd be the Smullyan book I mentioned earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Mock_a_Mockingbird
< 1726411729 646640 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: No reduction rules apply to SII. You're probably confusing SII and SII(SII)
< 1726411730 373480 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
> 1726411734 227558 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139448&oldid=139443 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+53) 10
< 1726411760 967632 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(SII is what you get from \x. x x by abstraction elimination.)
< 1726411771 818215 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: err, yes, I meant SII(SII)
< 1726411780 99277 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yup, the Mockingbird book which tells about a series of possibly enchanted forests which each have a population of birds closed to application
< 1726411783 237399 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SII is in normal form already, S takes three arguments
< 1726411788 546752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: and yes, SII(SII) doesn't have a normal form
< 1726411795 965916 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And SII actually *captures* it, because SIIx -> x(x))
< 1726411802 262928 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can apply any bird in a forest to any other, and the result is a bird that's also in the forest
< 1726411805 631376 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas wow. ...why tho?
< 1726411812 930772 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was experimenting a lot with BCKW combinator calculus recently
< 1726411815 134792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(with standard definitions from (first-order) rewriting)
< 1726411819 731263 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the forest has every combinator
< 1726411823 742140 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever you call i
< 1726411825 270169 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*it
< 1726411840 748667 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: because if you have a few suitable starting birds, as in S and K, and can distinguish at least two birds, then you get a Turing-complete forest to which you can compile any computation
< 1726411849 115707 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just like SK combinator calculus is neater using I, BCKW combinator calculus is also neater with a couple of extra combinators
< 1726411860 793130 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so one day we (at least the people in that book) might be able to replace computers with birds
< 1726411869 718331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726411887 831268 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one is I, the other is (flip id)
< 1726411905 850273 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You laugh, but some researchers built a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billiard-ball_computer out of crabs.
< 1726411922 354813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1726411923 398538 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why
< 1726411930 577181 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just fricking why
< 1726411939 513608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why not?
< 1726411939 911572 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ppl do some weird stuff sometimes ._.
< 1726411941 41100 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aren't you pumping out dozens of esolangs?
< 1726411948 607809 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726411957 746752 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
< 1726411971 624990 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :me ∈ ppl
< 1726411984 438820 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need the property that you can distinguish two birds otherwise you can never extract any result from the computation,
< 1726411989 2414 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or am i?*plays Vsauce theme*
< 1726411992 843962 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, flip can be defined entirely in terms of (flip id) and (.)
< 1726412002 513816 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my notes say F = A (V V) (A A (A (V A) (A A V))), where F is flip, V is (flip id) and A is (.)
< 1726412021 367071 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas so with a good bird identifier and a lot of birds you have somethign TC
< 1726412022 366754 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726412033 433307 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also define id (unsurprisingly), it's A (V V) (A A V)
< 1726412041 175285 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you need a suitable basis of starting birds to exists otherwise you could get a boring trivial forest that has just unlmabda v and i which can only do boolean multiplication, though Smullyan actually discusses a few forests that are limited in a more interesting way than just that
< 1726412049 32617 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726412060 207087 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Another way to understand what b_jonas is saying is that the final output of a (halted) computer is merely a projection of its internal state.
< 1726412071 183137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :agian true
< 1726412086 95280 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got a full lesson about combinator logic today
< 1726412087 97276 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726412096 942054 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You don't have to be able to read a combinator from the (finitely) many feathers of a bird, merely a way to describe the bird *in terms of other birds*. Smullyan makes this point.
< 1726412115 152533 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the really interesting thing is that I think there's enough power to define K like this, too (although I don't have the definition worked out), using a recursive definition of the form K a b c = K (a c) b
< 1726412120 244435 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the bird forests contain not only halting combinators though, it's really closed to application even if the result of that application is a bird without normal form
< 1726412155 193903 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although that might need some messing around with evaluation order
< 1726412165 272083 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Yeah. In that sense, the birds (and combinatory logic) are actually *generalized* computation. They do more than what our physical computers can actually do.
< 1726412168 123992 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais423: if so then k a b c = k a
< 1726412171 223163 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps it should be K a b c = K (A a c) b so that a c doesn't go into an infinte loop
< 1726412181 730332 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726412183 63263 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, no
< 1726412186 824892 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I got it right first time
< 1726412208 364299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i love how v is recursive
< 1726412209 474044 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the point is that K a b = a (by definition), so K a b c = a c = K (a c) b
< 1726412212 811663 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in unlambda
< 1726412220 365623 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that is why near the end of the book professor Griffin expresses the view that maybe there's a forest that lets you do computations that a Turing-complete computer can't do
< 1726412223 591614 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726412235 642341 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas whyyyyyyyyy
< 1726412244 915861 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there's no definite evidence of that forest
< 1726412254 389736 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why cant we just have TC as being the ,ost powerfull:[
< 1726412256 19366 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726412258 939076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*most
< 1726412425 423900 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also Smullyan is careful enough that the book doesn't say anything about the speed of computation with birds. he says that given two birds in a forest you can find their application in the forest, but no time limit for how quickly you can find it, so it's quite possible that a computation that's slow on a computer is also slow using birds.
< 1726412449 848383 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so there's no reason to think that birds let you do exponentially slow computations quickly.
< 1726412453 782593 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TC≠fast
< 1726412508 474181 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right?
< 1726412543 240701 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :specifically to do an application, you first have to sing the name of the argument word to the function bird, it sings back the name of the application result, and then you have to find the bird of that name. any of these steps could take a long time.
> 1726412570 78745 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Examples14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139449 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2689) 10Created page with "[[BubbleLang]]  == Simple game == 
 from random import randint print("Copyright by Spectre 2012~2024(C)\nAll right reserved.\n") var a = input("Please Input how many life do you have(If you guessing wrong, your life will be leaves 1): ") if a == ""
< 1726412596 507527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church-Turing_thesis encapsulates the idea that there's no "effective method" more powerful than TC. It's necessarily informal.
> 1726412646 592721 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139450&oldid=139448 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+45) 10
< 1726412649 225414 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and, like all important questions, there's a lot of different versions of the Church-Turing thesis that you can choose from
< 1726412650 847420 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The support is basically that people have come up with a handful of different abstract-but-realistic models of computation, and they're all equally powerful.
< 1726412709 661700 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :We have more powerful models too, often involving various oracles that transcend computable functions.
< 1726412724 674694 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726412745 12133 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep, that's why it's called Church-Turing: Church refers to untyped lambda calculus, while Turing refers to finite control with one writable tape Turing machines, these were found to be equivalently powerful
< 1726412760 411725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726412761 412504 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726412804 500910 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then there's whoever is responsible for recursive functions... (Kleene?)
< 1726412859 990775 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Gödel too; he encoded those in PA.)
< 1726412870 164228 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :David Madore has three different educational families of esolangs illustrating Turing-complete computations and computations more powerful than that
< 1726412881 811050 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gödel is very good math person
< 1726412933 687738 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But not the greatest survivor.
< 1726412942 357024 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
> 1726412956 414138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02BubbleLang/Examples10]]": Copyright violation: apparently copy-paste of a copyrighted program written by someone else
< 1726412963 813172 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
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< 1726413530 432545 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im bored and i want to make a esolang. any ideas?
> 1726413548 332135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139460&oldid=139459 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-44) 10Fixed Span Script
< 1726413566 987579 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( go through your pages so far and improve them )
< 1726413577 467108 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
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> 1726444100 541891 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Examples14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139503 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+957) 10I might I need to re-create it, but I'll not to violate the rule.
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 print("So what does "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" meaning?") 
 In this case, the results we hope to get is S
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< 1726581128 519663 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: wut?
< 1726581158 458964 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a thought bubble :-P
< 1726581173 716821 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :??im so confused??
< 1726581197 597944 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, you asked for thoughts.
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< 1726582706 380509 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey can i do some stuff
< 1726582712 166998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on underload page
< 1726582718 31503 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#A_two-command_basis_for_a_pure_concatenative_language
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< 1726582764 798108 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by using (:)^
< 1726582818 942178 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also
< 1726582824 504739 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you do ()?
< 1726582953 294430 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it goes back to the earlier reduced Underload with :()^
< 1726582964 513444 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726582971 694019 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but where is the () in it
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< 1726583054 946913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You get () in pairs from `a`.
< 1726583088 362023 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you can construct any program that has :, ^, and balanced parentheses as a string. And you can execute that using ^
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< 1726583109 411939 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry if im being stupid but im so confused rn
< 1726583111 149186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's why (:) and (^) are on that list but not :.
< 1726583122 534660 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
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< 1726583357 615576 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm... actually, how do you get ()... you'd need an empty string for that.
< 1726583369 21051 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726583405 339648 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if the stack just had that on the top?
< 1726583522 38805 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose you could modify M to have an additional () case.
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< 1726583583 766222 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or maybe there's a reason why () isn't needed but the preceding section uses () quite a bit.
< 1726583753 866725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmm
< 1726585127 796424 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's probably fine though... (~~) can be used instead of () for the most part; the only caveat is that we need to add two dummy elements to the stack at the start.
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< 1726593157 66151 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Digitalmars's D and golang are compiled languages that both have key-value mappings as built-in types. 
< 1726593244 364321 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :When I was young, my master source for phone numbers I know was my dead-tree pocket calendar. These had dedicated empty pages for phone numbers and similar useful notes, often even marked with starting letters. In English you'd call a dead-tree notebook in such a role a "telephone register".
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< 1726593636 910536 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C++ has deprecated and later removed the old "register" keyword, which used to be a storage class specifier in old C, but turns out to be no longer useful. I think at some point they considered to use it for C++ modules, but it doesn't seem like that's happening.
< 1726593645 464199 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: draw your own conculsion
< 1726593645 867504 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: fnord damaged by attempts to move it. ( btw i was talking about rscheme there.
< 1726593888 183444 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: With regards to lambda calculus, what is a De Bruijn index?
> 1726593898 349428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: A De Bruijn index is a unique identifier for a variable in a lambda calculus expression. It's essentially a way to represent a variable's position within a function's arguments. Think of it like a label for each variable, allowing you to track its usage and position within a complex expression.
< 1726594011 653327 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What's the difference between the DeBruijn programming language and De Bruijn indexing?
> 1726594089 322209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: DeBruijn is the programming language, while De Bruijn indexing is a way to represent data in the language. DeBruijn indexing uses a system of "De Bruijn indices" to represent data. These indices are numbers from 0 to 9, and they are used to represent data in a way that is similar to how we use numbers in mathematics. DeBruijn is a functional...
> 1726594089 326825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :programming language that uses De Bruijn indices to represent data.
< 1726594162 440661 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not too bad. It sounds like it's using slightly older versions of pages; maybe the RAG database is a copy of the live database?
< 1726594207 152785 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1726594224 51136 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: you can create, e.g., ((a)!) if you need an empty string
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< 1726594702 259656 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didn't know there's a DeBruijn programming language. I only know the one called bruijn  ( https://bruijn.marvinborner.de/ )
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< 1726595021 436485 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: De Bruijn index is a way to identify a variable in lambda calculus with its depth in the stack from the stack top, so the same binding will have different De Bruijn indexes in different places depending on how many lambdas deep below that you are. 
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< 1726595098 65338 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: see https://esolangs.org?curid=8360 for the most well-known language that uses De Bruijn indexes to identify its variables
< 1726595131 19313 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn
< 1726595141 700981 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't BLC a better known language?
< 1726595376 139694 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bacon lettude calculus? it might be.
< 1726595389 957923 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lettuce
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< 1726597283 605816 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: there's no !
< 1726597305 951299 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1726597358 888568 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: That particular construction targets the :^() fragment. But it uses ~ as an auxiliary operation so that's also available.
< 1726597361 236381 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Oh, sweet, thanks for pointing this out. I missed it last night.
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< 1726597405 554424 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tromp: Yeah, I've found like half a dozen small languages that are merely syntax over LC, including a couple that are just BLC with decoration.
< 1726597408 534791 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :( :^()  is happier than :()^ )
< 1726597514 418270 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Actually I don't know what you're saying.
< 1726597565 416290 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sorry. Okay, yes that's a program fragment that is effectively a no-op.
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< 1726597624 818715 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: So yeah you're right, that works.
< 1726597814 915748 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sorry. No, it doesn't work because we're building a program as a string and the only symbols we have available as strings in the M^ derivative are :()^~ ...I lost track of the goal.
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< 1726598380 394098 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can just similarly make another unlambda combinator similar to M but that provides more builtins, including ordinary and parenthisized and versions of all commands, so that you can assemble any string using that combinator and application, right?
< 1726598429 126002 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah you could modify M so that it produces () as an extra case
< 1726598484 346097 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: if you look at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#A_two-command_basis_for_a_pure_concatenative_language you'll see that this is the underlying idea
< 1726598540 907082 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :M = (~)[any list of primitives](!...!)
< 1726598566 525350 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with just enough ! that M^ acts as !
< 1726598571 520481 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't mean () but rather make it produce each of (^), (:), (!), (~), (*), (a), (S), and then you can combine those using * and a to get any string
< 1726598667 645300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't understand how that's different from what it does except that it doesn't have *all* those primitives but strives to have a minimal set of them instead.
< 1726598712 428082 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, that's the difference that I mean
< 1726598724 726357 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Oh, by the way, if you have any ideas for [[De Bruijn indexing]], feel free to improve it. It's an infamously difficult topic and I know my wording is pretty bad.
< 1726598741 660125 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm here to write legally distinct public-domain text that isn't plagiarized, not to write good text.
< 1726598749 606487 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this way you don't have to compile to an inefficient :()^ underload program, but can compile to any normal sane underload program
< 1726598768 25999 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Adding () would give you ()a as a way to construct (()). Which is the thing that's missing compared to the :()^ fragment.
< 1726598799 871850 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, you can add that too
< 1726598804 905164 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah I don't care about efficiency.
< 1726598829 367510 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this context.
< 1726599005 109319 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, you actually already have (^), (:), (~), (a), (*) easily constructable from the M on the wiki page, so only (!) is missing, and I think you can extract the (!!!!!!) and then construct ((~)(~)(~)(~)(~)!!!!!!) from that and that's basically a (!)
< 1726599020 121864 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I think the original M is already complete except for the S builtin
< 1726599303 198438 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Oh. Yes, that'll work.
> 1726599806 80587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139644&oldid=139633 5* 03Int-e 5* (-48) 10/* A two-command basis for a pure concatenative language */ document idea by [User:b_jonas]
> 1726600200 490920 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139645&oldid=139644 5* 03Int-e 5* (+149) 10/* A two-command basis for a pure concatenative language */ continuing idea by [User:b_jonas]
< 1726600258 758627 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Hmm, what's the timeout for users that don't want to be remembered when logging in? I'm not sure if that's what I'm running into, but if I am, it's rather short.
< 1726600266 22400 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
< 1726600300 945908 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think that just means until your browser exits. cookies have such a flag. 
< 1726600312 992347 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the timeout shouldn't differ.
< 1726600314 737705 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well I lost three edits to something and had to do them over.
< 1726600339 246727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :With cookies, without javascript, and without checking the "remember me" box.
< 1726600398 606894 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh great another detail I lost. One more edit...
> 1726600427 690756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Underload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139646&oldid=139645 5* 03Int-e 5* (-14) 10/* A two-command basis for a pure concatenative language */ (~) is not used anymore
< 1726600458 326696 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Anyway, great idea, thanks!
< 1726600493 678551 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :obvious in retrospect... but that's often how it goes.
< 1726601097 623515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: at least in Firefox, the back button will reclaim your partially written edit – are other browsers worse in that respect?
< 1726601193 3747 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: did you miss that the construction can also create (a) and (*) (the same way as creating a and *, but without the ^ at the end)?
< 1726601211 283888 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you get the :~!()a*^ fragment, which is the entire language except for I/O
< 1726601238 302526 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't exactly miss that, no.
< 1726601274 284491 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could make I/O work by putting the entire ASCII table inside M, but that would be a bit inelegant (the way Underload strings can be treated as either strings or functions is already a bit inelegant, except for writing quines)
< 1726601326 345496 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it appears that ! is more valuable than a and * though.
< 1726601409 179988 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Also Firefox lost that particular edit, presumably because I wasn't considered "logged in" when I went back, so it gave me "view page" instead of "edit page".
< 1726601439 517785 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, that might explain it
> 1726603000 996739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139647&oldid=91571 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
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> 1726603705 688986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DetailedFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139651&oldid=131467 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Interpreter */
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> 1726604384 78196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139655&oldid=139588 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+308) 10/* What? */
> 1726604721 728994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02An esolang inspired by a mobile game engine by the name of Castle10]] to [[Dish]]
> 1726604721 757144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Talk:An esolang inspired by a mobile game engine by the name of Castle10]] to [[Talk:Dish]]
> 1726604828 20908 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139660&oldid=139656 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1749) 10Replaced content with "{{Stub}} '''Dish''' (or '''D'''ead f'''ISH''') is a [[deadfish]] inspired esolang created by [[User:Ractangle]]"
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> 1726605515 158273 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139663&oldid=139662 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+107) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1726606279 773101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139669&oldid=139668 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+73) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726606400 625729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139670&oldid=139669 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+55) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726606548 664529 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139671&oldid=139670 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10/* Examples */
> 1726606808 665087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139672&oldid=139671 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+40) 10/* The powers of two */
< 1726606830 155643 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I believe there's some sort of weirdness around the state storage that I've never really figured out.
< 1726606881 502624 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Specifically, the configuration I inherited sets $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL, and we don't set $wgSessionCacheType. According to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSessionCacheType "[i]f $wgMainCacheType is set to CACHE_ACCEL and this is left at its default CACHE_ANYTHING, the cache used may not meet these requirements."
< 1726606956 29490 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I think it's quite possible there's a certain degree of luck involved in whether you stay logged in or not, depending on the whims of the web server, PHP, and other things of that nature.
< 1726607066 538327 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Potentially I should set $wgSessionCacheType to CACHE_DB to use the database for persistent session storage, though I don't know if that has some performance implications.
< 1726607091 205925 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Because I've definitely been unexpectedly logged out from the wiki as well.)
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< 1726607380 980130 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How to make in C, that the end of a structure must be aligned (in the definition of the structure)?
> 1726607683 88669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139674&oldid=139673 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+121) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726607757 887895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139675&oldid=139674 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10/* Syntax */
< 1726607839 529496 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: just the end, or both the start and end?
< 1726607885 335881 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally you get both the start and end to be aligned, since that's what the C compiler directly supports, and that way the structure works aligned in an array; I don't think you can make a partial structure that has alignment but doesn't fill out whole aligned blocks
< 1726607888 170131 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would think that the start would already be aligned if necessary
> 1726607922 981290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139676&oldid=139675 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+117) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1726607987 244601 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139678&oldid=139677 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+14) 10/* Syntax */
< 1726608006 914053 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do not mean in an array, though; I mean that if you put something at the address of the end of the structure, that it will be aligned regardless of what you put there (e.g. using malloc and memcpy, or something else like that)
< 1726608212 419192 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: in any case, in modern C you `#include ` then put `alignas(32)` before the first data member in the struct type definition, replace 32 with the number of bytes that you want to align to. this makes that particular member aligned to at least 32 bytes, and as a consequence it also makes the start and end of the struct aligned to 32 bytes, with extra padding in the struct if necessary
< 1726608270 744098 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in earlier C you can sometimes use a compiler-specific attribute that works similar to alignas, or use a union with a built-in or library type that has the necessary alignment
< 1726608275 544158 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I want the same alignment as malloc.
< 1726608299 995986 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's also `alignas (max_align_t)`, which I imagine should match `malloc`.
< 1726608343 335403 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK
< 1726608403 74017 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if I have that on my computer though
< 1726608474 894440 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :References: `malloc` returns memory that is "suitably aligned so that it may be assigned to a pointer to any type of object with a fundamental alignment requirement" (C11 7.22.3p1); a /fundamental alignment requirement/ is "an alignment less than or equal to the greatest alignment supported by the implementation in all contexts, which is equal to `_Alignof (max_align_t)`" (C11 6.2.8p2).
< 1726608485 729847 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: for max_align_t you need to `#include ` and (either use `-std=c11` or some similar compiler option, or define the correct feature request macro before you include anything)
< 1726608600 434586 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, I will try
< 1726608614 761358 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you probably just want `-std=c11` or some higher compiler option, since you want the alignas keyword too, rather than the compiler-specific stuff, unless you're editing the rare old C source that you can't easily port to be C11-compatible (eg. because it calls prototype-less functions or declares functions without return type) 
< 1726608895 328408 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also had some ideas of a variant of C programming language. I might be able to add extra steps before and after the preprocessor, but some things I would want to not have to do separately than the parser because I might want to e.g. handle custom members in structures, and to substitute when the C preprocessor reads files as input, etc. Can this be done without rewriting the entire compiler?
< 1726609403 945839 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Some such features can include: scoped macros, aliased definitions, custom definitions in structures, TRON strongs, etc)
< 1726609453 687694 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1726609516 715046 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: on extra steps before and after the preprocessor, see https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-09.html#lnrb
> 1726609544 617375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139679&oldid=128498 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+1387) 10test
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< 1726609616 979102 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically you can ask the compiler to do the preprocessing and the rest of the compilation separately. you should just usually make sure to pass mostly the same options to the preprocessing, compiling, and linking steps, unless you have a good reason to make the flags differ, because some options can influence all three steps, eg. define some predefined macros which can influence libraries to detect them
< 1726609777 257410 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in particular, both the preprocessor and compiler needs to know whether you're compiling C or C++, the language version of C or C++, the target CPU and even instruction set extensions, target operating system, whether threading is enabled, etc
< 1726609794 844028 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know I can do that, but some things might be difficult to implement in this way, such as to modify the included files that are read by the preprocessor
< 1726609873 251216 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, that's harder
< 1726609935 472762 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had considered using -wrapper and -no-integrated-cpp to make all of the switches correct when wanting to add extra steps, although that only handles that part of it.
< 1726609957 444485 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's at least an option to make the preprocessor show which files it's included, with full path, that can be helpful
< 1726610068 674413 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The preprocessor will complain about unrecognized directives though, so that will need to be handled before the preprocessor reads the files, so then it might be necessary to handle #include separately
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< 1726613557 399330 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fi-nally. I completed A Monster's Expedition (using the built-in hints for the last two snowmen)
< 1726613646 158969 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I like those hints; they point to islands that you should focus on to make progress, which given the semi-open world nature of the game helps quite a bit.)
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> 1726619321 834006 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Reverser14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139685 5* 03BestCoder 5* (+468) 10Created page with "my own reversible language == commands ==  out: output  tuo: remove this from the output  inp: input  pni: undetermined so noop  loop N c E: loop the following  E c N pool: still loop  stop: stop  pots: start  start: start  trats: stop  inc: increment  cni: decrement 
< 1726622793 691176 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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< 1726630520 458036 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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> 1726633906 81133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Icebox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139692 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+3525) 10My first esolang!
> 1726633974 482953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Icebox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139693&oldid=139692 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (-28) 10According to esolang standards, this isn't a joke language
> 1726634107 894725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139694&oldid=139576 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+54) 10add IceBox
< 1726634329 826810 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : (Because I've definitely been unexpectedly logged out from the wiki as well.) ← I have a remember-me login cookie set, and have never been unexpectedly logged out, but I often get a "We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data" message, and need to resubmit the edit
< 1726634349 649338 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my guess is that it's the same problem, but different symptoms due to the different remember me setting
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> 1726635225 232414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C-414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139695 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+1378) 10Created page with "'''C-4''' is a revolutionary programming language designed to bring self-destruction to a whole new level. Unlike traditional languages that merely execute code, C-4 goes a step further by ensuring that both itself and any program you attempt to run are promptly ann
> 1726635287 259118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139696&oldid=139631 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+148) 10
> 1726635426 913887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DifferentDance814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139697&oldid=139513 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+108) 10
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> 1726637485 615742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Tweak14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139698 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+122) 10Created page with "how are commands changed??? [:~~~~:]"
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> 1726640931 997506 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Icebox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139699&oldid=139693 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Example Programs */
> 1726640962 993681 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07C-414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139700&oldid=139695 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Author's Note */
> 1726641066 15795 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Deadfish derivatives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139701&oldid=116864 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1726641126 93835 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Deadfish derivatives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139702&oldid=139701 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+41) 10
> 1726641245 778822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Deadfish derivatives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139703&oldid=139702 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+85) 10
> 1726641550 68320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139704&oldid=82115 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
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> 1726641856 344916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enterprise14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139705&oldid=79655 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* References */
> 1726642373 922713 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FIFOrth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139706&oldid=85666 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* What is FIFOrth */
> 1726642422 398448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FIFTH14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139707&oldid=31178 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10
> 1726645164 922615 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ftack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139708&oldid=34507 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Computational class */
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> 1726645627 342483 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category theory14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139709&oldid=104265 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+35) 10Generalize "sets" to "objects"
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> 1726646888 67919 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bubblegum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139710&oldid=139640 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+12) 10
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> 1726648173 854686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuck-brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139711&oldid=122183 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Python */
> 1726648559 895425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FunctionsFTW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139712&oldid=114083 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-5) 10/* Implementation */
> 1726649245 446600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07@!+-()14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139713&oldid=138282 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+54) 10
> 1726649271 548253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03PkmnQ 5*  10moved [[02@!+-() Turing-completness Proof10]] to [[@!+-() Turing-completeness Proof]]: Misspelled title
> 1726649356 731988 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A programming language is a system of notation for writing computer programs.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139716&oldid=131460 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+226) 10
> 1726649368 847047 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A programming language is a system of notation for writing computer programs.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139717&oldid=139716 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+4) 10/* See also */
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> 1726653400 139849 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139719&oldid=117844 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* See Also */
> 1726653568 597710 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:2KWLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139720&oldid=139641 5* 03None1 5* (+618) 10/* Comparison operators */
> 1726653654 733015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:2KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139721&oldid=139720 5* 03None1 5* (+138) 10/* Comparison operators */
> 1726653750 356944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Gift14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139722&oldid=139591 5* 03None1 5* (-2) 10
> 1726653792 124426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139723&oldid=131692 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+46) 10
> 1726653825 488156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139724&oldid=139723 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Implementations */
> 1726653867 143963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gift14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139725&oldid=139484 5* 03None1 5* (+47) 10/* Examples */
> 1726654350 486944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gift14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139726&oldid=139725 5* 03None1 5* (+419) 10/* Examples */
> 1726654367 95011 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gift14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139727&oldid=139726 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10
> 1726654374 683963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[078ial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139728&oldid=139572 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726654406 323028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[078ial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139729&oldid=139728 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1726654427 225933 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139730&oldid=139573 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10/* 8ial */
> 1726655010 180016 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HQ9+2D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139731&oldid=91569 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Interpreters */
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> 1726655423 176835 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Huby14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139732&oldid=90263 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* External resources */
> 1726655767 427965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I hate your bf-derivative really I do14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139733&oldid=69678 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Hello, World! */
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< 1726656166 902156 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in VBS, &HF000 is a 16-bit integer literal with negative value, so if x is a 32-bit integer then (&HF000 And x) won't just extract four bits of x, it will extract the top 20 bits, because &HF000 widens to &HFFFFF000&. I have to write (&HF000& And x) instead to extract just four bits. I knew this in theory but it's such an easy mistake to make, and
< 1726656167 402211 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wasted an hour trying to debug it yesterday, gave up, then spent an hour today to finally find the bug.
< 1726656226 851079 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so just in case you want to know why in C, 0x7FFFFFFF has type int but 0x80000000 has type unsigned int, now you know, it's to avoid this exact stupid bug
< 1726656510 603896 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :mind you, you can still make this mistake in C: (0xF<<24 & x) is fine but (0xF<<28 & x) will extract the top 36 bits because 0xF<<28 is a signed int with negative value
> 1726656656 852811 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interdemento14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139734&oldid=59448 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Basics */
> 1726656691 617417 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interfrac14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139735&oldid=96976 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
> 1726656921 218077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139736&oldid=106518 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* See also */
> 1726656953 316668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IsThatAMotherFrickingSpecificAnimeReferenceLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139737&oldid=79200 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* External resources */
> 1726657062 912282 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Javascular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139738&oldid=82415 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* 5 is greater than 2 */
> 1726657157 186865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Keys14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139739&oldid=75849 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Implementations */
> 1726657185 238615 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:King Ethan14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139740&oldid=91220 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Interpreter */
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> 1726659593 767514 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139742&oldid=137780 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10/* Etymology */  According to the formal pronounciation, using syllables instead of IPA, the e should pronounce a long vowel /i/
> 1726660190 756191 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07L.H.O.O.Q.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139743&oldid=59344 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* External resources */
> 1726660202 832010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07L.H.O.O.Q.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139744&oldid=139743 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* External resources */
> 1726660260 446682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LAIDBACK14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139745&oldid=31180 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10
< 1726660399 604344 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`(0xF<<28 & x)` also triggers UBSan warning, since it's technically undefined.
< 1726660401 791359 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​(0xF<<28? No such file or directory
< 1726660405 128097 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :("runtime error: left shift of 15 by 28 places cannot be represented in type 'int'")
< 1726660413 629307 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I forgot about ` being a prefix. :/
< 1726660513 744016 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here's a funny semi-obscure C89-to-C99 difference:
< 1726660517 828606 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :22:00  ,cc -w -m32 -std=c89 printf("%d", 2147483648 > -1 ? 1 : 1000000);
< 1726660519 777502 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :22:00  fizzie: 1000000
< 1726660521 778902 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :22:00  ,cc -w -m32 -std=c99 printf("%d", 2147483648 > -1 ? 1 : 1000000);
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< 1726660615 477678 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In C89, an unsuffixed decimal constant had the first type that can represent the value out of `int`, `long`, `unsigned long`; in C99 that was changed to `int`, `long`, `long long`, dropping the unsigned option.
> 1726660701 717621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Len(language,encoding)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139746&oldid=40884 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Example Hello World program */
< 1726660742 672111 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's also maybe a little bit of a gotcha that changing a constant from decimal to octal/hexadecimal can change its type.
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> 1726661306 289763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Len(language,encoding)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139747&oldid=139746 5* 03None1 5* (+51) 10/* Example Hello World program */
> 1726661324 332714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OCPL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139748&oldid=122074 5* 03None1 5* (+55) 10/* See also */
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> 1726663849 237354 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolfText14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139750 5* 03None1 5* (+4339) 10Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1|f=an esolang designed to output repetitive text using shorter code.}}  ==Syntax== It is just [[text]], but LZMA compressed! ==Examples== ===[[99 bottles of beer]]=== 
 FD 37 7A 58 5A 00 00 04 E6 D6 B4 46 02 00 21 01 16 00 00 00 74
> 1726663966 714841 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Licorne14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139751&oldid=45096 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Hello world */
> 1726664196 70545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LOLScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139752&oldid=36360 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Examples */
> 1726664335 793047 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Magritte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139753&oldid=93975 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* External resources */
> 1726664723 807372 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Error quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139754 5* 03None1 5* (+1636) 10Created page with "An '''error quine''' is a type of [[quine]] where the source code is printed as an error. ==How to write an error quine== Writing an error quine is much easier than writing a quine, you follow these steps: # Smash random keys on your keyboard. # Feed the error to the 
> 1726664747 327238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139755&oldid=112375 5* 03None1 5* (+18) 10/* See also */
> 1726664768 767963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139756&oldid=139619 5* 03None1 5* (+18) 10/* My Articles */
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> 1726667880 818709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolfText14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139759&oldid=139750 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* NOP */ percent not bytes
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> 1726668144 384406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Never Gonna Give You Up14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139762&oldid=138113 5* 03None1 5* (+50) 10
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> 1726668654 58152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Titanium14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139763 5* 03Alx 5* (+22174) 10Created page with "
Instruction Set Architecture
 This page is unfinished!!!  W32 Titanium (formerly serialized as ua-w32-titanium#nf) is a 32-bit architecture written by [[User:Alx]] with native support for data width up to 128 bits, initially written as an extension to
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> 1726668690 624770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Titanium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139765&oldid=139763 5* 03Alx 5* (+37502) 10
> 1726668712 924319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Never gonna give you up14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139766 5* 03None1 5* (+37) 10Redirected page to [[Never Gonna Give You Up]]
> 1726668722 822845 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Titanium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139767&oldid=139765 5* 03Alx 5* (+27566) 10
> 1726668754 180042 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Titanium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139768&oldid=139767 5* 03Alx 5* (+37279) 10
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< 1726673829 226922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this doesn't seem to compute anything
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< 1726673891 843981 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why should it do computation?
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< 1726679373 778504 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*should not
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< 1726682405 125606 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :How would you, say, add 1 and 2 in that language?
< 1726682432 603733 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk. but i could ask the same thing about idk conways game of life
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< 1726682551 122243 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but even then
< 1726682561 811976 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even a infinite loop is computation
< 1726682570 133858 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but how much computation can it do?
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< 1726682667 361747 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :People much more clever than me have figured out how to do addition and various other fun stuff in Game of Life.
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< 1726682685 266149 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what im trying to say is
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< 1726682708 127860 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also nobody can say: "oh yea how could THIS do computation????"
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< 1726682771 307040 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe it's possible, yeah. That's why I'm asking. :-)
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< 1726682788 625154 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726682800 203316 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a person i asked said it prop was
< 1726682806 499520 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Seems to me that you'd need to figure out how to compute things in it before being able to say anything about the computational class.
< 1726682815 15866 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726682840 923827 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have made a looping counter already
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< 1726682896 878317 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ñ
< 1726682897 377030 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :===
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< 1726682898 377473 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs : õ
< 1726682914 297932 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :coutning number of spaces
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< 1726682963 361335 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and increments every iteration
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< 1726683043 330104 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Trying to understand the rules. So the turtle moves to the right. Then there's a bug under it, and it has spaces on both sides. So shouldn't the turtle eat the bug and the program terminate?
< 1726683051 304283 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no down
< 1726683053 55305 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...?
< 1726683056 35815 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :> if there are space to the both left and right AND the below space is a space it will move down into it
< 1726683057 833562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : :1:103: error:
< 1726683057 936466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :     parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
< 1726683073 309896 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726683075 964841 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bug
< 1726683082 930509 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the way the bug moves
< 1726683093 955681 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm
< 1726683108 474863 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the bug is defenitly needed
< 1726683115 582376 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :So what does the situation look like after one move?
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< 1726683123 390862 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in what
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> 1726691304 631504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5*  10moved [[02Icebox10]] to [[IceBox]]: Fix capitalisation
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< 1726696422 382595 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In DOS, Windows, and UNIX, a program's arguments are always a sequence of strings (C strings in the case of UNIX), and there are environment variables, etc. I had thought to make a better way that one of the forks of a program file indicates what type of initial message it expects. (At the low-level it is only a sequence of bytes and/or capabilities, but meanings are caused by higher level codes.)
< 1726696486 986863 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The types might be: null, tagged union, structure, integer, floating point, C string, Pascal string, typed arrays, capabilities, typed capabilities. etc. (There are also further variants, e.g. signed vs unsigned integers, and different sizes of integers (including variable size).)
< 1726696668 701276 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you have other comments about this, including other details about the types?
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< 1726698689 32618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think taking capabilities as input is the most important part – that makes it possible for programs to state exactly what OS/privileged resources they're going to access
< 1726698753 441412 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in fact, I think that it would be correct for the shell to translate command-line arguments to capabilities using a standard convention, e.g. if you write a filename you get a capability to access that file, which is normally read-only, but using the -o option makes it write-only instead
< 1726698753 495364 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that is one of the most important parts of my operating system design. (All programs must receive at least one capability as input otherwise it cannot do any I/O.)
< 1726698792 711277 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there needs to be some way for users to specify numerical and string options, etc., but I don't see an advantage from having the shell/OS translate them to different sorts of string or integer
< 1726698802 70920 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can just pick a standard format and have the program translate, if it needs to
< 1726698822 399729 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe using just capabilities and strings is best
< 1726698822 980204 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The use of the type of initial message should make it unnecessary to work that way; instead the command shell works much like other programming languages that have data types.
< 1726698848 80811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you might want to look at Microsoft's PowerShell – IIRC it's a shell with typed command-line arguments (although it doesn't use capabilities)
< 1726698928 811136 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I have seen it.
< 1726698947 633537 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a while ago I worked out a capability system in which there were four different relationships a program could have with a class of capability
< 1726698997 739089 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we can already pass open file descriptors to a process we exec, thus giving it the capability to read, or read and write, or append to the file. I've used that a few times, passing the number of the file descriptor in a command-line option to tell the program how to use which descriptor. Bash even has some nice syntax support for this, more of it in recent versions.
