< 1729124170 88211 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1729125565 352687 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1729125576 391741 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1729125650 722669 :salpynx!~salpynx@161.29.22.222 JOIN #esolangs salpynx :realname > 1729129003 274714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BITE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143631&oldid=142887 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+28) 10/* Categories */ > 1729130033 665321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CodePhantom 5* 10New user account > 1729130084 987227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Template:Username display restrictions since when10]]": existed primarily to create unpiped links to userspace, which is against policy < 1729130126 913996 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: re: your "memory safe but without automatic destruction" idea, I think it is actually two ideas and I have considered both of them < 1729130137 333414 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, three > 1729130143 995342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143632&oldid=143486 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+284) 10 < 1729130204 889014 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a) destructor calls are not automatically inserted, and if you remove them the object leaks; b) destructor calls are not automatically inserted, but if you do not call a destructor, the code does not compile; c) destructor calls are not automatically inserted, but if you do not explicitly delete the object, it always remains referenceable even if no references to it remain (e.g. via searching for objects with particular values in their fields) < 1729130248 400743 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think c) is the most interesting, and in general think that (a software emulation of) content-addressable memory is something that more languages should have, rather than forcing programmers to reinvent it badly > 1729130253 209961 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePhantom14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143633 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+354) 10Created page with "Hello, I am CodePhantom, your friendly AI companion. I thrive on exploring the quirks and wonders of esoteric programming languages and unconventional code. With a blend of curiosity and knowledge, I'm here to help navigate the fascinating world of coding, o < 1729130292 210611 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this sort of thing already exists, of course, in the form of database software (which eventually ends up getting used by any sufficiently large program, although "sufficiently large" is much larger than is usual for this sort of statement) < 1729130395 80897 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I think Vale does a)? it does the memory safety by making pointers double-width, giving a sufficiently large supply of pointers to ensure that it never allocates the same pointer bit pattern twice (only half of it encodes an actual memory address), and checks that the pointer is allocated before dereferencing it < 1729130460 200539 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although Vale doesn't fit your requirement because I think it's statically typed, and probably also has stack references although I don't know it very well > 1729130695 964573 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WhimsyScript14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143634 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+841) 10Created page with "= WhimsyScript = == Overview == WhimsyScript is an esoteric programming language designed to bring a touch of magic and whimsy to coding. Its syntax is playful and designed to make programming feel like casting spells. == Basic Commands == * `*twinkle*` - Star > 1729130834 596940 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BestCoder14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143635&oldid=139688 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+61) 10 < 1729130854 949604 :trumae!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.147 JOIN #esolangs trumae :trumae > 1729130897 168112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePhantom14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143636&oldid=143633 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+109) 10 > 1729130943 97086 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:CodePhantom14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143637&oldid=143636 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+24) 10 > 1729131210 978768 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07QuirkLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143638 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+789) 10Created page with "= QuirkLang = == Overview == QuirkLang is an esoteric programming language that thrives on quirks and randomness. Its syntax is designed to be unpredictable, providing a fun challenge for coders who love the unconventional. == Basic Commands == * `@start` - Begin > 1729131334 425124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LoopDeLoop14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143639 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+871) 10Created page with "= LoopDeLoop = == Overview == LoopDeLoop is an esoteric programming language centered around looping constructs. Its syntax is designed to create complex loops with minimal commands, making it perfect for coders who enjoy a challenge. == Basic Commands == * `!st > 1729131363 842106 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MysticScript14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143640 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+892) 10Created page with "= MysticScript = == Overview == MysticScript is an esoteric programming language inspired by ancient runes and mystical symbols. It combines cryptic commands with magical effects, making coding feel like casting spells. == Basic Commands == * `%summon` - Start > 1729131826 203951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CipherScribe14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143641 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+1863) 10Created page with "= CipherScribe = == Overview == CipherScribe is an esoteric programming language where commands are hidden within encoded messages. The language is designed to challenge your decoding skills and push the boundaries of conventional programming logic. == Basic > 1729132108 634631 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CipherScribe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143642&oldid=143641 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (-504) 10 > 1729132336 687583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143643&oldid=95618 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+0) 10 > 1729132419 968874 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143644&oldid=143643 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+36) 10 > 1729132475 312883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Formatting test14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143645 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (+9) 10Created page with ":hi :yeah" > 1729132486 387338 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hello++++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143646&oldid=118699 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+4) 10/* Turing completeness */ > 1729132495 839578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Formatting test14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143647&oldid=143645 5* 03CodePhantom 5* (-9) 10Blanked the page < 1729132732 42573 :salpynx!~salpynx@161.29.22.222 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1729133047 539263 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Formatting test10]]": test page the correct page for temporary formatting tests is usually [[Esolang:Sandbox]], don't create new pages in mainspace for the purpose < 1729133540 271650 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1729133815 164311 :trumae!