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< 1772467110 852966 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vibecoding challenge 2 is live: https://lobste.rs/s/cyavky/vibecoding_challenge_2_five_feathers
< 1772467147 935523 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Feeling extremely misanthropic today. This isn't quite as bad as when COVID-19 started, but it's up there. Not a great weekend for empathy.
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< 1772574486 200752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, has there ever been a system of magic that is driven by disbelief? Disbelieve something strongly enough and the world will prove you wrong? :-P
< 1772576725 988004 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno, I only read a few of Terry Pratchett's books
< 1772576875 118127 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The closest I can think of is that Pratchett has hydrophobes that repel water, who have to be brought up on a strict diet of dehydrated water. And, perhaps vaguely related, Anoia, Goddess of Things That Get Stuck in Drawers.
< 1772576938 441827 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Not really related at all, but my brain remembered it under this prompt.)
< 1772576999 138052 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Discworld has some magic that is powered by belief
< 1772577038 953210 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is the opposite of what you asked for and is probably easier
< 1772577044 71505 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that's why I was reminded of Pratchett
< 1772577135 139222 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean he played around with such concepts. There's the vampire story...
< 1772577267 460470 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The vampires in that family were brought up studying all sorts of religious symbols in an attempt to make them ineffectual. The story ends with the vampires recognizing those symbols everywhere and experiencing a ridiculous amount of pain and losing a fight.
< 1772577368 149218 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The opposite thing would probably allure more to Smullyan than to Pratchett :P
< 1772577392 202005 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Note that in the vampire story, belief ultimately won.)
< 1772578375 208716 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Szatmári Sándor has a story about a cold reader who claims, for work purposes only, that he has oracular powers. He doesn't actually has such powers at the start of the story, instead he gives vague horoscope style advice that his clients think match them. To men with an unrequited love, he tells that the girl will love them back if the client completely abandons his desires to the girl. If the 
< 1772578381 215718 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :client returns to complain, that's proof that he still desires the girl, so he never has to pay the money back for a failed prediction.
< 1772578415 169537 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cute
< 1772578415 917258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This might count as a minor non-supernatural example for something that works on disbelief.
< 1772578473 745437 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you cleanly separate belief and disbelief? As in, is there a clear difference between disbelief in something existing, and belief in something not existing?
< 1772578475 381373 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But yeah, in any case, at least the first Pratchett examples I can think of all involve belief making the thing that you think should be, to be, rather than nature proving you _wrong_.
< 1772578607 97791 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's the God of Evolution that's maybe some kind of a special case, if not exactly that.
< 1772578669 966226 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nobody believes in him, and he himself is an atheist, but it's explained that he believes in evolution as a concept strongly enough to exist because of that. Or something along those lines.
< 1772578713 59800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the insect guy? great punchline...
< 1772578915 462211 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if the Auditors are in somewhere in this general conceptual region as well, since AIUI they don't really believe in any of the things humans do (and are actively trying to get rid of them because it's untidy), but maybe their disbelief doesn't really play into whether those things are real or not.
< 1772578916 581858 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SMBC sometimes has evolution or nature as a character, in that sometimes human characters speak with her just like they speak with god
< 1772579100 891296 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/evolution-8
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< 1772585083 412997 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.brics.dk/RS/05/1/BRICS-RS-05-1.pdf Interesting paper found during research: there's an infinite r.e. set of fixed-point lambda terms! Moreover the decision procedure could be implemented by a lambda-calculus compiler.
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< 1772665995 316585 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does anyone here know of experiments in using a game controller as an input method for writing computer programs? (ideally those in fairly normal programming languages, rather than needing to invent one for the purpose)
< 1772666015 830564 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been wondering about trying to write programs during long/bumpy car/bus journeys and what it would be like
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< 1772668748 803724 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know of anything that can't be argued into an a11y case study rather than a serious hypothesis about code quality or speed of input. I also can't figure out how to disqualify the experience of typing TI-BASIC on a TI-84 in the back of a turbulent yellow school bus.
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< 1772671216 732394 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I had heard of experiments of programming languages with game controllers before, although I do not remember now what they are.
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< 1772671479 362493 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Separate mode for command mode and insert mode like vi, might be one thing to help, maybe.
< 1772671912 249073 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. That's a feature of the editors I'm thinking about, from games like Actraiser or Portal 2.