< 1726698998 774467 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a) it could grant itself the capability, even without being given the capability from outside; b) it inherited the capability from the program that ran it; c) it didn't have the capability by default, but could gain it by interacting with the user or a higher-privilege program; d) it couldn't gain the capability by any means
< 1726699021 894182 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yes
< 1726699040 802206 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, some programs get confused if you call them with a set of open FDs other than exactly 0, 1, 2
< 1726699064 72219 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :open FDs are an obvious way to implement capability passing, when the capabilities give access to a file or directory
< 1726699126 300345 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, sometimes they erroneously pass them on to programs that they spawn, but this happen less if the program is explicitly designed to take descriptors this way than if you just try to pass --some-option=/dev/fd/$foo {foo}<$filename to a program that normally expects a filename
< 1726699162 491329 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I think on Linux it would be possible to set up a syscall filter so that programs couldn't access files except by using existing FDs, and couldn't go upwards from existing directory FDs (basically you deny file-opening APIs other than openat2 and force it to use arguments that prevent going upwards)
< 1726699203 713208 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's also the ergonomic issue of people normally writing "more filename" rather than "more < filename"
< 1726699204 834788 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In my design, the only way for a program to receive a capability is to receive it from a message, which is either the initial message or a message received through another capability. Furthermore, capabilities are not distinguished from proxy capabilities; many features will use proxy capabilities and you can pass a different one than the one expected and the program will try to use it.
< 1726699216 806039 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the issue of commands that take variable numbers of input files
< 1726699219 423770 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The low-level system knows nothing about types)
< 1726699233 772634 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do agree that a proxy capability system is necessary
< 1726699285 111987 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I think you can do that by file system namespaces, so that the program sees nothing mounted other than what you really want to pass. similarly you can use network namespaces so it can't access network except possibly a specific local or tunnel network that you use to communicate with it, or through sockets that you pass into it
< 1726699285 682878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you aware of the Linux command/syscall unshare(1)/unshare(2)?
< 1726699317 265732 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: in effect that is setting up a container – it would work but might be overly complicated? or might not be
< 1726699349 384230 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think, e.g., programs should be able to put up a Save As dialog box and save to any location that the user specifies, if the user has access to write there
< 1726699394 698995 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they should get the capability to do that "from the user", implemented via a program that asks the user where to save and manufactures capabilities to write to that location
< 1726699403 920226 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(sort of like sudo on a much lower-permissioned level)
< 1726699404 372534 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: unshare(2) yes, that's one of the underlying syscalls for setting up namespaces; no for unshare(1)
< 1726699417 857189 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unshare(1) is fun
< 1726699449 221014 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's basically just a wrapper around unshare(2) but it makes screwing around with namespaces very easy
< 1726699474 282597 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think of it like a proxy capability system, in that it can give the program capabilities within the container that the user running it doesn't have outside the container
< 1726699492 177651 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :My design does not have directory structures and file names, so there is no such thing a a "Save As" dialog box; however, for a more usual system you can implement Save As in the way that you describe it makes sense.
< 1726699492 396504 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I think it's rare, normally you want clone(2) to set up namespaces instead. I wonder if there's a higher level wrapper that's like posix_spawn but supports that and more.
< 1726699535 410535 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even really understand why unshare(2) exists really, but there's probably some niche use for it.
< 1726699570 315745 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's so that a program can sandbox itslef
< 1726699575 422721 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as opposed to sandboxing a child process
< 1726699758 611744 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that would be why unshare exists, although I think that it is going to be more complicated and messy than a purely capability-based system, that does not have name spaces and the other stuff like that.
< 1726699867 885514 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by the way as for clone, do you found it funny how pre-pthreads linuxthreads caused Linux to obsolete the orignal exit system call with a new call group_exit which _exit now calls, because the exit syscall has to be binary compatible with programs using old linuxthreads. Like, I understand why some system calls like lstat or statfs or getdents have like four binary incompatible generations of underlying 
< 1726699874 306392 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :syscalls implementing them, but exit (literally system call 1, as old as Unix) is the last syscall to which you'd expect this would happen.
< 1726699893 355753 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/group_exit/exit_group/
< 1726699908 959642 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did not know that, since I had not used pre-pthreads linuxthreads
< 1726699999 713107 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only saving grace is that those old syscalls can be removed in newly created architectures whose syscall ABI is entirely incompatible with existing architectures, but that has a very long half-life for old syscalls on popular architectures
< 1726700069 693189 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About the typed initial messaged I had mentioned above, a problem with the shell converting file names like that is that it allows inadvertently giving capabilities that are not intended. The command shell being a programming language with types, will do it better.
< 1726700070 577249 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also technically sometimes you can remove some old syscalls with kernel compile options, which I know because I once did that accidentally with a kernel that I compiled and it caused everything to break
< 1726700132 936843 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In some cases it might automatically convert types, e.g. the command shell programming language (also called "Command, Automation, and Query Language") might not have C strings, so it will convert a Pascal string to a C string if that is what the program uses and will result in an error message (without executing the program) if it contains a null byte.
< 1726700147 635868 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and when that happens, programs usually break without a good error message
< 1726700204 481464 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: yeah, that already happens. bash uses strings that can contain nul bytes, but has to convert the if you use one as a command-line argument to an external program or as an environment variable
< 1726700279 268376 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also when using a string as a filename. and it's not just bash, this happens with some other high-level languages too. it can lead to funny security vulnerabilities if you do it wrong.
< 1726700349 873840 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Lisp has a separate filename type.
< 1726700432 546901 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, some programming languages have other problems with using strings as filenames, depending on how they differ from the filenames of the system; there are differences between operating systems and between programming languages. For example, some might require them to be Unicode strings, and then there is difference of case-sensitivity, etc.
< 1726700441 597793 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, my own system will not have file names.
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< 1726700681 123470 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I guess unshare makes sense at least partly, since most other syscalls in unix work that way, modifying the state of the current process instead of a newly spawned one. maybe the stuff like file system namespace and network namespace should be in unshared, while clone keeps only the stuff that fork normally unshares, most importantly CLONE_VM 
< 1726700698 297442 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/unshared/unshare/
< 1726700767 21402 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: sure, you can have a filename type, but at some point you still have to be able to convert a string to a filename 
< 1726700776 892603 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In order for emulation, network transparency, etc, also I would think that a common convention for endianness, etc will be defined for the data types in messages and files as well, so that they will be the same on alll computers. (A program may then internally convert the data to its own endianness, alignment, etc, if it wishes to perform its own computations using it (rather than merely pass it to someone else).)
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< 1726700833 153621 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, unix uses byte strings as filenames, windows uses UCS-16 strings as filenames, unix updates file modification time at every write, windows doesn't, these are fundamental differences that we can't really fix and if you want portable programs you effectively have to support both cases explicitly.
< 1726701035 60565 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, you might sometimes need to convert a string to a file name. However, for many systems you could just accept text in files, command-line arguments, etc and just use those when you need anything beyond the program's own ASCII file names, and for the program's own ASCII file names to use a consistent case and never use file names with the other case, then it might work, but it is messy.
< 1726701168 8865 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What my idea is to just not have file names at all. When you pass a file to a uxn program, it will be converted to a sequence of letters/numbers and then the uxn emulator will internally associate that name with that file temporarily. This also applies when a link to another file is read from a file, perhaps.
< 1726701257 435068 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :This also means that the C standard library will not have a fopen function, although fopencookie, fmemopen, etc are still available. There will be other functions to make a FILE object to access a capability that you have access to, though.
< 1726701811 321918 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there data types that I had missed in the list that I had written above?
< 1726701914 402274 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It would still be possible to give a message that does not conform to the expected format, although you would have to use the command to deliberately send a raw message, then; normally it would use the specified formats)
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< 1726703119 613204 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think most programs don't need to know the filename of the user files they operate on – however, programs often also have data files of their own, and need some way to identify them, so it makes sense to have a filename for those
< 1726703186 952993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when a program does need to know the name of the file it's operating on, it's normally to show it to the user (and IMO programs should have a type specifically for "text that is shown to the user" so that it can contain formatting, be translated into other languages, etc.)
< 1726703231 709789 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, sometimes a program wants to operate on an entire directory or directory tree, and filenames are useful there too
< 1726703249 466078 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had thought of such things too, and have thought of some other ways of doing some of these things.
< 1726703420 495226 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Files can contain links to other files, so a program can contain links to its data files, or a configuration file might have. For operating on many files, a sequence of links is possible, too. For "text that is shown to the user", I had considered that too, because I had considered i18n. And, the Common Data Format (used for most files and for the command shell) also allows for rich text.
< 1726703528 115635 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that the existing locale handling in many systems isn't that good, e.g. that paper size doesn't belong in the locale but rather in the printer driver configuration.
< 1726703627 754689 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Money formats belong with the data file being displayed, and not with the locale either.
< 1726703688 728803 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm – I think money formats are a mix of the data and the user's locale
< 1726703692 665864 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The language will belong with the locale, and so will date/time formats, although date/time formats should not need identifiers (using identifiers only limits them), and will not necessarily be a Gregorian calendar nor 24-hours (so "space age time keeping" would also be possible)
< 1726703710 634985 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, you are probably right about money formats.
< 1726703727 63216 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :an amount of money that's displayed as $5.20 in the USA should be displayed as US$5.20 in Canada (where $ normally mans something different) and 5,20 USD in France
< 1726703765 833706 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe 5.20 USD in Canada, too
< 1726703776 768136 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is hard to be unambiguous, often
< 1726703817 879432 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree with you that locale handling typically isn't very good, though
< 1726703829 812208 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, things like that is what I thought you meant
< 1726703842 792310 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with the paper size examples, WYSIWYG editors often have trouble because the paper size where the file is edited and where the file is printed are different
< 1726703866 812997 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and users aren't typically asked to specify the paper size when creating a document, even though this is important for WYSIWYG to work
< 1726703884 72617 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I prefer WYSIWYM editors, usually, which have enough information to adapt the document to a different paper size)
< 1726703943 979100 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A file that is formatted for a specific paper size would store that data of course, and the user would always be able to set this if it is necessary to do in the file, regardless of the printer driver configuration. (Not all files will be formatted for specific paper sizes.)
< 1726704002 811279 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes – what seems to happen in practice with editors like Microsoft Word is that it guesses a paper size when you create the document, then saves it in the document
< 1726704009 185388 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this causes problems when the guess is wrong
< 1726704068 71448 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, about WYSIWYG, when editing rich text, a "Reveal Codes" feature like WordPerfect will be needed.
< 1726704105 203366 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726704130 321529 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A program that requires a paper size should be allowed to be configured anyways; but the printer driver configuration can be used if a paper size is somehow required even though it has not been configured for that file nor for that program.
< 1726704164 975500 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in my case, my computer is usually not attached to a printer
< 1726704200 183333 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I need to print something (which is very rare) I can borrow a printer, but that's typically only after I've already written the document
< 1726704303 353468 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for what it's worth, I have also had dreams of writing my own OS, but my plans involved using an existing kernel and just replacing the userland (because it would be too difficult to rewrite all the device drivers from scratch)
< 1726704329 47040 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although I meant the printer driver configuration, which is not the same as the printer itself (although it could be automatically configured according to the printer if you have one). (You could install a null printer driver if you need to, although in the case I described it would not be necessary if you only want to configure one specific program or file. However, it would be useful if you commonly use one paper size.)
< 1726704436 569391 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About using existing kernels, my idea is that such a thing might be possible, at least with some kernels; it might be possible to run it inside of another operating system (I think Inferno also does), although standalone implementations would also be possible. The specification is separate from the implementation, so multiple implementations are possible. (In some cases, it might help to modify the existing kernels; I don't know, thoug
< 1726704680 667784 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Character encoding is another thing included in the locale in some systems but that also belongs with the data being displayed. In my system, this would be handled by Common Data Format; in addition to Extended TRON Code, you can also specify arbitrary 8-bit character sets.
< 1726704729 841749 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The keyboard manager also allows selecting a 8-bit character set (this is done by the application program) in "short character mode", and then if the user has a keyboard layout installed for that character set then it can be automatically selected. (For example, this ability might be useful for APL programming, maybe)
< 1726705142 46381 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For telephone number formats, you can use international telephone numbers for better i18n; if the country code is known to not display it in some cases if desired, that could be a display setting for locales possibly, although you might want to deliberately display it anyways. For dialing telephone numbers, that can be the telephone modem configuration perhaps, that it knows to include or exclude country codes.
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< 1726713676 13822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do... amplifiers usually require two inputs?
< 1726713702 186919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thinking of how students at MIT hooked up 4 lights on the PDP-1 to two amplifiers? speakers?
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< 1726713704 270782 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :To get music
< 1726713946 329623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :SIMH's help has a slightly misleading description
< 1726713962 816026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"The paper tape reader supports the BOOT command.  BOOT PTR copies the RIM loader into memory and starts it running."
< 1726713986 532989 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :PDP-1 does not have a RIM loader program in memory, as I understand it
< 1726713989 571710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :PDP-8 does
< 1726713998 808706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Or, a RIM loader toggled into memory I mean)
< 1726714057 82023 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :And indeed, PDP-8 SIMH BOOT PTR copies a program into memory, and PDP-1 SIMH does not.
< 1726714147 539508 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-8#/media/File:PDP-8_I_Bedienfeld_(simuliert).png it's great that PDP-8 "ROM" is human entered/loaded rom
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< 1726723633 959606 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still dislike the intro section, but I don't want to just stomp it, especially since I can't really replace it with much other than the standard formal definitions.
< 1726723649 10653 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I should add more "a category can be thought of as" examples.
< 1726723795 514795 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another thing I would say about category theory would be that a category is like a monoid but that the composition has to match, like the number of rows has to match the number of columns of the other matrix.
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< 1726723835 320347 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(A monoid is effectively the case that all of them match.)
< 1726723872 382764 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep, categories are generalized monoids. This is one of the edge cases of a process called -oidification.
< 1726723938 300022 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, a group is merely a group object in Set, the category of sets. (A group object has all endomorphisms invertible; you can always undo an action.) A groupoid is a handful of group objects.
< 1726723975 497792 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A category is like a monoidoid, if they could exist. Like you say, the composition has to be well-typed.
< 1726724078 85962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another useful perspective: category theory is like categorified set theory. A set is merely a 0-category. Any set-theoretic construction can be redone in category theory without losing any information or flexibility.
< 1726724130 289247 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :At least, to me, it makes more sense to consider like monoids but they can match like that, rather than the usual way of considering category theory, although that works too of course.
< 1726724277 548434 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, to me, matrix multiplication seems the most obvious example, considering the definition of a category)
< 1726724351 582113 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the category Mat is nice. Its objects are literally just natural numbers. (It's technically Mat_k over some semiring k, which is less nice.)
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< 1726724398 969956 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And of course there's not-quite-category theory to consider. The most important case for us is probably dagger-category theory, which covers reversible/invertible transformations.
< 1726724435 264684 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Historically that's meant quantum mechanics and other physics, but lately it's also used for relational logic. The category Rel of sets and relations is naturally a dagger-category, for example.
< 1726724680 476386 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I think categories can be addition, multiplication, expoentiation, where the finite discrete categories are effectively as good as natural numbers with these operations.
< 1726725677 642440 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. And that can get really complex, as with PROPs. Terrible name for a cool idea.
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< 1726775119 924969 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :" I have also had dreams of writing my own OS," => is that still the mobile phone one, or does this one target other computers too?
< 1726775344 830324 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? category
< 1726775346 773307 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? monoid
< 1726775348 584316 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A category is an enriched category where the enriching category is the category of classes.
< 1726775349 333999 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? monoidoid
< 1726775349 880125 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A monoid is the easy version of a category.
< 1726775352 2077 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :monoidoid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1726779507 763829 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I don't remember having planned a mobile phone OS, specifically
< 1726779518 484111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you might be thinking of something else
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< 1726779555 661655 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, I think current mobile phone OSes are better-designed from a security point of view than current desktop OSes, although they nonetheless still have a lot of issues
< 1726779564 563988 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(by OS here I am including userland, not just the kernel)
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> 1726779712 612669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02File:Something that managed to create this language.jpg10]]": Copyright violation: not created by the uploader, and the source is likely to be copyrighted
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< 1726780728 406026 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you don't remember having planned a mobile phone OS? I'll have to search the old channel logs for that then
< 1726780760 876411 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"they nonetheless still have a lot of issues" => http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2024-08-31.2802.smartphones-vs-pc.html agrees
< 1726781035 284667 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, apparently you said that you weren't planning to make one https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2018-09.html#lfLb
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< 1726785702 966228 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The document is French, so I will not make a criticism of it, but about mobile phone OS, I did not have an intention to do it; my ideas are intended for a desktop or laptop computer, although they could be used for smartphones etc also
< 1726785774 107701 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there are problems with security with mobile phones as well as with desktop, as well as other stuff, but that a better design would consider multiple issues and would be able to improve multiple issues.
< 1726785867 172319 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In addition to security, another issue is better user control and user programmability. And then, there is also such things as accessibility, internationalization, etc.
< 1726785943 511689 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also hardware design; although implementations could be made to use with existing hardware, there are some better ways to do some of it, including the devices such as keyboard, etc.
< 1726785982 848155 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like Apple keyboard, I would have a separate Return and Enter key, and a separate Command and Control key.
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< 1726804309 609351 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :One problem with the security in smartphones is that the permissions are too coarse, and another is that it is not designed that the user can easily override the effects of the I/O (e.g. that one program will believe that the screen size is half or that a video file is actually a camera); however, fixing the latter would also mitigat the former problem. There are many other issues too.
< 1726804356 459965 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, there are other problems with smartphone designs including lack of physical keyboard, touch screen, etc. I do not have a smartphone because this computer is much better instead.
< 1726804450 166282 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another security issue with any computer, is something that is not handled by software, but physical tampering; you can make it easy to detect by physical inspection of the computer. One thing I had seen suggested is adding glitter.
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> 1726836439 57665 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuckconsole7414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139968&oldid=108766 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+3206) 10/* Missing software */
> 1726836521 92494 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139969&oldid=139626 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+342) 10
> 1726836557 733175 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139970&oldid=139590 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-28) 10
> 1726836735 185963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139971&oldid=139931 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+172) 10/* I'm born in 2010! Earlier. */ new section
> 1726836794 327180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esowar14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139972&oldid=74901 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10
> 1726836805 832526 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esowar14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139973&oldid=139972 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10/* See also */
> 1726837491 447903 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139974&oldid=139597 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+768) 10/* Please check my Turing completeness proof for 2KWLang */
> 1726837764 670515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139975&oldid=139971 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+721) 10/* I have the same born year with you. */ new section
> 1726837872 354532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139976&oldid=137962 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+81) 10
> 1726838222 761374 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139977&oldid=139975 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+244) 10
> 1726838226 671751 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139978&oldid=139521 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+61) 10
> 1726838302 200485 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Archive14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139979 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+36) 10Created page with "Here is the discussion archive page."
> 1726838320 308994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139980&oldid=139978 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+112) 10/* Copyright violations */
> 1726838339 938029 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139981&oldid=139980 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+4) 10/* Copyright violations */
> 1726838413 744577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139982&oldid=139981 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+705) 10
> 1726838475 979629 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Archive/Before 2024 9 2014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139983 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+20285) 10Created page with "==  == === Talking page is moved. ===  You can also talk with me at [[User:PrySigneToFry/Discussion]]. === Can you not fucking choose to "add a topic"?! === Can't you just fucking save me something?!!!    --[[User:PrySigneToFry
> 1726838527 914793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Archive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139984&oldid=139979 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+23) 10
> 1726838599 250895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139985&oldid=139982 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-19249) 10Replaced content with "== Welcome! == Welcome to my talking page. Add contents by yourself!  == Rules == === Original === # You should't includes illegal elements (especially those that violate the Esolang Wiki site rules). # You can talk with these topic
> 1726838630 956375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139986&oldid=139985 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2) 10
> 1726839125 723865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/PrySigneToFry English14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139987 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1168) 10Created page with "Yeah. Because PrySigneToFry is a Chinese person, the English is normally different. Here are some examples, compared with normal English.  == Rules == * Add more rules * No spam or talking * List only differences  == Differences == {| c
> 1726839421 389822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139988&oldid=139965 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+301) 10
> 1726839647 239013 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/PrySigneToFry English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139989&oldid=139987 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+36) 10
> 1726839807 745785 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139990&oldid=139575 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+5) 10
> 1726839859 528056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139991 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+245) 10Created page with "{{WIP}}  Here's a glossary of my own words. You can add your own words to my glossary!  == Nouns == midorcase: A type of letter that sits between uppercase and lowercase, usually rendered as small uppercase letters.  multiline: More than
> 1726840085 675596 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139992&oldid=139991 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+42) 10/* Nouns */
> 1726840096 813477 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139993&oldid=137575 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+175) 10
> 1726840099 117432 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=139994 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+126) 10Created page with "==More words== Can you add more words? ~~~~"
> 1726840145 264889 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139995&oldid=139994 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+150) 10/* More words */
> 1726840153 202298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139996&oldid=138151 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+51) 10
> 1726840184 599998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139997&oldid=139992 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+44) 10
> 1726840247 468678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139998&oldid=139557 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+13) 10
> 1726840545 857390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=139999&oldid=139634 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1565) 10 wt o ser th lchd ex t prss tt there r  l
> 1726840587 13158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140000&oldid=139999 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+64) 10
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> 1726841618 659405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/PrySigneToFry English14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140001 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+165) 10Created page with "maybe this could use [[User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words]] as words? [:~~~~:]"
> 1726841906 809803 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140002 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1325) 10Created page with "I made [[Translated ORK/PSTF Again5]] FUNNIER! ~~~~  1. Take the already garbage one 
 No No No Force full-screen mode Force full-screen mode Tedn's tyrange is a thief. Click to make this setting optional Hunter No _Lock activation 
 2. Put
> 1726841937 677978 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140003&oldid=139998 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+44) 10
> 1726841979 940593 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140004&oldid=139760 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+45) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
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> 1726849212 94052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Li210 5*  10New user account
> 1726849671 335545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140005&oldid=139904 5* 03Li210 5* (+190) 10
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> 1726850125 621428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Li21014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140006 5* 03Li210 5* (+7) 10Created page with "some mf"
> 1726850757 944962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140007&oldid=139974 5* 03Ais523 5* (+379) 10/* Hmm... */ MIT files are not acceptable for public-domain sites
> 1726851105 376985 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:lang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140008&oldid=119960 5* 03PlaceReporter99 5* (+183) 10/* Even even shorter self-interpreter */
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> 1726852017 233038 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140009&oldid=139997 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+44) 10
< 1726852048 780338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1726852655 875190 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX/Interpreter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140010 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+5644) 10Created page with "Here is a working PIX interpreter in HTML, CSS and JS.  Generated by Claude 3.5 Sonnet, then changed the example by myself: 
              1726853261 176895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140013&oldid=139963 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+60) 10
> 1726853290 869616 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140014&oldid=139884 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+10) 10/* P */
> 1726853467 462893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140015&oldid=140011 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-1196) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/140011|140011]] by [[Special:Contributions/MihaiEso|MihaiEso]] ([[User talk:MihaiEso|talk]]) Maybe possible copyright.
> 1726853698 697228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140016&oldid=140012 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+179) 10/* Microsoft Logo */
> 1726853849 845459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX/Interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140017&oldid=140010 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+34) 10Link, category
> 1726853923 23451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140018&oldid=140016 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+12) 10
> 1726853947 688920 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140019&oldid=140018 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+57) 10Categories
> 1726853962 368132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140020&oldid=140019 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+38) 10
> 1726854053 445899 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:lang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140021&oldid=140008 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+47) 10/* Even even shorter self-interpreter */ Unsigned
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> 1726856045 58953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/PrySigneToFry English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140022&oldid=139989 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+60) 10/* Differences */
> 1726856325 570322 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My words14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140023&oldid=140009 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+44) 10/* Nouns */
> 1726856568 706268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140024&oldid=138160 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* turing completeness proof */
< 1726856979 379784 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :PIX is more of a ... human readable image format
< 1726857066 708039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm unclear how the screen modes work
> 1726857671 215980 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/PrySigneToFry English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140025&oldid=140022 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-23) 10/* Differences */
> 1726857854 869677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140026&oldid=140015 5* 03Ais523 5* (+353) 10/* Hmm... */ clarify what the problem is
> 1726857926 893583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140027&oldid=140026 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+144) 10/* Hmm... */
> 1726859071 527932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Number2D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140028&oldid=117576 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+237) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Number2D programming language on GitHub and supplemented three page category tags.
> 1726859176 354386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Number2D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140029&oldid=140028 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+0) 10Rectified the example program Example 1 which hitherto invoked a tape modification instruction (4) in lieu of a horizontal instruction pointer redirection (2).
> 1726859839 805658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07R++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140030&oldid=127143 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1726860014 15167 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Str0ng%password14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140031 5* 03Li210 5* (+5920) 10Created page with "'''Str0ng%password''' (or ''strongpw'') is a [[String rewriting paradigm|string-rewriting]] [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Li210]] during two days of binging designer stimulants. The language only allows user to work with a single arbitrary ty
> 1726860108 311883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140032&oldid=140004 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-16) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1726860141 237716 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07There Once was an Esolang Named Fred14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140033&oldid=79581 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1726860165 785740 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140034&oldid=140014 5* 03Li210 5* (+22) 10
> 1726860725 362133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated PIX14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140035 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1944) 10Created page with "Let's put my own graphical language [[PIX]] to bonkers!  1. Take the "Hello, TIC-80!" example: 
 ! We set the screen mode and pallete SM 16C SC 1 #ffffff SC 2 #1a1c2c SC 3 #29366f SC 4 #41a6f4 SC 5 #f4f4f4 ! We draw the actual picture ! Start R 0 0 320 320 1
> 1726860848 920384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140036&oldid=119756 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* See also */
> 1726861435 995192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ABPL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140037 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+249) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=ABPL{{s|WNL}}}} ABPL{{s|WNL}} is an [[ABPLWNL]] esolang with just two commands (I don't need to say what are they) ==Additional commands== {| class="wikitable" ! Symbol !! Actions |- | Example || Example |- | Example || Example |}"
> 1726861701 40539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ABPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140038&oldid=140037 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+56) 10/* Additional commands */
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> 1726862452 425622 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ABPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140040&oldid=140039 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Examples */
> 1726862493 201777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ABPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140041&oldid=140040 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+30) 10
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> 1726864739 828445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Number2D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140042&oldid=140029 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+633) 10Reformatted the instruction listing as a table, improved the orthography and the code fragments' formatting.
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< 1726872608 610751 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I might want to try to make a GUI library in C, since the existing ones are limited in various ways. Often they have some things that I did not want, or lack support for some features such as bitmap fonts, non-Unicode multibyte text, an improved scroll bar style, etc. I dislike the modern fancy animations and that stuff too. (Xaw also has a different set of problems that some things just don't work very well)
< 1726872980 798689 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It might do if I might make it with a system-dependent part and system-independent part, so that multiple implementations of the system-dependent part can be possible.
< 1726873114 418985 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Another alternative could be to modify an existing program, if there is a suitable one, that is not too difficult to modify and not too big to modify)
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> 1726894249 202907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140054&oldid=139990 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+19) 10
> 1726894324 708504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140055 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2072) 10Created page with "-- is an Esolang designed by PSTF. It is ACTUALLY derived from [[deadfish]].  == Commands == 
 This Esolang|Deadfish|Meaning           |i       |Increase           |d       |Decrease           |s       |Square           |o       |Output as Integer 
 == Examples 
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> 1726894855 610179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140060&oldid=140027 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+789) 10/* My talking page */ new section
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> 1726897519 904966 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Shorten your Brainfuck code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140067&oldid=107953 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+13) 10/* Use the visualizer */
> 1726897857 298848 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!!!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140068&oldid=127324 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+29) 10This moves turns !! from a orphaned page to a dead-end page, which is still bad but better than an orphaned page
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> 1726899798 147936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140071 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+321) 10Created page with "'''6 bytes of useless element''' is a esolang by [[User:Yayimhere]] inspired by [[3 bytes :v)]] == how it works == take the program delete the first char and output the program and then a f == examples == [[Quine]]:  ff [[hello, world!]]
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< 1726904473 441702 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the underlaod two command thing *kinda* cheats since it uses : and () but just not directly
< 1726904482 836678 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they are still intepreted by ^
< 1726904483 337022 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^
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< 1726909081 671158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have something to aks., cant any lambda expression be desrcibed with nested empty lambdas and identity functions?
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< 1726909980 385019 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the identity function
< 1726909983 940532 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :could gave a input
< 1726909987 351372 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then you could make it
< 1726910031 730251 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\x. ((\x. x) x) ((\x. x) x)
< 1726910076 177569 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's clearly more than empty lmabdas (const) and identities
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< 1726910096 578741 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i said
< 1726910098 943352 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you allowed
< 1726910102 37219 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
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< 1726910124 299903 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :combinator base K, I is very incomplete
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< 1726910130 643612 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye
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< 1726910133 944511 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :need to leave
< 1726910135 666352 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :can only make projection functions
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 No, not at all. No, not at all. No, not at all. This is a Raphael. This is a Raphael. Ted Tyrant If, however, no conversion and the deportatio
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> 1726924092 316289 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140111 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+305) 10Created page with "'''Functioning Mods''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its a jumble of other esolangs put together for some reason == commands ==  ''F''10 notated as (''F'' w) from [[Jot]]   and  from [[FROSTWIRE-666]]  ` and c from [[Unlambda]]  a from [[Savage O
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< 1726925664 482636 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Feedback?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Functioning_Mods
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> 1726926947 213672 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Postrado14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140118&oldid=140117 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10/* Deadfish implementation */
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> 1726928038 256143 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140121&oldid=140119 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+16) 10
> 1726928249 979385 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary-encoded Minsky machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140122&oldid=121520 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+17) 10/* Encoding */
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> 1726930204 276637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140125 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+935) 10Created page with "I made [[Translated ORK/PSTF Again6|this]] WTF? ~~~~  1. Put the already low quality program 
 no good [69] Disable log _out Disable logout Disable saving to d_disk Disable Exiting no [69] OK 
 2. Translate it worse! 
 ModernMT: English 
> 1726930221 902977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140126&oldid=140097 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+47) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
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> 1726930332 409749 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140129&oldid=140128 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-47) 10/* commands */
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> 1726931213 788253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140132&oldid=135769 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+80) 10
> 1726931250 205193 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07~~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140133&oldid=138910 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+48) 10/* ~~ hexadecimal format */
> 1726932138 653540 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140134 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+868) 10Created page with "(XQDFW, or Xithedephou) is designed by PSTF to use another type of picture to show [[]] script.  == Format == Use white square with  to represent print function.  Use a serie of circle to represent memory slot.  Use white square with  to represent input function.  Use  to
> 1726932243 660758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140135&oldid=140108 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+17) 10
> 1726932402 840334 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140136&oldid=131511 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+165) 10
< 1726932655 376867 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN #esolangs ski :Stefan Ljungstrand
< 1726932806 898088 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello ski. i like ur username
> 1726932943 300938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07lang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140137&oldid=137564 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-12) 10
< 1726932978 318973 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Raoof
< 1726932999 881980 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I'm not reading five other pages to understand how a language works if it's supposedly just a combinator basis. Please consider using a standard notation; I don't care which one.
< 1726933012 917238 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726933018 186220 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i should yea
< 1726933019 798338 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but then
< 1726933026 349866 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the concept
< 1726933029 885267 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will be destroyed
< 1726933038 803188 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also still don't understand your goals. But I can guess that you're learning and playing rather than heading towards a specific destination.
< 1726933054 74853 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726933059 679074 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If your concept isn't isomorphism-invariant, then it's probably ill-founded.
< 1726933061 363167 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was based on like
< 1726933066 869214 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how i was confused on lazy k
< 1726933071 135935 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i though it could use
< 1726933077 463000 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SKI and Unlambda ect.
< 1726933079 904283 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :al together
< 1726933177 685733 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello all I'm back and thank you for your previous responses. I wonder if anybody interested in finding a universal Diophantine equation with one unknown since if we have a UDE1: y=f(x) <-> ∃y[U(f,x,y)=0] then all TC languages have a total and TC subset
< 1726933220 649908 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hlw does Nope have a TC subset???
< 1726933221 632886 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :allo, wWwwW
< 1726933232 225615 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :allo:]
< 1726933388 588004 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW :)
< 1726933399 331382 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehe
< 1726933528 472427 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo what do you think ? is there a UDE1 ?
< 1726933536 233664 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: The top of this particular power ceiling is the untyped lambda calculus. There's nothing above that. SKI isn't above that. Unlambda isn't above it either. They're all isomorphic: it's possible to transform one into the other without losing or gaining any functionality.
< 1726933577 740675 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what message are you answering
< 1726933613 501254 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Raoof: Probably. But since a TC language without a total subset would have to be *very* strange and I can't imagine it offhand, I'm not sure what we would be showing.
< 1726933643 818211 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I'm replying to the idea that "SKI and Unlambda together" is a distinct thing from either SKI or Unlambda.
< 1726933666 860854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes but they can still be represnted in lambda calculus
< 1726933668 747879 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so they are
< 1726933673 115772 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"compatible"
< 1726933710 281936 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, okay, I think I see the problem. The identity function is not I, nor is it (\x. x). Those are *terms* in SKI and ULC respectively which *denote* the identity function.
< 1726933734 79755 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For every term in SKI which denotes a function, there is a ULC term which denotes it too, and vice versa. This is what I mean by isomorphism or equivalence.
< 1726933751 384659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726933758 524943 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo it also means there is a total and TC language, so we don't need to worry about the halting problem
< 1726933787 449088 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(*The* identity function is an end in the term category. It usually doesn't show up as a distinct term. Languages like Cammy which have explicit ends are unusual in this way.)
< 1726933814 871285 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Raoof: Oh, then it's obviously bogus, as TC languages must be able to host non-total programs via emulation.
< 1726933816 552460 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :term?
< 1726933836 804117 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this context a term is
< 1726933852 506355 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Term" is a shorter word than "expression" which doesn't overlap with the verb "to express", that's all. You'll see both words show up in logic.
< 1726933864 84030 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I, SKK, SII, etc. are terms of SKI.
< 1726933869 532704 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh kk
< 1726933875 552331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :makes sense
< 1726934161 187011 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it don work?
< 1726934163 598377 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or
< 1726934193 959754 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the was a problem
< 1726934200 661061 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it wont work. right?
< 1726934322 44624 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know how to restate what I said initially: you combined five different languages without defining them in a single common notation. If you handed me a program in Functioning Mods, I wouldn't know what function it denotes.
< 1726934342 773954 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh kk
< 1726934350 277910 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then i will define them all below the commands
< 1726934357 309842 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in lambda calculus
< 1726934404 500034 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo why do you want to emulate a non-total program ?
< 1726934435 592195 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Raoof: Personally? I'm interested in the hardest problems in mathematics. But in general, a TC system ought to be able to host universal emulators of other TC systems, and those don't necessarily halt.
< 1726934461 26441 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually what is ` in lambda calculus
< 1726934480 333800 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and what is c
< 1726934483 243194 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Parentheses, usually.
< 1726934491 750395 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1726934497 807590 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :lambda calculus has application
< 1726934506 691309 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so its applicaiton?
< 1726934524 919980 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :To get a working c, you must transform your program to continuation-passing style (CPS). "The continuation" is merely another function when expressed this way.
< 1726934534 381070 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :iirc Unlambda correctly, yes
< 1726934538 498155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shit
< 1726934540 930968 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry
< 1726934566 652087 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :`c' is `call-with-current-continuation', no ?
< 1726934568 832484 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :c'? No such file or directory
< 1726934589 925063 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION glares at HackEso

< 1726934605 155141 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, c is call/cc.
< 1726934621 448943 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then ill delete it
< 1726934655 663744 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The real question is d. Unlambda uses d for ordering, like Haskell's seq. It's very important when *executing* programs on a computer, but largely irrelevant to whether we can *express* a function with a program.
< 1726934672 952823 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :`delay' ?
< 1726934674 212219 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :delay'? No such file or directory
< 1726934684 576437 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so x`y applies x to y?
< 1726934694 411708 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Might have been "delay", maybe "deferred" which is an uncommon name for the promise monad.
< 1726934714 890939 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Isn't it `xy to apply x to y? I'm going from memory right now.
< 1726934728 149169 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :istr it's prefix, yes
< 1726934729 351447 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would make *sense*
< 1726934732 616986 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1726934734 295705 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :YES
< 1726934748 951256 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or, polish notation, if you prefer)
< 1726934763 391701 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc
< 1726934765 204535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1726934789 195480 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :When you start to write parsers, you'll care.
< 1726934804 825979 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehe
< 1726934822 741057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idc about if you call it polish or prefix
< 1726934849 962439 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION polishes pegleg

< 1726934939 884591 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's called "Polish" because otherwise most folks would have to look up how to spell Łukasiewicz like I just did.
< 1726934980 499216 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :("woo-KAH-seh-vitch", IIUC)
< 1726934991 520570 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehehe
> 1726935353 455710 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140138&oldid=139895 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-5) 10/* operators */
> 1726935366 110545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Savage Operator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140139&oldid=140138 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-48) 10/* operators */
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< 1726935713 822180 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo maybe I shouldn't have used TC, I meant that if we have a UDE1 then there is a language that can compute all total computable functions and by enforcing a convention we can eliminate the halting problem in all TC languages and also have a decision algorithm for Hilbert's 10th problem, I know it's proven undecidable but if there is UDE1 then
< 1726935714 321962 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :that contradict their theorem. maybe you see that as a proof that there is no UDE1 ?