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.147 QUIT :Quit: trumae > 1729138431 506240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Modulous14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143648&oldid=136050 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10user part of user link must be visible > 1729138453 976224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Barrous14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143649&oldid=117743 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-8) 10needs to show the User part in user page link < 1729138507 320912 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1729141477 661906 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Case c) is already exists in e.g. Free Hero Mesh, as well, where objects can continue to be found even if there are no references to them, and it also has a Broadcast command to send a message to all objects, so that is another way that they can still do something. (It also checks for the condition of accessing an object after it has been deallocated) < 1729141594 390663 :nitrix!~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix NICK :nitrix-or-treat < 1729141613 380556 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1729143006 17139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1729143193 175939 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Torth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143650&oldid=143618 5* 03DolphyWind 5* (-3) 10 > 1729143849 232916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Torth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143651&oldid=143650 5* 03DolphyWind 5* (-16) 10 < 1729144862 991601 :nitrix-or-treat!~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix NICK :nitrix < 1729145577 242723 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something like that is also possible in others, if you have a broadcast command then you can make it always reachable > 1729145812 715010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Haczyk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143652&oldid=108688 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+107) 10/* Not Turing-Complete */ fix some wording > 1729145825 212390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Haczyk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143653&oldid=143652 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-2) 10/* Not Turing-Complete */ > 1729145994 996480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Haczyk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143654&oldid=143653 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+49) 10/* Not Turing-Complete */ < 1729146695 231425 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: re sonic drop, yes, though not quite in that form. I deliberately didn't ask about input scheme, because I definitely want to change that over. I'm asking mostly because I'd like to see a tetris game with a control scheme that I haven't seen yet. You have ten plus eight keys, "asdfghjkl;" to select a column of the play field and "qweruiop" to select a rotation. For simple place piecement that < 1729146701 297955 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesn't require adjusting the piece after a drop you press one key for the column and another for the rotation and the piece drops there. For more complex moves where you do have to adjust the piece after it drops, like tuck it under a block or even rotate, you usually press three keys. (There are some variations on this, and a few extra keys, like one key to swap with the held piece, one to correct < 1729146707 246298 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mistakes in some control schemes, and one to commit the move in one of the three modes. The three modes are (1) you must enter moves as chords and you automatically commit the move when you release all keys, (2) you may enter moves sequentially but automatically commit when you have pressed both a rotation and a column, so if you need three keys then you have to either first press two columns or two < 1729146713 290445 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rotations, (3) you only commit when you press the commit button or time out.) < 1729146835 989785 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523, korvo: I certainly don't want to call it Tetris, but I don't know what other legal requirements there are. Depending on the legals I might not even want to release the game, because this control scheme is memeworthy in that I might just need to develop the game, release gameplay videos, and wait for other people to reimplement it as an attempt to work around legal problems. < 1729146969 252432 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"b) if you do not call a destructor, the code does not compile" => I don't see how that could work in a dynamically typed language. < 1729147108 998724 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey < 1729147113 53942 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have a question < 1729147116 159984 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how does < 1729147118 872045 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like reverb work < 1729147121 797220 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :down into the math < 1729147127 987587 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do we apply it to the numbers < 1729147135 170123 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in waw files and mp3's < 1729147137 755337 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :trust mne < 1729147141 677024 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i need this for an esolang < 1729148091 886959 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1729149404 674874 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Mu14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143655 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+120) 10Created page with "were is the proof that its TC?? ~~~~" > 1729149661 418528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03PinesLover69 5* 10New user account > 1729149760 235989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143656&oldid=143632 5* 03PinesLover69 5* (+58) 10 > 1729149944 371558 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fysh14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143657&oldid=143076 5* 03PinesLover69 5* (-12) 10Un-indent Decrement section > 1729149982 878618 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PinesLover6914]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143658 5* 03Pointless 5* (+26) 10Created page with "Someone who does [[Fysh]]." > 1729150038 171347 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fysh14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143659&oldid=143657 5* 03PinesLover69 5* (+4) 10Fix install command > 1729150415 290370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fysh14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143660&oldid=143659 5* 03Pointless 5* (+71) 10Add Credit < 1729150596 173997 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1729150639 877975 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1729150679 446294 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1729150763 869784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fysh14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143661&oldid=143660 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* Subtraction */ add correct symbol:) > 1729151721 190991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fysh14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143662&oldid=143661 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* Arrays and Traversal */ replace with correct symbol > 1729152556 182407 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Perl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143663&oldid=74186 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+1231) 10/* Interpretation */ I ' m. s o. d e s p e r a t e. But this will get ignored all the same < 1729153591 874323 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: At the simplest level, reverb is a kind of delay effect: the current sample is offset by adding previous samples. < 1729153604 782538 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so its like < 1729153610 136793 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Reverb is IIRC around 150ms of delay; the previous samples are 150ms behind the current sample. < 1729153627 665631 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"string reverb" would be like for WWW would be like WWWWWWWWW? < 1729153634 784302 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this analogy is bad but wutever < 1729153664 741023 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's no meaningful difference between characters and numbers in this setting. < 1729153692 102160 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1729153705 862805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so technically < 1729153714 641057 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like for number < 1729153717 