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03:35:02 <korvo> Do we have a page on Cunningham's Game? Maybe there's a better-known name for it? Is it on-topic?
03:35:51 <korvo> For what it's worth, this is the game played by repeatedly attempting to correct somebody, only to find that your correction it self incorrect. A chain of comments, increasingly varied and unhinged, which are slightly wrong.
03:36:41 <korvo> For example, here's a start: This year, I'm growing peppers! My favorite is the *habanera*.
03:37:58 <korvo> The oldest popular example I know of is 2005, Penny Arcade https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/02/04/linguaphiles-unite but I wouldn't be surprised if it arose on Usenet first.
03:41:39 <ais523> I don't think it's an esolang
03:42:16 <ais523> I've seen people do it on Reddit, and it's hard to tell whether the first incorrect correction is intentional or not (the others clearly are, though)
03:42:23 <ais523> but I try to avoid Reddit nowadays
03:43:14 <korvo> It's on my mind specifically because it seems to only arise on some specific forums. I just saw it on HN but I know that it's not something that happens on Lobsters, precisely because Lobsters wants to not be Reddit.
03:43:40 <korvo> I've seen it on Imgur, which is Reddit-related. Also a variety of other websites. I haven't really been keeping track though.
04:01:06 <b_jonas> man, all these websites hidden behind these javascript+cookie contraptions are annoying. I bet they're like the DRMs where they often don't let your intended customers access the website but doesn't really stop anyone that the website owners wanted to keep away.
04:06:31 <b_jonas> as someone who occasionally wants to bulk download from websites, it hurts me
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15:16:38 <korvo> I think that this is a standard case of somebody using a bot (Claude, I think) and then trying to fix it up later. The first version of their GH README gives it away.
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15:20:03 <esolangs> [[Ivory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177446&oldid=177445 * Widuruwana * (-61)
15:23:09 <int-e> LOL why does every commit to README.md add a new line at the end.
15:25:02 <esolangs> [[Ivory]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177447&oldid=177446 * Widuruwana * (-5)
15:25:27 <korvo> https://github.com/widuruwana/ivory/issues/1 I've found that in these cases a nice thing to do is write up a one-paragraph issue and see whether I get a slop reply.
15:27:16 <korvo> (The standard approach for the first issue is to check timers before and after sleeping, to see how long we *actually* slept, and then compute a moving average sleep time which gives an offset. For the second issue, check timers after and before sleeping instead.)
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16:37:44 <korvo> Indeed. Very thoughtful of them.
16:46:16 <b_jonas> korvo: Timers reminds me of when I first used libcurl's async interface, called curl_multi, that lets you integrate the library into any event loop of your choice. The library tells you which file descriptors it wants to wait on for reading or writing, and also a duration for when its next timeout is. The problem is, when I woke the library up from the event loop exactly when it asked, the library often
16:46:22 <b_jonas> decided that I called it back too early and there's nothing to handle yet and I should wait another 0 milliseconds. This resulted in stupid busy loops that lasted for about a millisecond each time.
16:46:50 <esolangs> [[Talk:Ivory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177463&oldid=177457 * Corbin * (+974) /* Technical clarification on v1.1.0 and Authorship */ No worries!
16:47:31 <korvo> b_jonas: Wow, that's amazing. I wonder what the right solution should be.
16:49:54 <esolangs> [[Afth64]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177464&oldid=177462 * Lykaina * (+11) /* Command Groups */ fixing conversion error
17:02:45 * Lykaina really hopes that Afth64 is actually Turing-Complete.
17:03:26 <Lykaina> the mechanism that made Afth Turing-Complete is still there
17:03:49 <esolangs> [[Talk:Ivory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177465&oldid=177463 * Widuruwana * (+331) Replied to Mr. Corbin
17:04:21 <esolangs> [[Talk:Ivory]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177466&oldid=177465 * Widuruwana * (+1) minor mistype
17:05:53 <esolangs> [[Talk:Ivory]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177467&oldid=177466 * Widuruwana * (-184) Removing AI tag per discussion and consensus with Mr. Corbin on the Talk page.
17:10:57 <b_jonas> korvo: in the short term, just add 1 millisecond to the timeout that curl_multi reports.
17:12:53 <korvo> b_jonas: ...Yeah, me too.
17:39:26 <Lykaina> attempting to port the RPNCALC example from Afth to Afth64
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18:05:56 <esolangs> [[Afth64]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177469&oldid=177464 * Lykaina * (+712) /* Examples */ Adding RPN Calculator
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18:50:13 <esolangs> [[PizzaScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177472&oldid=177471 * Jay * (+132) /* Instalation */
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19:33:40 * Lykaina is trying to determine how to define methods in a future version of Afth64
19:34:27 <APic> Good Night, cu *
19:37:47 <Lykaina> that is, while still being compatible with Afth64 0.7, the current version.
19:40:48 <b_jonas> korvo: the longer term solution is to integrate more tightly with an event loop in such a way that instead of curl_multi querying the OS for which handle is readable/writable and the current time, it trusts what the event loop reports it, and if the event loop tells it that the timeout occurred then it tursts that. but libcurl wants to be easy to use with not much code from the user, which is why they
19:41:38 <b_jonas> but since they only give you a timeout at millisecond precision, calling them one more millisecond late is fine. libcurl only uses these timers for timeouts that don't need to be precise.
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19:53:11 <Lykaina> i think i can use a macro-like format to do it.
19:54:29 <korvo> b_jonas: That makes sense. This turns out to also matter for CPU-bound cooperative scheduling, not just for sockets.
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20:15:59 <Lykaina> The word S1OUT with definition _2IOUISn_2I_1LISnH._2-I_1LISn would output everything in stack 1 to stdout, but only if I modify the code to be able to handle the formatting code 'n', meaning newline.
20:19:02 <Lykaina> no...that would mess up the line order for jumps
20:27:22 <Lykaina> {_2IOUIS}\n{_2I_1LIS}\n{H._2-I_1LIS}
20:29:39 <korvo> No worries, it's allowed.
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21:02:20 <Lykaina> of course, give a word alternate definitions.
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