> 1726935866 783744 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140140&oldid=140129 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+403) 10/* commands */
< 1726935869 681216 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :DONE
> 1726936027 275313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140141&oldid=140140 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* commands */
< 1726936050 539884 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :HELL YEA
< 1726936057 951979 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it works now right korvo
> 1726936113 573690 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140142&oldid=140141 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-28) 10/* commands */
> 1726936380 966653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140143&oldid=140142 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+7) 10/* commands */
> 1726936434 832336 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140144&oldid=140143 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+3) 10
> 1726936451 249675 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140145&oldid=140144 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10/* commands */
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< 1726936829 786555 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Nice.
< 1726936844 786705 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1726936849 941199 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Raoof: Yeah, if it's that tight, then I'd assume UDE1 doesn't exist.
< 1726936889 271469 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Basically anything that pushes against Lawvere's fixed-point theorem, which has Turing's Halting as a special case, is likely bogus.
< 1726936954 182971 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've spent far too many words on this. https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/113701/48431 is a recent situation where I ripped apart a crank because they wouldn't shut up about Gödel.
< 1726936976 527978 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Raoof: I'm not saying you're a crank BTW. I'm just saying that there is a *lot* of evidence and proof here.
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< 1726937115 780558 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :think its tc when you look at it?
> 1726937526 286533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140147&oldid=140146 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+144) 10/* commands */
< 1726937579 874257 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's clearly TC because it has S and K.
< 1726937596 783385 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1726937611 402539 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :theyre included for the
< 1726937612 402793 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :umm
< 1726937614 443312 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lambdas
< 1726937616 256007 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It has S and K, therefore it has SII(SII), therefore not every term has a normal form.
> 1726937645 999461 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140148&oldid=140147 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+26) 10/* commands */
< 1726937652 643674 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :made it clear
< 1726937660 270321 :Raoof!~Raoof@ip251.ip-167-114-76.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :thank you for responses. bye for now
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< 1726937674 834603 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye!!
< 1726937738 769779 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: What's your current goal? To not be TC?
< 1726937746 599690 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726937752 767206 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just to try to
< 1726937758 929679 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :learn cross esolang stuff
< 1726937857 411000 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1726937866 895834 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how esolangs can interact with each other
< 1726937926 776266 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :They don't, usually. Let L and K be languages, and let S be some semantics. S is what we actually want to study; like, S is a collection of functions. L and K are merely syntax for denoting functions in S.
< 1726937947 742573 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726937949 760157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726937951 346367 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but
< 1726937952 954719 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some do
< 1726937961 252842 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since they are defined in lambda calculus
< 1726937994 616705 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then what we usually care about is *compiling* L to K or vice versa. Let L -> S be an interpretation of L in S; it's a way of assigning a function to each term of L. Then we want something L -> K, sending terms of L to terms of K, such that we induce another interpretation K -> S.
< 1726938017 531716 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1726938031 671636 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, you're working with the situation where L is SKI, K is ULC, and S is some sort of computable functions.
< 1726938044 618620 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726938048 270985 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1726938050 891317 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we also have
< 1726938059 146504 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What I'm trying to point out is that a transformation from one language to another doesn't imply that the languages somehow work together or fit together.
< 1726938068 283883 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726938078 843309 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but when they are made and evaluated with the exact same system
< 1726938080 336102 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it works
< 1726938084 848518 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726938086 675154 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not always
> 1726938133 713073 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140149&oldid=140148 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+33) 10/* commands */
< 1726938154 324463 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, not even then. Let S be the standard amd64 semantics for hardware. There are several languages which compile to it in incompatible ways, say C, Python, Haskell, Prolog, and Scheme.
< 1726938173 152671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726938179 274841 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but even the formatting is the same
< 1726938181 296691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even
< 1726938196 894300 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they have been written in the same system
< 1726938204 11903 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or, more pedantically, let K be amd64 assembly language and let S be the hardware behavior. Then these languages build different setups in K; some of them have heaps, some have GCs, some have stacks, some have continuations.
< 1726938240 215239 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726938243 402131 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i understand
> 1726938268 128090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TheCanon214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140150&oldid=138067 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+40) 10Added Slide rule completeness
< 1726938743 343889 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, given all that, it's quite nice that ULC and SKI are isomorphic. It means that, often, we *don't care* whether a basis is fancy; we only care whether it has S and K, or Iota, or Jot, or Meredith's axiom, or BCKW, or etc.
< 1726938764 27467 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
> 1726939323 85963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Slide-rule completeness14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140151 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+466) 10Created page with "A machine is '''slide rule-complete''' if said machine can perform any operation that can be simulated by a slide rule of arbitrary length with arbitrary markings. ==Slide rule machine== A slide rule machine is an automaton that operates by moving a sli
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> 1726940387 373475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cree sharp14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140152 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[CREE]]
> 1726940417 980852 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cree sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140153&oldid=140152 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10Changed redirect target from [[CREE]] to [[Cree]]
> 1726940817 459123 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140154&oldid=140149 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10
> 1726940855 220112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140155&oldid=140154 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+29) 10
> 1726940875 940117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140156&oldid=140155 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10/* commands */
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< 1726941563 727407 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so...ummmmm...wat u guys think?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Turtle_just_want_to_dig
> 1726941733 177620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ACL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140157&oldid=65317 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10/* Collatz sequence */
> 1726942981 281352 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07APL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140158&oldid=81413 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-4) 10its not the J they are thinking about. its not my J
> 1726943048 575711 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timeline of golfing languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140159&oldid=121092 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-3) 10/* 2015 */ also not their J its my J
> 1726943095 314664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gs214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140160&oldid=69707 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-4) 10still not that J
< 1726943522 176659 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Have you considered that perhaps *your* language should be moved? J is plenty esoteric and I would expect the page [[J]] to have a stub for it, not for yours.
< 1726943538 487900 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726943546 863207 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not rn atleast
< 1726943550 358624 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to tired
< 1726943553 950234 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe jiust to like
< 1726943558 989424 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :J (Yayimhere)
< 1726943575 888570 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not just you. [[E]] is another good example.
< 1726943597 519118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726943600 966760 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like still
< 1726943604 606308 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, it was shitty of earlier proglang designers to use single-letter names. No, we aren't going to ignore earlier proglangs, especially when they are as influential as E or J.
< 1726943636 922522 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but then why not move it to "J (Yayimhere)"
< 1726943639 467738 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Admittedly this is my perspective, and I only make approximately one new language every five years.
< 1726943639 755897 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like usually
< 1726944006 400010 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: How does Turtle just want to dig halt?
< 1726944022 755856 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :going of bounds of the program
< 1726944025 638070 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as mentioned
< 1726944083 863555 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can they dig down forever?
< 1726944093 270261 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726944096 17213 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with BUG
< 1726944097 989600 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz bug
< 1726944101 833373 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesnt count
< 1726944107 196725 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it expands border
< 1726944108 783888 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats how
< 1726944128 205875 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ñ
< 1726944128 704983 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :===
< 1726944129 204232 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :# #
< 1726944129 704509 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs : õ
< 1726944130 704698 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :works
< 1726944131 127818 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay. So halting has to be from the left and right bounds, not digging to a maximum depth?
< 1726944139 586952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726944145 162007 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the bug expands border
< 1726944154 625839 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in other words
< 1726944167 488880 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :going to rows or lines that no commands are on
< 1726944196 66780 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :collumn
> 1726944261 100229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turtle just want to dig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140161&oldid=139758 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+36) 10/* how it works */
> 1726944382 371580 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turtle just want to dig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140162&oldid=140161 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+98) 10/* examples */
< 1726944630 238689 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yeah, except for C, I usually use the more qualified names, like jsoftware, digitalmars D, Vttoth's W
< 1726944652 381324 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C is special enough that I usually don't have to say K&R C or anything like that
< 1726945030 590823 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Yep, totally fair. Context matters for me, and editing [[APL]] or [[Timeline of golfing languages]] triggered my sense of relevance.
< 1726945048 848021 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry
< 1726945057 57353 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for doing it
< 1726945077 832613 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, here's another opinion from Mr. Five Years: language names should be puns. And not just mild puns, but three-way puns which require knowledge of computing history and something else too.
< 1726945100 100276 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: No worries. You're not in trouble, although I do hope that you learn something about history of APL from this.
< 1726945110 95296 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh i do
< 1726945111 777539 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think
< 1726945116 152260 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, there are other disambiguations, like the APL-like J
< 1726945153 345337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was about to say something
< 1726945155 217201 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726945162 482536 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: i cant do puns:]
< 1726945174 245430 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, [[Cammy]] is a pun on "CAM-E", a flavor of E using the Categorial Abstract Machine; it's technically named after *Camellia* the tea tree, though. (A "T-tree", a typed tree.)
< 1726945224 886912 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Even in your native language? They don't have to be English puns; a fun example is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qalb_(programming_language)
< 1726945259 775087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726945266 358027 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :danish puns are weird tho...
< 1726945269 506317 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1726945272 463192 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to be fair I am also bad at naming and have used very generic names for languages or other programs that I'm writing
< 1726945273 229081 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they get rlly weird
< 1726945287 637428 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i usually do random on wikidate until i find a cool name
> 1726945295 867327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Wip14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140163&oldid=106057 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+155) 10
< 1726945310 27659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats how i got A Question of Protocol
> 1726945312 312395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140164 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+555) 10incomplete wip
< 1726945314 630735 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Bijection
< 1726945328 289613 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*wikidata
< 1726945359 495499 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok lemme try
< 1726945363 88080 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Consider C's successors. They're all puns: D uses the alphabet, C++ uses C itself, C♯ uses a musical alphabet, Obj-C is a pun on "objective", E is a reaction to both C and D, etc.
< 1726945379 438462 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik about C# thing
< 1726945380 702851 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz
< 1726945384 360573 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like music lol
< 1726945391 651018 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pun for Functioning Mods
< 1726945393 853622 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will try
< 1726945407 573363 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't E like a reaction to Erlang or something?
< 1726945427 225323 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Go, Dart, and Swift are all puns on going fast; Go kind of gave up trying, but Dart and Swift pun pub darts and birds respectively.
< 1726945517 685760 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :E is mostly a reaction to Oak winning the Java competition. Elm is another alternative to Oak, having almost nothing in common with E other than being isolated and confined for totally different reasons.
< 1726945536 682453 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brugtiohell
< 1726945540 130144 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :frick
< 1726945546 124242 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dis aint even a pun i feel like
< 1726945557 388549 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, the thesis which introduces E spends a lot of time explaining how Java can't safely load untrusted code, while E can do it easily.
< 1726945568 673242 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its a combinational of functionel, brug, and hell
< 1726945589 257784 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Nice!
< 1726945593 670883 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx
< 1726945597 853274 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its a hell to use
< 1726945604 886848 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brug is use in danish
< 1726945607 568646 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it uses functions
< 1726945632 235727 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Good pun, well done.
< 1726945641 183065 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx:)!
> 1726945659 897532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140165&oldid=140156 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1360) 10Blanked the page
> 1726945696 275805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140166 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1394) 10Created page with "'''Brugtiohell''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its a jumble of other esolangs put together for some reason == commands == these are the commands of Brugtiohell:  ''x''10, notated as E''x'', and 1, from [[Jot]]    , and , from [[FROSTWIRE-666]]    ` 
< 1726945701 200935 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :moved it
< 1726945703 380195 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll never beat dash's name for our language, "Monte". (I guess I should stub it?) Monte is Python-flavored E, it's a mountain of a language, and it's homophone with {manti}, Lojban for "ant".
> 1726945773 175805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140167&oldid=140166 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+86) 10
< 1726945833 518641 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BUT is also a joke ig
< 1726945835 948869 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since its like
< 1726945843 905635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BUT I DONT WANNA USE IT!!!!
< 1726945972 950051 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm going to create a couple pages and a category, I guess. I'm also considering moving [[E]] to something like [[E (eeEee)]] given its low number of incoming links.
< 1726945982 375119 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726945993 485622 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could use [[E (joke)]] instead, but that's not nearly as funny of a URL.
< 1726946003 34998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726946020 498898 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the esolang community is the least mean one iver ever been in
< 1726946029 511092 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :[[E (disambiguation page)]] ? :-)
< 1726946038 840585 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes plz
< 1726946041 527908 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::]
< 1726946046 15114 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::-]
< 1726946048 595162 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well no
< 1726946050 741414 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be
< 1726946077 185599 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::=]
< 1726946333 236899 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would you add information to this???: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wiki/pedia/.org
< 1726946520 382830 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :The other day, I was thinking about making an esolang where programs are encoded as Git repos. Of course, I'm not the first to think of that: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Legit
< 1726946551 61254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when you get an idea but its taken
< 1726946553 935366 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you feel bad
< 1726946555 370110 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :._.
< 1726946580 956445 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is APL's name a joke or pun
> 1726946612 42137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140168&oldid=139691 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+93) 10
< 1726946661 359267 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :JAA: In PLT and PLDI, there's really only one E. I'll admit that knowledge of E is limited; we consider it something of a shibboleth for awareness of actors, capabilities, etc.
< 1726946748 501265 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye
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< 1726946760 579974 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :JAA: Oh, also, [[Cammy/Hives]] isn't well-done, but it sketches how to encode Cammy programs as git objects.
< 1726946764 186135 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: APL is an abbreviation of "A programming language", the title of an original article that proposed the precursor for it or something like that. It's *weird* because the late Ken Iverson was actually *good* at naming things, and used inventive original names for some APL constructs, but somehow he failed that one naming check.
< 1726946814 952132 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I saw that one, too, yeah.
< 1726946878 925269 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The main advantage of my encoding is that duplicate actions don't take up extra space. But there's some weaknesses, like git's lack of lists.
< 1726946885 705643 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then went with that theme and named an APL variant J, so now we have to disambiguate it as APL-like J, or Jsoftware J, or Iverson's J, or IJS, and somehow even infected Arthur Whitney to create an APL-like language called K
> 1726947269 449169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/brainfuck turing completeness proof14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140169 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+791) 10Created page with "naw jk this is every logic gate in brainfuck  PUT SOME MORE IN THE COMMENT SECTION BELOW, AND I'LL PICK MY FAVORITES ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF MORTY ON THE TALK PAGE == some terms ==  a-z are inputs (, for 0/1)  A-Z 
> 1726947845 191702 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140170&oldid=140165 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1360) 10why do you want to remove the page tho
> 1726947910 426796 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monte14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140171 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1701) 10Stub one of my projects. Ask me anything on the talk page; I'm basically the only person to write serious amounts of Monte.
> 1726948004 261818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Y/Y14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140172&oldid=139851 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+33) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726948156 796319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Corbin 5*  10moved [[02E10]] to [[E (eeEee)]]: Moving a joke to a funnier name in order to document the much-more-well-known language with the same name.
> 1726948156 821140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Corbin 5*  10moved [[02Talk:E10]] to [[Talk:E (eeEee)]]: Moving a joke to a funnier name in order to document the much-more-well-known language with the same name.
> 1726948238 450482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140177&oldid=103564 5* 03Corbin 5* (+8) 10Inline a post-move redirect.
> 1726948282 875275 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140178&oldid=139704 5* 03Corbin 5* (+8) 10Inline a post-move redirect.
> 1726949476 512440 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140179&oldid=140174 5* 03Corbin 5* (+2041) 10Stub an important language.
> 1726949862 598948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140180&oldid=140179 5* 03Corbin 5* (+468) 10Explain how to run E-on-Java. And yes, I just tested this.
> 1726949873 885667 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Borsch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140181&oldid=107546 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+8) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/107546|107546]] by [[Special:Contributions/Andriy|Andriy]] ([[User talk:Andriy|talk]])
> 1726949949 682182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140182&oldid=140176 5* 03Corbin 5* (+98) 10There used to be an incorrect redirect here.
> 1726950003 642902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140183&oldid=140180 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+109) 10Distinguish confusion, add categories
> 1726950054 492031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E (eeEee)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140184&oldid=140173 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-33) 10Change to wikilink
< 1726950099 435997 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Big thanks to PSDW as always. They are so much quicker than me; I wonder what kinds of tooling they use.
> 1726950257 167312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spaced14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140185&oldid=140087 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+54) 10Categories
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> 1726950524 175676 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07KeyVM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140187&oldid=77566 5* 03Corbin 5* (-18) 10Bluelink E.
> 1726950566 727019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RarVM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140188&oldid=106403 5* 03Corbin 5* (-18) 10Bluelink E.
< 1726950572 431640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
> 1726950730 68199 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140189&oldid=140183 5* 03Corbin 5* (+181) 10Cite MarkM's thesis, as is tradition.
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> 1726951129 246677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140190&oldid=140171 5* 03Corbin 5* (+603) 10Explain how to run Typhon. Just tested this too.
> 1726951632 511871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140191&oldid=139826 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+169) 10/* Files */ Clarifications
< 1726951640 204282 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the APL-like J is the only one I know of – what are the others?
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> 1726951696 600407 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Monte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140192&oldid=140190 5* 03Corbin 5* (+650) 10Mint. Mint. Mint! Mint! MINT! MINT! MINT!
< 1726951880 383092 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: other what? other languages named J? I don't think there's any notable one unless you look at esowiki which has lots of badly named languages, including https://esolangs.org/wiki/J
< 1726951895 618056 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, OK
< 1726951911 544261 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually I was reminded of the various computational models that are named after greek letters
< 1726951915 197471 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lambda calculus, pi calculus, etc.
< 1726951923 364886 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there are quite a lot of those, and don't know if there are any duplicates
> 1726951923 805944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140193&oldid=140167 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+143) 10Categories
> 1726951998 893120 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functioning Mods14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140194&oldid=140170 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-1335) 10Apparent name change
> 1726952039 476470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140195&oldid=139959 5* 03Corbin 5* (+346) 10/* Abstract algebraic languages */ Not why I came over here, but hey, more evidence isn't bad.
> 1726952040 237423 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07JSFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140196&oldid=139253 5* 03Ais523 5* (+312) 10external resource  the 5-character JSFuck derivative
< 1726952076 401723 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: are you sure that BF isn't a concatenative language?
< 1726952251 424380 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thinking about it, in most languages, concatenation is either application or composition; but application isn't associative, so if it forms a monoid it's probably going to be composition
> 1726952443 526245 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Constant14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140197&oldid=134800 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10See also
> 1726952512 738501 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140198&oldid=140164 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+41) 10Stub, category
< 1726952571 828480 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why we name them after animals, there's more choices for animals than for letters in the alphabet, so we have alligator calculus and bird sociology
> 1726952734 694724 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140199&oldid=140198 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+161) 10BefunRep
< 1726952857 212858 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I mean, yes, I'd say that the classic syntax is concatenative, but I'm also not going to push the point if folks don't see it that way.
< 1726952918 599895 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The "every language has composition, every language is concatenative" meme is fun but also a little reductive. Like, the composition from concatenating e.g. Python programs is very fancy and requires a trip up to native type theory: dependent types, category of presheaves, category of contexts, the whole nine yards.
< 1726952948 670995 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Composition in BF still requires forgetting where we started. Kind of like turning the tape into an affine space.
< 1726952953 635407 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, as the languages get more complex you reach a point where it isn't clear whether the definitions apply or how, but I'm OK wth that
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< 1726952993 34843 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I was viewing BF as composition of functions from (tape, pointer) pairs to (tape, pointer) pairs
< 1726953022 373357 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fortunately native type theory is as hard as it gets. The authors of the paper were careful to make it work over any first-order rewritable syntax. But yeah, it's a trip. Two trips if you don't know topoi.
< 1726953023 296518 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although of course, you can remove the need to specify the pointer by keeping it in one place and moving the tape instead (sort-of like how Turing machines were initially envisaged)
< 1726953101 556706 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that reminds me, I found a really eso-interesting encoding of a list in functional languages: [a, b, c, d] is encoded as \f.((((f a) b) c) d)
< 1726953133 470881 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is really elegant in some ways but really awkward in other ways – it feels like a good fit for Unlambda (in the sense of "this initially looks normal but you have to do really weird things to deal with it"
< 1726953140 728423 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mm, yeah. That would work too. That's kind of like a comonadic approach, since the tape and pointers are like a context from which you could draw the next value (to test at the next bracket, I guess?)
< 1726953160 308655 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :)
< 1726953183 836163 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ha, yeah! Those are fun examples of hyperfunctions. I *hate* these, but you can do stuff like eat an indefinite number of arguments.
< 1726953248 481744 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, doing that with an infinite list gets weird quickly
< 1726953255 235537 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doing it with a finite list is also weird, but in a different way
< 1726953322 779060 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Isn't that just the Church encoding for tuples when it's finite? Or maybe I'm missing something.
> 1726953370 326696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140201&oldid=140195 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1457) 10/* Capability-aware languages */ new section
< 1726953370 708759 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: ouch. that's not a convenient encoding because it's hard to know where the list ends
< 1726953416 179028 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yes, it's cursed in exactly the way that unlambda encourages
< 1726953466 488612 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've done some experimentation into writing programs that use it – call/cc seems to help a lot
< 1726953493 640664 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "it's hard to know where the list ends" isn't the most cursed thing about it, trying to deal with two different lists at once is harder
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< 1726953696 511710 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(assuming that you just deal with the heads of the list rather than iterating the whole thing every time)
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> 1726954208 9199 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140202&oldid=140201 5* 03Corbin 5* (+589) 10/* Actor languages */ new section
> 1726954441 611670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140203&oldid=140202 5* 03Ais523 5* (+384) 10/* Actor languages */ are there enough esolangs like that?
< 1726954693 312126 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Not meta, just trying to be efficient: Have you seen https://webperso.info.ucl.ac.be/~pvr/paradigmsDIAGRAMeng101.pdf before?
< 1726954745 626170 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1726954812 838742 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, okay. This thing's super-popular in PLT/PLDI circles, so I guess it's Lucky 10000. I am *very* flexible with how we categorize stuff; I suggested actors because it might fill the gaps WRT our current categories for computational models.
< 1726954850 493719 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw I think there are many combinations not considered on that chart, e.g. languages which have state but don't have an equivalent of a function call/return
< 1726954871 412885 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh yeah, the chart suffers from the gentle tyrant.
< 1726954876 237317 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like the many languages where the only control flow is "implicit loop around program" + sometimes a conditional skip
< 1726954904 790214 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(https://lobste.rs/s/alzaim/thoughts_on_gentle_tyranny_call_return is a fun summary of the discourse around "tyranny of call/return")
> 1726954929 394098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140204&oldid=77943 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10
< 1726954953 788601 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and of course But Is It Art? doesn't fit anywhere on the chart, but then it was meant to serve as a counterexample to a wide range of statements about programming languages, so that's not surprising
< 1726955085 698853 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Isn't that concurrent CSP?
> 1726955112 125463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beefydie14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140205&oldid=133804 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+10) 10/* Impossible Programs */
< 1726955124 463744 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: it's missing many things required by arrows leading to it, though
< 1726955134 615961 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, I could imagine using a CHR language (Constraint Handling Rules, another Lucky 10000, lets you add CSP to imperative languages) to express But Is It Art?
< 1726955137 253809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could implement it in a constraint-solving language but not vicee versa
< 1726955154 820300 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, that doesn't matter. The paradigms aren't monotone or heritable in that way.
< 1726955170 41586 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, the chart seems to imply that they are
< 1726955215 446319 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Have you heard of absorb vs reify? The chart is expressing how intepreters could choose to absorb certain concepts. An interpreter could, of course, reify just about everything; but folks typically take shortcuts.
< 1726955259 960548 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've heard of a lot of definitions along those lines, but haven't got a good understanding of which word represents which concept
< 1726955282 681017 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in particular, I think I've seen "reify" used lots of times with lots of different meanings, most of which are incorrect, but it has made it hard to work out what the correct meaning is
< 1726955334 4572 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, e.g., BIIA? has no concept of unification, which seems fairly core to typical declarative logic languages
< 1726955363 206618 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this context, absorbing just means that the interpreter doesn't implement some facet of the interpreted language. Instead, the interpreter's host language provides that facet. Common examples are call/return, exceptions, FFI.
< 1726955397 31143 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And reifying is what we normally get to do instead. Make a struct, make an enum, make some flags, make a state machine.
< 1726955439 494621 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is absorbing here related to metacircular evaluation? (although not the same, because it's not a self-interpreter)
> 1726955445 111719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bfbf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140206&oldid=98866 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Implementations */
< 1726955459 332531 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, it's like programming only with if blocks and numeric for blocks, you can't exit a loop early
< 1726955470 328210 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah! Or at least it comes up a lot in that context. Because anything absorbed has to be implemented at the "bottom" rather than at some "layer" of the stack.
< 1726955481 255925 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why basic or fortran needs a while or a goto
< 1726955505 883746 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: don't many basics let you exit a for loop early by assigning to the loop variable?
< 1726955516 311281 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or late, I guess
< 1726955543 712501 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I am wondering whether Perl invented the redo; control structure or whether it has predecessors
< 1726955598 265436 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: er, yeah, you can probably do that
< 1726955708 258157 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Okay, so my brain is not happy with me, but I think that BIIA? allows expressing concurrent CSP with the tricky caveat that tiles can appear *more than once* in the witness.
< 1726955710 594546 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I am thinking about how weird C's for loops are
< 1726955752 511225 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well, tiles have to be able to appear more than once, there are finitely many tiles but the language is TC, so it has to get the infinite storage somehow
< 1726955752 523070 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The concurrency comes from the multiple possible widths for witnesses. The constraints are expressed vertically, giving a free temporal logic (whether you asked for it or not). Tiles have to be reusable for multiset semantics to work.
< 1726955799 811701 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: of course it has predecessors! C has three of the four loop control words: goto, break, continue. perl renames break to last and continue to next and realizes that the fourth one is missing and names it redo so all four have four-letter keywords. ruby kind of ruins the four-letter theme by naming one "retry" instead of "goto", but has the innovation where all four work on a method call with a 
< 1726955806 71723 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :smalltalk-like block argument, such that inside the block, redo/next is a local jump to the beginning or end of that block, while retry/last jumps out of the method call.
< 1726955835 718226 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from my point of view, concurrency is something that acts at a different level from BIIA? – the language doesn't specify how the search is done
< 1726955864 732868 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Hm, maybe I don't grok yet. BIIA? is context-free in terms of decomposing the input into tiles, right? What's TC is the language accepted by an arbitrary BIIA? program. Or does the original input matter too?
< 1726955868 820075 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although I have noticed that for search-based declarative languages, breadth-first search and depth-first search give observably different results and both are useful in different contexts
< 1726955900 310012 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so the program is made up of the tiles, and the interpreter tries to assemble them into a rectangle, potentially using tiles more than once
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< 1726955923 501332 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is a TC operation even if you don't have input and ouptut
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< 1726955981 361191 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also perl allows you to label all four control statements, which is much less error-prone than using a number for how many levels to break like dc or intercal do. sadly perl makes the mistake of making the labels dynamic local instead of lexical my, whereas ruby's retry/last is lexical but only works on one level, which is why I aim for the best combination in the esoteric python extension that I 
< 1726955987 369494 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :proposed, where you can break out from any depth with a lexically local loop label
< 1726956006 551203 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when you do have input and output, you can define an interpreter for a TC language in BIIA, but the TCness doesn't really come from the I/O, it's just being used to guide something that was TC anyway
< 1726956037 832916 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Okay, yeah. So I'd suggest that the concurrency required for concurrent CSP is here; in addition to a monotone database which all candidates satisfy, there's one thread for each possible candidate not yet falsified, and they aren't monotone.
< 1726956072 21380 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I observed many years ago that threading and backtracking are quite similar in nature – the primary difference is that backtracking has a defined evaluation order
< 1726956077 606513 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: how would it work if TCness came from IO? do you just mean like a CPU where the run button is broken so you can only run programs by mashing on the single-step button?
< 1726956099 718306 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that's an interesting question, and I've seen plenty of degenerate examples but no interesting ones
< 1726956105 797062 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That monotonicity is driven by the input data. As input arrives, a good searcher will rule out anything which doesn't fit it. If a lot of data is coming in, a good searcher will spend most of its time tessellating with regard to that input data.
< 1726956127 593734 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are quite a few language subsets that are able to operate on nontrivial data structures but not to create one in scratch, so they need to take one from the input to get started
< 1726956184 389253 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could also do it with finite control where there are buttons for each state of the finite state program, and each button only does anything if it corresponds to the next step to be executed, which isn't really interesting, though it can get annoying if it only works if it's the only button pressed
< 1726956252 349765 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's also that Malbolge extension which has an unoutput operation that reads and removes its own output, in order to provide infinite storage, although I've probably forgotten the details because that sounds ilke a PDA rather than a TC language
< 1726956253 393198 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would be even more annoying if there's a "DO" and a "PLEASE" button but the computer aborts if the ratio of your mashing speed between the two don't remain between bounds of 1/5 and 1/3
< 1726956265 334368 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(except for the first few presses where that's impossible)
< 1726956270 57055 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: But I will grant you that I have no clue how to *encode* a given CSP problem onto BIIA? I think it only makes sense for a fairly weird family of problems. Because tiles have to physically connect their extents, it seems like the input data would need to be encoded to have a lot of temporal redundancy.
< 1726956355 225093 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, perhaps n letters of data need to be encoded into an n-by-n matrix in order to be recognized, and perhaps n needs to be rounded up to the nearest prime if you don't want aliasing.
< 1726956364 114926 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I think the way you do it is to have most of the tiles blank, with only a few tiles at the top (or left) of the program storing the input
< 1726956375 466406 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and then there's the languages that require printing a character as output after every step or every loop iteration, like it has a trace feature that you can't turn off, so you can only run programs if you have enough blank printing paper or paper tape
< 1726956444 110073 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :something I came up with a while ago was a language where it mattered whether or not a function did the same thing in two different concepts, and the way that was determined was by checking to see if the function produced the same output (in the sense of stdio/logfile output, not in the sense of the return value)
< 1726956467 965234 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the idea didn't fit into a full language the way I wanted it to
< 1726956477 352195 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*the same thing in two different contexts
< 1726956644 827070 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Anyway, lemme reveal my intuition. I used to room with a former world-leaderboard Tetris player. Tetris pieces come in "bags" for fairness: you're guaranteed to get one of a relatively small number of piece orderings, every time.
< 1726956678 444840 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So a big deal a few years ago was memorizing the "full clears" for two bags, three bags, etc. A full clear is when, at the end of a bag, the pieces all form a perfect rectangle and vanish.
< 1726956733 298558 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess there are languages that are TC but must fill some sort of memory space with time and can never erase memory: BIIA, that restricted brainfuck that can only change cells from 0 to 1, 3SP (if it's TC), the I/D machine, the idealized 19th century mathematician with paper and quill and ink and wastebasket
< 1726956756 254779 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :was this before or after the "perfect Tetris algorithm" was discovered that would necessarily work for any piece sequence that was generated using the bag rules?
< 1726956770 662315 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(although, I think most world-record Tetris players don't use it)
< 1726956774 610007 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BIIA? therefore implements a delightfully natural question for Tetris players, particularly if your implementation prints witnesses and finds multiples.
< 1726956830 324955 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: BIIA lets you arbitrarily repeat tiles in any proportion. Tetris doesn't.
< 1726956845 642923 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with Tetris you're forced to the proportion that the game gives you
< 1726956855 892371 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you're thinking of the two-bag discoveries, in like 2021.
< 1726956861 527080 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: those are only filling memory from a certain point of view, e.g. the I/D machine TCness proof effectively emulates two queues in memory, but one of them is a bit bucket and never read, and the other one can expand and shrink like a normal queue
< 1726956870 802777 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: One sec, but that's an advantage.
< 1726956876 72585 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why in Tetris you can't survive on alternating S and Z pieces, but in BIIA you can by just filling 6 columns with S and 4 columns with Z
< 1726956898 197876 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: although of course that doesn't actually get the corners of the rectangle right
< 1726956933 822326 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes the goal there isn't full clear but not topping out if full lines are removed
< 1726956946 812719 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's proven that you can't do that with alternating S and Z
< 1726956962 298298 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought the specific impossible pattern was a long series of S, followed by a long series of Z, alternating indefinitely
< 1726956967 368215 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rather than just one S followed by one Z
< 1726957000 745070 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there have to be enough to prevent you just putting the Ss in a stack and then putting the Zs in another stack
< 1726957103 69590 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I believe it's any series of S and Z at a 1:1 ratio. the only way to not leave holes is to put only S in some two-column fifths of the board and only Z in other two-column fifths of the board. if you change the pattern by placing an S or Z horizontally, or vertically but not aligned to the fifths, or change from S to Z, then you get a hole that you can't clear without leaving just as many holes.
< 1726957160 545958 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, because the board is 10 columns wide
< 1726957161 111588 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one S then one Z then one S then one Z repeating is already impossible
< 1726957167 223092 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, the board is 10 columns wide
< 1726957182 614675 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my OS came with a Tetris-like game, but the scoring is very different and it makes the game play very differently
< 1726957187 85192 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the height is at least 20 tall but the exact height doesn't matter, nor the rule of what exactly counts as topping off
< 1726957236 295894 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the board appears to be 20×10, and the pieces seem to be selected entirely at random (not with a bag system)
< 1726957281 746067 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, that's old style tetris like NES tetris. very different from modern tetris games, but both styles have an active community playing them
< 1726957287 125061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the scoring system gives a huge number of points when the bottom line is cleared, and the rest hardly matter by comparison – so to score a lot you need to repeatedly get singles at the bottom
< 1726957310 305651 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(especially because the speed of the pieces falling depend on how many lines you have cleared)
< 1726957310 806087 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, *singles* at the bottom specifically?
< 1726957325 525246 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so even a clean tetris at the bottom four rows doesn't count?
< 1726957335 597682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you clear the bottom 4, that doesn't score much more (maybe not any more) than clearing the bottom 1
< 1726957342 417573 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it takes you 4 times closer to the point at which pieces fall faster
< 1726957366 835356 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's innovative, I hadn't heard of that scoring system
< 1726957422 999657 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I knew there are different scoring systems, in particular there are ones that don't reward you at all for multiple lines, and ones that really push you to tetrises and multiples
< 1726957446 232799 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the latter is the most common
< 1726957459 589862 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I knew the former also exists, they just want you to survive for long
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< 1726959157 424668 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Okay, sorry, there was food. There's multiple common board widths (and homebrew boards), so we want a search over all widths. We can constrain it by adding a dedicated horizontal sync character.
< 1726959241 304310 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like the point about ragged boards and S and Z. We can generalize the search by adding e.g. a fill character that indicates where the board is already occupied, and a 1×1 fill tile.
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> 1726977643 8225 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140225&oldid=140222 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+735) 10
> 1726978067 657091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140226 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+833) 10Created page with "ORK: [[Translated ORK/Mihai Again2|]]  1. Drag that piece of shit out again 
 Oh no I'm going so far xD Realize that you are responsible. [07:09] You are The software cannot be installed by programmers. Dangerous product. The answer - Yia's Di
> 1726978137 479812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140227&oldid=140127 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+49) 10
> 1726978218 611747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140228&oldid=139970 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+696) 10/* So where are you from( */ new section
> 1726978242 121858 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140229&oldid=140228 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4) 10
> 1726978644 916753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140230&oldid=140099 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+108) 10
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> 1726979788 46300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unary++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140231 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+2868) 10Created page with "'''Unary++''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] designed in 2024. Unary++ uses the bijective unary number system as source code. To write a program in Unary++, use the following steps:  1. Write your program in [[Unary]].  2. Replace the 0s in the Unar
> 1726979797 734297 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Gilbert18914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140232&oldid=139940 5* 03Europe2048 5* (+185) 10
> 1726980029 880016 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140233&oldid=140193 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+5) 10
< 1726980146 941223 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: In case you didn't read the backlogs, there was an answer to your question: APL isn't a pun, just an initialism for "A Programming Language".
< 1726980174 414905 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726980177 601532 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The author wanted to use it as a blackboard language, expressing common functions with a minimum of symbols.
< 1726980180 591513 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i though that was a joke
< 1726980183 286957 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :about
< 1726980187 213221 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :programming
< 1726980193 764215 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something
< 1726980201 79686 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like how ungenereic it was
< 1726980217 78593 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1726980217 754600 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, sort of, yeah. It was definitely a reaction to the programming languages available at the time.
< 1726980231 926365 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the most generic name, the most ungeneric lang
< 1726980257 134139 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's kind of how I feel about J, K, and Q (and their variants).
< 1726980273 806303 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so not up to date on progrmmming
< 1726980280 820169 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mostly know esolangs
< 1726980283 243362 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no langs
< 1726980293 536766 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1726980301 11624 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the ones iver heard of
< 1726980323 522420 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :How many of https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ do you know?
< 1726980341 739067 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lemme se
< 1726980347 645368 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uu
> 1726980403 868459 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Gift14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140234&oldid=139722 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+120) 10/* This program will definitely output "coal" */ new section
< 1726980472 354160 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :python,c++,java,c,c#,javascript,VB(wheres VBA???),go,sql i think,fortran,pascal and in extension also object pascal
< 1726980600 127392 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :matlab ig,php,rust,r(ive trid to use it),ruby,scratch,kotlin,cobol
< 1726980604 862575 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can program
< 1726980610 739036 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just know they exist
< 1726980720 487372 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, no worries. So here's what I'd suggest: look up each of them (say, on Wikipedia) and look at one fact about their history.