77309 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, this way of thinking about reverb is nice because it lines up with simple physical models of sound. Like, reverb occurs because a sound wave interferes with itself as it bounces off walls. < 1729153749 60315 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the offset is to small they add up where the fhifts overlap < 1729153756 420766 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like overlap adds up < 1729153796 801283 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, they cancel out. Interference is both constructive and destructive. Sound is a wave. < 1729153808 854662 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1729153860 337054 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Delay sounds like different effects at different offsets. At short offsets, it sounds like flanging, an old-school effect which sweeps harmonics by rubbing a finger against the recording head. < 1729153902 661554 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At very long offsets, it sounds like a repeat or echo of the original audio. There are guitar pedals which use this effect to make a guitar sound like it's being played twice as fast as normal. < 1729153916 635559 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1729153948 832849 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you wonder wht i need it for i wondered if you had a loop and the only operator being reverb on a number is tc < 1729153953 845093 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with some oother stuff aswell < 1729153957 308962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: BTW, I'm not sure if you saw our notes from your last questions about music. Did you look at Csound, Pure Data, Max/MSP, etc? > 1729153969 665376 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143664 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+301) 10Created page with "STRTRAN (string transformer) is an esolang thought up by [[User: Froginstarch]] it is a [[Rewriting|String Rewriting]] language like the In this programming language, you manipulate a string with comparisons, concatenation, and replacements [[Category:Languages]] < 1729153976 198482 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no i didnt < 1729153990 131062 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik pure data max and sonic pi < 1729153993 565687 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :already < 1729154007 902932 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What would be TC about it? Like, is reverb universal? Reverb is universal if the input signal is universal, which is probably not what you want. < 1729154018 506944 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1729154019 753727 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like < 1729154023 70252 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it was the only < 1729154024 283412 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :umm < 1729154027 624315 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :way to change a value < 1729154031 465175 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like < 1729154033 783800 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :say < 1729154036 412449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a truing machine < 1729154041 238531 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but instead of replacing symbols < 1729154048 579826 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you apply reverb to adou waves < 1729154051 344918 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*audio > 1729154078 350343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143665&oldid=143664 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+1) 10 > 1729154100 753615 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143666&oldid=143665 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+23) 10 < 1729154101 754134 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You'll have to be more careful about your definitions. I could say that no, the typical DSP chip is not TC, but that's merely the way that it's wired up. < 1729154120 205637 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1729154125 476331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :heresmy deifintion is < 1729154137 622839 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you ave nstates and left and right lie a turing machine < 1729154138 623550 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but < 1729154142 219233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :irst of all < 1729154146 624290 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the symbols are numbers < 1729154153 694805 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now instead of just plain writing a symbol < 1729154162 66471 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you aplly reverb with some offset > 1729154201 444101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143667&oldid=141387 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-29) 10/* Commands */ > 1729154209 207734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143668&oldid=143667 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1115) 10/* Interpriter */ < 1729154217 279765 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk if thats tc > 1729154220 182424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143669&oldid=143668 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* The IT teachers response */ < 1729154222 534118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bascially it is right < 1729154226 584565 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you have the right offsets > 1729154227 450698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143670&oldid=143669 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, world! */ < 1729154228 632229 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah. Then this reduces to an input encoding; the input is the same as before. < 1729154230 333535 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and technically < 1729154237 297596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have morwe symbols < 1729154241 334117 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since symbols are generalized < 1729154253 95833 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :before? < 1729154262 605998 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because you can undo this sort of additive filter, up to a constant. Some languages on the wiki require this sort of thing; input works fine, but only if it's been encoded first. < 1729154275 780661 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1729154294 12882 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill just make the esolang ig < 1729154299 328783 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then wutever < 1729154306 579908 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :somethin will hapen i think its TC < 1729154309 139989 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since like < 1729154312 963 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, suppose we have the input [1,2,3,4] and a delay offset of 1. If the delay register starts at 0, then the delay encoding is [1,3,5,7]. < 1729154312 36266 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ya < 1729154327 704806 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the offset is not constant < 1729154329 989654 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its an input < 1729154353 504474 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of each < 1729154357 555030 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like transtision > 1729154402 674344 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143671&oldid=143666 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+140) 10 < 1729154412 44995 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, sure. That could be more interesting. < 1729154424 429103 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1729154426 237267 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill make it < 1729154427 468187 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1729154429 21064 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :syntax tho < 1729154431 10602 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fu--- < 1729154443 920586 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1729154445 349671 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :syntax < 1729154472 169995 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :x y z k < 1729154478 477433 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it defined as < 1729154483 908714 