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00:06:41 <b_jonas> Sgeo: the J manual calls strings (character arrays, possibly multidimensional, as opposed to arrays of numbers or boxed) literal too, see https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/dictionary/dx003.htm
00:22:02 <ais523> Sgeo: heh, I'd actually never seen it in action before (and assumed that it might have been fixed at some point, but apparently not?)
00:35:00 <Sgeo> ais523, this compiler is Fortran G, which is for FORTRAN IV. So... not very new
00:40:44 <Sgeo> I should probably delete those equal signs. I copy/pasted from MUSIC/SP's fullscreen editor
00:45:13 <Sgeo> Same result on VS FORTRAN II, which I think is 77
00:58:51 <Sgeo> FORTRAN IV subroutines can take... statement numbers as arguments. The subroutine can say which one to return control to
01:02:21 <Sgeo> "If a dummy argument is assigned a value in the subprogram, the corresponding actual argument must be a subscripted or unsubscripted variable
01:02:21 <Sgeo> name, or an array name. A constant should not be specified as an actual
01:02:21 <Sgeo> argument unless the programmer is certain that the corresponding dummy
01:02:21 <Sgeo> argument is not assigned a value in the subprogram.
01:02:51 <Sgeo> ais523, is the behavior you stated in a spec somewhere or is it something akin to UB?
01:03:28 <ais523> Sgeo: I'm not sure of the history – I knew at least some versions of Fortran acted like that, but not why
01:11:13 <b_jonas> ais523: it makes sense, we're here fifty years later and we're still not sure how to consistently handle const correctness nicely without overhead like having to define multiple versions of subscripting methods. it's no surprise then that Fortran compilers back then would have considered enforcing const correctness a priority
01:13:46 <Sgeo> https://archive.org/details/ansi-x-3.9-1966-fortran-66/page/24/mode/1up I think this is saying the same thing, and in fact states that expressions are sent by value
01:14:02 <Sgeo> I should probably look at the 77 spec next
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03:00:24 <Sgeo> https://fortranwiki.org/fortran/show/Modernizing+Old+Fortran
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03:21:13 <Sgeo> FORTRAN II required function names to end with F
03:22:37 <Sgeo> Actually not sure if that only applies to functions defined in single statements.
03:22:57 <Sgeo> ...actually I'm even more confused now
03:27:20 <Sgeo> Statement functions end with F, subprogram functions with names 4 characters or longer cannot have their name end with F
03:31:54 <Sgeo> https://cyber.dabamos.de/programming/fortran/transcompiler/lecture01.pdf
03:38:15 <Sgeo> "This statement is kind of boring. A CONTINUE just returns to the top of a loop." pretty sure this is flatly incorrect, CONTINUE is a noop
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14:05:20 <lisbeths> korvo: do you know any Turing complete mnemonics?
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16:17:15 <korvo> lisbeths: I don't think so. I mean, I do have some stuff memorized, like LC or BF, but I don't use any tricks to remember them.
16:19:06 <lisbeths> Korvo I think blc2 is a good language for turing complete mnemonics
16:19:41 <korvo> BLC is a fine encoding but I wouldn't want to write a compiler based on it. I'd rather have abstract syntax.
16:20:12 <korvo> My current side project uses ABTs, Abstract Binding Trees, for LC. An ABT is an AST that supports abstraction, naming, and binding.
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20:41:45 <esolangs> [[Minecraft]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177868&oldid=177837 * Ractangle * (-37) not an offical command
20:43:42 <esolangs> [[Esolangs]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177869&oldid=177840 * Ractangle * (-40) i think just putting the esolang name whould make it understandable
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