< 1726980744 672441 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from the list that i didnt know?
< 1726980755 877636 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or that you do know!
< 1726980764 824103 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726980771 124974 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik a cobol fact
< 1726980785 589227 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that a bank broke cuz nobody can code in cobol other than truttle1
< 1726980788 108674 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lool
< 1726980789 666033 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Interesting facts include: who designed it, where and when, what influenced them, what they're used for today.
< 1726980791 10630 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*lol
< 1726980799 717083 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1726980805 501404 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also true
< 1726980808 255148 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The stuff in {{infobox proglang}}, basically.
> 1726980822 264838 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFInfinity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140235&oldid=140131 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+191) 10
< 1726980823 306604 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea
< 1726980842 34762 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i love the constant messages from esolangs
< 1726980844 553789 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can go deeper than that, too. Like, maybe there are specific libraries, platforms, etc. associated with them. MUMPS is a famous example.
< 1726980846 930721 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :every now and then
< 1726980877 709799 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :god
< 1726980884 944712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wikipedia is unsable as a danish person
< 1726980903 233381 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :every word is so looooooooong
< 1726980926 667888 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. There's a Simple English WP, but it doesn't have many proglang articles.
< 1726980980 709997 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1726980983 168222 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just
< 1726980985 118508 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holy
< 1726980994 232623 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i could show you an a´rticle
< 1726980997 822659 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*article
< 1726981007 367550 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you would be suprise
< 1726981009 660815 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :d
< 1726981036 840933 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, in Danish? I'm not surprised by long Germanic words. Honestly, I'm impressed.
< 1726981050 121247 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like
< 1726981053 121912 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the problem is
< 1726981056 377032 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have a mechanik
< 1726981060 320694 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :called combined words
< 1726981067 103202 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so to long words
< 1726981074 791577 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can become even longer
< 1726981087 433878 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :happens in translations
< 1726981089 391546 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :very often
< 1726981164 236140 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. I speak Lojban, which has such fun words as {xisyjbenunsla} "Christmas" and {vricykricrutrusi'o} "liberalism".
< 1726981188 373155 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mathematical division symbol (÷) is the same as saying old danish minus(÷)
< 1726981192 280765 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool!
< 1726981196 348427 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo
< 1726981200 554827 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :never heard of it tho
< 1726981208 677924 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Very rare that anything gets shorter or easier in that language. {cicricfoi} "jungle" is another fun one. Or {cirlrbri} "Brie (cheese)".
< 1726981235 283226 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1726981246 137471 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also look what i found out:
< 1726981246 637016 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :named after the book A Programming Language
< 1726981254 62914 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :APL was named after a book
< 1726981286 908668 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah!
< 1726981289 408503 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
< 1726981308 843488 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i know a guy
< 1726981314 936260 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :who is making a general use lang
< 1726981320 490754 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rlly cool
< 1726981323 520724 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :stuff
< 1726981424 423404 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Since folks will ask: "kheess-uh-zhbeh-NUUN-slah", "vree-shuh-kree-shruu-truu-SEE-hoh", "sheesh-REESH-foy", and "shee-urr-ull-urr-BREE" respectively.)
< 1726981537 21667 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1726981800 618461 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :somebody made a rlly funny joke
< 1726981807 7989 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(esolang related)
< 1726981829 721283 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in INTERCAL you need please every now and then instead of do
< 1726981864 810640 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that's a real thing. If you don't say PLEASE often enough, the compiler can reject your program.
< 1726981873 913236 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wish github (something i forgor) were written in intercal
< 1726981878 845633 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1726981884 981476 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt send the whole jok
< 1726981891 547793 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'm going to want IPA
< 1726981927 311946 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no heres the joke: in INTERCAL you need please every now and then instead of do. i wish git PR's where written in intercal
< 1726981963 811099 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've done some INTERCAL. it's actually not that bad once you have a few basic routines written
< 1726981972 337648 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1726981974 913144 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that might defeat the purpose
< 1726982175 283137 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a perosn made a compiler: https://esolangs.org/wiki/RECT4n%3DGLE .why do ppl do dis. this is like my most confusing esolang
> 1726982256 207302 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mildfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140236&oldid=138483 5* 03Yb1 5* (+245) 10comp class, 6 commands not 4, name explanation
> 1726982564 727897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140237&oldid=140200 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+57) 10/* interpreter */
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< 1726983406 502572 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sup
< 1726983414 325661 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have
< 1726983420 486643 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Edited on the wiki
< 1726983425 601818 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I am still relatively new
< 1726983431 206690 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cul!!
> 1726983440 441213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mildfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140238&oldid=140236 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1081) 10i made one!!
< 1726983452 648524 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :E q u a t i o n is my best one so far
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< 1726983573 989237 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if im right 🌐 returns https://esolangs.org/wiki/E_q_u_a_t_i_o_n right?
< 1726983577 633641 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or pushes
< 1726983579 342450 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wutever
> 1726984840 590611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140239 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2841) 10Created page with " is designed by PSTF.  == Language Overview == PSTF: "I'll compile and run every script myself."  == Syntax == This Esolang is based on memory, and stack, and even the STDIN and STDOUT.  I'll directly store data to the memory.  I also have 10 special registers:  # All in
> 1726985081 505479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140240&oldid=140239 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+295) 10
> 1726985125 305547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140241&oldid=140135 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+10) 10
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> 1726987319 549204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140242&oldid=140229 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+116) 10/* So where are you from( */
> 1726987472 406886 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140243&oldid=140226 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+43) 10
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> 1726988018 103695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140244 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+797) 10Created page with "[[Translated ORK/PSTF Again|WTF???]] ~~~~  1. Put the crap in the translator! 
 No No OK Click to make this setting optional Talk, Facebook, MSN and many other things. Inactive storage on disk OK No Click to make this setting optional This is rea
> 1726988061 821869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140245&oldid=140227 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+49) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
< 1726988099 84198 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there any esolangs based on minecraft enchantments
> 1726988888 809195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TWFUNSETDCMFIU14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140246 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+3516) 10This is the basis of a potentially revolutionary language
< 1726989006 319538 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] DifferentDance8
< 1726989016 927587 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm back
< 1726989027 848813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cul
< 1726989063 702774 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This time, I made a WIP project even more ambitious than E q u a t i o n somehow
< 1726989077 547759 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut is it?
< 1726989080 458751 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/TWFUNSETDCMFIU
< 1726989092 40052 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1726989096 909332 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :_The_ first usability not set language to not require spending a bucket-load of money
< 1726989100 482641 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that one
< 1726989142 143804 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I currently did up to the base commands and their descriptions in interpreter A
< 1726989181 812047 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should I increase the count from 35 to 61 by seperating uppercase from lowercase or would that be way too confusing?
< 1726989205 604998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :na
< 1726989207 841952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would be gud
< 1726989315 677321 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, okay. After all, I have to strike a balance between "not a completely pointless language" and "O MA GAWD WHY SO MANY INTERPRETERS?!!?!"
< 1726989336 332285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehe
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> 1726992344 275347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Caker14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140247&oldid=49167 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Implementations */
> 1726992541 484747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Y/Y14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140248&oldid=140172 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* Syntax */
> 1726992679 310308 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cammy/Hives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140249&oldid=128820 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+24) 10/* Tags and Trails */
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> 1726995066 210532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Condit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140252&oldid=140251 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+47) 10
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> 1726995757 784948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck extended14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140254&oldid=132261 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-116) 10/* Implementation */
< 1726997812 396392 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry about my connection
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 Beomil Kirinosa, Beomil Kirinosa, Beomil Kirinosa, Click to link. Lawsuit and forever.
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> 1726999402 499318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140258&oldid=140242 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+654) 10
> 1726999524 839723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Dongbei14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140259&oldid=139934 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+20) 10
> 1726999904 746979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07;;;14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140260&oldid=134905 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+18) 10/* syntax */
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> 1726999985 221648 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle/?++10]] to [[User:Ractangle/Hum]]
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> 1727001032 961111 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140265&oldid=140264 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Interpriter */
> 1727001141 569925 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140266&oldid=140265 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+77) 10
> 1727001149 277644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02User:Ractangle/Hum10]] to [[Hum]]
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< 1727001340 581919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
> 1727001444 75815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spoiler:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140270&oldid=139412 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+68) 10
> 1727001574 985369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140271&oldid=136290 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+105) 10
> 1727001694 217644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140272&oldid=139814 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1727002096 407076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[078ial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140273&oldid=139729 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+72) 10
> 1727002113 450676 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140274&oldid=140049 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10/* 8ial */
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< 1727002130 833344 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm back
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> 1727002332 166788 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Comment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140276&oldid=139567 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+29) 10/* 8ial */
> 1727002530 24732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/ Again (DifferentDance8s Entry Number One)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140277 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+600) 10Created page with "Translating ORK repeatedly has became more of a trend than other languages, so might as well.   Step 1:   Xo Chang x2:n it DiL   _Lock on activation   Words   hide _menu   General   No   Xo Chang x2:n it DiL   _Lo
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> 1727003074 147468 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuckconsole7414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140279&oldid=140278 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10
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> 1727003583 382967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuckconsole7414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140280&oldid=140279 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1274) 10
> 1727003791 979004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140281&oldid=140237 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* examples */
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< 1727003884 353265 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@2a05:f6c2:6b01:0:5e3:83a6:812d:adb2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hallo
< 1727003894 585906 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@2a05:f6c2:6b01:0:5e3:83a6:812d:adb2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i came up witn another esolang
< 1727003904 212600 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@2a05:f6c2:6b01:0:5e3:83a6:812d:adb2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and its name, is a pun!
> 1727003958 300017 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Y/Y14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140282&oldid=140250 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+14) 10Y is not syntaxed since it's not guessed yet
> 1727003995 368395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140283&oldid=140275 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+33) 10
> 1727004012 65553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140284&oldid=140281 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+66) 10fix grammar
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> 1727004154 837144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140286&oldid=140285 5* 03Gggfr 5* (-1) 10/* How It Works */
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> 1727004679 173450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140288&oldid=140287 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+1) 10added a missing closing bracket
> 1727004868 945650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140289&oldid=140288 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+402) 10
> 1727005060 612434 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140290&oldid=140289 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+0) 10/* Example Programs */ Checked with Element implementation, output is "fHello, World!"
> 1727005410 125087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140291&oldid=140290 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+76) 10
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> 1727006718 856081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Gilbert18914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140294&oldid=140232 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+104) 10
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< 1727010524 404368 :DifferentDance11!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :who the hell is using differentdance8 atm
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< 1727010984 590407 :DifferentDance11!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :phewf
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< 1727011009 754756 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well that was weird
< 1727011015 509546 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But now I am here properly
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> 1727013837 768764 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140302 5* 03None1 5* (+519) 10Created page with "[[Translated ORK/ Again R.I.P.]], ORK.  1. Take the rubbish 
 Xo Chang x2:n it DiL _Lock on activation Words hide _menu General No Xo Chang x2:n it DiL _Lock on activation hide _menu No 
 2. Translate, I'll only do 2 translations:  Baidu: Engli
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> 1727013973 47607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140306&oldid=140303 5* 03None1 5* (+45) 10
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> 1727014154 580386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wsad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140310&oldid=124372 5* 03None1 5* (+10) 10Repl moved
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> 1727014290 392369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainbits14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140313&oldid=130781 5* 03None1 5* (+22) 10/* Interpreter */
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< 1727020909 169390 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was EASY
< 1727020941 695866 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :YESSSS
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< 1727021850 413297 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow why so many ppl working on interpreters for 6 bytes of useless element
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< 1727026082 205476 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feedback plz!:https://esolangs.org/wiki/Sorry_the_image_you_are_looking_for_is_copyrighted_lol
< 1727026100 363409 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops wrong link
< 1727026108 11051 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dis one: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Jello
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< 1727026552 207146 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :frick
< 1727026558 522243 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i camn up with something weird
< 1727026575 490979 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :take lambda calculus
< 1727026582 697294 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a term or expression
< 1727026587 623502 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is in a logical statement
< 1727026598 534762 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a proof
< 1727026601 333751 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of something
< 1727026605 914138 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now function application
< 1727026646 111515 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is applying specific axioms
< 1727026649 209575 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to this proof
< 1727026683 16431 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now the result is all the still true proofs
< 1727026688 924698 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since proofs proove axioms
< 1727026698 987833 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the results can be applied to other proofs
< 1727026705 72414 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lambda calculus!!!!
< 1727026767 18989 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, "programs are proofs", one of the many parts of https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/computational+trilogy
< 1727026775 299173 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727026782 846724 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHK_interpretation
< 1727026785 328814 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik 'bout that
< 1727026792 35813 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like my idea is that'
< 1727026802 621042 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we can make non types lambda calculus into proof
< 1727026806 946837 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*proofs
< 1727026868 341278 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*non typed
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< 1727027132 675606 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so how could K look maybe
< 1727027134 359952 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this way
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< 1727027306 170656 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also a function is just a list of theorems and axioms
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< 1727028066 731066 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant do it
< 1727028069 753123 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz somebody
< 1727028075 728662 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to stupid
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< 1727028356 305437 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi, I have a question. Are there any programming languages like SK-Calculus + Haskell's monadic IO? I made normalcalc, which is a language such as one. I think there are already languages with the same concept because of a simple idea. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Normalcalc
< 1727028366 541090 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Motivation: https://tromp.github.io/cl/lazy-k.html#:~:text=The%20fall%20from%20grace
< 1727028831 214882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
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< 1727029156 773036 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: So, the fundamental missing piece is that your proofs are only as typed as your programs. Untyped LC is too wild for useful proofs; look up SLTC, "simply-typed" LC.
< 1727029184 657035 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1727029186 73397 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shimon: Sure, it looks like you're on the right path. You might also find this series interesting: https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/
< 1727029215 726643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1727029237 639157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im talking about non typed LC
< 1727029258 649650 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if types LC can be done in logic
< 1727029264 90806 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then
< 1727029272 756599 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LC must be duable
< 1727029275 886618 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*doable
< 1727029314 709709 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye for now
< 1727029320 10010 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :srry
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< 1727029569 970473 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shimon: for some reason I haven't seen such languages, even though it would make sense even in untyped lambda calculus.
> 1727029941 946336 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140336&oldid=140258 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+125) 10/* So where are you from( */
< 1727030457 997657 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: thanks!
< 1727030626 350268 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs : korvo: thanks, I'll check it out
< 1727031278 887506 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: thanks, that's surprising
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< 1727031486 456505 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shimon: you'll have to check https://esolangs.org/wiki/Iota and https://esolangs.org/wiki/Jot , maybe they're relevant, I don't quite remember
< 1727031496 335142 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and maybe whatever they link to
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< 1727032881 652387 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it seems like Iota and Jot have no IO, but Zot's IO is interesting
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< 1727033620 414550 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does anyone else have any information on this?
< 1727033621 358891 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:973a:478c:9360:c3f3 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does normalcalc have any novelty?
< 1727034042 849581 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shimon: interesting, that's very different from how I imagined this could be done. I feel like in an esolang you shouldn't need a specific >>= builtin to do Haskell-like IO. you can get rid of the >>= by making every IO action come with its built-in >>=, that way there's also less of a chance of type errors. make the runtime call your main function by passing the possible IO actions to it as arguments, 
< 1727034048 856480 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like output 0 bit, output 1 bit, input, exit etc. the main function written by the user has to call one of those functions, and pass a continuation argument that tells what to do after that IO action has executed.
< 1727034080 607216 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I may be overlooking something because none of the many languages based on untyped lambda calculus or combinator calculus does this.
< 1727034131 736743 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doesn't BLC have continuation-based IO? Or maybe that was an extension.
< 1727034292 401341 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno
< 1727034353 266540 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm only awayre of BLC using [Bit] -> [Bit] or [Byte] -> [Byte] where Byte = [Bit] (but of fixed length) which gives you some IO because it's lazy.
< 1727034428 546528 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Continuations are a natural way to order operations though, which is helpful when you want IO. That works in Unlambda too btw; `d` isn't really required (and honestly awkward to actually use for ordering operations)
< 1727034467 354652 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :making it awkward to use was certainly on purpose of course :P
< 1727034554 40914 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's probably a better way to set this up, because this still lets you try to call what should be an IO function, or execute an ordinary combinator
< 1727034660 694608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :One thing you could do is pass special built-ins that cannot be implemented in BLC as extra arguments.
< 1727034684 173964 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it goes against minimality
< 1727034846 839681 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by the way the language passing the IO stuff as extra arguments to main works either way: either if you do pure functional Haskell IO where you must not call IO actions as functions but you have to return them from main, and the unlambda-like imperative way where those IO actions are impure functions that do IO when called
< 1727034866 949303 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the latter is done by some esolang on the wiki
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> 1727040415 277186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish with gotos and input14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140373&oldid=140372 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (-9) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1727040447 103041 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish with gotos and input14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140374&oldid=140373 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1727040582 293237 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish with gotos and input14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140375&oldid=140374 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1727041873 578035 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beefydie14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140376&oldid=140205 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1) 10/* Python */
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> 1727046006 963342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Gilbert189/Iternary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140377&oldid=138345 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+80) 10/* Standard functions */ fixed example of copy
> 1727046050 891400 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Gilbert189/Iternary14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140378&oldid=140377 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+8) 10/* Standard functions */ format fix
> 1727046314 336960 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Gift14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140379&oldid=140234 5* 03None1 5* (+244) 10/* This program will definitely output "coal" */
< 1727047235 454828 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The fonts I had made (which are mostly from rearranging the codes of other fonts but I also made up the braille by myself) are now available with .pcf.gz format as well as the custom binary format, so may be used with X windows
< 1727047296 123852 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: are they at https://github.com/zzo38/scorpion/tree/trunk/gui/font ?
< 1727047565 36044 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes
< 1727047633 698921 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The ".make" file mentions what other fonts they are originated from, and also contains the renumbering of codes and the definition of the braille characters, in case you like to see its working; however, this file is not needed merely for using the fonts.)
< 1727047766 499272 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hope that I had done the XLFD and other stuff correctly in the .pcf.gz files. (For the PC fonts, I used "-microsoft-cp437" as the character set name because another font with the same character set that I had found, uses this character set name.)
< 1727047965 379781 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you know if it is correct or if there is something wrong with it?
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> 1727050852 850488 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bitcoin14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140380&oldid=140208 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+6) 10/* Examples */ Fix cat
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> 1727054275 30230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140381&oldid=140365 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+0) 10Capitalization
> 1727055084 60114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140382&oldid=140381 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10hey bud your not evil :'( you got beef with ais523 and i fully suport you
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> 1727058090 270203 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140383&oldid=140093 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+6) 10/* Interesting minimalization */
> 1727062180 583254 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Disassembly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140384&oldid=130580 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (-1507) 10That was not really an eso lang POOF!
> 1727062189 280195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RainbowDash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140385&oldid=139936 5* 03RainbowDash 5* (-19) 10
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> 1727062924 179843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140386 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+2103) 10Created page with "Made by ~~~~ ==Cmds== 
     Bomb the world using Russia +    Make it Turing Complete -    English || Spanish !   Infinite Loop    Gain Omincience    2-Arity Addition    69  Print `    fString     Exponents     Cle
> 1727062982 855975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140387&oldid=137863 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+17) 10
> 1727062992 511932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140388&oldid=140387 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (-4) 10
> 1727063111 293638 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140389&oldid=140386 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+56) 10/* Cmds */
> 1727063181 783004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140390&oldid=140389 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+22) 10/* Cmds */
> 1727063239 219550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07^/Interpreter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140391 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+85) 10Created page with "[[]]:  `for`$i$i?"
< 1727067389 465112 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
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> 1727076605 370370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140392&oldid=140390 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+41) 10/* Caetergryrpo */
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< 1727077814 358566 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:6dee:ed9e:88ae:29e7 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas, korvo, int-e: there are various approaches, aren't there? thanks!
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< 1727078027 633926 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries.
< 1727078375 823799 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:6dee:ed9e:88ae:29e7 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so far, I haven't found any languages like SK-Calculus + Haskell's monadic IO
< 1727078751 342944 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not even Haskell?
< 1727079061 315770 :shimon!~shimon@2400:4050:9740:1100:6dee:ed9e:88ae:29e7 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, basically, bind (>>=) + return (+ IO)
< 1727079140 496787 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah.
< 1727079176 374639 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k x y = x; s x y z = x z (y z) -- it's been a while
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> 1727085657 964674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 but with only plausible commands14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140393 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+2459) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} ''' but with only plausible commands''' is a derivative of [[]] but all the commands that can't be reasonably coded simply provides an error  ==Commands== 
     "This program is unable to bomb the world using only Russia" + 
> 1727086124 419301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 but with only plausible commands14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140394&oldid=140393 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+87) 10
> 1727086487 406121 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 but with only plausible commands14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140395&oldid=140394 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+86) 10
< 1727086693 484752 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rassum frazzum scrapers again, https://zem.fi/tmp/scrape.png
< 1727086695 358880 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Got an alert about persistent high CPU use from the server.)
> 1727086748 295339 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140396&oldid=133549 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-14) 10/* Examples */ Remove extra spacing
< 1727086955 626869 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sample URLs fetched over 5 minutes: https://0x0.st/XYAD.txt
< 1727086963 387339 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even know what that's all about.
< 1727087249 954827 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe some sort of SQL injection vulnerability in some piece of software that they're trying to scan for, applied to every possible URL.
< 1727087353 727166 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The concat'd bit looks ASCII-like, and spells out ":oyu:BDvHwiuipk:phz:" but that doesn't say anything to me.
< 1727088873 442340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's probably just a random string that they scan for in the response?
< 1727088921 534232 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shouldn't there be a comma after the CONCAT() for this to work
< 1727088927 302004 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, weird.
< 1727088966 995082 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, somewhat. the 1,... padding is an attempt to match the right number of colums.
< 1727088972 354888 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :columns
> 1727089003 35357 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140397&oldid=140347 5* 03None1 5* (+314) 10/* So where are you from( */
> 1727089666 778144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Discordlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140398&oldid=140299 5* 03None1 5* (+287) 10
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> 1727090580 242107 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140399&oldid=140368 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+47) 10
> 1727090624 778137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unary++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140400&oldid=140231 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Conclusion */
> 1727090634 655403 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unary++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140401&oldid=140400 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Conclusion */
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> 1727091456 49831 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140402&oldid=140062 5* 03None1 5* (+289) 10/* I have the same born year with you. */
> 1727091486 248566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140403&oldid=140402 5* 03None1 5* (-13) 10/* I have the same born year with you. */
> 1727092200 704768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UTC+814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140404&oldid=137131 5* 03None1 5* (+108) 10
> 1727092317 957137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:EnGLish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140405&oldid=119299 5* 03None1 5* (+293) 10/* Add a cat program */
> 1727092895 583242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A Very BASIC Esolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140406 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+1018) 10Created page with "A very BASIC esolang is an esolang made by [[User:DifferentDance8]] to push the "Pseudonatural" category to it's absolute limits. Unlike TWFUN, an earlier esolang made by the same person, the name of this esolang was ironic on purpose. (Looking back
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> 1727092988 958220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A Very BASIC Esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140407&oldid=140406 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+270) 10
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> 1727093552 380377 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuckgoid14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140408&oldid=123627 5* 03None1 5* (+59) 10/* Interpreter */
> 1727093580 629600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again 914]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140409 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1111) 10Created page with "ORKsrs5ynrdursrzdrybtyrnuf546rdbtdftbgse4vdrnudr5se4y  1. Drag that big piece of sht out 
 (laughs) _ Other hosts Minority allowable size available size Unmagic Cup: Over-restricted allo
> 1727093660 345750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140410&oldid=140339 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+309) 10
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> 1727094223 59300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again 914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140411&oldid=140409 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+32) 10
> 1727094247 13285 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140412&oldid=140203 5* 03None1 5* (+391) 10/* Redirect Pages */
> 1727094263 632489 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140413&oldid=140412 5* 03None1 5* (+3) 10/* Redirect Pages */
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> 1727094395 181037 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Path10]] to [[Path (masalt)]]
> 1727094395 358219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140416&oldid=140413 5* 03None1 5* (+292) 10/* Categories for type systems */
> 1727094565 28380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140417&oldid=128747 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+164) 10
> 1727094722 333829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:UserEdited14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140418 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+140) 10Created page with "im a little confused. can i add commands or?? [:~~~~:]"
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> 1727094788 875584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/About more Categories14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140419 5* 03None1 5* (+339) 10Created page with "5. Is your category objective? Can every esolang be determined to belong or not belong to the category? --~~~~"
> 1727094821 198054 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (Ractangle)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140420 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1305) 10Created page with "'''Path''' is an esolang created by [[User:Ractangle]] where multiple brackets are used as a part of a code ==Syntax==  (...) pushes the length of the contents surrounded by curly brackets  [...] comments  <...> manages the program execution state  {...} exec
> 1727094838 30940 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140421&oldid=128337 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+60) 10/* Language specifications */
> 1727094854 57581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/About more Categories14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140422&oldid=140419 5* 03None1 5* (-3) 10
> 1727094865 514408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (masalt)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140423&oldid=140414 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10
> 1727094913 357630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140424&oldid=140420 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+45) 10
> 1727095098 849627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140425&oldid=140421 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+27) 10/* Language specifications */
> 1727095544 502478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140426&oldid=140425 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+134) 10/* Language specifications */
> 1727095761 669768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140427&oldid=140415 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+81) 10Removed redirect to [[Path (masalt)]]
> 1727095811 181252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140428&oldid=140427 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+11) 10
< 1727096159 579547 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Most of it was from two separate IP addresses, so I just dropped all traffic from those and got it from 12 qps down to 3 qps. (Which is _still_ probably mostly not real users, but eh.)
< 1727096352 419321 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :would it be possible to create something similair to javaf*ck in erlang or maybe ruby
> 1727097108 87842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140429 5* 03None1 5* (+509) 10Created page with "Let's make ORK crazier by doing even more translations!  ==Steps== 1. Take this rubbish ([[Translated_ORK/%E7%A3%90%E7%BE%B4%E7%A0%BC%E8%88%AB_Again%E6%8D%8C_(DifferentDance8s_Entry_Number_One)]]) without _ attractiveness Language can _Hide occupation a
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 first of a
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< 1727143030 332552 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thinking once again about a geometric assembly language. It's easy to think about computation in terms of arithmetic because that's been the dominant branch of math for the last few millennia.
< 1727143034 644597 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :And because that was what was easy to implement on silicon.
< 1727143178 549086 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :The main issue I'm having is thinking of memory without using numbers for addressing.
< 1727143355 760304 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Computation in univalent foundations (univalent type theory, cubical type theory, etc.) is geometric. I'd be interested in reading your notes.
< 1727143409 732771 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, for this channel, it's worth remembering that e.g. analogue water computers were a thing. Tide clocks, programmable looms, certain kinds of ciphers.
< 1727143465 98950 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hppavilion[1]: Have you seen simplices (simplicial complexes) or opetopes? These are structures where the path to a particular vertex/node is not a number, but another structure.
< 1727143494 220022 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, there's lots of those, like operads, but simplices and opetopes have the fun property that the path-structures are the same type as the container-structures.
< 1727143502 335430 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wow this conversation immediately left my mathematical knowledge lmao
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< 1727143856 220170 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :True; I'm thinking euclidean geometry, where operations revolve mostly around points (and lines and circles but those are really just ways to make more points)
< 1727143856 225599 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sorry! Ignore me for a moment. What are you working on? What's on your mind?
< 1727143857 447666 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Assembly languages typically work by performing arithmetic operations on stored integers in a small collection of registers, like taking r1 and r2 and putting their sum in r3. I'm considering a language where registers hold points in a 2-dimensional space, and the operations are geometric operations on those points, like taking the midpoint of r1 and r2 and placing it in r3.
< 1727143907 871951 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, yeah, makes sense. Are you thinking of what real hardware could implement, or is this more of a fantasy language?
< 1727143952 4768 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Note that I'm not talking about something like a 64-bit register holding two floats designated (x, y); as far as the virtual machine is concerned it's just points, no coordinates (think Euclid, not Descartes)
< 1727143970 130134 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :More the latter.
< 1727144042 125878 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, sure. One thought is about the nature of registers. A register doesn't really hold a value; instead, *all* of the registers are piped from one place to another alongside the ALU, and the ALU *ignores* the registers that aren't being used. (Aggressive oversimplification, sorry, trying to make a point.)
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< 1727144077 947795 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So maybe there's a similar geometric notion of distance betweeen points. Not for coordinates, but for being near enough to use in operations.
< 1727144085 12250 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Go one level up and think of it as a mathematical model, not as physical implementation
< 1727144114 3452 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like compass-and-straightedge construction?
< 1727144147 534010 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes; an assembly language which performs compass-and-straightedge constructions rather than arithmetic constructions (so to speak)
< 1727144255 396916 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mmm, good times. So, for that sort of construction, it might be worth knowing that we've historically made sense of that geometry by turning it into algebra.
< 1727144283 231401 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are we back on Descartes and analytic geometry?
< 1727144322 742829 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, Gauss, really. Coordinate-free manipulations of geometry which -- under some chosen metric -- can be evaluated arithmetically.
< 1727144381 452052 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not saying that you have to do that, but I'm saying that you might find it hard to convince other people to not do it.
< 1727144470 235134 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmmmm, I feel like I might know what you're talking about but not by name. I was last looking at Hilbert's axioms.
< 1727144583 375221 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a name for what you're talking about so I can review it?
< 1727144604 629795 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gauss showed which regular polygons are constructible. Another classic example is the impossibility of trisecting angles. These proofs are fundamentally non-geometric, which is part of why trisector cranks still exist today.
< 1727144765 421868 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ahhhh
< 1727144963 35985 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another thing crucial to this is that the I/O would be geometric as well. Picturing a higher-level (non-assembly) language for a moment, rather than printing text (sequence of integers interpreted as characters) one would draw curves on a canvas, and rather than taking text input one might take a point as input (like a spot that's clicked)
< 1727145028 129054 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you might want to check if a point is inside a circle. Except there's no notion of circles in the assembly, so what you'd be doing is checking if the input point is closer to the circle's center than some designated point on its circumference.
< 1727145078 488393 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if I can avoid having something analogous to the flags register without it being contrived
< 1727145200 705854 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually implementing an emulator for this on a real computer would probably require the points to be floating point pairs. That or complicated OO algebra bs but ew.
< 1727145457 748718 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that existing games built around this stuff, like Euclidea, use the lines-and-points axioms. (Are those Hilbert's or Tarski's? I don't remember.) To compare line lengths, they probably compare algebraic expressions generated from the first line on the board.
< 1727145480 32223 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hilbert's I believe
< 1727145535 391779 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :tarski's axioms exclusively deal in points
< 1727145601 769094 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :(though the congruence relation intuitively works with 2 line segments, it's strictly a relation on 4 points)
< 1727145630 150029 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :which incidentally makes Tarski probably the best place to start, since there's only one data type (points) rather than two (lines and points) or three (lines, points, and circles)
< 1727145886 765595 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that makes sense. Also removes the temptation to generalize and go full Grassmannian.
< 1727146038 754395 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm in an ARM assembly class rn so that's gonna influence what comes out in the end. I think the only concession I need to make to arithmetic will be the actual integrally-indexed assembly instructions (no computed jumps since that would require you to... compute a number)
< 1727146301 356748 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Very cool. Feel free to share what you come up with.
< 1727146307 416148 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of course
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< 1727148182 769942 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :It *would* be possible to just coerce all points to algebraic numbers represented in a canonical form... that would make comparing the equality of points feasible.
< 1727148217 493262 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@49-147-42-72.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :(whereas with points represented by floats two points that should be the same would likely happen to be different
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> 1727183308 678536 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bundle Bungle14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140584 5* 03RhubarbJayde 5* (+6349) 10Created page with "Bundle Bungle is an esolang created by [[User:RhubarbJayde]] in 2024. It operates on a "quasi-stack", which is a data structure with a read head, where pushing and popping act at the read head and don't automatically move it.  A quasi-stack can obviously emul
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> 1727183468 542511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140586 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+235) 10Created page with "MSFE # is an extension of Ministringfuck. It is stack based. I have extended + and in MSFE #. However, this function is completely different. We execute instructions based on the number of +. Here I will list instructions. (writing...)"
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> 1727184706 652565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140588&oldid=140586 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+2900) 10
> 1727184753 90234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140589&oldid=140588 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+56) 10
> 1727184912 665047 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Cycwin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140590&oldid=140567 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+17) 10
> 1727184930 250475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Cycwin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140591&oldid=140590 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+2) 10
> 1727186732 126422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainflop14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140592 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+186) 10Created page with "is there a ''proof'' that this is TC?? [:~~~~:] (note: if not i will delete the category of TC'ness)"
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> 1727187007 792776 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140593&oldid=140589 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+122) 10machine translated instruction description -> human translated instruction description
> 1727188579 936029 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Untotal Array Changer14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140594 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+319) 10Created page with "'''Untotal Array Changer''' is a version of [[Array Changer]] with a single new command == new command == this new command is:  (P) where P is a program treat P as a single command == infinite loop i think but its incomplete and a proof of co
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> 1727189343 863581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140596&oldid=140548 5* 03None1 5* (+46) 10/* Tests */
> 1727190269 218733 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flow Uncontrolled14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140597&oldid=137197 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (+3) 10fixed a mistake in the 99 bottles of beer program
> 1727190340 20913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flow Uncontrolled14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140598&oldid=140597 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (-3) 10oh wait there was actually no mistake
> 1727190352 275023 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:BeerLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140599 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+169) 10Created page with "what do you mean ) makes it TC. ill delete that category that's not enough [:~~~~:]"
> 1727190656 675515 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flow Uncontrolled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140600&oldid=140598 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (-1) 10
> 1727190871 85045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140601&oldid=140565 5* 03Corbin 5* (-343) 10/* Interpreters */ Give a working Python program; the existing program had a SyntaxError buried under all of those redundant list operations. Tested locally.
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> 1727203210 256844 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bigfun14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140603&oldid=140484 5* 03Pro465 5* (+19) 10/* Description */
> 1727203717 255287 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bigfun14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140604&oldid=140603 5* 03Pro465 5* (+314) 10/* Examples */ add program producing number much greater than graham's number
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> 1727208052 803288 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bigfun14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140605&oldid=140604 5* 03Pro465 5* (+1501) 10/* a number much greater than Graham's number */ add explanation
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> 1727209327 59853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140607&oldid=140606 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1) 10
> 1727209537 731688 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/hacker.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140608 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+94) 10Created page with "* {background-color:black !important; color:whitesmoke !important;} a {color:lime !important;}"
> 1727209699 877624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Hackertheme.png10]]": from this own wiki, page shown is written by me, theme is by me, theme is on wiki, therefore completely safe for uploading
> 1727209813 239133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140610&oldid=138974 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+524) 10
> 1727209942 512631 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07248434550814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140611&oldid=139485 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-12) 10/* hello world */
> 1727210022 22997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07248434550814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140612&oldid=140611 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-27) 10/* truth machine */
> 1727210722 295080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140613&oldid=140595 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+68) 10Wrongtitle, link, categories
> 1727210890 97823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140614&oldid=140566 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+140) 10Categories
> 1727210901 198436 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140615&oldid=140614 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10Category
> 1727210948 532098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MiniStringFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140616&oldid=139256 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10/* See also */ Add
> 1727211065 71578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Array Changer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140617&oldid=136395 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+49) 10See also
> 1727211165 661051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Array Changer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140618&oldid=140617 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+38) 10Category
> 1727211215 558493 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Untotal Array Changer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140619&oldid=140594 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+155) 10Categories
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> 1727211382 277978 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5*  10moved [[02User:Tommyaweosme/hacker.css10]] to [[User:Tommyaweosme/themes/hacker.css]]
> 1727211747 22134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/sandbox lingojam14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140623 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+18) 10Created page with "'onele' ''double''"
> 1727211772 20478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/sandbox lingojam14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140624&oldid=140623 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+46) 10
> 1727211868 244136 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140625&oldid=140558 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+14) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ Add
> 1727213714 33711 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/sandbox lingojam14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140626&oldid=140624 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+47) 10
> 1727213739 497395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07T3rc+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140627 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1163) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} t3rc+ is an extension is [[To The Top Right Corner|t3rc]] == commands ==   work the same by moving the pointer but not actually outputting  ; output cell at pointer  \ toggle output cell at pointer every arrow  : input cell at pointer  0-z[] do commands
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> 1727219325 452551 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140631&oldid=140630 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10/* 429 Too Many Requests */
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 rather than using the abbreviation
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> 1727240918 313650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140652&oldid=140651 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+352) 10/* Language specifications */
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> 1727242491 818072 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140653&oldid=140652 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+137) 10/* Language specifications */
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> 1727243298 988047 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Iddi01 5*  10New user account
> 1727244100 406548 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140654&oldid=140005 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+151) 10
> 1727244401 991105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Colors14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140655 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+3819) 10NOTE: I thought TWFUN and E q u a t i o n were my most ambitious esolangs. Oh, how I was wrong...