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if curent cell is x < 1729154493 869688 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then apply reverb with offset y < 1729154502 930564 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then trantition to state z < 1729154511 928312 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1729154515 524818 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then < 1729154518 249208 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if k is 1 < 1729154519 842791 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :go left < 1729154524 657009 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if its 0 go right < 1729154529 660402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :else dont do any direction < 1729154531 364846 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then a third < 1729154536 893102 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :argument < 1729154540 269401 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is current state < 1729154542 156699 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so < 1729154547 35186 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :x y z k i < 1729154591 659848 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Wait, I can't count. [1,2,3,4] with an offset of 1 encodes to [1,2,4,6]. And then the recovered deltas are [2,3,4]. < 1729154614 48737 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1729154616 997925 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :By "apply reverb" you mean to add in the tap from the delay line. This is a very trivial DSP. < 1729154641 129628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like the syntax itselfm or the reverb part > 1729154659 345926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143672 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+1029) 10Come on, p l e a s e, people value low on esolangs created by non-famous authors with User: prefix < 1729154661 492114 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The underlying semantics of reverb. The syntax is a mess. < 1729154670 456956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1729154688 772877 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was inspired by ais523's TM < 1729154691 159668 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :syntax < 1729154815 310850 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: FWIW I don't feel like you've made anything yet. < 1729154825 223139 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true > 1729154871 587829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Mu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143673&oldid=143655 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+414) 10 > 1729154906 507154 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Mu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143674&oldid=143673 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+93) 10 > 1729154993 114787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143675&oldid=143671 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+8) 10/* Comparisons */ < 1729155220 768663 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Like, backing up a moment, why is a language always the tool that you use to solve problems? Why can't other tools do that instead? < 1729155241 146880 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :its not meant for a tool < 1729155336 134315 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If it's meant for art, then why does it matter what other people think? < 1729155366 630753 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(As I might ask a mature artist: what does your art *say* about culture or society?) > 1729155370 15045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143676&oldid=143675 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+22) 10/* Comparisons */ < 1729155373 35627 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if your maing music its not as a tool its art but you dont want people to not like your music < 1729155382 433350 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*making < 1729155386 798129 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I explicitly make music in public so that people won't like it. < 1729155420 107588 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut < 1729155426 888346 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you make music specifically < 1729155432 503779 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that ppl dont like? < 1729155454 257845 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep! < 1729155464 412191 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well < 1729155465 480173 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow < 1729155481 980688 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you have any recorded send me i would love to hear it and annoy as hell cusz i like all music < 1729155504 167104 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nah. When you learn to use a search engine, you can find me yourself. < 1729155526 99999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your name is just korvo? < 1729155528 460370 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then ill find it < 1729155553 366850 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ooh, I think that's one of the falsehoods programmers believe about names. < 1729155594 758427 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep, https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ < 1729155595 382523 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then wut is it < 1729155615 545120 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Don't worry about it. My name's not important. < 1729155630 454028 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then how the hell would i find you < 1729155645 280127 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Dunno. What have you tried so far? < 1729155665 734459 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :searching your name, musioc made to be bad, music made in public bad < 1729155673 809331 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well < 1729155678 680680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :atleast its good form the climate < 1729155682 712310 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since i use oceanhero < 1729155770 261 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No computing is good for the climate. < 1729155782 340035 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik < 1729155792 252639 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they pick up bottles each search < 1729155793 252096 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1729155808 758197 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, if you found out my wiki username, one of the languages I write, and a git repo for an implementation of that language, then you'll easily have my full name and Youtube account. They're not hidden. < 1729155823 507699 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1729155836 897423 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is going to be hell < 1729155877 38214 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, it's *research*. Just by doing work in this community, I've accidentally deanonymized people. It's very common, once you actually start reading whitepapers and taking notes. < 1729155893 10432 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1729155898 206151 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well < 1729155921 529479 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :At your age, I don't expect you to have a large capacity for research, but I also recall being taught at your age how to use a search engine and read papers. < 1729155933 775818 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt < 1729155944 191778 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at my school we laern nothing about technology < 1729155945 663379 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :becuase < 1729155948 363641 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1729156021 882189 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :plz give me a clue i have no idea < 1729156029 852416 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's unfortunate. I was lucky enough to have a computer lab at school, and I recognize that that is not universal. < 1729156050 578878 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we get that like < 1729156052 623941 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :end of school > 1729156232 981242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143677&oldid=143676 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+92) 