< 1772672032 239247 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder how well uxntal would work. Depending how many buttons on the game controller (uxn itself defines eight, the same as Game Boy or NES/Famicom). 
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< 1772673371 531579 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is definitely an accessibility question, I think
< 1772673467 496435 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How many buttons does your game controller have?
< 1772673773 588461 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: this is mostly a hypothetical, but I could obtain one with quite a lot of buttons if necessary
< 1772673820 77448 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a typical modern game controller has four shoulder buttons, a 4-directional d-pad, four face buttons, two analog sticks that can be pushed in to serve as an extra button, and some special-purpose buttons that would be hard to use for general input
< 1772673936 247077 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm mentally already at the bar, speedrunning. I'm imagining entering my name in Zelda 3 with a SNES controller.
< 1772674764 646401 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the game controller I currently own is a generic one designed to be able to emulate a playstation, xbox or gamecube controller
< 1772674780 72840 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although I haven't used it in a while
< 1772674830 462163 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it also has a button to cause the analog sticks to be quantized as though they were d-pads, in case you want to emulate an older controller type like a game boy's)
< 1772674865 141816 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does it not already have a d-pad?
< 1772674991 536931 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, you can use that instead
< 1772674997 72561 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the analog stick is in a better place to press
< 1772674998 435763 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a similar pad. A Logitech USB controller. I've got like four of them; they were popular at the time.
< 1772675000 664644 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the left one, at least
< 1772675057 956617 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have realised that probably I write more comments than I do actual code, in my projects, so the main problem might be to have an efficient way to input text using a game controller
< 1772675070 646350 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the standard "move a cursor along a grid of letters" works to some extent but is extremely slow
< 1772675276 91368 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If using it for a programming language, then possibly a separate mode might be used for ordinary text than for the programming code syntax. Comments is not the only things where you might do that though; there is also e.g. character strings (although some programs will not use many character strings)
< 1772675447 129479 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and many programs that do use character strings aren't storing human-readable text in them (although some are)
< 1772675494 245726 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that is also a valid consideration
< 1772675537 970065 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like for program code, something based around strong typing and syntax similar to that of Java methods would be helpful, so that you could get a fairly list of methods that were applicable to the type of the expression you had written so far
< 1772675615 78088 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually I think an Emacs-like modal interface would work better than a vi-like one (the difference is that vi uses keypresses to change between modes, whereas an Emacs-like interface holds a key to enter commands and releases it to go back to the equivalent of insert mode)
< 1772675730 327752 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for English text, I suspect the best method involves choosing the word you want from a list of predictions, with the ability to enter an approximation to reorder the list based on a combination of prediction and similarity to the approximation
< 1772675752 88335 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most input methods that I've seen seem to boil down to that
< 1772675770 328799 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Chording would be another idea, although I do not know how well that works with a game controller
< 1772675784 159610 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mobile phones use it, and most CJK input methods work like that too
< 1772675786 363956 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(for the purpose of entering English text, I mean, rather than in general)
< 1772675804 284169 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :chording works very well on a game controller as long as you aren't chording two face buttons or two opposite d-pad directions
< 1772675854 60060 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the opposite directions are often blocked in hardware or software, whereas all game controllers I'm aware have hardware/software capable of chording face buttons but it's a physically difficult button combination to press)
< 1772675855 496818 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, but is it enough combinations when you exclude those combinations that don't work as well?
< 1772675945 543905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it should be – if you exclude diagonals on the d-pad because they're hard to press accurately, you have 4×4×2⁴ combinations that chord a d-pad direction and face button and any number of shoulder buttons
< 1772676041 709216 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like probably using only two of the shoulder buttons would be desirable if aiming for input speed, though, and not chording face buttons with d-pad because you would have to be careful to release both before pressing the next input
< 1772676072 717740 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some might be needed to switch modes (I think the Emacs will not work due to needing to enter different kind of text; in some cases the mode will switch automatically based on what command is entered in the program, but sometimes it is necessary to do so manually).
< 1772676089 900059 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(If you have four shoulder buttons then it is possible to use other one for such a purpose, I suppose)
< 1772676120 938437 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so 8×2² which is 32 – enough for 26 letters and a few special cases (and the more difficult-to-enter combinations could use other buttons)
< 1772676181 19854 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is totally doable and might actually be faster than a keyboard once you get used to it – but it also seems like it would be difficult to learn
< 1772676189 325702 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There is 5-bit code such as Baudot code
< 1772676212 922680 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the input mechanism would have to be learned from scratch, it would make sense to try to get it right first time, rather than ending up with a QWERTY situation
< 1772676256 76076 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that seem it would be a good idea, but it might be difficult to do that.