> 1727244570 739424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DifferentDance814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140656&oldid=140065 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+220) 10
> 1727244626 869763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140657 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+459) 10Created page with "'''Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly''' is an esolang
> 1727244702 722958 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140658&oldid=140657 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+9) 10
> 1727244732 161931 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Colors14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140659 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+401) 10Created page with "== This isn't really "unimplemented" == Technically, I have made a interpreter. However, it was extremely broken and I couldn't figure out what was wrong. When it wasn't saying "Cursor has gone out of bounds", it was doing nothing at all. It was in Python, wh
> 1727244988 384863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140660&oldid=140658 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+542) 10hell yeah this is exactly the esolang i need after racking my brain in half with colors
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> 1727245270 714448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140661&oldid=140660 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-412) 10Somebody didn't read the text
> 1727245334 35738 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Filename "main.py" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly10]] to [[Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly]]
> 1727245375 95899 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140664&oldid=140662 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+140) 10
> 1727245422 91393 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140665&oldid=140664 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+19) 10
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> 1727245739 805332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140666&oldid=140665 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+53) 10
> 1727245778 153196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140667&oldid=140666 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-16) 10
< 1727245902 319371 :DifferentDance8!~Different@65.181.23.234 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] DifferentDance8
> 1727246236 273986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140668&oldid=140667 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+42) 10
> 1727246324 709895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140669&oldid=140668 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+7) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727246541 379542 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140670&oldid=140669 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+102) 10
> 1727246660 390920 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (masalt)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140671&oldid=140423 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-17) 10
> 1727246673 478787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140672&oldid=140461 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10
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> 1727251564 17527 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Coffeeenjoyer 5*  10New user account
< 1727252205 829198 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown
> 1727252867 568832 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interpret Esolangs Online14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140673&oldid=137545 5* 03None1 5* (+86) 10/* How to help */
> 1727252886 278454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interpret Esolangs Online14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140674&oldid=140673 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10/* How to help */
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> 1727257984 999668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish()14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140675 5* 03None1 5* (+439) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=Deadfish[]}}  {{lang|n=Deadfish[]|a=User:None1|f=[[Deadfish]] but with while loops}}  ==New commands==  [''code'']: while the accumulator is nonzero, execute ''code'' ==Examples== ===[[Truth Machine]]===  o[o] This is a 0-input program, insert an  1727258027 552118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140676&oldid=140625 5* 03None1 5* (+45) 10/* D */
> 1727258183 307065 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140677&oldid=140308 5* 03None1 5* (+64) 10/* My Esolangs */
> 1727258853 654103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140678&oldid=140670 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-37) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727258870 311924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140679&oldid=140678 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727258887 708913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140680&oldid=140679 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727258905 284590 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Iddi0114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140681 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+40) 10Since it's likely my biggest contribution to the community
> 1727258929 805808 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140682 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+965) 10The other list is cluttered too much
> 1727258943 671574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140683&oldid=140680 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727259088 291652 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140684 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+7347) 10lenum is much harder than it looks
> 1727259294 993647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140685&oldid=140683 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727259307 244487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140686&oldid=140685 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727259517 832876 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140687&oldid=140686 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10
> 1727259548 804519 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140688&oldid=140687 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10
> 1727259578 303915 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140689&oldid=140688 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-6) 10
> 1727259685 437266 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated dongbei14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140690 5* 03None1 5* (+3227) 10Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1}} It is [[dongbei]] but horribly [https://replit.com/@none-None1/Translate-20-times translated 20 times] by google  ==Steps== 1. Original code: 
 # lit. The class Figure, succession of Proletariat # in dongbei, Proletariat is logically t
> 1727259716 963672 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140691&oldid=122173 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+283) 10/* Semi-serious language list */ new section
> 1727259748 658968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interpret Esolangs Online14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140692&oldid=140674 5* 03None1 5* (+31) 10/* Introduction */  Wizzcake and Wizzcake+ are added
> 1727259753 960491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140693&oldid=140689 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+65) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727259762 441439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140694&oldid=140693 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727259783 389019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interpret Esolangs Online14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140695&oldid=140692 5* 03None1 5* (-52) 10/* Introduction */
> 1727259906 49521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140696&oldid=140677 5* 03None1 5* (+35) 10/* My Implementations */
> 1727260091 431821 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140697&oldid=139416 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+186) 10/* CATEGORIES */
> 1727260108 146595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Python' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140698&oldid=140697 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* See also */
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> 1727260320 178396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140699&oldid=140684 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+0) 10/* Implementation */ fix code
> 1727260776 496865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Obscure14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140700 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+1249) 10NOTE: i got permission from i_eat_coffee in order to make this article (src: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/8152004/)
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> 1727260851 710460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DifferentDance814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140701&oldid=140656 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+45) 10
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> 1727261187 225709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140702&oldid=140694 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+33) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727261227 634065 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140703&oldid=140702 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+33) 10/* Examples */
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< 1727261672 391696 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: the channel logs website apparently has the usual problem
< 1727261798 622565 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ugh.
< 1727261805 605552 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should put an alert on it.
< 1727261875 58830 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In fact, now that I think of it, I do already have a HTTP black-box probe on it, but it's pointed at the / path, which *used* to work, but after the Libera move it's now served by nginx (since it's a static page) and not the log-server, so it's stopped working.
< 1727261907 790642 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It should have the courtesy of breaking when I'm not at work and could justify spending the time to debug it.
> 1727262102 844845 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140704&oldid=140699 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+105) 10/* Examples */ How did i forget the truth machine
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> 1727263626 640296 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140705&oldid=140682 5* 03None1 5* (+17) 10/* B */
> 1727263637 14860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140706&oldid=140705 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* F */
> 1727263784 280048 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140707&oldid=140691 5* 03None1 5* (+486) 10/* Semi-serious language list */
> 1727263799 620563 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140708&oldid=140706 5* 03None1 5* (-63) 10/* Remove this section when languages are added */
> 1727263823 371419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140709&oldid=140708 5* 03None1 5* (+15) 10/* C */
< 1727263879 806059 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe, that's a fun way to make a test false pass
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< 1727264143 943962 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :WHAT THE HECK? this code works if I pass a constant to this function but not if I pass a variable with the same value? what's wrong with referential transparentiality these days?
< 1727264277 59246 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds fun
< 1727264312 434104 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(you didn't specify a language; could it be something silly like a type mismatch?)
< 1727264332 630676 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::t 1
< 1727264333 752281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :Num p => p
< 1727264466 328302 :fowl!~fowl@user/fowl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1727264509 931956 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's VBA, so it can be because the function takes that argument by reference, even though it doesn't make sense in context to change it. further, VBA has this stupid complication where you normally assign a variable using Let, except you assign an object to a variable with Set, and if you Let to a variable that already contains an object then it
< 1727264510 431903 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesn't assign but just call a magic method in that object, and I have no idea how the heck you're supposed to reset a variable to where it doesn't contain an object
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> 1727265063 285036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainflop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140710&oldid=140635 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+123) 10
> 1727265066 287765 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140711 5* 03None1 5* (+537) 10Created page with "[[Translated ORK/Mihai Again4|This]] is not crazy enough, so let's be crazier!  1. Original code: 
 ! The meaning of Japan and Japan humanity. ! Rubber, two, rig, fox cgi Limited only ! The meaning of Japan and Japan humanity. No secret! I want your
> 1727265463 651828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140712&oldid=140610 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-3) 10
> 1727265630 569414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140713&oldid=140712 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+173) 10
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< 1727266333 886397 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, this seems reproducible, my workaround will be to write x - 0 instead of just x as the argument because passing x (a plain variable) doesn't work. ouch.
< 1727266451 977009 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't just pass a constant because, you know, then I'd need string eval or something
< 1727266491 560799 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib????
< 1727266510 919443 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it you b_jonas or wut??
< 1727266522 721634 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also hello
< 1727266539 103855 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :f(11) works, f(10+1) works, x=10+0: f(x-0) works, x=10+0: f(x) fails
> 1727266611 721662 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140714&oldid=140233 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+3) 10/* commands */
< 1727266612 834453 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am b_jonas at my dayjob work office, the "wi" stands for "work", I changed from "wo" to "wi" to make fizzie's logs show the nick in the correct green color
< 1727266630 67274 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh kk
< 1727266643 455502 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also how does the colors work???
> 1727266772 788682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140715&oldid=140061 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+242) 10/* With padding at top-left */ Added a example!
> 1727266829 272775 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140716&oldid=140110 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+10) 10/* combinators */
< 1727266859 954768 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the colors are computed from the nickname, look it up in https://github.com/fis/esolangs
< 1727266869 43361 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1727266972 139045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FROSTWIRE-66614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140717&oldid=140716 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+32) 10
> 1727267295 940081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140718&oldid=140711 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+204) 10
> 1727267553 128861 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140719&oldid=140714 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+518) 10/* commands */
< 1727267562 808511 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :add new LOOOOOOOONG operator
< 1727267602 960407 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*added
< 1727267731 856967 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname
< 1727267791 648038 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wonder if its TC
< 1727267793 562396 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmm
> 1727268010 63516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated SRL++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140720 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2184) 10Created page with "[[SRL++]] but worse with Google Translate and weird language pairs! ~~~~  1. Take this example 
 # Set up initial state. We use the amount of Is in count to keep track of beer .* _ count IIIIIIIII I count count IIIIIIIIIII (I+) count count >\1< .* _ num 99
> 1727268520 51592 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140721&oldid=140458 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+194) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727268552 379439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140722&oldid=140721 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+0) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727269158 346059 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MSFE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140723&oldid=140613 5* 03Cycwin 5* (-2314) 10
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< 1727269754 319122 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW
< 1727269887 198042 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
> 1727269945 736544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140724&oldid=140696 5* 03None1 5* (+79) 10/* My Esolangs */
< 1727271600 390748 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Colors are computed by using this function https://github.com/fis/esolangs/blob/master/esologs/format.cc#L384-L389 to pick a number between 0 and 9 inclusive, which then corresponds to one of these 10 CSS classes https://github.com/fis/esolangs/blob/master/esologs/web/log.css#L86-L95
< 1727271629 585697 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
> 1727272282 112921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140725&oldid=140719 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+4) 10
< 1727272324 159505 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what computational class do you expect this to have?:
< 1727272324 659677 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brugtiohell
> 1727272929 121354 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140726&oldid=140725 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+94) 10/* commands */
> 1727273732 497544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07;;;14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140727&oldid=140260 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+9) 10
> 1727274795 635314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140728&oldid=140283 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+32) 10/* esolangs */
> 1727275553 362521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140729&oldid=140653 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+2) 10/* Language specifications */
< 1727278396 139755 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname
< 1727278540 830991 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
> 1727279152 843981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140730&oldid=140728 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* esolangs */
< 1727281372 92639 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Why would the class have changed?
< 1727281416 392494 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unrelated: I'm currently saying that the busy-beaver region with intepreters is the "universal regime", or that it shows "universality". I want to do something similar for metainterps. Suggestions?
< 1727281437 179246 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I initially wanted to go with "Futamura regime" but I'm not sure if that's appropriate.
< 1727282919 530549 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...what do you mean?
< 1727282988 773658 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Metainterpreters and specializers are always more complex than interpreters. Futamura made this statement precise.
< 1727283039 175473 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sorry, that's probably not helpful. There's a sharp difference between a program which *interprets* some input language, and a program which *specializes*, compiles, translates, or partially evaluates some input language *with respect to some second input*.
< 1727283040 394068 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Futurama regime )
< 1727283059 951323 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehe
< 1727283076 770569 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but korvo we dont know thy class
< 1727283096 888721 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: It's still got S and K.
< 1727283104 368783 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1727283117 231967 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i even made a section saying not commands
< 1727283126 467182 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are there to explain the other commands
< 1727283220 138680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i said
< 1727283230 130347 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^^^not commands^^^ to clarify this
> 1727283293 767064 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140731&oldid=140726 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+6) 10/* commands */
< 1727283296 902152 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: your S is wrong, it's \f g x. f x (g x); you have f and g swapped.
< 1727283318 238027 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doesn't matter. They're *constructible* from primitives. Welcome to Turing-completeness; we don't care about primitives, but emergent behaviors.
< 1727283335 28418 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway I don't know what the language you're trying to describe *is*.
< 1727283364 991235 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have all those external references but no readable grammar for the language you intend to define.
< 1727283381 319414 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW
< 1727283392 894299 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did you answer or?
< 1727283398 401972 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i disconnected
< 1727283398 407163 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And after that there's still semantics to pin down.)
< 1727283405 607078 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so check the logs
< 1727283510 777719 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: wut??
> 1727283515 483684 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140732&oldid=140731 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* commands */
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< 1727283547 264920 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: If a subset of your language is TC, then so is the whole language: just program in the TC subset and ignore the rest of the functionality.
< 1727283565 726441 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway I don't like this trend... weird machines (that's a term of art, cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_machine ) have their place, but analysing them without a target gets tedious and boring very quickly.
< 1727283573 592261 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. but wut is this subset??
< 1727283578 840295 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :S and K.
< 1727283589 32776 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry
< 1727283590 310406 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but
< 1727283591 597973 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :god
< 1727283600 853597 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how many times do i have to say. they are no commands
< 1727283614 163842 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do you get S and K with the built in commands
< 1727283627 172139 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked you and you gave them.
< 1727283647 730240 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1727283665 562955 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1727283671 399645 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked you whether S and K were constructible. You said that they were and added them to the wiki page.
< 1727283684 350636 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the second list just defines all the crap used in the first list in an attempt to specify the semantics
< 1727283688 904898 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did i???
< 1727283690 664309 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well
< 1727283694 504632 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then i didnt mean it
< 1727283705 715012 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or you misunderstood me
< 1727283767 795248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I did not read most of what was written here, mind you. But I'm fairly sure that's the intent of that page.
< 1727283802 493536 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Ah, I see. I had it backwards.
< 1727283844 990906 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: If you're presenting a combinator calculus, *present it*. How would you feel if you read through the Python or Perl docs and found a section that says "oh, this works the same as in C"
< 1727283874 105462 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Those languages *do* that shit, and so Python and Perl hackers have to know C in order to know those languages. They have an excuse: they used libc in their reference implementations.
< 1727283883 733582 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk how i would feel.
< 1727283915 935499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(`) makes no sense to me either. Unlambda's ` is *syntax*, not an operator.
< 1727283928 544818 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait wut
< 1727283931 853730 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i though it was
< 1727283933 833451 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well
> 1727283960 53384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140733&oldid=140732 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+40) 10/* commands */
< 1727283974 338683 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What you call "operator" is typically called "combinator". A combinator takes some parameters and returns an applicative tree of those parameters. If it doesn't do that, then it's *not a combinator*.
< 1727283998 933859 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1727283999 957330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The nice part of this (and what you're missing) is that therefore we can give a combinator calculus by giving the trees generated by each combinator.
< 1727284016 698446 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, in `K x y = x`, we're saying that we take two parameters and produce a tree whose root is x.
< 1727284028 335850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`AB is notation for what would usually be written as (A B) (coupled with a convention for omitting parentheses)
< 1727284030 929385 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :AB? No such file or directory
< 1727284060 925521 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In `S x y z = ((xz)(yz))`, we're saying that we take three parameters and put them into a tree whose root is an application of two branches, each of which is also an application.
< 1727284080 963059 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727284086 322130 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The notation isn't super-important. The behavior of the combinator -- purely being a *combination* of its parameters -- is what's important.
< 1727284098 427124 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yesd
< 1727284174 426646 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, what's the tree for `ε x`? What you've given is that it builds a tree which applies ε to x. But ε isn't a parameter!
< 1727284183 640113 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: Anyway, the way forward is probably for somebody who cares about the language (you?) to actually implement a translation of it to lambda calculus or maybe combinatory logic. And then start enumerating small terms (programs) and reducing them to normal form to see whether some small normal forms arise. Ideally you'd find K and S that way.
< 1727284223 25632 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes im trying. i just want to know wut other ppl think._.
< 1727284231 960006 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: Trying to implement the language could also help you to actually specify it properly.
< 1727284246 500652 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk how to do that
< 1727284250 285537 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i onoly know python
< 1727284261 222975 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and idk how to evaluate lambda expression nomrally
< 1727284327 223033 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with how python works
< 1727284364 281799 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ε x assumes variable
< 1727284368 183888 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*variables
< 1727284371 359437 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So start with SKI or BCWK combinatory logic (the advantage being that you need no substitutions or variables). So maybe learn that first! It's an easier target for sure.
< 1727284391 266385 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik about SKI and BCKW. yea ill try
< 1727284451 800177 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The thing about programming is... you can't learn it without getting your hands dirty. But you /can/ pick easy targets.
< 1727284459 236290 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727284513 1246 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does there exist a function that works like I in normal LC but even thoughh its a normal function the input *somehow* comes from the left and not right
< 1727284661 90741 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe you could learn Scheme, wWwwW32
< 1727284676 437383 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shceme?
< 1727284683 926444 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a programming language
< 1727284700 177898 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant learna. new programming lang. my brain cant do that
< 1727284704 777740 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im learning french rn
< 1727284707 605892 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do you think that ?
< 1727284708 944208 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats to many langs
< 1727284743 111343 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i cant concentrate. idk how the hell i even learned python
< 1727284749 39663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ski: heh, did that wake you up?
< 1727284760 539977 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1727284760 656150 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :well .. i was already awake, so ..
< 1727284790 315616 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps having a project to focus on would help, wWwwW32
< 1727284809 344756 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea
< 1727284810 814374 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rn
< 1727284824 259416 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats prooving the comp class of brugtiohell
< 1727284930 608958 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill try some stuff
> 1727284945 976166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140734&oldid=140733 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* commands */
> 1727284964 469434 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140735&oldid=140734 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* commands */
> 1727285167 328306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140736&oldid=140735 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-54) 10/* commands */
< 1727285305 353429 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1727285312 905905 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I DON NEED A COMPILER
< 1727285315 819916 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can use lambster
< 1727285318 761220 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lets goooo
> 1727285639 53349 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140737&oldid=140736 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-36) 10/* commands */
< 1727285684 94515 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no
< 1727285685 494409 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1727285968 644538 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: You don't need anything besides Python for this. Consider: k = lambda x: lambda y: x
< 1727285981 188049 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727285983 533340 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but stuff like
< 1727286003 708179 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lambda x : lambda y : x(y)
< 1727286006 189466 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wotn always work
< 1727286081 486138 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :IME it does work. It is fragile though, you really have to stick with the convention (turn *every* application A B into A(B). So A B C becomes A(B)(C), for example)
< 1727286104 816160 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727286111 829358 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
> 1727286153 12151 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brugtiohell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140738&oldid=140737 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-3) 10/* commands */
< 1727286233 981820 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: Once you do this, you'll notice that you had `e = lambda x: e(x)`. This is circular in the way I mentioned before, and also in a new obvious way: it's eta-equivalent to itself.
< 1727286252 142127 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, `lambda x: e(x)` is just a longer (and less efficient) way to say `e`.
< 1727286334 920686 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn
< 1727286418 420180 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still
< 1727286419 420336 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with
< 1727286421 410128 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :umm
< 1727286422 416717 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Jot
< 1727286425 270443 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Were you hoping for Hilbert's epsilon operator, perhaps?
< 1727286428 350096 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :stuff
< 1727286436 573594 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hilbert's epsilon operator?
< 1727286669 536171 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Never mind. I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to build.
< 1727286679 712709 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1727286971 412140 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there something else you're trying to do besides reach TC?
< 1727286985 378949 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uu yes
< 1727286988 792585 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :get more into LC
< 1727286994 221602 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and see al the stuff ive learned
< 1727286995 807733 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with you
< 1727287033 918455 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mm. So are you studying LC or studying combinators?
< 1727287046 905421 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both
< 1727287053 822760 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since they are related
< 1727287058 406621 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :atleast CC
< 1727287063 966030 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's worth remembering that LC is merely syntax. ULC happens to designate the same system as SK. STLC doesn't.
< 1727287084 90343 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727287085 91573 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1727287144 332458 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( but do you know why? )
< 1727287155 217808 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :na
< 1727287204 516457 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, if you're studying ULC, then there's no point in Brugtiohell; ULC's three term constructors are universal already, and they're so simple that it's not really possible to do LC without them.'
< 1727287218 885911 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik
< 1727287225 883319 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im just intersted in what you can do
< 1727287242 974923 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anything computable.
< 1727287243 354741 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also esolangs keep me sane:)
< 1727287248 517742 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727287257 908049 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but what ca you create with it
< 1727287277 1077 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the point of brugtiohell was the see if you could combine different models
< 1727287307 105445 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's still TC, so it's still designating computable things.
< 1727287322 994194 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is
< 1727287376 934122 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, let's introduce *oracles*. An oracle is like a subprogram or subprocess, except that you have no control over it. You may hear them described as "black boxes"; imagine a black tablecloth that covers the oracle.
< 1727287394 949996 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727287417 252910 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can think of an oracle as a way to embed a separate model. You can either compute with your normal computer, or you can ask the oracle to handle it.
< 1727287433 890003 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :kk
< 1727287479 947015 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm gonna do result first, then jargon. The important result is that, if you can already do anything computable, then an oracle for a computable language doesn't give you any new abilities.
< 1727287507 251239 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1727287600 837725 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In terms of jargon, we say that the class of "recursive languages", called R to be confusing, is "self-low"; this just means that it can't make itself stronger by using itself as a source of oracles.
< 1727287625 652154 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes yes
< 1727287629 809143 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This isn't an uncommon thing. P, the class of problems solvable in poly time, is also self-low, and in fact it was designed to have that property.
< 1727287641 604510 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"called R to be confusing" made me laugh so hard lol
< 1727287674 356027 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, it *is* confusing. There's also RE and co-RE, which are closely related but both weaker. This confusion bites anybody who writes programs to search for math proofs.
< 1727287734 568911 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, sometimes you'll hear people talk of "Turing degrees" or "computability degrees". This is the idea that if you give a Turing machine a *really powerful oracle*, like an oracle that can solve Halting, then you *do* get a power increase.
< 1727287742 861190 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"weaker" in what sense?
< 1727287757 460927 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(IIUC, R = RE \cap co-RE)
< 1727287770 710054 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hole sh*t
< 1727287816 159896 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Ah, good point, my words are bad. I meant logically weaker, but it's actually a bigger class.
> 1727287826 621364 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DAEANAAACP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140739&oldid=121634 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+5) 10need to show User part of link
< 1727287849 806722 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: So, returning to your current project: mixing two different TC systems isn't going to give you something beyond TC.
< 1727287860 808592 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea ik
< 1727287875 44916 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Indeed, you'll sometimes hear folks talk about a "Church-Turing thesis", which is the (unprovable) assertion that we can't build physical computers which go beyond TC.
< 1727287875 57127 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but what i did was a picked unknown class subsets and put them together
< 1727287892 277823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I mostly asked for wWwwW32's benefit, not because I thought you were wrong
< 1727287908 266527 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut
< 1727287912 851862 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im so confused rn
< 1727287920 795710 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. Those subsets aren't going to go beyond TC, not as long as you started with TC as a ceiling. That's what Church-Turing is good for; it lets me assume that you didn't invent something magical.
< 1727287931 579558 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW32: yes, that is normal when you start diving into computability theory
< 1727287955 7743 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yep, no worries. My words *are* bad; I think English WP is pretty good reading for computational complexity, and folks should go there for answers.
< 1727287957 318470 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW
< 1727287966 431747 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :boy oh boy am i in for a ride then
< 1727288042 119052 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: So, for example, let's consider a language defined with LC terms. There's either two possibilities: the language gives ULC and it's TC, or the language can be typed and it's weaker than TC. Those are the only two possibilities.
< 1727288064 274900 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727288084 193478 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Same deal with combinator calculi. They top out at TC in terms of expressive power, and the only open questions are about which bases are TC (or other complexity classes, e.g. with BCI)
< 1727288104 432677 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727288140 366620 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So when you ask "hey is this TC" and it's phrased in terms of LC or combinators, I'm going to assume it's either TC or weaker, and then look for the strongest stuff that can be constructed.
< 1727288158 742657 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727288188 215011 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hopefully my responses earlier make a bit more sense now! I wasn't trying to be dismissive but to show you what parts of your writing were important to my analysis.
< 1727288189 320207 :wWwwW32!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1727288209 480854 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727288210 496631 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx!
< 1727288216 518761 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :makes sense
< 1727288248 913978 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1727288418 348260 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm a little jealous; it's never made sense to me. I just got used to it, as the saying goes.
< 1727288426 827662 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye for now
< 1727288432 849561 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed
< 1727288516 861942 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: this is a bit mean but I think your standard for understanding something may be higher than wWwwW's
< 1727288605 390097 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Oh, you can be mean, I don't mind. I have an *extremely* radical self-concept that, among other things, doesn't really understand anything. I don't know what understanding, knowledge, etc. are.
< 1727288655 20286 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess. I mean I agree in that it's not an absolute... it comes in various degrees and for most subjects, it's open-ended.
< 1727288669 421025 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"it" being "understanding"
< 1727288749 277750 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :("most subjects" - there are silly exceptions like playing tic-tac-toe where you can literally memorize all positions if you're so inclined. Not that you really have to to play optimally.)
< 1727288763 46732 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I literally think I'm a p-zombie. Don't put too much stock in me.)
< 1727288863 43440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION is reminded of the silly strategy in an underspecified tic-tac-toe where you wait for your opponent (let's say they're X) to threaten three in a row and then you complete that with an X of your own...

< 1727288949 727625 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 JOIN #esolangs user3456 :user3456
< 1727288950 958132 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: if so, who are you referring to by "I"... hmm.
< 1727288970 777430 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the chinese room becomes relevant, and that's about as far as my philosophy goes.
< 1727289011 197050 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: (This meatbag is using the standard English pronouns in order to be legible. Don't worry about it. We could always be more confusing.)
< 1727289062 498468 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, *I* can't relate to that experience. But I can't say that it's invalid, obviously.
< 1727289102 388358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I can't explain myself; I'm just taking me for granted.)
< 1727289105 87616 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. It's still good times.
< 1727289106 188843 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(etc.)
< 1727289238 329692 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man there are so many concepts that get a whole new meaning in this context. "self-doubt" is a good one...
< 1727289308 189699 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' alice
< 1727289310 188323 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :917)  but when she saw him fnord and fnord. and then there's the fnord, as well as fnord reading sauce with fish, or fnord, that alice quite fnord for it hadn't spoken before.
< 1727289363 839026 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`w alice
< 1727289365 213483 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​alice//Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1727289377 919336 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmmmm that does not look correct
< 1727289387 438915 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1727289389 97430 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'alice': Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1727289393 559105 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`w alice
< 1727289394 825323 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​alice//Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1727289415 764390 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, the output of `w is not what I'd expect.
< 1727289417 318555 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? alice
< 1727289418 961414 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1727289426 678405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because I used the wrong command.
< 1727289443 520034 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sorry for the noise.
> 1727289741 682730 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140740&oldid=140676 5* 03Pro465 5* (+13) 10/* B */ add Bigfun
< 1727290229 86368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? password
< 1727290231 141283 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The password of the month is BB(5) = 47176870
< 1727290480 420318 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn The password of the month is a matter of ongoing investigations
< 1727290484 824914 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is a matter of ongoing investigations
< 1727290526 699919 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(cutting it quite close)
< 1727290607 465795 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Has it really only been a month since BB(5)? Wow, what an action-packed summer.
< 1727291188 528188 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :A bit over 3 months if you go by https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/w/index.php?title=BB(5)&action=history ...I don't know when we learned about it.
< 1727291235 568601 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's been almost 2 months since the 1st of August when that password was set; September is almost over.)
< 1727292380 101915 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, that feels more likely.
< 1727292418 899733 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The BB Gauge is now feeling like a mature listing. I added meta.bf today and it was only a few lines of work even though I had to add an entire regime to the graph-generation tools.
< 1727292458 945342 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe it's time to put it on front pages. Lobsters for sure. Maybe programming.dev.
< 1727292963 13225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? bb gauge
< 1727292965 869784 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :bb gauge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1727293658 843388 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I should buy a domain first. It's currently just hanging out on GH Pages: https://mostawesomedude.github.io/bb-gauge/
< 1727294033 350604 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1727294073 929781 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* int-e is reminded of the silly strategy in an underspecified tic-tac-toe where you wait for your opponent (let's say they're X) to threaten three in a row and then you complete that with an X of your own... ← there's a variant of tic-tac-toe where either player can add an O or X on their turn, and one player is trying to create a line whilst the other player is trying to prevent a line being created, but a few other changes are needed to make it work (
< 1727294075 378172 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :IIRC a bigger board, and I can't remember whether the lines are also longer)
> 1727294225 700591 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140741&oldid=140707 5* 03Ais523 5* (+706) 10/* Semi-serious language list */ some thoughts
> 1727294326 76233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Snakel logo.png10]]"
> 1727294432 730545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140743&oldid=140703 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+30) 10
> 1727294666 824826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (masalt)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140744&oldid=140671 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+20) 10
> 1727294748 113647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140745&oldid=140416 5* 03Ais523 5* (+526) 10/* Tacit programming */ this seems underspecified at present
> 1727294843 851059 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071CP=1ICL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140746&oldid=140729 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+3) 10/* Language specifications */ Fix table
> 1727295037 691276 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turn Left14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140747&oldid=140554 5* 03Ais523 5* (+14) 10/* Computational class */ clarify
> 1727295071 438897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140748&oldid=140743 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+125) 10Formatting, categories
> 1727295108 369909 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turn Left14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140749&oldid=140747 5* 03Ais523 5* (+22) 10/* See also */ cat
> 1727295151 356763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140750&oldid=140704 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10:
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> 1727295662 529318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Smalltalk14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140751 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+268) 10Created page with "[[FORTRAN]], [[python]] [[c]] [[C++]] [[BASIC]] [[perl]] why??? ~~~~"
> 1727295686 553828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Smalltalk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140752&oldid=140751 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10
< 1727296641 365898 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hmm, what is the Interp(BLC) entry?
< 1727296841 435805 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I can identify that one by comparing sizes, never mind.
> 1727297352 35466 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140753&oldid=140748 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10
< 1727297382 759171 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: It should be merged with the Interp(BLC2) entries though, shouldn't it... it's just taking a wildly different approach (presumably going for efficiency rather than size)
< 1727297441 277363 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: See lambda.json in the source repo. URLs can be put into the sources if there are writeups, arxiv, etc.
< 1727297481 861689 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't mind merging them if they're really equivalent to users. Right now I'm finding it more useful to be picky about the inputs to interpreters and then to lump all interpreters together.
< 1727297489 364295 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's ait/uniK.lam in the AIT repo; AIUI it avoids capturing all the variables in a list; instead it goes for variadic functions.)
> 1727297504 870077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140754&oldid=140753 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+49) 10
> 1727297548 41478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140755&oldid=140754 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-15) 10
< 1727297644 501717 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: looks identical in use to me, testing with the admittedly simple  (cat id.blc; echo -n 0001) | ./blc run ait/uni.lam  and the same with uniK.lam
> 1727297653 537819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140756&oldid=140755 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10
< 1727297678 445055 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :where id.blc is 0010, encoding \x.x
> 1727297683 580623 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Filename "main.sl" doesn't seem to be a valid filename. Please check if the filename your trying to execute is written correctly10]] to [[Bake]]
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> 1727297780 608560 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140760&oldid=140759 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-230) 10
> 1727297799 360410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140761&oldid=140760 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-3) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727297814 75066 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140762&oldid=140761 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727297831 500151 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140763&oldid=140762 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Cat program */
< 1727297844 533975 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Okay, thanks. I'll update that shortly. Every entry should still appear in the tables at the end of the page, even though the diagrams summarize the best WRT size metrics.
< 1727297855 55119 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: oh the issue is different actually. the 232 bit one is mislabeled as BLC2 but should be BLC
> 1727297875 603926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140764&oldid=140763 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10
< 1727297883 735861 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm, okay.
< 1727297902 8444 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(BLC2 uses a different encoding for variable indices; I'm not sure that including it is really useful)
< 1727297916 631102 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but that's not my choice obviously)
< 1727297992 112922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The same can, of course, also be said about the byte-based [8] variants.)
< 1727298088 632293 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's okay if they're not practical; what matters is that they exist and somebody vouches for their correctness. I appreciate your help.
> 1727298094 28825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainmulti14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140765&oldid=127460 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+124) 10Rectified the Kiwiscript example and supplemented a truth-machine implementation.
> 1727298174 44482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainmulti14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140766&oldid=140765 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+214) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Brainmulti programming language on GitHub and supplemented two page category tags.
> 1727298299 430504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainmulti14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140767&oldid=140766 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+163) 10Supplemented further information to the preamble.
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< 1727300339 210622 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Okay, I pushed a fix and also added some debugging code so that you won't have to go JSON exploring next time. Thanks again.
< 1727300476 373409 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: ah yes, having the file name right there is very useful
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< 1727301229 786089 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: oh note that https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/4813/busy-brain-beaver uses wrapping cells. so they results do not immediately carry over to your page. In particular, -[-] would take, 512 steps, I think, in that golfing challenge.
< 1727301286 517345 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. The known values are from another page IIRC.
< 1727301370 643060 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The 10 up (10 up 28) at 41 characters should be fine since it only uses values 0..1. The 39 and 63 character ones are not.
< 1727301578 105371 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I'm not vouching for the 41 character program, I'm going by its description, which contains the phrase "If I'm not mistaken" :-P)
< 1727301672 325612 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks fine; it replaced every [+ by [- and left all ]+ intact, and that covers all the increments except for those in the initialization
< 1727301802 594870 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(ironically I wasn't looking for mistakes... all I really wanted was to understand the entry for 5... and then things got out of hand :P)
< 1727301864 411763 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: anyway, you seem to misremember, I'm afraid
< 1727302153 825652 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, no worries. Happens all the time.
< 1727302347 692143 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Okay, I don't think I have *any* trustworthy list of BF beavers.
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> 1727304148 169425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Zephyr ASDL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140769&oldid=135475 5* 03Corbin 5* (+74) 10Clean up a few links and fill out more of the infobox.
> 1727304709 372759 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140770&oldid=120434 5* 03Corbin 5* (+252) 10Link to one of my favorite Python programs.
< 1727304895 310911 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Well the entry for 5 is fine (and an equality; you need a loop to exceed 5 and ++[-] is basically the only program that accomplishes that. +[>+] is an infinte loop...). And the one for 41 is likely fine too.
> 1727305547 262776 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:198614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140771 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+32) 10Created page with "Languages made in the year 1986."
> 1727305604 987071 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Smalltalk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140772&oldid=140752 5* 03None1 5* (+300) 10
< 1727305641 571510 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah. I was thinking about it and maybe I should write out a script that proves some of the small cases.
< 1727305663 234902 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should probably also do it WRT number of cells touched, since that should be a BB property too.
< 1727305686 161792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does > touch 2 cells? I guess so.
< 1727305712 36560 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, yeah, that makes sense to me.
> 1727305819 900494 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:198614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140773&oldid=140771 5* 03None1 5* (-32) 10No, Category:Before 1993 already includes this, also undiscussed
> 1727305846 443049 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fractran14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140774&oldid=139540 5* 03None1 5* (+7) 10
< 1727306109 163468 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: you can probably extract /some/ information from  https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_constants  (non-wrapping) but it's a different target of course
< 1727306185 386830 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Good point, thanks.
< 1727306524 144910 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Ah, I found Faase's table https://www.iwriteiam.nl/Ha_bf_numb.html This is where my ceiling of 48 comes from, I think.
< 1727306821 847150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: ah that does use the right model. note that for your purpose, you can drop the >[-<+>]< at the end.
< 1727306857 168017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(All that does is move the number from position 1 to position 0.)
< 1727306877 689831 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, good catch.
< 1727307333 769202 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh, why did he change the program that computs 4^4^4^1 into one that computes 3^3^3^2 instead of 4^4^4^2
< 1727307429 657090 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which would exceed 10^2585827972 at the same size.
< 1727307515 808933 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, that's an interesting construction
< 1727307599 550914 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The program that computes 4^4^4^2 would be >+>+>+>++<[>[-<[->>++<<]>>[-<<++>>]<]<<]>[-<+>]<
< 1727307656 30157 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(replacing 3*1 by 2*2 in the inner loop)
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> 1727310385 536630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Smalltalk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140775&oldid=140772 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+230) 10
> 1727310546 22535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Memorial language list14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140776 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+219) 10Created page with "This is a fourth list that lists memorial languages, i.e. ones that are memorial of 9/11, world war II, any major online war event, etc. == Non-Alphanumeric == [[bbtos|BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX]] == 0-9 == == A-Z =="
> 1727310921 857725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bits, 0 Bytes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140777&oldid=136843 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+100) 10/* Command */
> 1727310940 801823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bits, 0 Bytes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140778&oldid=140777 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+3) 10/* Commands */
> 1727311120 32402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140779 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+745) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=[[File:Snakel_logo.png|20px|alt=Snakel]]}} {{stub}} :''This is an interpretation made by [[User:DifferentDance8]] and thus may or may not be accurate to the actual language''  [[File:Snakel_logo.png|20px|alt=Snakel]] is an esolang that would've 
> 1727311171 308138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140780&oldid=140779 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+93) 10
> 1727311278 81350 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140781&oldid=140441 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+231) 10/* I was born 3 years before you! */ new section
> 1727312353 592863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140782&oldid=130046 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1117) 10biggest update in years
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> 1727312381 468777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140783&oldid=140781 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+217) 10/* I was born 3 years before you! */
< 1727312399 913499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well this is fun. >+++++++[-[-[->>[+>]+<[<]<]+>+[>]]>+<<] takes over 3 ↑ 8135830269 steps.