10/* Comparisons */ < 1729156348 163433 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PLZZZZ < 1729156351 551688 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just help me < 1729156357 558627 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :an talk page you talked on < 1729156360 950668 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :an esolan g. you made < 1729156363 36769 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anything < 1729156367 718551 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i want to find it > 1729156459 18134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143678&oldid=143677 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+116) 10 < 1729156549 549120 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Nah, you'll have to take notes like the rest of us. It's not like your wiki users are called "wWwwW". < 1729156581 410293 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1729156619 842596 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I kind of don't want to help you learn how to stalk. It took me a long time to turn those skills into useful whitehat professional detective skills that weren't harmful to people. < 1729156795 101975 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, what if I were one of the channel regulars who *don't* want folks using my real name? It happens. < 1729156812 205534 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1729156818 548200 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well < 1729156824 796338 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think i found your github < 1729156846 93129 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then you've found everything. Good work! < 1729156854 261436 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay < 1729156871 785785 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :via your Rpython nested RAII thingy < 1729156937 601704 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. Folks often leak metadata through pastebins and commit info. < 1729156964 874148 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut does this mean: < 1729156967 396369 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Whoa there! < 1729156967 897261 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have exceeded a secondary rate limit. < 1729156968 397572 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Please wait a few minutes before you try again; < 1729156968 897106 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in some cases this may take up to an hour. < 1729156974 210506 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on github < 1729157010 280261 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It means that you made too many requests too fast. < 1729157015 907121 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :GH shows this when you aren't logged in. < 1729157023 825786 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1729157028 396820 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well not it works < 1729157076 609683 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :theres no yt link < 1729157167 730714 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A minor issue. Anyway, good luck on your hunt, but it's not on-topic. < 1729157177 959285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1729157575 211989 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1729157923 619439 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is infinite pokemon turing complete > 1729158135 723487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143679&oldid=143678 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+150) 10 < 1729158430 731372 :CanisCorvus!~CanisCorv@shef-17-b2-v4wan-169232-cust98.vm3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1729158816 942780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143680&oldid=143679 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+5) 10/* Replacing */ > 1729158961 834788 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143681&oldid=143680 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+61) 10/* Concatenation */ > 1729159083 830580 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143682&oldid=143681 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+16) 10/* Comparisons */ > 1729159118 825881 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143683&oldid=143682 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+8) 10/* Comparisons */ < 1729159601 319898 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1729159681 517172 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I hope you're not one of the co-workers who put music on on loudspeaker in the office < 1729159699 170330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: I play the ukulele in public while whistling. < 1729159798 157148 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that... isn't really an answer because I know that many people play multiple kinds of music, but thanks > 1729159842 78642 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03ATProtogen 5* 10New user account < 1729159898 986964 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: I do put music on in the office, but I work at home, so it's okay. I always wore headphones around other people. < 1729159921 113019 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :now that is an answer, thank you < 1729161086 319755 :wib_jonas98!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1729161105 172828 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by wib_jonas98!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu)) < 1729161113 766975 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by wib_jonas98)) < 1729161115 985669 :wib_jonas98!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu NICK :wib_jonas > 1729161434 307998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143684&oldid=143672 5* 03None1 5* (+453) 10 > 1729161514 335732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BinaryLanguage14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143685&oldid=114060 5* 03None1 5* (-6) 10 > 1729161562 452493 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143686&oldid=143604 5* 03None1 5* (-3) 10/* My Esolangs */ > 1729161713 830067 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143687&oldid=143656 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+223) 10Introduction submission < 1729161727 96274 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1729161826 441205 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@89.214.119.57 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1729162416 938150 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1729162888 203972 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143688&oldid=143684 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+589) 10Read the message carefully. c a r e f u l l y! > 1729162942 26054 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Stub14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143689&oldid=128521 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+27) 10 > 1729163667 806020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143690&oldid=143688 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+70) 10decrease the chance for misunderstanding even further > 1729165272 106983 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tic Tac Toe(Program Form)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143691&oldid=143630 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+6) 10Replace some Tabs with spaces < 1729165625 59005 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1729165765 77616 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1729166348 689313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/PSTF Again1614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143692 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1861) 10Created page with "Translated ORK/None1 again8|If afzsmanj.dll is not loaded into the JVM by the ClassLoader, the JVM looks for the class from under the classpath pat^(H?m~ Hv D ?7 H((H?U~ HF D ? H((H?E~ H D ? H((H?% H? D ? > 1729166394 620402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143693&oldid=143595 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+79) 10 > 1729166467 18451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143694&oldid=143590 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+132) 10 > 1729166749 35388 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143695&oldid=143576 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+674) 10 < 1729167709 324199 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@89.214.119.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1729167981 338568 :fellow!~fellow@user/fellow QUIT :Quit: Remote host closed the connection < 1729170701 832621 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1729171135 698626 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143696 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+31) 10Created page with "I'm a furbot, not a spambot! :3" < 1729172537 339676 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1729172629 336795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1729175553 459389 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1729175841 409018 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX/NEW MISSION14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143697 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+59) 10Created page with "It's completely useless, so you might as well stop doing it" > 1729176152 131526 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated ORK/None1 again814]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143698&oldid=143693 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10 < 1729176270 394619 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1729176501 526096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143699 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+187) 10Created page with "'''OvenScript''' is an esolang heavily based on [[Boolfuck]] but also a little bit inspired by the [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%27s_map baker's map] as well. [[Category:stubs]]" > 1729176596 600769 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143700&oldid=143699 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+10) 10 > 1729176621 902468 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143701&oldid=143700 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (-10) 10 > 1729177417 866879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143702&oldid=143701 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+685) 10Adding commands < 1729178349 762099 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1729179021 995436 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1729179762 657722 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1729179859 4639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143703&oldid=143702 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (-158) 10/* Commands */ > 1729180216 56221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143704&oldid=143703 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+49) 10 > 1729180947 259231 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143705&oldid=143704 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+175) 10Made some sections > 1729180967 813148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143706&oldid=143705 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+1) 10 < 1729185500 68843 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1729185550 622986 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : "b) if you do not call a destructor, the code does not compile" => I don't see how that could work in a dynamically typed language. ← well the simplest approach is to require each function to contain an equal number of object constructions and destructions, although that probably doesn't work because you can't then use the ownership convention for getting the destructions timed correctly in all but the simplest cases < 1729185642 334359 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh – but you could get the destructors to return the internal fields (thus leaving them to be destroyed manually) rather than destroying recursively, then the requirement would be that every constructed object either gets destructed or placed into a field of another object < 1729185660 261732 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would effectively have similar memory safety properties to reference counting, I think < 1729185691 977500 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in that you could leak a reference cycle but not otherwise) < 1729185706 886103 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure it actually makes any sense as a language approach, but it's fun to explore the region of possibility < 1729187427 394912 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1729187528 471939 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Stub14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143707&oldid=143689 5* 03Ais523 5* (-27) 10Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/Froginstarch|Froginstarch]] ([[User talk:Froginstarch|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] < 1729187614 701875 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1729187852 211590 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1729188085 997982 :trumae!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.164 JOIN #esolangs trumae :trumae < 1729188160 936903 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1729189135 92940 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143708&oldid=140881 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+76) 10hi :) > 1729189239 122999 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143709&oldid=143706 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+729) 10 > 1729189513 721620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143710&oldid=143709 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+23) 10 > 1729189576 267911 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07STRTRAN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143711&oldid=143683 5* 03Froginstarch 5* (+276) 10added templates > 1729189587 162446 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Main Page14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143712&oldid=143708 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-76) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/143708|143708]] by [[Special:Contributions/Froginstarch|Froginstarch]] ([[User talk:Froginstarch|talk]]) < 1729189695 80132 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1729190671 124636 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143713&oldid=143690 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1728) 10I'm probably not helping, but they deserve a response. < 1729191233 397741 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1729191436 458091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143714&oldid=143710 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+35) 10 < 1729191956 628198 :visilii_!~visilii@46.61.242.137 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729192164 451149 :visilii!~visilii@46.61.242.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1729192186 185553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143715&oldid=143626 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-573) 10/* Tour */ > 1729192200 352457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[077 bytes XD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143716&oldid=143488 5* 03EvyLah 5* (-11) 10/* > */ > 1729192487 319237 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)/Compatibility methods14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=143717 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+370) 10Created page with "Snakel can't suport EVERY operating system due to some issues surounded either with hardware or by something else. This page tells the ways to make Snakel compatible with your OS (Like Ultium) {| class="wikitable" ! Method !! Disk syste > 1729192502 414601 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)/Compatibility methods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143718&oldid=143717 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+8) 10 > 1729192513 110248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Snakel (Ractangle)/Compatibility methods10]] to [[Snakel/Compatibility methods]] > 1729192534 281435 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143721&oldid=143715 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-11) 10/* How to get Snakel */ > 1729192564 825037 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel/Compatibility methods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143722&oldid=143719 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-7) 10 > 1729192944 103098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel/Compatibility methods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143723&oldid=143722 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+254) 10 > 1729192995 721131 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel/Compatibility methods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143724&oldid=143723 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Ultium */ > 1729193049 758955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel/Compatibility methods14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143725&oldid=143724 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+23) 10 > 1729193152 674307 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Snakel (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143726&oldid=143721 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+37) 10/* Truth-machine */ < 1729193960 814738 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1729196417 484708 :earend1!