> 1727312400 21609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140784&oldid=139932 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+13) 10
< 1727312508 455238 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Oh wow. Congrats. This is exciting stuff indeed. Those [>] and [<] sleds are suggestive.
< 1727312659 126917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I had an inspiration for implementing a bastardized Ackermann function)
< 1727312730 486414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck it even works with byte-sized cells
< 1727312743 546554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the one number that grows really big is stored in unary
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< 1727313258 481753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh the +< can be replaced by just +
> 1727315047 487708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140785 5* 03Int-e 5* (+1693) 10analysis of a busy Brainfuck program
< 1727315059 699974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: for you: https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Int-e/BFBB
< 1727315270 206259 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'm cackling with delight. Well done.
> 1727315364 863924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140786&oldid=140785 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10fox typo
> 1727315477 928258 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140787&oldid=140715 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+45) 10
> 1727315900 292805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140788&oldid=140786 5* 03Int-e 5* (+160) 10Oh this would be better.
< 1727316347 269017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: obviously I'm wondering whether I'm reinventing a wheel here. it's hard to search for such things
> 1727316512 956427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140789&oldid=140787 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+37) 10
> 1727316624 143744 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140790&oldid=140788 5* 03Int-e 5* (+17) 10fix another typo-of-sorts
< 1727316806 556299 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's new to me, at least.
> 1727318331 738152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140791&oldid=140790 5* 03Int-e 5* (+479) 10Actually analysing the modified version was surprisingly easy.
< 1727318502 518290 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Not sure if you see esolangs, I updated the page with a 37 character candidate (instead of 38) that has almost the same number of steps.
< 1727318513 659142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should sleep though.
< 1727318598 288683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I actually don't know whether that will result in more steps or fewer; probably fewer, but it'll be close anyway)
> 1727318657 466421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140792&oldid=140791 5* 03Int-e 5* (+2) 10no longer a TODO
> 1727318697 176387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Int-e/BFBB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140793&oldid=140792 5* 03Int-e 5* (-5) 10/* About */ ...grammar
> 1727318996 818386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03MihaiEso 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:PIX logo.png10]]": [[PIX]]'s official logo. Created by [[User:MihaiEso|myself!]]
> 1727318998 223041 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Category:198610]]": unapproved category (and redundant to existing categories)
< 1727319230 154026 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah, I see them. Have a good night.
> 1727319336 204977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071L14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140795&oldid=138806 5* 03Ais523 5* (+15) 10+[[Turn Left]]
< 1727319868 406678 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit
> 1727319988 290079 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140796&oldid=140789 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+974) 10Added official logo, as PNG and PIX!
> 1727320025 182953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140797&oldid=140796 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+3) 10/* Minecraft official site favicon */
> 1727320997 232025 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140798&oldid=140750 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+6) 10/* Bf loop equivalent */ I'd meant "relay point"
< 1727321980 487841 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord
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> 1727322037 519812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140799&oldid=128490 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+968) 10/* commands */
< 1727322063 590951 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1727322538 798555 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140800&oldid=140709 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+141) 10Added some languages, still too few
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> 1727326304 35627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140801&oldid=76896 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+91) 10/* A seperate algorithm page? */
> 1727326426 703561 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Macro14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140802 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+46) 10Created page with "can macros be nested. can i do:  a -> (a -> b)"
> 1727327917 660148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140803&oldid=140782 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+52) 10/* ^ENGLISH */
> 1727327981 54964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140804&oldid=140803 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+48) 10/* JAVASCRIPT */
> 1727328207 674636 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140805&oldid=140804 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+12) 10/* HTML */
> 1727328302 848217 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140806&oldid=140805 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+110) 10/* BASIC */
> 1727328497 291734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140807&oldid=140806 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-20) 10/* BASIC (MIHAI POPA) */
> 1727328577 301389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140808&oldid=140807 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+87) 10/* EMOJILANG */
> 1727328593 299887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140809&oldid=140808 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-13) 10/* BASIC (MIHAI POPA) */
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> 1727328664 996376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140810&oldid=140809 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+105) 10
> 1727328733 76093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140811&oldid=140810 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+12) 10/* GAME OF LIFE */
> 1727328786 828824 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lenum14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140812&oldid=140798 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+307) 10/* Examples */ looping counter and f-seq
> 1727330290 57207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140813&oldid=140741 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+403) 10/* Semi-serious language list */
> 1727330701 165986 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140814&oldid=140780 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10
> 1727330740 101365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140815&oldid=140800 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+70) 10Change criteria according to suggestions
> 1727330882 621611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Snakel10]] to [[Snakel (DifferentDance8)]]
> 1727331109 426904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140818 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+125) 10Created page with "Snakel (or '''Python''' in our universe) is an esolang created by [[User: Ractangle]] in 2024 (or in 1989 by Remomple Tengle)"
> 1727331120 334800 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140819&oldid=140818 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+9) 10
> 1727331220 811421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140820&oldid=140817 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+85) 10Removed redirect to [[Snakel (DifferentDance8)]]
> 1727331323 254394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140821&oldid=140820 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+43) 10
> 1727331350 598843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140822&oldid=140819 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10
< 1727331603 3922 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
> 1727333770 671135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (DifferentDance8)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140823&oldid=140816 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+22) 10
> 1727335328 534250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140824&oldid=140801 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+190) 10
> 1727336157 854014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Uppercase=Lowercase14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140825&oldid=136518 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+284) 10
< 1727336529 957474 :dbohdan3!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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> 1727337387 160477 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140826&oldid=140799 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-771) 10/* commands */
> 1727339744 505034 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140827&oldid=128056 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+60) 10/* Computational class */
> 1727340687 632142 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140828&oldid=140822 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+57) 10
> 1727340727 593330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140829&oldid=140828 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10
> 1727340963 993427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (DifferentDance8)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140830&oldid=140823 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-18) 10
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< 1727346897 641146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: on https://mostawesomedude.github.io/bb-gauge/brainfuck.html you should probably clarify whether cells can become negative
< 1727347018 378246 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh actually it doesn't specify the range of values in a cell at all. I thought it said that it was unbounded but I misread yesterday; that was about the number of cells.
< 1727347089 19044 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, from discussion with tromp just now, it's unclear what happens with a program like <+ ...is the program illegal, or does it halt on the first step? or maybe the < becomes a no-op... there are some wild possibilities here.
< 1727347905 70927 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :wildest possibility: use opcodes , and . as well, providing access to binary input that follows the bf program following an unmatched ] separator
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> 1727349682 953968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140831 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4231) 10Created page with "''''(s y ...... ma?) is designed by PSTF.  It is designed for use SC to express [[Sakana]].  == Commands == Unlike Deadfish, this Esolang has commands for handling input, and it uses a memory tape(I call the cell "x") and 4 accumulators(a, b, c, and d).  {| class="wikita
> 1727349751 746725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140832&oldid=140740 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+25) 10
> 1727349973 828051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140833&oldid=140783 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+751) 10/* If you want, make this scarier. */ new section
> 1727350265 100309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140834&oldid=140815 5* 03None1 5* (+14) 10/* B */  Befunge-93 will count in the modified rules
> 1727350386 41137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140835&oldid=140834 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1727350672 830269 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140836&oldid=140835 5* 03None1 5* (+20) 10/* G */
> 1727350760 430027 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140837&oldid=140836 5* 03None1 5* (+26) 10/* T */
> 1727351379 382582 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140838&oldid=140832 5* 03None1 5* (+33) 10/* See also */
> 1727351452 259101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140839&oldid=140837 5* 03None1 5* (+12) 10/* P */
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> 1727351527 59262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140840&oldid=140839 5* 03None1 5* (+16) 10/* I */
> 1727351786 699871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Main Page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140841&oldid=139535 5* 03None1 5* (+384) 10/* Someone should change the featured language. */
< 1727351796 736221 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Celebrate Bureflux! Hail Erïs!
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> 1727352294 599002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140842&oldid=140831 5* 03None1 5* (-13) 10/* See also */
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> 1727352842 771422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140843&oldid=140826 5* 03None1 5* (+46) 10/* commands */
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> 1727355384 632776 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140844&oldid=138694 5* 03None1 5* (-93) 10
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> 1727357300 844229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140845 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1528) 10Created page with "Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again 1 is designed by PSTF, and it is crazier version of [[Translated ZhongWen/MihaiEso]].  1. Take this "program" 
   >     b    __  >  + > >     rwy'n"d->a> 1kg     ..."
> 1727357331 772051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140846&oldid=139136 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+43) 10
> 1727357465 843682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140847&oldid=140845 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+45) 10
> 1727358432 608279 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140848 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2237) 10Created page with "Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again is designed by MihaiEso, and it is crazier version of [[Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again1]]. ~~~~  1. Take this "program", which BTW looks bad. 
  []79777yy8166666663   []7977       MaroFajro MMA KIO ..."
> 1727358453 864798 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140849&oldid=140848 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-87) 10
> 1727358546 964007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140850&oldid=140722 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+83) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727359054 931708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140851 5* 03None1 5* (+3394) 10Created page with "'''+''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], it is an extension to [[]]. ==Stack== In addition to the original accumulator in , + has a stack, popping from the stack returns 0.  Both the stack and the accumulator store unbounded signed values. ==Commands== 
 Command Me
> 1727359096 279229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140852&oldid=133761 5* 03None1 5* (+273) 10/* I think this can add even more commands, not only , , ,  and . */
> 1727359150 499581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140853&oldid=135252 5* 03None1 5* (+38) 10/* See also */
> 1727359239 318969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140854&oldid=140838 5* 03None1 5* (+38) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1727359296 233246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140855&oldid=140724 5* 03None1 5* (+91) 10/* My Esolangs */
> 1727359493 579474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140856 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+986) 10Created page with "[[Translated ORK/None1 again6|This]] is not crazy enough, so let's be crazier with more crappy translations!  1. Take this crappy, original text: 
 ! The meaning of Japan and Japan humanity. ! Rubber, two, rig, fox cgi Limited only ! The meaning 
> 1727359641 409597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140857&oldid=140850 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+56) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727359843 41504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140858&oldid=140718 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+66) 10
> 1727360074 150923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Pkdck.png10]]": [[+]] by [[User:None1]]
> 1727360104 766530 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140860&oldid=140851 5* 03None1 5* (+62) 10
> 1727360722 504004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Subleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140861&oldid=134240 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+97) 10Added wayback links
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> 1727361279 769195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140862&oldid=140827 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+29) 10/* Computational class */
> 1727361375 735652 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140863 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1609) 10Created page with "[[Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again|]]  1. Drag that big sh*t out 
  8166666663   []       Spirit      ..."
> 1727361399 321314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140864&oldid=140849 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+45) 10
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> 1727361447 776881 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140865&oldid=140857 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+43) 10
> 1727362111 785932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140866&oldid=140864 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-4) 10
> 1727362396 252399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge Unshackled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140867&oldid=140862 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10
> 1727362408 995057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140868&oldid=140863 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+46) 10
> 1727363081 214154 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again1014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140869 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1032) 10Created page with "It's a big piece of sh1t that more shitty than [[Translated ORK/Mihai Again5]].  1. Drag out the ruins that have passed through the apocalypse 
 ! Issue # 1 is the last issue of this year's General Intentions. ! We couldn't save ourselves. 
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> 1727363392 333457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140871&oldid=140713 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+4) 10warring
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< 1727363578 739736 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e, tromp: You're right, I should specify what's going on. Not sure if I'll get to that today, but it's easy enough to do soon.
> 1727363895 130997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140872&oldid=140654 5* 03S7rayCat 5* (+210) 10
> 1727363896 733458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140873 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2045) 10Created page with "Made [[Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again1]] more rubbish  1. Drag this rubbish program 
   ^[yY]       _           ..."
> 1727363959 570584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again1014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140874&oldid=140869 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+39) 10
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> 1727364103 542887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140876&oldid=140873 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+0) 10
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< 1727364175 648602 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1727364582 405577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140877&oldid=140871 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-23) 10H4XXOR is Not a Number
< 1727364616 158727 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :S7rayCat: Morning.
< 1727364629 763509 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Morning
> 1727364640 470517 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140878 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1068) 10Created page with "It's a big piece of rubbish that is worse than [[Translated ORK/PSTF Again10]].  1. Drag this. 
 Place it on the pillow and pour in a column of mustard. I'm very angry if someone is here, but you're sharing too much. Place it on the pillow and p
< 1727364692 774733 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw, does anyone have an interpreter for cubed that's runable on a rpi4
< 1727364701 897485 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wanna test something
> 1727364716 229884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140879&oldid=140870 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+103) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
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> 1727366935 199445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140882&oldid=135599 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* See also */
> 1727366972 570789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140883&oldid=140882 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-17) 10
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< 1727367117 199588 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hallo!
< 1727367119 644389 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im back
> 1727367264 946320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emojifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140886&oldid=140529 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-16) 10
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< 1727368738 153909 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got a pretty weird idea for an esolang
< 1727368746 240730 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty sure its imposible
< 1727368748 201067 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk
< 1727368752 535724 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the thing is
< 1727368756 727715 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it accepts any code
< 1727368770 938810 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and tries to make or recognie it has syntax and run it as a program
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< 1727370799 125869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :How many esolangs emit video? I'm pondering getting a MiSTer FPGA, and it would be cool to implement something in it. BytePusher would probably be the first, I've done a wasm vm for it, and it's graphical
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< 1727371035 900831 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: https://esolangs.org/wiki/BMOW_1 has a custom graphics card
< 1727371053 100254 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with *two* different modes: bitmap and tile/character-based
< 1727371066 498193 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, *must* emit video? Cammy can be interpreted as producing animations, and I have a CPU emulator, but I haven't done a GPU version yet, let alone FPGA stuff.
< 1727371086 709895 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :making a graphics card is impressive on its own, but making one with two modes really shows that BMOW wanted to go the distance
< 1727371152 592755 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, BMOW-1 is rad. This has made my day. What an effort.
< 1727371155 45493 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like emitting video is less likely to break my brain than emitting text. Although I'd probably just... borrow from the PDP-1 core or something
< 1727371174 501452 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and https://www.bigmessowires.com/cpu-in-a-cpld/ has some kind of display, but I'm not sure of the details
< 1727371175 972509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know little about electronics
< 1727371207 219128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, a tutorial about Verilog mentioned pull-up resistors, and I... uh. I don't get it.
< 1727371218 918775 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :pull-up and pull-down resistors are sort of... defaults?
< 1727371222 976489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :iiuc?
< 1727371322 549588 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.linusakesson.net/scene/bitbanger/index.php emits video but I don't think it counts as a programming language in any sense
< 1727371377 616947 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are some 2D https://esolangs.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton that you may count
< 1727371413 658344 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Life_MiSTer GOL is implemented for MiSTer
< 1727371471 288930 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously with any capable language that can output bits you could write a program that outputs a file that you can easily interpret as graphics, raw or with headers at your choice
> 1727371548 894866 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140899&oldid=133024 5* 03TJC games 5* (+8) 10/* All functions */
< 1727371597 148169 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, https://esolangs.org/wiki/MIX_(Knuth)#MIXPC_extensions apparently has bitmap output but with an embarrassingly small resolution of 80×40 px resolution
< 1727371646 977155 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have output an ascii art maze from an esolang program at one point, does that count?
< 1727371704 381019 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then there's https://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages#Ken_Knowlton's_languages
< 1727371768 591879 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a couple environments like tixy or shadertoy that host small pure programs in languages like ES or GLSL, and I assume that that's *not* what you're looking for, not least because they aren't intended to compile to FPGA.
< 1727371812 774298 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At the same time, I can't ignore that there's a fairly generic way to compile pure languages to digital logic: http://conal.net/papers/compiling-to-categories/compiling-to-categories.pdf
< 1727371890 843010 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also had vague plans for a language that inputs and outputs pixel graphics, but I haven't developed any of it
< 1727372553 709403 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get an answer maybe perhaps idk. like feedback(and if its possible)
< 1727373040 326926 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW: It's an incoherent question. A language is merely a set of sentences; you're confusing the algorithm of an interpreter with the language which it recognizes.
< 1727373072 378011 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :??
< 1727373073 302311 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's an instance of Do What I Mean (DWIM), a famous failed computing paradigm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM
< 1727373095 624379 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no what i eamt was:
< 1727373116 442874 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :first try to find some syntax with a predifined function and mane up the lang
< 1727373126 792433 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then intepret the rest of the code after some delimiter
< 1727373145 106586 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :As in literate programming?
< 1727373309 999736 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW: What's the goal here? Your original phrasing was very generic.
< 1727373366 571918 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my goal is to bascially make everything runnable
< 1727373409 291058 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh. Yeah, that's not workable.
< 1727373430 46327 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but no rlly
< 1727373436 297862 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like my goal is
< 1727373442 621630 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought you were thinking of something more like https://gist.github.com/trauber/4955706 or https://github.com/vijithassar/lit
< 1727373447 482646 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to make a new lang every time kinda but also not
< 1727373542 358437 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you often want to shift the burden of formality to the computer.
< 1727373588 376901 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :talking about me or generally
< 1727373615 22255 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Talking about a pattern in your projects.
< 1727373634 254956 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Computers aren't magic. They're abstract symbol-manipulation robots.
< 1727373676 311834 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727373744 495987 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A pile of symbols doesn't have a meaning. We, the humans, assign meaning to the symbols.
< 1727373755 215506 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So what exactly are you hoping will happen when you give a pile of symbols to the computer?
< 1727373831 409466 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well. im trying in this way
< 1727373868 645318 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have some *function* that the first program is assumed to be
< 1727373888 932999 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no the computer *tries* to find patterns
< 1727373899 860690 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that compute that *function*
< 1727373912 49532 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the creates a lang
< 1727373913 588038 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some how
< 1727374010 769842 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*somehow
< 1727374067 765620 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unfortunately, sometimes a sentence is a member of two languages. So, let's assume that we've taught the computer our culture somehow (language modeling, whatever) and it's got an idea of what a proglang looks like.
< 1727374113 228080 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727374165 724330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`x = 7; y = 2; print(x/y)` is valid Python 2 and Python 3, printing different results. Both flavors of Python have been culturally popular. Which one would your program pick and why?
< 1727374168 173907 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :x? No such file or directory
< 1727374270 975084 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :prop python 2 since its simpler(i think) cuz then it easier to construct from the code. if we know the result or thing it computes
< 1727374311 204245 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, yeah, this is a hopeless desire and I think that you should modify it to something more tractable.
< 1727374343 245933 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like what
< 1727374353 486065 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk even know im rlly just beugn the idea
< 1727374433 278464 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*begun
< 1727374461 191299 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think iterating on this idea will help. I think that you're at a common stage for beginners and that you need to get past the hope that the computer can do any thinking for you.
< 1727374514 427155 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A program is a *specification* of what the computer ought to do. To the degree that the program is formalized, the computer's behavior is constrained. What you're asking for is to somehow instruct the computer without specification, as if it were a human laborer.
< 1727374560 518739 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And even then many people would argue that labor is required to encode abstract desires into a specification for what a human ought to do. There's no free lunch here.)
< 1727374639 72759 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i boring way to do it
< 1727374653 3153 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lets say we ave the function the first program needs to compile be idk
< 1727374657 558067 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this python code:
< 1727374674 408187 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`print("hello world")`
< 1727374675 469394 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :print("hello? No such file or directory
< 1727374685 23065 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then
< 1727374711 445835 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`python3 -cprint("hello world")
< 1727374711 553647 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just map earch char to one the of the commands ith the last one being the chars left
< 1727374712 598300 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello world
< 1727374718 811596 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so like
< 1727374806 266865 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :123456 could make it:
< 1727374806 767092 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :1 : print
< 1727374807 267108 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :2 : (
< 1727374807 766939 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :3: "
< 1727374808 266867 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :4 : hello worl
< 1727374808 767257 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :5 : d"
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< 1727374809 766721 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
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< 1727374909 281780 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: Yeah, that's not going to be implementable. What are the semantics? Is "this" a Unicode string, for example? How is the computer supposed to figure that out?
< 1727374941 379129 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just assumption
< 1727374944 504247 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like
< 1727374954 43466 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a functon that maps each char of one string
< 1727374959 281588 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to the ones of the other
< 1727374969 544686 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the chars of the other are the commands)
< 1727375010 322169 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You're assuming a particular ALGOL-ish paradigm which isn't universal. What should happen with this relatively famous program? {⊃1 ⍵ ∨.∧ 3 4 = +/ +⌿ ¯1 0 1 ∘.⊖ ¯1 0 1 ⌽¨ ⊂⍵}
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< 1727375097 364129 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk. idk anything about APL other than that it exists
< 1727375112 274627 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: Did you recognize that syntax offhand or did you search for it?
< 1727375138 104234 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know that my questions are mean, but I'm hoping that you're starting to see why we propose that you *implement* your designs.
< 1727375149 984496 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im to stupid tho
< 1727375151 368538 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :._.
< 1727375178 920611 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't believe that. But fine, let's assume that you're incapable of implementing proglangs. Why are you designing them?
< 1727375200 653405 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to keep myself ane
< 1727375206 35833 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*sane
< 1727375233 607597 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why do you think programmers design and implement proglangs? It's not a matter of sanity, although folks will often make jokes about that.
< 1727375251 548352 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well its the reason i do
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< 1727375271 607304 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :keeping busy isn't the same as keeping yourself sane
< 1727375338 377036 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you dont know me
< 1727375341 105186 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: I didn't ask you about your reasons. I'm asking you to empathize with the rest of the community of programmers; why do you think *they* do it?
< 1727375360 211507 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk. to make something intresting?
< 1727375412 398501 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nope. They do it in order to *collaborate*, to *shorten programs*, to *verify properties* and achieve *automatic safety*, to enable *abstractions*, and to make *legible* or *documented* parts of their systems.
< 1727375463 339506 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Otherwise we'd just use assembler. Real programmers don't mind, as long as they're paid by the hour and not merely by the line.
< 1727375475 458248 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727375560 189670 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PCWWWWW92: All that said, I don't want to discourage you from making conlangs. It's an important art form. There's nothing wrong with conlangs that a computer can interpret.
< 1727375574 710464 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727375575 407431 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But this idea of yours isn't even a conlang.
< 1727375598 255147 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its just a stupid idea.
< 1727375603 329697 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway
< 1727375612 726210 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well now ik
< 1727375637 198871 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Try removing "stupid" from your vocabulary; intelligence is probably not a real thing. Also "just" means "I believe". So you're saying "I believe it's an idea." I believe it's an idea too!
< 1727375679 5196 :PCWWWWW92!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
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< 1727375719 221162 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You think I'm being silly. I think I'm accurately summarizing the works of 20th-century philosopher Robert Pirsig. We aren't the same.
< 1727375773 858839 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BTW Pirsig wrote FORTRAN manuals as one of his dayjobs. He understood stuff like the software-hardware distinction and the difference between languages, programs, and computers.
< 1727375793 534806 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no i dont think you are
< 1727375801 172912 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also damn
< 1727375980 138234 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got anothr idea
< 1727376053 386393 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :underload but its only : , ^ , * and the P Q R L stuff
< 1727376177 808401 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and {} and '
< 1727376186 859367 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, go for it.
< 1727376210 756989 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should i upload it?
< 1727376273 945846 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fuck if I know.
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< 1727376386 423010 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hole shit'
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< 1727376838 290263 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: Real hardware is dirty. IIUC pull-up transistors can pull a line (typically connected to ground with a resistor to make it default to low) up to Vcc. You can have several such transistors on a single line. You even have tri-state outputs that can be either disconnected, pull down, or pull up. There are weak and strong versions of these too... strong versions can override weak versions. I...
< 1727376844 300226 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...also think that this is mostly for low-speed buses. Internally you're usually using CMOS (which in a way have both pull-up and pull-down transistors for every signal, and no resistors). And on high-speed buses you also want to pull signals up and down actively, so again you won't have many resistors driving signals.
< 1727376921 324810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need a tutorial on electronics, I think
< 1727376932 910032 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :And no kids songs that incorrectly claim "You can't violate Ohm's law"
< 1727376991 736853 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not a hardware guy. I did enjoy the topic though... used to borrow Hennessy-Patterson for a while, though the only thing that stuck was the idea of carry prediction to reduce the critical path length in multi-bit adders.
< 1727377026 669437 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: If you violate Ohm's law you get blue smoke.
< 1727377094 588949 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Ohm's law breaks down catastrophically when a resistor overheats. That includes low-resistance resistors like wires or metal contacts, which are the things that tend to burn up in a short circuit.)
< 1727377179 572275 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know much about electronics. I work in a job where a lot of my co-workers do electronics, but I do the software side, so at most I have to know not to touch wires that may be live.
< 1727377387 300981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"up to Vcc" - minus a threshold voltage whose name I'd have to look up that is required to pass through the transistor itself.
< 1727377595 597992 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The other thing I remember was that hardware people play tricks with the geometry of the gates of FETs to make logical ands and ors and even mixes thereof with a single source and drain.
< 1727377646 458793 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which was fun too. It won't come up in Verilog, it's way lower level than that.
< 1727377726 376624 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have, sadly, never actually touched Verilog.
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< 1727388101 109966 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo_: so I have a degree in electronics, if that's helpful for anything?
< 1727388164 952494 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, I would argue that theoretically Ohm's law is a definition and thus can't be violated by definition – but some of the numbers that you plug into it might have unexpected values, if you're doing something weird
< 1727388443 396440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. if you buy a 470 ohm resistor from a shop, it won't be guaranteed to have a resistance of 470 ohms in all possible circumstances – just the circumstances in which that sort of resistor is normally used
< 1727388450 917965 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: not really, because I know they also give those degrees to incompetent people 
< 1727388491 113258 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, this was a combined bachelor's+master's degree, I think if you're incompetent you only get the bachelor's portion
< 1727388521 146927 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well sure, those resistors usually have a voltage limit because they can just melt if you send lots of currents through it
< 1727388542 871063 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after two years the pass mark went up from 40% to 50%, including retroactively (if I'd had too many scores between 40% and 50% I would have had to change to bachelor's only at that point)
< 1727388580 579630 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, it was clear that some of the students in the group project were better than others
< 1727388591 881875 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: perhaps that is so now, but I saw this back before the Bologna system was introduced here so the degrees were 5 year program ones, and I think you're old enough for that
< 1727388625 674456 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably varies a lot from country to country and decade to decade
< 1727388647 723728 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and between universities and between the programs in those universities, yes
< 1727388687 921990 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was starting to move more into CS by the end of my degree, though
< 1727388714 299366 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean some of the universities keep renaming themeslves every five years just to try to confuse employers that the degrees that they give out are real
< 1727388728 950842 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like to joke that my Master's thesis was about writing a compiler for a particular computational model, and my PhD thesis was about figuring out why it worked
< 1727388748 332747 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1727388789 986560 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean that was still normal in my father's time: back then there was no separate CS education, so everyone who studied software programming got a degree saying electric engineering
< 1727388803 624840 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so my father has an electric engineering degree
< 1727388822 703081 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for my PhD I went to look up lots of old books on computer science, but they were filed under "philosophy" because computers hadn't been invented at the time
< 1727388842 304091 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and so the weird sorts of logic they were defining weren't obviously useful for anything
< 1727388842 454033 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice
< 1727388873 672346 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in particular I was working with affine logic a lot, which doesn't really make much sense if you try to make logical sense of the real world with it
< 1727388894 469836 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was a bit before Rust was created, so I feel like I got a head start in terms of understanding it
< 1727388915 811550 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, not sure about the actual creation date, but before it became widely known, at least
< 1727388947 64281 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.giantitp.com//comics/oots/oots1099.png “I'm an astronomer, not an adventurer. (There aren't a lot of dwarven organizations that offer funding for looking at the sky.)”
< 1727389030 604516 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: you asked for the webserver to break outside of work time, right?
< 1727389214 120772 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: anyway, my degree is explicitly a degree in electronics even though the university also offered computer science and software engineering degrees
< 1727389262 844771 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was partly because I wasn't sure what I wanted to be doing yet, and it is much cheaper to study CS on your own than it is to study electronics on your own – doing the degree meant that I could borrow expensive equipment from the university if I needed it
< 1727389297 668368 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, but they still count as close enough that people often work in related areas with those degrees
< 1727389323 48542 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and I was much more careful with it than most – I don't think I've destroyed anything more expensive than a cheap mass-produced capacitor or diode)
< 1727389353 663809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in the course of doing electronics on it, at least)
< 1727389365 110171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I defintely have set at least one diode on fire, it is easy to do by mistake
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< 1727395431 58693 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it maybe sometimes recovers on its own (maybe if the websocket thing times out or something).
< 1727395439 722459 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Was off playing a videogame this time.)
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< 1727400911 909864 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
> 1727401634 250898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LAMBDA Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140920&oldid=135909 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+2) 10
> 1727401644 516286 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LAMBDA Sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140921&oldid=140920 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (-2) 10
> 1727404573 456697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZipTied14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140922 5* 03Zackbuildit777 5* (+3444) 10Created page with "ZipTied is a low-level, address-based esolang created on September 25th, 2024 by ZackBuildit. It is a single threaded, 16 instruction language, intended to be able to compute any common and well-defined computational task in minimum single-thread time complexity,
> 1727404648 839040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZipTied14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140923&oldid=140922 5* 03Zackbuildit777 5* (+14) 10
> 1727406429 840396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140924&oldid=140856 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+16) 10
> 1727407101 789925 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GPNS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140925&oldid=140467 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10
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< 1727408497 466525 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1727409446 744735 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07?!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140926&oldid=120615 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+12) 10/* See also */
> 1727411024 304243 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03PhiPhiPHIpHi 5*  10New user account
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> 1727412539 659244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/Mihai Again614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140928&oldid=140878 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+16) 10
> 1727412839 194291 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Uppercase=Lowercase14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140929&oldid=140912 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+101) 10
< 1727415007 386664 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
> 1727415507 834188 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!!brainfeed++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140930 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+1766) 10Created page with "!!brainfeed++ is an extension of [[!!brainfeed]] designed by [[User:BoundedBeans]].  It has an extra three queues for data storage.  ==New commands== 
  {body}    - Loop body as long as the current cell is not zero.  "command" - Execute a
> 1727415524 197002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140931&oldid=140854 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+20) 10
> 1727415572 483738 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140932&oldid=137560 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+132) 10
> 1727415853 209686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140933 5* 03PhiPhiPHIpHi 5* (+2814) 10Created page with "== brainYay -by PhiphiPHIpHi. (Phoenix Irwin) ==   BrainYay is a version of Brainf*ck that adds many features, including a stack, and graphics.  All the original commands from brainf*ck are the same in brainYay except for the [] which are replaced with () respecti
> 1727416123 176216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140934&oldid=140933 5* 03PhiPhiPHIpHi 5* (+141) 10
> 1727416322 218667 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140935&oldid=140934 5* 03PhiPhiPHIpHi 5* (+71) 10
> 1727416613 321780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PixelatedStarfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140936&oldid=117977 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+189) 10
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< 1727418779 165281 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: is the videogame multiplayer (and so not easily pausable)?
> 1727418900 618884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140937&oldid=140935 5* 03PhiPhiPHIpHi 5* (+104) 10
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> 1727424396 863262 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140938&oldid=140937 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-15) 10did some stuff
> 1727424449 574769 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140939&oldid=140938 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10/* Commands */
> 1727424533 943124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140940&oldid=140939 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+22) 10/* Examples */
> 1727424670 102701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Agubelu 5*  10New user account
> 1727424721 778595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainyay14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140941&oldid=140940 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+9) 10/* Implementation */
> 1727424728 796046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140942&oldid=140927 5* 03Agubelu 5* (+62) 10
> 1727424814 972643 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140943&oldid=126984 5* 03Agubelu 5* (+609) 10/* Memory initialization */
> 1727425231 293381 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140944&oldid=140943 5* 03Agubelu 5* (-184) 10/* Memory initialization */
> 1727425344 720181 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140945&oldid=140944 5* 03Agubelu 5* (+55) 10/* Memory initialization */
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> 1727426614 787623 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Emelang 5*  10New user account
> 1727426892 357087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140946&oldid=140942 5* 03Emelang 5* (+219) 10um
> 1727426962 113814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tesolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140947&oldid=107698 5* 03Emelang 5* (+30) 10
> 1727426973 689770 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Emelang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140948 5* 03Emelang 5* (+94) 10Created page with "my esolangs: [[&-/]], [[Jellang]], [[While true (cat)|while true {cat}]], [[CBA]], [[HELOWOR]]"
> 1727427098 101255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07&-/14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140949&oldid=107350 5* 03Emelang 5* (+8) 10T to emelchenko
< 1727427602 828525 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess technically it's sort of an MMO (it's Elite Dangerous, or as I call it "the space game"), though I play it in the "Solo" mode. Still technically unpauseable, but easy enough to maneuver into a safe-to-quit spot. But the reason I brought it up wasn't that, I just meant I wasn't looking at either IRC or emails (for the alert), so I was blissfully unaware it had borked.
< 1727427622 369950 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I could send the alerts to my work pager thing.
< 1727427684 328834 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although some of them are more in the nature of reminders to do certain things, rather than "immediate action needed" kind of alerts.
< 1727428138 192278 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
> 1727430564 541514 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Genetic14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140950 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+3711) 10Seriously nobody did this?!
< 1727430670 319138 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas
> 1727430948 319235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140951&oldid=140895 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+14) 10Added Genetic; please contribute your own adjustment sets
> 1727431228 721945 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140952&oldid=140931 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+26) 10Added 2 languages
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> 1727431908 960129 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140953 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+1496) 10Created page with "== Notice == Since I can't edit User pages, I buffered the page [[User:Tommyaweosme/tommyaweosme english]]. == The page == tommyaweosme english is a page created by mihai popa and tommyaweosme. here is a table with all differences 
< 1727433563 151117 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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> 1727434221 47613 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Semi-serious language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140954&oldid=140840 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+155) 10A few more
> 1727436628 381777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140955 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2033) 10Created page with "[[]][[Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!|]]  1. Drag that lump of sht out 
   -  ^ [yyyy]        _ _  XD  ..."
> 1727436702 533809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140956&oldid=140876 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+45) 10
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> 1727436826 434337 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140957&oldid=140879 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+47) 10
> 1727437190 535657 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140958&oldid=140095 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1591) 10/* Some more questions */ new section
> 1727437700 355399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140959&oldid=140896 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+421) 10
> 1727437835 113528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!lyriclydemoteestablishcommunism!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140960&oldid=138570 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+65) 10
> 1727438196 870782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140961&oldid=140644 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+60) 10
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> 1727439492 507540 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140962&oldid=72883 5* 03Gggfr 5* (-173) 10/* Computational class */ a fsa can loop. idk what it is
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> 1727439678 271745 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ultimate bf instruction minimalization!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140963&oldid=99603 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+56) 10/* Turing-completness */
> 1727439731 543427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ultimate bf instruction minimalization!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140964&oldid=99604 5* 03Gggfr 5* (-57) 10
< 1727439755 365554 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mornin
< 1727439771 288984 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello!
< 1727439808 574181 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need to eat breakfast when I get to class
< 1727439816 459152 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727439838 331822 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am starving lol
< 1727439849 162489 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1727439859 894979 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :trying to figure out what the next hoodie I make for my mc skin should be
< 1727439874 531404 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk
< 1727439879 324631 :S7rayCat!~S7rayCat@74.94.35.113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then I just felt my stomach collapse in on itselfe
< 1727439890 815003 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
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> 1727441367 253482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!lyriclydemoteestablishcommunism!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140965&oldid=140960 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+82) 10
> 1727441574 927761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140966&oldid=140958 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+218) 10/* Some more questions */
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> 1727443223 610741 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140967 5* 03Xff 5* (+739) 10Created page with "'''PP'''' pronounced '''P to P prime''' is a esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] == syntax == PP' is [[Underload]] subset based on its notation. it uses the P, L, R, Q, {}, and ' notation stuff converted to under
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< 1727443347 836785 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey korvo remember the esolang i talked about yesterday(with the underload stuff). here it is: https://esolangs.org/wiki/P%E2%86%92P%27
> 1727444213 272632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140968&oldid=140300 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10/* Types */
> 1727444240 426654 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140969&oldid=140967 5* 03Xff 5* (-98) 10/* syntax */
> 1727444412 70857 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZipTied14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140970&oldid=140923 5* 03Zackbuildit777 5* (+109) 10
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> 1727444584 486539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140971&oldid=140969 5* 03Xff 5* (+83) 10/* syntax */
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> 1727444848 755948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140972&oldid=140730 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+13) 10/* esolangs */
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< 1727445131 478239 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, is "dewer" a funny word?