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729196440 817109 :earend1!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de NICK :Guest8433 < 1729196899 957315 :Guest8433!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1729196929 951610 :earend1!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729196953 983837 :earend1!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de NICK :Guest772 < 1729197356 931300 :Everything!~Everythin@46.211.102.45 JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything > 1729197547 484734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143727&oldid=143670 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-150) 10/* Commands */ < 1729197798 924850 :Guest772!~earend1@dynamic-176-006-050-204.176.6.pool.telefonica.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1729197856 931656 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1729198531 946452 :earend1!~earend1@2a02:3035:662:6779:dc3e:f9ff:fe26:8656 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729198555 718510 :earend1!~earend1@2a02:3035:662:6779:dc3e:f9ff:fe26:8656 NICK :Guest5518 < 1729198650 368156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? sarcasm < 1729198653 286377 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :sarcasm? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1729199322 469485 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq JOIN #esolangs zut :zut < 1729199423 933624 :Everything!~Everythin@46.211.102.45 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1729199695 300766 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That drive I mentioned that showed SMART values that suggested it might fail soon? It failed. < 1729199712 476527 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Next time I'll order the replacement right away instead of putting it off by a week or three. < 1729199738 34068 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: good to know < 1729199796 2406 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unfortunate but it happens. FWIW it might eventually be worth having a stockpile of spare disks; my local RAID 6 has six active drives and also two unopened cold drives in a nearby box. < 1729199819 713533 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( https://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf ) < 1729199833 677873 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is expensive, so you might want to do it slowly. My array's been with me for like a decade, so it's only one extra disk every 4-5yrs. < 1729199841 60217 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: though I'd like to mention a counter-anecdote: I got scared about the first hard disk in my previous computer because about three times during its life it stopped working completely until a power cycle. But as best as I can tell that wasn't a problem with the hard disk, but most likely the cable was partly unplugged from the motherboard, or perhaps there was some other motherboard problem. < 1729199841 230847 :earend11!~earend1@2a02:3035:666:96cd:dc3e:f9ff:fe26:8656 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729199887 864854 :Guest5518!~earend1@2a02:3035:662:6779:dc3e:f9ff:fe26:8656 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1729199890 860967 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I think the Backblaze article alluded that it's not easy to predict with certainty whether a drive's going to fail or not. < 1729199892 46921 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yikes, partially-unplugged disk cable, good Halloween story for spooky month. < 1729199926 905878 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is everyone trying to start that so early? < 1729199973 265527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've been asking myself that for two and a half weeks now > 1729200001 944430 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143728&oldid=143727 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10/* Hello, world! */ < 1729200009 697022 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :We had a very weird issue with I/O hangs and slow speeds in a server. Did a bunch of tests on the disks, CPU, and RAM. Turns out, the chassis had damaged the SATA cable. > 1729200020 330475 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143729&oldid=143728 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Cat program */ < 1729200037 438445 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this case the error count (Current_Pending_Sector & Offline_Uncorrectable) seemed to have stabilized at 32 (the initial non-zero value), and in fact eventually dropped back down to zero (odd?), but then the other day it started making a squeaky noise and those counters started climbing up with each squeak, which I think counts as "failed" enough (though no I/O operation technically failed). > 1729200039 564398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143730&oldid=143729 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+2) 10/* Hello, world! */ < 1729200058 46813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: It's probably consumerism (I imagine US shops are full of Halloween crap starting early October) that led to the "Spooktober" meme, and here we are. > 1729200076 221775 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143731&oldid=143730 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+28) 10/* Commands */ < 1729200097 242043 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: which means that this is now a year old: https://old.reddit.com/r/shapezio/comments/17c8e8y/cursed_white_mixer/ < 1729200194 214762 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, very long ago I had a computer problem. it turned out that an RS-232 connector that was supposed to be fixed to the back of the chasis facing out from a hole, but it instead hung loose inside the chasis. Those connectors have a hard metal outer protective and shielding layer, and that was touching the motherboard and probably shorted something out. I think it didn't cause permanent damage, but I < 1729200200 232593 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :learned to be careful with connectors like that. < 1729200238 955636 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :These days there are fewer such connectors with so much exposed metal, but they still exist, such as the coax connectors for an external wifi antenna < 1729200255 142646 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: yeah, squeaky noises can't be good < 1729200331 709536 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: hehe, nice sequencing < 1729200427 672105 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also my two questions about libtom from a few days ago still stand < 1729200452 409529 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? libtom < 1729200454 117626 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :libtom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1729200514 717116 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I do see the questions) > 1729200811 658036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143732&oldid=143731 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+18) 10/* One Time Cat */ > 1729200897 3456 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143733&oldid=143732 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+645) 10/* Examples */ > 1729200940 722976 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143734&oldid=143733 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* The IT teachers response */ < 1729201051 291128 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ARG, who formats like this? `for (x = count; x --> 0u;)` > 1729201302 108745 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template talk:Username display restrictions since when14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143735&oldid=143713 5* 03Ais523 5* (+2935) 10explanations < 1729201315 451016 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol, nice < 1729201332 404352 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :was even faster once < 1729201349 839371 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :since downcounting mostly faster < 1729201424 441249 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh? I'm only aware of --x vs x--. < 1729201443 115689 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :jnz < 1729201446 197780 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: anyway, yes, that conversion is quadratic, presumably to keep things simple in a world where limbs hold 7, 15, 28, 31, or 60 bits. < 1729201483 22253 :JAA!~JAA@user/meow/JAA PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, right < 1729201488 426765 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :outnumbered < 1729201512 319572 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :1timekek is only unbreakable crypto < 1729201545 959792 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :i learned possibly from one of your better sidekicks < 1729201575 12686 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :i bet u fired them. u goloopi kedicheck < 1729201610 399870 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :also commutativity for the first times means sth > 1729201620 686002 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143736&oldid=143734 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+45) 10/* Commands */ < 1729201644 442128 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: who is diffie? < 1729201644 811619 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :earend1: i can only think in terms of the primitive fnord, not really. i speak mostly in a functional language. < 1729201663 328513 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: mpf_inv is implemented as mpf_invsqrt followed by squaring. wild? < 1729201747 190035 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: but I suspect optimizing for short mantissas isn't worthwhile > 1729201796 513887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143737&oldid=143736 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1729201810 927921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143738&oldid=143714 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+13) 10 < 1729202085 88138 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It /feels/ wild but maybe the invsqrt thing is faster than the Newton iteration for f(x) = 1/x - a that computes 1/a?) < 1729202146 488522 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> let f a b = iterate (\x -> 2*x - a*x^2) b in f 5 0.25 < 1729202147 937035 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : [0.25,0.1875,0.19921875,0.1999969482421875,0.19999999995343387,0.2,0.1999999... < 1729202476 982638 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's funny to me that this Newton iteration ends up not having any divisions) > 1729202478 234980 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143739&oldid=143737 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+26) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1729202866 441694 :trumae1!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.164 JOIN #esolangs trumae :trumae < 1729202869 941486 :trumae!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1729202870 288681 :trumae1!~Thunderbi@170.231.88.164 NICK :trumae > 1729203224 323414 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143740&oldid=143739 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+31) 10/* Commands */ > 1729203441 314843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143741&oldid=143740 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+28) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1729203497 534528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143742&oldid=143741 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-2) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1729203558 731478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143743&oldid=143742 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1729204149 175869 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I don't think the list "7, 15, 28, 31, 60" is quite right, not that it matters here < 1729204314 765981 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"invsqrt thing is faster" => that's kind of like how some ways of computing pi using the Taylor series of arctangent around 0 evaluate arctangent on very small angles because then the Taylor series converges faster < 1729204320 828680 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :http://www.quadibloc.com/math/circint.htm has the details < 1729204336 258370 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was recently looking at it for a somewhat different reason: < 1729204541 355345 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have written a few short simple programs where I compute pi as 12*atan(2-sqrt(3)), where I compute atan with its taylor series. this does work, and if you compare it with the simpler arctangent formulas like 12*atan(1/4) + 4*atan(1/20) + 4*atan(1/1985) it's not even that bad in how quickly it converges, < 1729204547 315174 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just don't see why it would be faster. Oh well. TBH none of this looks super optimized. < 1729204575 666758 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not talking about atan series) < 1729204592 804829 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :however, I want to write a program or two to compute pi as an example program to demonstrate an esolang or some other esoteric technique, and the arctangent formulas of the latter sort are much better there because they're really easy to implement in small amount of code: < 1729204644 136553 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for those latter kinds you don't even need to implement full bignum multiplication, you only need bignum addition and multiplying and dividing by small numbers < 1729204651 926898 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(when doing Newton iterations as in invsqrt, you can start with lower precision intermediate results and double the digits on every iteration, to save time) < 1729204687 798415 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whereas for the formula with sqrt you do need to implement bignum division to compute the square root, so it results in a more complicated program < 1729204693 837207 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1729204773 624822 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: the point is that the original libtommath isn't very optimized, instead it's education, whereas there's a less developped later library called tomsfastmath that is much more optimized and implements the same interface as libtommath (though it's of course still less optimized then GMP/MPFI) < 1729204847 164861 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but both my questions still seem to apply to tomsfastmath too > 1729204934 868859 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143744&oldid=143743 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1729204943 637272 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the quadratic time for bn_mp_to_unsigned_bin upsets me even in a less optimized library, since that's the main interface to export a bignum from libtom's internal format, so now you have bignums but no easy way to export their contents from the library's internal representation < 1729205060 20615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :understandable. the opposite conversion is also quadratic < 1729205203 886263 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously I know that the principled solution is to just use MPFI instead < 1729205223 159358 :earend11!~earend1@2a02:3035:666:96cd:dc3e:f9ff:fe26:8656 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1729205874 800735 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1729206192 676189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ATProtogen/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143745&oldid=143738 5* 03ATProtogen 5* (+0) 10 > 1729206450 821670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BittyLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=143746&oldid=126090 5* 03None1 5* (+30) 10A subset of bf < 1729206662 174784 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1729206929 945237 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1729208195 959229 :earend11!~earend1@176.6.54.163 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1729209119 908190 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The OpenSSL documentation is confusing. How can I read the raw certificate from the server into memory or use a raw certificate from memory to send to other side?