> 1727446509 248549 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Genetic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140973&oldid=140950 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+36) 10Add the "See also" section
> 1727446804 510326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Keywords14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140974 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2816) 10Created page with "== Keyword List == {| class="wikitable" |+ Keyword List |- ! CMD !! Meaning |- | False || Logical 0. |- | None || A nil constant. |- | True || Logical 1. P.S.: True+True=2 |- | if || If-statement. |- | elif || Equal el(se )if. |- | else || If-else fina
> 1727446833 940398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140975&oldid=140968 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+24) 10
< 1727447460 237442 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it just me or is this chemical formula for nitrogen gas a bit worrying because one of the nitrogen atoms is represented by an N in a serif font, the other by an N in an sans serif font? https://youtu.be/l0u8Vtf2GoQ?t=247
< 1727447491 236493 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's like there's some assymetry between the two atoms
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< 1727447547 377089 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/assymetry/asymmetry/
> 1727447595 554414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140976&oldid=140813 5* 03None1 5* (+315) 10/* Semi-serious language list */
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> 1727447721 42089 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140977&oldid=123292 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (-2999) 10It's my language and I can change it if I want to
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> 1727447850 65647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140978&oldid=106699 5* 03Xff 5* (-2) 10/* Hello World! Script */ make pre
< 1727447943 244406 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi, I just completely changed https://esolangs.org/wiki/Sloopy to suit my purposes.
< 1727447954 661543 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think my argument that it is TC is really weak.
< 1727447962 800722 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, I'm sure it is, but the argument is very handwavy
> 1727447978 809623 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140979&oldid=140574 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+824) 10/* Make it even  scarier !!!! */ new section
< 1727448013 308822 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, there is a very good chance this language already exists
< 1727448030 350463 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I am not really in the mood to trawl through all the brainfuck variants and identify it.
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> 1727448103 822377 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:C++++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140981&oldid=125140 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+131) 10
< 1727448183 534169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey, what happens if you nest (/) ?
< 1727448323 568630 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: it's no different from nesting if-else blocks in a conventional language.
< 1727448463 9366 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey: can you clarify if this has a single tape head that can move around in the tape and the only thing that moves the head is < and > instructions, just as in Brainfuck?
> 1727448467 900254 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140982&oldid=140132 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+339) 10Pseudo-code added
< 1727448472 843884 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could maybe weaken it a bit and say that the first [ doesn't have to appear as the very first symbol.  But still, there can only be 1 [ symbol.
< 1727448496 51160 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: If you like, I'll add that to the description
< 1727448529 288536 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey: it's more like that I don't see in the description where it says that the rules default to brainfuck except for a few changes, so it sounds incomplete in other ways too
< 1727448551 662284 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does say it's "brainfuck-like" but that's vague
< 1727448578 443240 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get feedback on dis?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/P%E2%86%92P%27'
> 1727448587 227856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140983&oldid=140977 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10/* Computational class */
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< 1727448605 71866 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey: now as for the more important question, what do the cells store? are they unbounded integers, integers modul 256, something else?
< 1727448726 940736 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do think this is Turing-complete though
> 1727448734 395025 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140984&oldid=140983 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+348) 10More clarity on what's like brainfuck here
< 1727448820 519670 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: the article does already say "integers stored on the tape are unbounded in both the positive and negative extents", I don't know how to make that clearer
< 1727449019 677702 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so if you have a cell that takes one of a few specific values then you can make a switch-case statement on that value like (-(-(-(...-(an/...)/a3)/a2)/a1)/a0 , destroying the value as a side effect. and using this you can emulate a Turing-machine by storing the symbols in odd positions and the state under the cursor in an even position. you just
< 1727449020 173138 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :need a big switch case statement on the states with switch-case statements on the symbol in each arm. in each case, write the new symbol, move the head to where the simulated head has to move, and write the new state of the simulated Turing-machines. I don't often use reductions to one-tape Turing machines because they don't come up naturally, but
< 1727449020 673323 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this case it seems the most direct way.
< 1727449038 653760 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is even slightly easier than if you had to mess with brainfuck brackets
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> 1727449120 103545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 without a Quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=140985 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2447) 10Created page with "Klik hi tu bak tu  mein pei: [[]]  '' without a Quine'' is designed by PSTF which inspired from [[]] which is inspired from [[Nope.]]  == Commands == There are Th ..."
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> 1727449245 438242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140986&oldid=140984 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+561) 10Mention also a pretty simple variation that I can imagine.
> 1727449299 238958 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140987&oldid=140000 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+77) 10
> 1727449608 91534 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140988&oldid=140986 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+316) 10Expand on what's likely in the variation
> 1727449902 772218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Page crapper from explain xkcd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140989&oldid=138254 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+166) 10/*  */ new section
< 1727450258 792878 :cpressey!~weechat@176.254.119.170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Yes. I facepalm now because I now realize this is not what I need either.  Oh well. I do think I will eventually get there.
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> 1727450505 317844 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140992&oldid=108280 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-243) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/108280|108280]] by [[Special:Contributions/ChuckEsoteric08|ChuckEsoteric08]] ([[User talk:ChuckEsoteric08|talk]])
> 1727450540 901278 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140993&oldid=122652 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+109) 10Minor update on the state of the TC proof.
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> 1727451785 624909 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NABC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140995&oldid=127863 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+12) 10
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> 1727452614 180777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140996&oldid=140993 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+327) 10Attempt to clarify this while I attempt to wrap my head around it again
> 1727452654 746773 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burro14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140997&oldid=140996 5* 03Chris Pressey 5* (+1) 10
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> 1727453269 133522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ZipTied14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140998&oldid=140970 5* 03Zackbuildit777 5* (+8) 10
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> 1727453813 22508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03YetAnotherAccount 5*  10New user account
> 1727454119 236553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=140999&oldid=140946 5* 03YetAnotherAccount 5* (+180) 10introduction
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> 1727455901 778705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Number-encoded Bitwise Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141009&oldid=109420 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-36) 10/* How it works */
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< 1727479999 410191 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think I've seen cpressey's exact version of BF that's used in Sloopy before
< 1727480023 279694 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've seen a "1 loop plus if statements", but it used bit cells and didn't have else branches (also, it was offwiki)
< 1727480045 201431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/63284
< 1727480059 214693 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(called "Picofuck" there, but the Picofuck on the wiki is a different language)
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< 1727480933 196742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm you can't nest if-then-else in Sloopy, I wonder whether that's intentional
< 1727481011 639280 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(because `((/)/)` would have two `/` between the outer `()`)
> 1727481317 297703 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sloopy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141092 5* 03Int-e 5* (+274) 10Q about nesting
> 1727481566 689547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sloopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141093&oldid=140988 5* 03Ais523 5* (+922) 10a simple, more rigorous TCness proof using [[The Waterfall Model]] (which should probably be the first choice for TCness-proving of anything that can store sufficiently many unbounded integers)
< 1727481586 54157 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the nesting isn't needed, at least :-D
< 1727481630 554616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1727481652 171666 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way I am disappointed by just how good The Waterfall Model is at TCness-proving non-reversible counter machines, or anything that can be made to act as one; it has reduced the effort needed to produce that sort of proof down to typically a couple of minutes
< 1727481660 945811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still think it's accidental because otherwise that restriction could be expressed in a much clearer fashion.
< 1727481702 810281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's not certain :)
< 1727481733 483937 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the control flow is so absurdly simple, each counter is tested in only once place in the program and the order doesn't matter, you could even do it simultaneously
< 1727481789 330291 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd implement a Minsky machine, which can also be done directly.
< 1727481794 876940 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Flooding Waterfall Model was a major challenge but at least that one isn't a pure counter machine, the counters act differently depending on their histories (and the hard part was finding a way to make them act predictably, once I'd done that the regular Waterfall Model could easily serve as a TCness proof for the resulting language)
< 1727481804 601061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: how do you implement the instruction pointer?
< 1727481814 170379 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one cell per state
< 1727481824 406762 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yes, that works
< 1727481825 369939 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's either 0 or 1
< 1727481836 136899 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a one-hot instruction pointer, I should remember that trick more often
< 1727481859 665466 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which incidentally shows that you don't need the else branches either
< 1727481866 745719 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm
< 1727481891 452868 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the TWM proof doesn't need the else branches either (or alternatively, doesn't need the if branches), because all the changes made inside an if statement are reversible
< 1727481921 403447 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that's obviously inherent in any Sloopy program that doesn't nest ifs, and less obviously inherent even in Sloopy programs that do
< 1727481936 5347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sorry, I'm sure this works out but I did get a bit ahead of myself because I didn't actually consider the test of the counter :) (yeah it'll work).
< 1727481951 682442 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or counters
< 1727481974 962971 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :worst case you just go The Amnesiac From Minsk, which basically captures the restriction of "each counter can only be tested in one place in the program"
< 1727482011 902516 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I used to use TAFM for TCness proofs a lot, but TWM is simpler and also has the properties that make TAFM good for proofs, whilst having a few of its own
< 1727482062 85180 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I used TAFM to originally "bootstrap" the TCness proof for TWM, because I had to use something that was proved TC without using TWM along the way)
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< 1727482139 24740 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually I feel like a lot of my TCness research has been looking at the tradeoffs between how complex the data storage is and how complex the control flow is
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< 1727482178 224964 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as you suggested with your one-hot instruction pointer, usually it's possible to simplify the control flow by storing more data
< 1727482254 333100 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah I guess things get interesting if you limit the number of cells as we do with Minsky machines
< 1727482491 841162 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, how many counters do you need for TC-ness in TWM?
< 1727482513 135575 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Waterfall Model programs golfed down to use a minimal number of counters can be beautiful, most of the counters end up being used as both value storage and control flow at different times in the program execution
< 1727482535 975254 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :minimum known is 6 readable counters + 1 halt counter
< 1727482559 675952 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(obviously the halt counter only matters if you want strong Turing-completeness, i.e. halting when and only when the emulated program halts)
< 1727482617 55558 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is an explicit compiler from https://esolangs.org/wiki/Spiral_Rise to that number of counters, although it's never actually been tested
< 1727482730 363404 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so there's a chance that reducing from a 2-counter Minsky machine is actually better.
< 1727482817 425784 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in terms of tape cells used? that wouldn't surprise me because Sloopy's control flow is pretty powerful, except for not having loops beyond the outer loop
< 1727482828 89996 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1727482858 293613 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :3 cells should easily suffice if you allow nested ifs.
< 1727482873 323068 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the basic problem there is that 2-counter Minsky machines tend to naturally use a lot of small loops to do multiplications and divisions
< 1727482890 546169 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you would probably want one cell as a numerical instruction pointer
< 1727482890 860053 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe 4 is enough if you don't have nesting.
< 1727482987 984104 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, 3 is easy even without nesting: have a numerical instruction pointer where each instruction simply specifies which of the counters to increment or decrement and what the next instruction is, but space out the numbers used (e.g. 0, 10, 20, 30, 40) – then do a test on counter 1 that adds 1 to the instruction if it's nonzero, a test on counter 2 that adds 2 to to the instruction if it's nonzero, and unconditionally add 1
< 1727483043 504102 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the unconditional add of 1 means that the value left in the instruction pointer after running an instruction won't collide with any valid instruction values
< 1727483073 228254 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is pretty similar to how Esimpl works, although different enough to feel like a different language
< 1727483092 6911 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yeah that works
< 1727483127 183329 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe we can even do that without else branches?
< 1727483140 922729 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727483152 827538 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose so because most things are easily reversible
< 1727483153 306257 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think the else branches in Sloopy actually do anything, especially without nesting
< 1727483182 603348 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you just do the else branch unconditionally afterwards, and cancel it out at the end of the if branch
< 1727483225 416059 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually maybe they do do something if you have nesting, but they definitely don't if you don't
< 1727483295 569683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the else branch is *convenient* because it only executes for one specific value of a cell (namely 0)
< 1727483308 863267 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, it makes programs more readable
< 1727483324 943119 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way Sloopy feels like it would be more elegant with only the else branches, no ifs
< 1727483360 846487 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Perl calls that an "unless" statement, although it allows "unless … else" presumably to avoid adding a special case into the parser)
< 1727483416 183718 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION thinks about an esoteric control flow construct that has only the "then" and "else" cases, and works out the value of the test based on which of them runs successfully

< 1727483420 764198 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yeah, (/foo) translates to (-foo/)foo where -foo reverses foo
< 1727483436 956802 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and (bar/foo) to (bar-foo)/foo
< 1727483456 43876 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :misplaced / but yeah
< 1727483456 215850 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err (bar-foo/)foo
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< 1727483575 418877 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So that leaves the question of doing this with 2 cells. Which enables consistent Collatz?
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< 1727483648 184120 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure you can even do consistent Collatz, how do you remember which of the cells is being multiplied onto the other? I guess you could use a wrapping tape that's 2 cells long
< 1727483657 199671 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh I can't copy the value back, right.
< 1727483657 285791 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and use the position of the tape pointer
< 1727483681 3578 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although even then, the modulus would probably have to be a square number
< 1727483693 715188 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, not the modulus, the ratio
< 1727483829 304706 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see why.
< 1727483842 44901 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But yeah I didn't want a wrapping tape, so scratch that thought.
< 1727483848 196196 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, no, it doesn't because you can test on both sides of the copy
< 1727483916 143773 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the tape has only two writable cells, but a lot more that are stuck at 0, it's still possible to use the tape pointer position to store state, but that feels like cheating in a way
< 1727484007 465151 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :3 is pretty good
< 1727484086 123692 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have realised that consistent Collatz is capable of embedding a sort of state machine (you store the state machine in the low bits and the consistent-Collatz behaviour happens in the high bits)
< 1727484134 103150 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which somewhat increases the chance that it's TC
< 1727484164 164844 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, you have gcd(m,r) states of that sort
< 1727484209 907608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(using variable names from https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/Consistent_Collatz )
< 1727484222 536163 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what you basically end up with is a finite state machine + a PRNG with infinite amounts of state, but the finite state machine can mix state into the PRNG
< 1727484232 843831 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(just on the off chance that there's another source)
< 1727484247 874015 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the source I wrote is going to be the one I'm most familiar with :-)
< 1727484303 316596 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would be so funny if somebody managed to find a TC fragment of the original Collatz sequence.
< 1727484341 903216 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the sense that you could somehow encode a program into it such that the sequence reached its usual loop only if the program halted?
< 1727484352 596508 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Funny and amazing.
< 1727484374 615846 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because that PRNG component feels pretty wild.
< 1727484468 969699 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: or maybe any loop whatsoever
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< 1727484755 485166 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I am sometimes entertaining the idea that Collatz' conjecture could be false. But the only way I see to establish that would be to find a second loop and I'm sure smarter people have tried that with significant computing power already.)
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< 1727484786 298431 :nitrix!~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's usually what they do yeah, they try to prove it false rather than prove it true.
< 1727485048 243815 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there has been quite a lot of research into the fractional portions of (1½)**n, but the results are pretty miniml
< 1727485050 395721 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* minimal
< 1727485111 963567 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and this is very related to the Hydra sequence (which is basically the same, but you truncate the fractional portion before every multiplication by 1½)
< 1727486498 264376 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"hmm you can't nest if-then-else in Sloopy" => wait, really? because then my reduction doesn't work
< 1727486529 189284 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think you were intended to be able to nest them but int-e thinks the spec is misworded
< 1727486563 667547 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's still Turing-Complete anyway so it's not a big deal
< 1727486606 350916 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it's not much harder to prove either
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< 1727486647 54989 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or... hmmm
< 1727486654 727414 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure, maybe it is harder to prove
< 1727486716 473843 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, it's still fine, you can use pluses to add the next state to the tape symbol of the next position of the head, and code the states and symbols so that their sums are unique
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< 1727486958 518733 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we've already come up with a few proofs, but mostly by treating it as a counter machine
< 1727486962 233634 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and for testing the value, you use (-/a0 +^n)(-/a1 +^(n-1))(-/a2 +^(n-2)) ... (-/a(n-1) +)(-/an) where ak is the action for when the value of the cell was k, and each branch has enough pluses that the next if branches don't trigger but the minuses leave the counter zero at the end
< 1727487432 469008 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"The Waterfall Model … has reduced the effort needed to produce [… Turing-completeness] proof" => we'll still have to try to make the proof for Imprecision TC first. does TWM help with that?
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< 1727489597 311328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: not obviously, Imprecision is stuck in the "figure out how to read arbitrary amounts of data" stage
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> 1727534803 701164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ALWCIDFEC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141260&oldid=141259 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* A+B Problem */
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> 1727535000 969393 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141263&oldid=141256 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+15) 10/* 15 */
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> 1727535237 256935 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Calligulan Assembly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141267&oldid=86413 5* 03Pro465 5* (+115) 10/* A question */ answer
> 1727535385 287872 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:The dark reader at home.jpg10]]"
> 1727535427 329465 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141269&oldid=141235 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+149) 10
> 1727535623 408619 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141270&oldid=141195 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+47) 10
> 1727535656 745507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141271&oldid=141270 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+27) 10/* Hello, world! */
< 1727535695 331956 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:643a:2d9a:9024:909c JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic
> 1727535749 594375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141272&oldid=141196 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+154) 10
> 1727535970 557954 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python But WORST14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141273&oldid=135489 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+22) 10
> 1727536134 35360 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ALWCIDFEC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141274&oldid=141266 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+60) 10/* A+B Problem */
> 1727536279 407019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141275&oldid=141072 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+10) 10
> 1727536300 393233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ALWCIDFEC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141276&oldid=141274 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+10) 10/* Instructions */
> 1727536371 26240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141277&oldid=141218 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-6) 10/* Interpriter */
> 1727536452 598709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bite bytes14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141278 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+885) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}bite bytes is a esolang that can interpret n byte programs easily. == commands ==  p? - prints ? (or variable if b)  q?! - prints ? (or variable if b) shifted by ! ascii characters  a? - saves to variable  i - saves input to variable  b - reference v
> 1727536570 738653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141279&oldid=140833 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+78) 10
> 1727536580 751434 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141280&oldid=141279 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+5) 10/* grade wikipedia (translated to unname4798: -100000) */
> 1727536780 388238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141281&oldid=141081 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+109) 10all of these people ''thanked'' ais523. with NO redeeming qualities found yet
> 1727536905 445544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141282&oldid=141281 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+27) 10WHAT KIND OF HORRID MALICE IS MAKING A PAGE THAT JUST LEADS TO WIKIPEDIA?!??!?!?!!?
< 1727536915 359583 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:643a:2d9a:9024:909c PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Core War Tournament Weekend will be held at the Retro Computer Festival in Cambridge, UK, on 9-10 November. https://corewar.co.uk/tournamentweekend2024.htm
> 1727537011 481105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141283&oldid=141282 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+29) 10ANOTHER ANTI-RESTORATION EVILIST
> 1727537018 738268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141284&oldid=141277 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+139) 10/* Interpriter */
> 1727537067 393849 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141285&oldid=141284 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+43) 10/* Commands */
> 1727537266 409219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141286&oldid=141283 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+34) 10he deleted wikipedian propoganda off of esowiki, which is good, but then asked for the creator to positively contribute to wikipedia?!?!?!?!?! this is complete neutral behavior, these acts cancel out eachother.
> 1727537286 770585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141287&oldid=141286 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+19) 10
> 1727537528 640440 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(ch34t) c0d314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141288 5* 03Xff 5* (+1139) 10Created page with "'''(ch34t) c0d3''' is an esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]]. its 2d and has only 4 commands. kinda? well see concept. the commands are:  >v  ^< which are code pointer arrows which changes its direction. its starts going left in lower right corner. memory is a stack 
> 1727537552 624941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141289 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+232) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}tenglish is [[user:tommyaweosme|tommyaweosme]] english as a kinda programming language. == commands == see a library of commands at [[tenglish/commands]] == examples == see a library of examples at [[tenglish/examples]]"
> 1727537570 29016 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/examples14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141290 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+35) 10Created page with "''this page is not being made yet''"
> 1727537588 359773 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/commands14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141291 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+43) 10Created page with "''this is placeholder for soon-to-be-page''"
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> 1727537908 819753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/commands14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141293&oldid=141291 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+504) 10
> 1727537948 720843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/operations14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141294 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+76) 10Created page with " add subtract multiply divide concat factorial modulo round round to nearest"
> 1727537982 907265 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141295&oldid=141287 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+29) 10very good content yay
> 1727538238 539994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/commands14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141296&oldid=141293 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+14) 10
> 1727538248 73382 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/operations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141297&oldid=141294 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+14) 10
> 1727538481 320053 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141298&oldid=140972 5* 03Xff 5* (+19) 10/* esolangs */
> 1727539254 544192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointstack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141299&oldid=137466 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+1060) 10Added Turing-completenees proof
> 1727539310 946610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141300&oldid=140091 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+16) 10/* Turing-completness Proofs */  added Pointstack
< 1727539553 567597 :PCWWWWW!~PCWWWWW@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :feedback plz: https://esolangs.org/wiki/P%E2%86%92P%27
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> 1727542712 32140 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/esolangs in ten words or less14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141301 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+734) 10Created page with " [[slashalash|///]] - if regex were turing complete:  [[!English]], [[^English]], [[tenglish]], [[english]], etc. - cheating  [[asciidots]] - befunge+wireworld  [[brainfuck]] - this language is fun ++++[>no wait its not-<]>.  
> 1727543109 71729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Llec14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141302&oldid=118934 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+802) 10/* Examples */
> 1727543544 784244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python is Magic/Constants14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141303&oldid=141241 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10Category
> 1727544254 382669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141304&oldid=141289 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+69) 10Categories
> 1727544273 230213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/operations14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141305&oldid=141297 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10Back
> 1727544302 700378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/operations14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141306&oldid=141305 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+0) 10Lowercase
> 1727544310 869097 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/examples14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141307&oldid=141290 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10Back
> 1727544324 899984 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenglish/examples14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141308&oldid=141307 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+14) 10Lowercase
> 1727544499 490192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(ch34t) c0d314]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141309&oldid=141292 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+174) 10Categories
> 1727544810 677028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bite bytes14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141310&oldid=141278 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+178) 10Links, categories
> 1727544946 176268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141311&oldid=141280 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+220) 10/* I have the same born year with you. */
> 1727544971 462316 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A Language Programmed While Listening to Godspeed You! Black Emperor14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141312&oldid=141243 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10/* Commands */ n
< 1727545341 519903 :molson!~molson@2001-48F8-704A-446-34C4-69D3-D27C-8D17-dynamic.midco.net JOIN #esolangs molson :realname
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> 1727545920 484342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141313&oldid=141103 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+29) 10create the worst grade possible, just like how [[User:tommyaweosme]] did
< 1727547398 318220 :wwwwwwwwwwwwwloo!~wwwwwwwww@2a09:bac3:4da1:341::53:88 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wwwwwwwwwwwwwlooong
< 1727547403 875252 :wwwwwwwwwwwwwloo!~wwwwwwwww@2a09:bac3:4da1:341::53:88 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hallo again
< 1727547537 913908 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname
< 1727547754 455000 :Roy_Mustang!A_D@libera/staff/dragon NICK :A_Dragon
> 1727547828 772918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141314&oldid=140537 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+213) 10/* Infinite looping counter */ Fix
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> 1727548500 134162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainpocalypse II14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141315&oldid=134110 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+101) 10/* External resources */
< 1727548837 318764 :wwwwwwwwwwwwwloo!~wwwwwwwww@2a09:bac3:4da1:341::53:63 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wwwwwwwwwwwwwlooong
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> 1727555818 612586 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141319&oldid=141318 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+156) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727555854 575348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141320&oldid=141319 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727555940 218156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141321&oldid=141320 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727555969 164630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141322&oldid=141321 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+5) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1727556042 567310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141323&oldid=141322 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10You can put variables outside the code block
> 1727556074 169895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141324&oldid=141323 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+6) 10/* Hello, world! */
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> 1727556253 45771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141327&oldid=141326 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+81) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1727556279 332587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141328&oldid=141327 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* Truth-machine */
> 1727556350 144679 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141329&oldid=138281 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+82) 10/* !@#$%^&*()_+ */
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> 1727556753 565160 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072KWLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141330&oldid=141314 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+249) 10/* Finite looping counter */ Fix
> 1727557018 57277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141331&oldid=141328 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+277) 10/* Examples */
> 1727557037 335307 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141332&oldid=141331 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+11) 10/* A+B Problem */
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> 1727558163 705789 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141335&oldid=141332 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* A+B Problem */
> 1727558184 299929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A+B Problem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141336&oldid=141333 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* ! */
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< 1727561896 411976 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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> 1727566668 430068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/interwiki14]]4 iw_add10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10Ais523 added prefix "bbchallenge" (https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/$1) (trans: 0; local: 0) to the interwiki table: as a wiki concerned primarily with Turing machines, it covers similar topics to this one and interwiki links between the two are likely
< 1727568127 782589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ooh, neat way to learn about other neat wikis
> 1727568477 391134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Feed the Chaos14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141339 5* 03Ais523 5* (+8098) 10new language!
< 1727568526 498855 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: I think the ability to change the interwiki table is very new, as in the last month or so
< 1727568639 522763 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :meanwhile, for the first time in ages I have written a language with BF-style comments (i.e. every noncommand is a comment), but the command list is different from BF and it is hard to get out of the habit of avoiding BF commands specifically when writing that sort of comment
< 1727568672 642723 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I get full stop! and parentheses! but not slashes, which I normally use as a universal punctuation mark when commenting BF
< 1727568690 819045 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, slashes and semicolons, semicolons replace commands and slashes replace parentheses
< 1727568704 536452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are "program counter" and "control counter" synonyms?
< 1727568722 380252 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I just used the wrong word
> 1727568733 128416 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Feed the Chaos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141340&oldid=141339 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Specification */ fix use of the wrong word
< 1727568747 871936 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was right everywhere else, I'm not sure how I did that
> 1727568812 685445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141341&oldid=141160 5* 03Ais523 5* (+21) 10/* F */ +[[Feed the Chaos]]
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< 1727568968 540420 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, you can also ensure to have a spare cell that you can zero and then put the comment into brackets whose body doesn't run
< 1727568996 66779 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that also works in underload and consumer society
< 1727569014 513297 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and dc
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> 1727569719 214315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Feed the Chaos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141343&oldid=141340 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Computational class */ move a misplaced parenthetical to the right place
< 1727569763 972138 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: not in Feed the Chaos, it has no control flow, not even if statements
< 1727569806 530004 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I find languages with no explicit control flow interesting because most of the TCness problems for languages with general control flow have been solved already
< 1727569845 458886 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, most of the time when I was commenting BF, it was actually BF Joust, where you can't rely on a cell still being 0 after you've zeroed it and where {} don't work as parentheses because they mean something else
< 1727570089 141958 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :A lot of concurrency memory models have a problem with "out-of-thin-air values", where it's not strictly forbidden for memory to be set to a value that didn't come from any thread.
< 1727570109 547198 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there any sorts of wacky languages where this kind of behavior could actually happen?
< 1727570234 670082 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it can happen on hardware quite easily with simultaneous nonatomic writes, e.g. thread A writes half the value, thread B writes the whole value, then thread A wries the other half
< 1727570241 278728 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now the value is half from A and half from B
< 1727570291 561863 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, but I mean with atomic writes.
< 1727570296 708201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way it's harder to see it happening in an esoteric system than a practical one, esoteric concurrency usually has a lot more things as atomic than real-world hardware
< 1727570335 139087 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the lowest atomicity level most languages have is relaxed atomicity, and in that the value stored in the variable must necessarily come from some thread
< 1727570351 258640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there models with less atomicity than that (but still nonzero amounts)?
< 1727570362 501224 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://hboehm.info/c++mm/thin_air.html is one discussion of this.
< 1727570383 901342 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :My understanding is that this is surprisingly tricky to rule out in many memory models.
< 1727570420 802536 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I see, it just needs a basic causality paradox, which the definitions often don't disallow
< 1727570432 421352 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right.
< 1727570457 796124 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess there are more plausibly wacky languages that have some sort of time travel semantics that could allow for this, but don't have it come up specifically with concurrency.
< 1727570465 369527 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and this is "allowed" with relaxed atomics as they don't require the loads to be ordered with respect to other threads
> 1727570599 294918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Feed the Chaos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141344&oldid=141343 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+9) 10/* Interpreter */ Nowiki
< 1727570819 86653 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there esoteric languages with other wackadoodle memory ordering things?
< 1727570954 322428 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wouldn't surprise me if there aren't, most esolangs aren't concurrent, and most of the ones that aren't are very atomic
< 1727571005 908999 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the concurrent programming category on Esolang has 79 languages in it
< 1727571120 609099 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, many concurrent esolangs use a form of concurrency other than shared-memory concurrency
< 1727571162 582462 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, you can still maybe have interesting ordering issues in other worlds.
< 1727571167 966291 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I wonder what they'd be like.
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< 1727575483 329357 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh sure, in Bgjoust that doesn't work
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> 1727576366 961547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DIVSPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141346&oldid=129428 5* 03Corbin 5* (+94) 10/* Implementations */ I've actually written an RPython version of this as well! I won't say whether mine is faster than Dustin's.
> 1727576826 461593 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141347&oldid=141345 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (-39) 10
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< 1727580567 596458 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Bfjoust has abbreviations though, so you can write (...anything...)*0 for a comment
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< 1727581057 154164 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that isn't very golfy though
< 1727581095 674190 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which matters for some of my programs ­– there was one where I had to go and delete a substantial portion of the code that wasn't used against any machine currently on the hill in order to fit it into the size limit
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< 1727581618 547149 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see
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> 1727582908 832817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141349&oldid=141149 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+33) 10/* See also */
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< 1727586678 24855 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 if you can answer here, is this esolang properly defined(underload related): https://esolangs.org/wiki/P→P%27
< 1727586742 375440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: I find the definition hard to understand, at least
< 1727586756 618643 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what part specifically
> 1727586784 721142 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141358&oldid=141101 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+5) 10
< 1727586788 242018 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally I try to make esolang pages self-contained, if I can, i.e. even if something is documented elsewhere I try to make it so that it's possible to understand the esolang just from its own page
< 1727586823 788733 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea but it would be veyry hard because how the notation is explained
< 1727586828 813631 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the superscript L and R aren't actually part of Underload at all, for example, they're part of a Turing-completeness proof for it
< 1727586879 962022 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I don't have the proof memorised
< 1727586886 201865 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. but as of what i know it looks like it creates programs for underload(am i wrong there?) so here thats what we use it for
< 1727586943 137133 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, L and R are functions that take a subset of Underload code as argument, and generate Underload code
< 1727586948 737095 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they aren't defined on all possible code
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< 1727586956 838026 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so P is a program?
< 1727586988 422330 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but them how have some of the, generated underload code without an input program
< 1727587048 643963 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :RL is a separate operation from L and R
< 1727587073 502389 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes but you can still write it with L and R so you just do that
< 1727587272 863882 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, a bigger problem is that L and R aren't actually defined for programs that contain any characters other than ():^ and aren't defined for all of those either
< 1727587337 905312 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut. then how…wut
< 1727587369 363187 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, that's not quite right, they're defined for S as well
< 1727587403 226359 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1727587411 685535 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait why i that funny to me
< 1727587416 973789 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, P is not a command at all – it is a placeholder used to define L and R
< 1727587433 423802 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im solving it rn
< 1727587480 462452 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :L and R are (partial) functions, and P is the name that was given to their argument when defining them
< 1727587501 545721 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. : is defined as mapping (x) to (x) (x), that doesn't mean that x is an Underload character
< 1727587519 766884 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's just a placeholder used to explain how the command works
> 1727587558 71228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141359&oldid=141358 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+219) 10/* syntax */
< 1727587582 244204 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes makes sense
< 1727587689 865588 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the more interesting way to think about this is to imagine what would happen if you added an Underload combinator that took one argument and tried to return its L and R (you have to have one combinator that returns both because there is more than one possible choice of return value, but the choice has to match between the L and the R)
< 1727587719 985162 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i could do or add that
< 1727587726 43801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unfortunately I suspect that if you try to generalise L and R to all of Underload, you end up with an uncomputable combinator (basically because it doesn't work on nonhalting programs but you can't figure out which ones are halting)
< 1727587752 450942 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727587754 23431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh! but you could define it to go into an infinite loop if run on a nonhalting program, and solve the problem that way
< 1727587763 283846 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not like it has a sensible return value anyway
< 1727587775 16799 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1727587783 642066 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if run on a nonhalting program, so an infinite loop is an obvious choice for the thing to do instead
< 1727587805 556712 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because a) it's a reasonable error value and b) it means that you can do the halting test computably
< 1727587808 99036 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes but still how would you know?
< 1727587835 623714 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you just run it and see if it halts
< 1727587843 781839 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it doesn't, you get an infinite loop
< 1727587848 333973 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that still wouldnt work
< 1727587856 247263 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you would have to do it for infinite time
< 1727587859 591737 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to check
< 1727587868 96834 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, if it halts, it'll halt eventually
< 1727587868 430992 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if its actually loops forever
< 1727587878 469084 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727587879 993502 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if it doesn't then you get an infinite loop, which was defined as the behaviour if given an onhalting program
< 1727587886 22773 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if it …
< 1727587889 792288 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooooooooooooh
< 1727587890 829740 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you get the right behaviour in both cases
< 1727587906 953973 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am pretty sure I have used this trick before, but can't remember where
< 1727587921 772705 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1727587933 25897 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1727587938 606215 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, the other problem with this idea is that L and R are only interesting in a version of Underload that doesn't have !
< 1727587947 840418 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :couldnt you use the lambda calculus stuff to do this combinator
< 1727587956 13565 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, hmm, maybe they can be interesting even with it
< 1727587969 696558 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :R is uninteresting, it just becomes a lot of !, but L is still interesting
< 1727587979 787274 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's basically a question of "what can be put on the stack to make this program halt?"
< 1727587981 341716 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727588018 255679 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait
< 1727588026 653330 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs : can you push the result to stack?
< 1727588030 973762 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if there's any input that can do that, it is possible to find it by brute force via running the program on all possible inputs in parallel until one of them halts (starting the parallel runs one at a time so that you can actually get started)
< 1727588047 246751 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, the result would be a function that pushes the desired stack state when executed
< 1727588066 621482 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait…oh
< 1727588075 453987 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. take the program (:^)*:^, that halts if given the input ()(!), so the result would be (()(!))
< 1727588089 536930 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul ()(!)(:^)*:^
< 1727588095 94140 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul ()(!)(:^)*:^(finished)S
< 1727588099 833940 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot isn't here
< 1727588101 67897 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but in what format
< 1727588108 235319 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just push all the elements needed?
< 1727588110 144290 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`! ul ()(!)(:^)*:^
< 1727588113 49869 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/bin/!: line 4: /hackenv/ibin/ul: No such file or directory
< 1727588128 739287 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, assuming you want it to work like L from the proof
< 1727588139 625638 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ls hackenv/ibin
< 1727588141 5583 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ls: cannot access 'hackenv/ibin': No such file or directory
< 1727588144 598758 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ls /hackenv/ibin
< 1727588145 797409 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1l \ 2l \ 7 \ adjust \ asm \ asmbf \ axo \ bch \ befunge \ befunge98 \ bf \ bf16 \ bf32 \ bf8 \ bf_txtgen \ boolfuck \ brachylog \ c \ cintercal \ clcintercal \ cxx \ dimensifuck \ forth \ glass \ glypho \ haskell \ help \ java \ k \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ lua \ malbolge \ pbrain \ perl \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ sh \ slashes \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda \ whirl
< 1727588148 704774 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well i do
< 1727588152 175521 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`! underload ()(!)(:^)*:^
< 1727588153 578229 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output.
< 1727588181 354199 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I picked (:^)*:^ as an example because it cannot be made to halt with only empty elements
< 1727588195 342107 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting
< 1727588209 214108 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yea
< 1727588373 133523 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what condition do you need for R in this combinator
< 1727588414 552411 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so basically L produces a stack state from which the argument halts, and R pops the elements that it produced while running
< 1727588431 949905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :R is only interesting in Underload-without-! because if you have !, popping elements is easy
< 1727588446 953694 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727588485 507930 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i het help when im done wi5 editing
< 1727588486 606846 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the output of R depends on the output of L because there can be more than one input that lets it halt, producing a stack of different depth
> 1727588576 256055 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PP'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141360&oldid=141359 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+329) 10/* syntax */
< 1727588586 899340 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727588646 750300 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i did it! i think
> 1727588746 844021 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Why tho14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141361&oldid=140325 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+77) 10/* computational class */
< 1727588788 743972 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I think I wouldn't use a language like that – it is basically Underload without `a`, with different syntax, and with a few extra commands that I'm not sure why I'd use them
< 1727588808 824906 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1727588809 701782 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would be more likely to just write in Underload-without-`a` directly, if I had a reason to do that
< 1727588831 604159 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, without `a` and `~`
< 1727588841 264946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :without `a` you don't get `~` for free
< 1727588857 557835 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
> 1727588860 161061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kwert14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141362&oldid=107539 5* 03Arctenik 5* (+885) 10Add halt command
< 1727588873 887509 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whatwas the esolang logo name agian
< 1727588881 223245 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"trilime"?
< 1727588889 456374 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh k
< 1727588907 463733 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if it has an official name, but the wiki's logo is called a trilime sometimes, because it has three slices of lime in it
> 1727588916 949051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A+B Problem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141363&oldid=141336 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+88) 10/* ! */
< 1727588928 978217 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is on the page about it
< 1727588934 300328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the image was originally a placeholder, but we liked it so it stayed around
< 1727588960 859806 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i hope it does forever
< 1727588975 432936 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok i got an esolang idea from the trilime
< 1727588979 646167 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :somehow
< 1727589015 408925 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i get feedback for it maybe?
< 1727589080 247277 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need to go to bed soon, but there may still be time
< 1727589084 350063 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727589087 273583 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am trying to figure out an esolang idea myself at hte moment
< 1727589088 51835 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idea:
< 1727589096 576272 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have 3 weeks
< 1727589101 646311 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*weels
< 1727589114 317636 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with symbols that can be changed
< 1727589116 765041 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which I started working on in 2018 but couldn't figure it out
< 1727589119 323021 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs : and you also have a string
< 1727589142 363130 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is an operation
< 1727589162 18364 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that takes the three symbols currently pointed to
< 1727589169 342179 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and append it to string
< 1727589178 209601 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also append this string to the program
< 1727589180 568319 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and
< 1727589193 207014 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dlete a char pf string
< 1727589239 315178 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*delete chat of string
< 1727589274 24531 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the basic idea was "a continuous version of The Waterfall Model", and I think you make it work by a) getting rid of the steady decrement, b) having zeroing triggers instead be velocities that are applied to the other counters while a counter is zero (counters don't change themeselves away from zero), c) allow two counters to be simultaneously zero only if one decreases the other and the other increases the original (in which case it's the increasing trigger 
< 1727589275 503915 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that runs)
< 1727589312 499201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in order to make that esolang work you will have to find an interesting way to make the wheels matter
< 1727589326 201133 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont understand waterfall model
< 1727589328 546950 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what prevents people just leaving them in place and changing the current symbol
< 1727589335 92193 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :effect of the, being
< 1727589341 450072 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :smartly written
< 1727589353 853776 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you don't understand the "rules"/semantics of The Waterfall Model? or how to write in it?
< 1727589366 539650 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both
< 1727589377 432843 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well writing is only possible with the semantics
< 1727589387 755505 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*whell
< 1727589392 589376 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wutever
< 1727589392 866822 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Waterfall Model Online might help 
< 1727589443 331950 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727589448 542652 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill look at it
< 1727589454 336352 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although it might still be a bit hard to understand, it has a few tools to help, such as an example program that gives you explanation when you hover over the cells (probably doesn't work well on an ipad) and an interpreter/bugger
< 1727589497 926492 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as of now i understand
< 1727589546 56171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* interpreter/debugger
< 1727589576 624334 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a tool for putting bugs *into* programs would be nicely esoteric, but probably not very useful (it is easy enough to do by hand if you want to)
< 1727589614 282522 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about an esolang
< 1727589618 525891 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that works on errors
< 1727589628 997929 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :computation would be like looking for errors
< 1727589655 905235 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's at least one great "naturally occuring" esolang like that
< 1727589686 179809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :using page faults, which are a type of error-like thing that occurs when a program tries to access a memory address that doesn't correspond to physical memory
< 1727589719 304489 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally that causes a segmentation fault, but it can sometimes happen legitimately because the kernel swapped the memory out to disk, or because it's a memory-mapped file that hasn't been read from disk yet
< 1727589722 161944 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i understand waterfall now
< 1727589727 733915 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wanna make my own synax tho
< 1727589733 769914 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*syntax
< 1727589782 966372 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :someone found a way to make pagefaults continuously trigger each other in a way that was Turing-complete-up-to-memory-restrictions, allowing programs to be run on a typical computer despite no CPU instructions running
< 1727589798 860320 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1727589811 25864 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but more “modern” errors
< 1727589815 634051 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like python errors
< 1727589937 216848 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway ill make a waterfall model syntax
< 1727589992 103419 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :found it: https://github.com/jbangert/trapcc
< 1727589998 846937 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we should probably have an article about that?
< 1727590002 681647 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1727590056 593814 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes we should
< 1727590060 750787 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i wont write it tho
< 1727590300 466977 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll do it. We already have a page [[Mov]] covering the Movfuscator, a similar vibe.
< 1727590326 176053 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool korvo!
< 1727590466 546184 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Is [[Category:Esoteric subset]] alright for this? Ideally we'd have [[Category:Weird machines]], which is for the more general situation of an esoteric set with a weird superset of semantics.
< 1727590506 247520 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the esoteric subset category is a mess, putting the article there until we figure out the best place for it won't make more of a mess
< 1727590538 402758 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727590550 912452 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would technically fit in the implementations category, but I'm not sure that that would actually be a useful categorisation (it's interesting not because of the implemented language but because of the implementing language)
< 1727590619 511954 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 QUIT :Quit: Client closed
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< 1727590799 925720 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true
< 1727590945 882291 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 does the limit of waterclock values needed?
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< 1727591200 413868 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: could you rephrase the question? I think it may have been mistranslated
< 1727591240 342462 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does there need to be a limit of the waterclocks
< 1727591255 564614 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hmm, now I look at trapcc again, it says the instructions are "move, branch if zero, decrement" which become an LBA if generalized to infinite memory rather than Turing-complete (unless you have indirect addressing and arbitrarily many negative addresses)
< 1727591286 724183 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ipadwwwww: the waterclocks can store any positive integer, that's the only way the language has access to infinite memory
< 1727591308 776788 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but on the online thing it says it needs a limit
< 1727591310 334759 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm
< 1727591311 404272 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in practice, when a program needs to be able to store arbitrary amounts of data, it normally stores them by using the digits of a number like a stack
< 1727591312 80247 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wutever
< 1727591337 854108 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, the limit is to tell the interpreter the largest number in the original program, not the largest number that might be reached during execution
< 1727591353 897847 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh but is that needed?
< 1727591399 314511 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's partly to allow it to know how much memory to allocate when reading the program in, and partly so that a particular implementation would work correctly (it needed a number in the top-left corner that was bigger than the other numbers on the top row)
< 1727591421 194334 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :neither of these are really good reasons, but that was the mood I was in at the time – I probably wouldn't do that nowadays
< 1727591421 253259 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1727591512 812473 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your rlly good at esolang. i wish i was too
< 1727591529 137279 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've had a lot of practice
< 1727591539 913701 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my first esolang was so bad I didn't even post it on the wiki
< 1727591540 269710 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive had too
< 1727591590 980104 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye for now i think
< 1727591603 786101 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't remember exactly how it worked, but memory was a hex grid where each grid element was made out of four ASCII characters, and I think there was an instruction pointer, but commands only read and wrote to grid elements adjacent to the comand itself
< 1727591606 825015 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye
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< 1727591629 224230 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was intending to make some sort of point about the wire-crossing problem, but the language didn't really make the point I wanted to make and also I wasn't entirely sure what it was
< 1727591775 788460 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Underload was a lot more successful, but I kind-of created that one by accident (it's a subset of a terrible language called Overload I was working on but never worked out most of the details for – Overload would probably be considered in the "golfing language" genre in today's terminology)
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< 1727591786 950074 :ipadwwwww!~ipadwwwww@213.239.88.180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool idea
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> 1727591829 962404 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Page fault14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141364 5* 03Corbin 5* (+952) 10Hack out a stub. Need to think for a few more minutes before writing an intro.
< 1727591870 373905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the vast majority of Overload was never finished or specified – it had pointers to other parts of the data/program, which acted like goto statements if you tried to execute them, and they could be navigated through the sexp tree using A and D for car and cdr, and a and d to do the inverse movements
< 1727591889 427232 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and those were overloaded to work on lists too, which is how the `a` command from Underload got its name
< 1727591919 657332 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pointers were intended to use identifiers in square brackets to show the source and target (I think the pointer target was [name] and the pointer itself was ]name[?), which is why you can't put square brackets in an Underload program
< 1727591939 701349 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, I'm not gonna write an intro paragraph. The WP page does a decent job of explaining how a healthy MMU should work.
< 1727591945 776682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I can no longer remember why you can't put angle brackeys there)
< 1727591987 571144 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the category is just "Concepts" rather than "Esoteric concepts", IIRC
< 1727592581 115751 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, yeah, I suppose only that one section is esoteric.
> 1727592639 924803 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Page fault14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141365&oldid=141364 5* 03Corbin 5* (-9) 10
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> 1727596221 857206 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S*bleq14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141366 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+981) 10Created page with "'''S*bleq''' is a derivative of [[Subleq]] by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] ==Differences== Now the command  a b c Would subtract memory address b from memory address a, storing result in later, and then go to memory address mem[c] 1727596363 324399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141367&oldid=134200 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+83) 10/* List of OISCs */
> 1727596398 489233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S*bleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141368&oldid=141366 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+44) 10/* Differences */
> 1727596467 345033 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S*bleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141369&oldid=141368 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+28) 10
> 1727596710 813468 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141370&oldid=141244 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+44) 10Updated some other links
> 1727596719 652972 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141371 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+4141) 10Created page with "[[Translated ZhongWen/None1 again]] is not crazy enough, so let's be crazier! ~~~~  1. Take that shitty file: 
  Distans, (gen.), Distantis      10    interficointerficereintereciinterfectus ..."
> 1727596818 854169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None1 again14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141372&oldid=141206 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+46) 10
> 1727596939 194508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141373&oldid=141349 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+100) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727597387 166647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141374&oldid=141370 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-498) 10That "Self interpreter" is just ()^
< 1727598673 872657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
> 1727598770 716929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141375&oldid=132992 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+92) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1727598846 849114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beatnik Extended14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141376 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+639) 10Created page with "{{Stub}} '''Beatnik Extended''' is two seperate [[Turing complete]] extensions of [[Beatnik]] created by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] ==Additions== ===Infinite Beatnik=== This version is only different from Beatnik by having unbounded non-negative integers i
> 1727599109 432582 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beatnik Extended14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141377&oldid=141376 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+160) 10/* Additions */
> 1727599167 325829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!English/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141378&oldid=141151 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+86) 10
> 1727599176 890675 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!English/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141379&oldid=141378 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+0) 10/* Cheating quine */
> 1727599301 574306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:PUBERTY14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141380 5* 03Emelang 5* (+42) 10Created page with "holy fuck this esolang sucks shit "
> 1727599686 95997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beatnik Extended14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141381&oldid=141377 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+391) 10
> 1727599807 386579 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07While true (cat)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141382&oldid=141023 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-38) 10
> 1727599904 855748 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beatnik Extended14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141383&oldid=141381 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10/* Assembly notation */
> 1727600442 973519 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(1)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141384 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+96) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} {{wrongtitle|title=[1]}} '''[1]''' is an array [[esolang]] created by [[User:Ractangle]]"
> 1727600536 595861 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lingua abstrusa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141385&oldid=140502 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10
> 1727600971 889705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141386&oldid=141285 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+136) 10/* Interpriter */
> 1727601418 199343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141387&oldid=141386 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-605) 10
> 1727602418 455747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 without a Quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141388&oldid=140985 5* 03None1 5* (-1) 10/* Commands */
> 1727602442 759294 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 without a Quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141389&oldid=141388 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */
> 1727602509 320367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 without a Quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141390&oldid=141389 5* 03None1 5* (+90) 10/* Examples */
> 1727603605 214833 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(1)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141391&oldid=141384 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+64) 10
> 1727603709 554447 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(1)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141392&oldid=141391 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+17) 10/* Start */
> 1727603947 604462 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Path (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141393&oldid=141212 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-297) 10/* Implementation */
< 1727604460 105488 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in
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< 1727604546 200977 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname
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> 1727605405 926883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141394&oldid=141176 5* 03None1 5* (+104) 10/* Request category deletion */ new section
> 1727605418 234296 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141395&oldid=141394 5* 03None1 5* (+236) 10/* Request category deletion */
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> 1727605634 111095 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Category:Usable10]]": undiscussed category; and categories that would have to contain most of the languages on the site aren't useful
> 1727605678 141238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/common.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141396 5* 03None1 5* (+65) 10Try out (I'll probably not go to esolang wiki in national day anyway)
> 1727605838 38155 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/common.css14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141397&oldid=141396 5* 03None1 5* (+28) 10Change links to blue so that i can distinguish them
< 1727606660 929245 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown
> 1727606693 792126 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!Romanian14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141398&oldid=141185 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2) 10/* Commands */
> 1727607109 268357 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141399&oldid=141254 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1727607173 875462 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141400&oldid=141399 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-11) 10
> 1727607236 762541 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141401&oldid=141397 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10
> 1727607281 586099 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141402&oldid=141401 5* 03None1 5* (-93) 10It's going too crazy
> 1727607405 483118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141403&oldid=141395 5* 03None1 5* (+280) 10/* 1 */
> 1727607446 210023 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141404&oldid=141403 5* 03None1 5* (+288) 10/* I seem to think you're a decent admin */
> 1727607747 460670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141405&oldid=141400 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1727607855 342774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141406&oldid=138925 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+3) 10
> 1727608044 357229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trapcc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141407 5* 03B jonas 5* (+24) 10Redirected page to [[Page fault]]
> 1727608383 256159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141408&oldid=141405 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10
< 1727608394 381674 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for categorizing trapcc, it should go to the same category into which we put the article about construction to run computations on M:tG
< 1727608418 940244 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the problem is, that article isn't on the wiki
> 1727608485 505560 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141409&oldid=141408 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1727608556 141948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141410&oldid=141406 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (-997) 10some interpreter quirk fixes are now official
> 1727608584 977146 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhatLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141411&oldid=141410 5* 03DGCK81LNN 5* (+9) 10/* Instructions */
< 1727608640 887964 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do I understand that The Waterfall Model is known to be TC with 6 counters? because I don't see https://esolangs.org/wiki/The_Waterfall_Model mentioning this explicitly, and it would be interesting to know
> 1727608681 199802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141412&oldid=139083 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+319) 10/* i think i need a help */ new section
> 1727608710 419631 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141413&oldid=141412 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10/* Don't fucking go too far */
> 1727608724 865286 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python But WORST14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141414&oldid=141273 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+33) 10
< 1727608728 624775 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2024-09-28.html#lC
> 1727608801 104116 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141415&oldid=141404 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+238) 10/* Some more questions */
< 1727608813 868194 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 "an LBA if generalized to infinite memory … unless you have … arbitrarily many negative addresses" => x86 supports negative addresses almost as easily as positive addresses, so I think the correct generalization to infinite memory would have arbitrarily many infinite addresses.
< 1727608867 320751 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course it's hard to tell what that generalization is, since the addresses are just 64-bit integers, but you could at least have 2**54 bytes or so memory, more than most computers have RAM
< 1727608903 932607 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ok
< 1727608921 254258 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...related: the A20 gate
> 1727609357 661816 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141416&oldid=140136 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10
> 1727609517 611255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141417&oldid=141415 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+177) 10/* Delete blank pages */
> 1727609534 409815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141418&oldid=141417 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Delete blank pages */
> 1727609582 967844 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141419 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+3153) 10Created page with "[[Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again4]] is not crazy enough, so let's be crazier!(from PSTF)  1. Take this completely smashed file 
 SS NSMAe LDFCNAAANLSID  CNE   Scmnlsdaei5 Bobbinltaalaa Klindlfhark  BBNLTALtfdl BLBL Ud,n DinnaiiennnltU,
> 1727609622 262587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141420&oldid=141373 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+51) 10
> 1727609645 86401 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StupidStackLanguage/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141421&oldid=137802 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10
> 1727609647 114787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141422&oldid=141371 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+48) 10
> 1727609659 998227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StupidStackLanguage/Examples14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141423&oldid=141421 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10Redirected page to [[StupidStackLanguage]]
> 1727609678 909849 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141424&oldid=139437 5* 03B jonas 5* (+63) 10/* Todo */
> 1727609682 217915 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/PSTF Again414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141425&oldid=141419 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+39) 10
> 1727609700 592105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StupidStackLanguage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141426&oldid=135313 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World */
> 1727609714 62410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StupidStackLanguage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141427&oldid=141426 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Hello World */
< 1727609750 786417 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 "memory was a hex grid where each grid element was made out of four ASCII characters, and I think there was an instruction pointer, but commands only read and wrote to grid elements adjacent to the comand itself" => that sounds like the ICFP 2004 language, but the description for that doesn't seem to credit you so it's not likely
> 1727609794 798989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141428&oldid=138876 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10
> 1727609859 761480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141429&oldid=141418 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Delete blank pages */
> 1727610180 140550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:The dark reader at home.jpg10]]"
> 1727610199 985177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141431&oldid=141269 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1727610217 310273 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated !Romanian14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141432 5* 03None1 5* (+1596) 10Created page with "Translated !Romanian is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], it is [[!Romanian]] but horribly translated with Baidu.  ==Steps== 1. Original program 
 Program truth, intare, ieire nceput     Citete truth     Dac truth = 0 atunci         Scrie 0     Ct ti
< 1727610331 6099 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean the grid elements aren't *explicitly* represented as four ascii characters in that. each grid element that isn't rocky contains 6 bits of red ant pheromones, 6 bits of black ant pheromones, possibly one of 182 ants with a numbered identity (the numbers are important because they give the order that they execute their instructions) with their finite control in one of 10000 states and an 
< 1727610337 30499 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :orientation that can be facing any of the 6 neighbors, and an amount of food with 480 total food around the board. that's a bit too much state for four ascii characters, but it's not unreasonable to store the state of the 182 ants separately, and perhaps even an overflow list for the cells with lots of food (there can't be many such cells) separately. if you go radical and even the position of the 182 
< 1727610343 37359 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ants is separate then the rest would fit in four ascii characters, but you don't want that because you probably want to be able to look up the ant from its position because of how ants interact. still, it could be a precursor language for ICFP 2004.
< 1727610462 860278 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my first esolang was psz, I should at some point write about its story a little bit and explain what bad decision I made developing it that ruined it.
> 1727610709 545753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/common.css14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141433 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+31) 10Created page with "a {  color: black !important; }"
> 1727610777 876448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141434&oldid=141433 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+0) 10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[User talk:Unname4798/common.css]] from "wikitext" to "CSS"
> 1727610777 894239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[02User talk:Unname4798/common.css10]] from "wikitext" to "CSS"
> 1727610805 435283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02User talk:Unname4798/common.css10]] to [[User:Unname4798/common.css]]
> 1727610948 544235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02User:Unname4798/common.css10]] to [[User talk:Unname4798/common.css]] over redirect
> 1727610948 565348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete_redir10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10Unname4798 deleted redirect [[02User talk:Unname4798/common.css10]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[User:Unname4798/common.css]]"
< 1727610972 412176 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a larger language called Overload => indeed, that explains why most of the commands have strange names. I can understand * and ^ , and : could be from Befunge, but ! and ~ and a and S seem strange
> 1727611014 189374 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07f14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141439&oldid=140533 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+20) 10/* Syntax */
> 1727611056 553065 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141440&oldid=140601 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10
> 1727611086 990849 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07f14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141441&oldid=141439 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Cat program */
< 1727611147 332307 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although now I wonder if that's any later language that uses ! or ~ or a or S for similar things because the notation is inspired by Underload
> 1727611234 171104 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/common.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141442&oldid=141437 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+0) 10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[User talk:Unname4798/common.css]] from "CSS" to "plain text"
> 1727611234 187265 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[02User talk:Unname4798/common.css10]] from "CSS" to "plain text"
> 1727611352 29145 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141443&oldid=141367 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+1) 10
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> 1727611611 636227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Beatnik Extended14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141444&oldid=141383 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+83) 10/* Assembly notation */
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> 1727612751 419130 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[076 bytes of useless element14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141445&oldid=141440 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+93) 10/* Example Programs */
> 1727613403 636871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141446&oldid=141300 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+126) 10/* TODO list */
> 1727614109 511004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!HOR14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141447 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+187) 10Created page with "This is basically [[!]] but horribly translated ==Codes ig== Truth-machine  (An introduction).  Start with your hand.  (I = "0") please {"0"; stop}  (I = "1") {repeat (1) {"1";}}."
> 1727614308 629383 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolfScratch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141448&oldid=109033 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Commands */
> 1727614333 119253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolfScratch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141449&oldid=141448 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+3) 10/* Hello World */
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< 1727615396 6389 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 if you see this, how do you come up with esolang names?
< 1727615421 680726 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it can be difficult, normally I don't try too hard
< 1727615448 400080 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :many of them are references to vaguely programming-related things that I think would be funny to reference
< 1727615469 920040 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how did you come up with incidents time
< 1727615472 709366 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the rest are just descriptive, e.g. Bouncy Counters is an esolang formed of counters that bounce back to -1 if you put them to 0
< 1727615473 642589 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*name
< 1727615502 495730 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I think an esolang deserves a particularly good name I try harder, I had several days to think about Incident and to name it
< 1727615518 906681 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that one was made for a competition so I put additional effort into it
< 1727615520 239791 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but where does it "come from"
< 1727615541 36657 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't remember – I remember where I was at the time, but not what I was thinking
< 1727615574 922993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes it is just a case of figuring out a meaning you want for the name, and going through all the possible synonyms until you find one with a fun seond meaning
< 1727615588 960021 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*second
< 1727615592 516283 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with that one, I had enough time that I might just have seen the word "incident" somewhere and realised it was a good fit for the language
< 1727615593 940460 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why did i do that lol
< 1727615605 589019 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wiki editor's instinct :-)
< 1727615617 761077 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1727615633 5764 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure whether the "incident report" pun came before or after the language's name, or simultaneously
< 1727615653 903338 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i came up with a stupid esolang concept
< 1727615664 559059 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I should keep records of these things
< 1727615672 152502 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727615686 446864 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Esimpl is a great name, that was originally just an abbreviation and then I spotted the second possible etymology
< 1727615702 457638 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Esmipl?
< 1727615723 146812 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esimpl's designed as an efficient assembly language for compiling into esolangs, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esimpl
< 1727615732 111440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I haven't gotten around to actually doing much with it
< 1727615737 344078 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice
< 1727615747 9290 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's an interpreter, and a BF implementation I wrote to check that the interpreter worked and that the language worked
< 1727615753 606804 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that's about it
< 1727615804 755920 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the next step is probably to write a self-interpreter, the entire syntax was designed to make that efficient, but I haven't even got that far
< 1727615816 864143 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1727615825 465801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the language I'm currently working on, I spent a few hours trying to come up with a good name
< 1727615841 326181 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i try for you?
< 1727615872 342254 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a stereotypical waterfall is discrete because all the water falls down in one single vertical step, so a more continuous version would be just a steep river
< 1727615875 716609 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my current plan is "Delta Relay" – I decided I wanted "relay" in the name because it has two meanings that both fit the language, and I wanted (for this language) a name that sounds cool – "delta" sounds cool whilst also fitting the way the language worked
< 1727615906 219270 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did try variations on "waterfall" but decided it didn't fit the way the language works, because waterfalls don't flow upwards
< 1727615930 167426 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :waterjump(lol)
< 1727615933 185204 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :turn the river in its bed?
< 1727615962 188137 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I vaguely remember seeing a garden on the TV which had a water feature that was an optical illusion and appeared to flow upwards, even though it actually didn't
< 1727615975 416120 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that wasn't directly upwards, it looked slightly above horizontal (when in fact it was slightly below horizontal)
< 1727615979 84696 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice
< 1727615981 885669 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, there's already a Homespring with salmon swimming upstream
< 1727616024 903993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, I haven't thought about Homespring in a while
< 1727616076 950359 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is one of the classic esolangs; my main criticism is that "snowmelt" is too blunt an instrument and doesn't compose nicely with other features of the language (or indeed wiht anything really) and basically just exists as half a halt signal
< 1727616093 120120 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's good for advertising the language at least
< 1727616108 200385 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is the f'ing chance
< 1727616114 359393 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you talk about homespring
< 1727616115 949325 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then
< 1727616118 99519 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also, the syntax is bizarre, which is mostly fine, but the multiple-word command names that need their internal spaces to be escaped are ugly)
< 1727616121 942349 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i click random page
< 1727616129 608653 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and go TO HOMESPRING PAGE
< 1727616132 362184 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...
< 1727616132 915954 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: can you edit https://esolangs.org/wiki/The_Waterfall_Model to explicitly say that it's Turing-complete with seven clocks, rather than just link to https://esolangs.org/wiki/Spiral_Rise which gives the construction
< 1727616142 593459 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: 1 in 5987
< 1727616151 680293 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :higher if you clicked the button more than once
< 1727616156 432370 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I DID
< 1727616158 943373 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*i did
< 1727616190 950982 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I'm not comfortable with doing that until the whole thing is better-tested
< 1727616192 259169 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats a good place to write esolang
< 1727616200 88535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :while not
< 1727616204 270136 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uploading it to wiki
< 1727616207 814315 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah I see
< 1727616214 629817 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I use a text editor for that
< 1727616224 9342 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and save in a file on my own computer
< 1727616227 46588 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, text editor with local file
< 1727616244 716951 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i use hackMD usually
< 1727616348 533864 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I need to go
< 1727616353 54953 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :night everyone
< 1727616362 193345 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1727616404 647087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :good night!
< 1727616611 982726 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still find the upside down Piet draft funny
< 1727616627 573716 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1727616718 21494 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Piet#Notes
< 1727616733 351391 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and not very much related https://www.sandraandwoo.com/2012/08/23/0405-the-archer/ )
< 1727616790 98768 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh thats rlly funny
> 1727616829 872511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141450&oldid=141416 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+4) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/141416|141416]] by [[Special:Contributions/Ractangle|Ractangle]] ([[User talk:Ractangle|talk]])
> 1727616873 782507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141451&oldid=141295 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+29) 10stop labeling memorials as jokes its not funny [[user:ractangle]]
< 1727616889 64211 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wanna make an esolang with me idk? im bored and i wanna make an esolang. i have *an idea* but its not close to completion
< 1727617812 121370 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas?
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> 1727618756 349266 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainfuckconsole7414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141455&oldid=140280 5* 03None1 5* (+292) 10
> 1727619249 269426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141456&oldid=141452 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+156) 10
> 1727619299 135975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141457&oldid=141451 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1) 10none1 did the same atrocities that ractangle commited
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> 1727619418 149686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141460&oldid=130497 5* 03None1 5* (+343) 10
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> 1727620447 771124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141462&oldid=141461 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+651) 10
> 1727620479 588083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141463&oldid=141457 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10wow none1's in deep shit now
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> 1727620740 498320 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141466&oldid=141311 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+27) 102+0.01=6.2931853
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> 1727620932 512358 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141468&oldid=141298 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+203) 10/* things about me */
> 1727621267 874164 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141469&oldid=141429 5* 03None1 5* (+387) 10/* Delete page */ new section
> 1727621727 42511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Memorial language list14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141470 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+145) 10Created page with "this is just an excuse to promote BBTOS [!~~~~"
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> 1727626467 988179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141487&oldid=141484 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1) 10for those who hate me, i show no mercy. >:3
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> 1727626704 346972 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nine-hundred-eleven14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141493 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+411) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}nine-hundred-eleven is a memorial language of 9/11. it was made on 9/11/2024, but uploaded to esolangs on 9/29/2024 == commands ==  food and water - increments cell at pointer by one  tower 1 - moves pointer backwards  tower 2 - moves pointe
> 1727626722 88780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Memorial language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141494&oldid=140776 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+24) 10
> 1727626790 303165 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141495&oldid=141487 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10i never thought none1 could be worse. disrespecting the thousands who died in 9/11 *sob* the hundreds hurt in the sandbox attacks *sob* the millions dead in world war 2
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> 1727628375 165697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5*  10moved [[02User:Tommyaweosme/warsides10]] to [[Tommyaweosme/warsides]]: Unname can't edit user pages
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> 1727628431 823161 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141518&oldid=141509 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+125) 10/* Delete page */
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> 1727629369 957932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141521&oldid=141520 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+255) 10Reverted to the revision by [[User:Yayimhere]] ([[User talk:Yayimhere|talk]])
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> 1727631052 846152 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141550&oldid=141518 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+98) 10no free spech on esolang, sory \_()_/
> 1727631099 542051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141551&oldid=140784 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1457) 10Replaced content with "dont try to mesage against me  i edit ur message and eat ur signature, replace with mine"
> 1727631127 286577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vulture00114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141552 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+183) 10Created page with "can you plz make a logo for my esolang: [[ch34t) c0d3|my esolang]]. you make rlly cool logos ~~~~"
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> 1727631192 523781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141554&oldid=141467 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+257) 10
> 1727631237 257497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141555&oldid=141554 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+30) 10no free spech on esolang, sory \_()_/
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> 1727634363 842309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Obscure14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141573&oldid=140700 5* 03Coffeeenjoyer 5* (+735) 10example programs
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< 1727644796 673147 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a ASN.1 file containing a UUID. Why does the "dumpasn1" program list the UUID twice and then says "Error: OID has invalid encoding"? The file looks like OK to me.
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> 1727646438 536480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141584&oldid=141574 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+651) 10
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> 1727648163 613817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Jail system makes no sense14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141585&oldid=141579 5* 03Ais523 5* (+806) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Tommyaweosme|Tommyaweosme]] ([[User talk:Tommyaweosme|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08|ChuckEsoteric08]]
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> 1727648331 571543 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Tommyaweosme/warsides10]]": Deleted to make way for move from "[[User:User:Tommyaweosme/warsides]]"
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> 1727648407 565537 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Tommyaweosme/warsides10]]": cross-namespace redirect left over after a page was moved to the correct namespace
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> 1727649012 613616 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PkmnQ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141592&oldid=141562 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (-403) 10that's not staying there
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> 1727653288 969670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141594&oldid=141593 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (-1) 10no free spech on esolang, sory \_()_/
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> 1727654465 589433 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Jail system makes no sense14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141598&oldid=141585 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10hahahaha i translated it into [https://lingojam.com/floopytranslator floopy]
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> 1727654759 789585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Memorial language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141599&oldid=141580 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10PRANKED AGAIN!!!!!1
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> 1727655363 896766 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141609&oldid=141596 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+2) 10
> 1727655404 243635 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141610&oldid=141608 5* 03Ais523 5* (+229) 10/* Editing talkpage comments */ that doesn't work either
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     CBZ            CBZ  ..."
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> 1727695983 451656 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Policy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141646&oldid=67563 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+212) 10/* I don't want some people to abuse their signatures to show that they're getting too much support or opposition. */ new section
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> 1727700183 377998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TINBFD14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141655 5* 03None1 5* (+48) 10Redirected page to [[THIS IS NOT A BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVE]]
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< 1727700708 327223 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is this a good esolang and what do you think the computational class is?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Turtle_just_want_to_dig#examples
> 1727700751 45853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141657&oldid=141653 5* 03None1 5* (+263) 10/* ban tommyawsome */
> 1727700987 588305 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141658&oldid=141657 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* ban tommyawsome */ add :
> 1727701190 492674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated !Romanian14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141659&oldid=141623 5* 03None1 5* (-569) 10
> 1727701623 658189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None1 again214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141660 5* 03None1 5* (+1871) 10Created page with "Let's make [[Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again5]] crazier!  1. Take that program: 
                          ..."
> 1727701664 729489 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141661&oldid=141658 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1108) 10/* ban tommyawsome */
> 1727701878 527713 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Julia/None114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141662 5* 03None1 5* (+2226) 10Created page with "Let's translate [[Translated Julia/PSTF]]!  1. Original program 
 The size of the area is a measure of how it looks Then create. Even a knife on the company's head will pass. Doors can be symbolized by doors, and some have doors. On the contrary, _n It'
> 1727701939 721145 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141663&oldid=141661 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+208) 10
> 1727702293 575641 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141664&oldid=141654 5* 03None1 5* (+68) 10
> 1727702938 123565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141665 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2809) 10Created page with "Let's make [[Translated ZhongWen/None1 again2]] EXTRA CRAZY! HAHAHAHAHAHA.  1. Take that brainfucked program: 
                           ..."
> 1727702985 13235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/None1 again214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141666&oldid=141660 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+71) 10
> 1727703121 376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141667&oldid=141638 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+109) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
> 1727703176 44201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ZhongWen/Mihai Again514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141668&oldid=141626 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+46) 10
< 1727703437 782925 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I was told that on the Plan9 OS, most system calls, including all file system access, is sent through some network protocol roughly like NFS, in a way that's uniform between when the actual operation is executed locally or a remote server.
< 1727703470 507662 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know much about this, but I wonder if you studied that, it might be relevant
< 1727703491 112812 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is apparently called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P_(protocol)
> 1727705210 522318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BubbleLang/Keywords14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141669&oldid=140974 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+21) 10
> 1727705327 915785 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuck you!14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141670&oldid=115484 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+78) 10
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> 1727707921 617860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141671&oldid=141663 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+135) 10/* ban tommyawsome */
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> 1727708595 681490 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Govnom Srat' Pomojet Letat'14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141672&oldid=122304 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+137) 10/* Title */ new section
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> 1727709596 324852 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141673&oldid=141628 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1147) 10
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> 1727709720 118784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141674&oldid=141673 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+285) 10
> 1727709856 359260 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141675&oldid=141551 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-21) 10
> 1727709882 244504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141676&oldid=141671 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+166) 10/* Block tommyaweosme */
> 1727709948 945021 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141677&oldid=141676 5* 03Xff 5* (+111) 10/* Block tommyaweosme */
> 1727710172 75752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141678&oldid=141674 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1129) 10/*       */ new section
> 1727710173 439060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141679&oldid=141647 5* 03Xff 5* (+79) 10/* Why */
> 1727710414 598705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/warsides14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141680&oldid=141679 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+333) 10Reverting possible vandalism by [[User:Tommyaweosme|Tommyaweosme]]. Revert if I made a mistake. Thanks, [[User:MihaiEso|MihaiEso]]!
> 1727710495 914893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bbtos14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141681&oldid=141678 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+859) 10
> 1727710736 499546 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141682&oldid=141677 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+298) 10/* Block tommyaweosme */
> 1727710928 547672 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141683&oldid=141682 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+201) 10/* Block tommyaweosme */
> 1727711144 746307 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141684&oldid=141683 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+776) 10
< 1727711567 216644 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.206.114.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT :
> 1727712756 12190 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cammy/Hives14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141685&oldid=140249 5* 03Corbin 5* (+469) 10/* First-order Jets */ From my notes. This would be how to implement e.g. cryptography.
> 1727714360 842148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Funciton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141686&oldid=140899 5* 03Xff 5* (+36) 10/* Example programs */
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> 1727714625 81227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Andrei Machine 900014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141687&oldid=128342 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-25) 10You can readd [[:Category:Non-textual]] if the esolang is actually not textual
> 1727715093 985996 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PixelatedStarfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141688&oldid=141033 5* 03Xff 5* (-7) 10/* logo plz! maybe? */ gggfr is my acc
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> 1727715380 435235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Andrew's Programming Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141690&oldid=101754 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+257) 10/* Some name idea  */ new section
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< 1727718442 610239 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am aware of Plan9. Like Plan9, my design also uses message-oriented protocols instead of needing many more system calls, although there are also many differences from Plan9. However, the article that I had written is not about a specific protocol, but about the message schema format to specify the expected type of an initial message for a specific program.
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< 1727718707 109537 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, now I think that, although I had defined a constraint that a string must be the Common Data Format, what it does not yet define is a constraint that it follows a specific format of the Common Data Format without needing to encode the header. Also, I had missed a fixed length string type.
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> 1727718927 422422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141694&oldid=141446 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+51) 10
> 1727719049 756394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141695&oldid=141694 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-4) 10
< 1727719254 274688 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It is also possible that some of these things might be unnecessary and should be removed, maybe.)
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> 1727726144 733572 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Literally just a turing machine10]] to [[]]
> 1727726186 594112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141698&oldid=141696 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-742) 10Replaced content with "'''''' is an esolang created by [[User:Ractangle]]"
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> 1727727345 262603 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141700&oldid=141699 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+53) 10Distinguish confusion
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> 1727727423 864599 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07B14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141702&oldid=139163 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+28) 10, category
< 1727727665 411573 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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> 1727728303 125641 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141703&oldid=141675 5* 03Ais523 5* (+21) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/MihaiEso|MihaiEso]] ([[User talk:MihaiEso|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Tommyaweosme|Tommyaweosme]]
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> 1727732409 598290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141704&oldid=138790 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+577) 10/* Implementations */ added my esolangs
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> 1727733806 568173 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141705&oldid=141701 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+10) 10
> 1727734133 715129 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141706&oldid=141705 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+141) 10/* Syntax */
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> 1727736491 116959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:S l o w14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141708 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+13) 10Created page with "Python slower"
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> 1727739259 970473 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Policy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141709&oldid=141646 5* 03Ais523 5* (+924) 10/* I don't want some people to abuse their signatures to show that they're getting too much support or opposition. */ this is obviously a rule, but there are questions about how the rules should be presented on the page
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