< 1772676312 760731 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION looks up prior art

< 1772676328 473470 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently some games have used 8 analog stick directions × 4 face buttons to produce a 32-option keyboard
< 1772676370 740098 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a clever idea to do chording, you don't have to worry about accidental orthogonal presses while trying to hit the diagonals because the position of the stick only matters when the face button is pressed
< 1772676519 87274 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure whether 8 is the right number of directions, an analog stick can theoretically distinguish between a very large number of directions but if you have too many a human can't hit them accurately
< 1772676589 290321 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one game I played a lot when I was younger made diagonal inputs easier to hit by using one of the shoulder buttons as a way to filter out orthogonal inputs, so that only diagonal ones would be accepted
< 1772676593 625759 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :More than eight is probably too difficult, and possibly more than four might be difficult (although maybe not); I think using buttons is probably easier, even though there are less combinations (but diagonals will be possible)
< 1772676614 889012 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that might mix well with an "8 directions on the analog stick" approach – you could have ambiguous inputs be interpreted as orthogonal if not holding the button and diagonal if holding the button
< 1772676642 44266 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that might work
< 1772676669 875796 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(although that is for when directions are needed, e.g. in a game; for text input it does not seem relevant since you can use the button combinations directly instead)
< 1772676891 910574 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gonna take this question to the bar and see if folks have any interesting examples. Back in a few hours. Peace.
< 1772677642 671881 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION measures their own typing speed with QWERTY, as a baseline

< 1772677649 851751 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's around 450 characters per minute, it seems
< 1772677663 151978 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so 7.5 characters a second
< 1772677669 232900 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it may be hard to match that with a game controller input
< 1772677677 781503 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this was tested on easy, common words)
< 1772677716 458395 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is much faster than the average person but considerably slower than people who actively aim for typing speed records, which seems about right
< 1772677829 980007 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :matching that on a game controller seems difficult, especially if chording is required, but maybe not impossible
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< 1772688725 527693 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Folks at the bar were interested but didn't have many examples. A couple folks mentioned Super Mario Maker (2), which is a good example, if buggy.
< 1772688906 583605 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I got a 2:05 in-game time on Super Metroid, which is not great IMO. I did get first-try mockball into early supers, though.
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< 1772691239 130153 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which do you think are some rules of Magic: the Gathering, or of some other game (chess, Pokemon, etc) that will only be significant very rarely that a puzzle can be made up that involves it in a way possibly other than what the rule was intended for?
< 1772691391 891904 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I have tried to do such things with Hero Hearts, revealing that some things documented as invariant weren't; e.g. the "Explain Death" option is not supposed to affect the behaviour of the game (a replay list is supposed to have the same meaning whether or not this option is enabled, and regardless of what speed it is played back at), but I made a puzzle that depends on it.)
< 1772691453 844231 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My implementation of Hero Hearts does not emulate this bug, nor does it emulate some of the related bugs, although some bugs that do not violate these invariants are emulated if they do affect the behaviour of the game.)
< 1772694352 634477 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: Yu-Gi-Oh has some rules like that but they're convoluted enough that I don't really understand how they work (and some of them may be subjective)
< 1772694393 981038 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it used to have a rule that you cannot perform an action that creates an infinite loop, which some people exploited to win by constructing a gamestate where almost any action by the opponent would create an infinite loop, forcing them to pass their turn
< 1772694444 822161 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then the rule was changed to match the situation if a loop gets created by a game rule rather than an action, which is that the judge moves the card most responsible for the loop (which is subjective and hard to define) into the graveyard
< 1772694476 12293 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I should go to bed (thanks for the discussion/ideas korvo)
< 1772694480 26275 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :night
< 1772694492 78754 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and thanks for the ideas zzo38, too
< 1772694504 261975 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Good night!
< 1772694510 92050 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it feels like this should be doable but will take some work and practice
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< 1772694683 272883 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :That rule for loops doesn't seem a very good rule for infinite loops; the rule in Magic: the Gathering looks like better to me
< 1772694905 80179 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(How commonly is rule 731 used in Magic: the Gathering puzzles?) (Although, rule 731.1c says tournaments use different rules for loops)
< 1772695119 36224 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Even the rules in Magic: the Gathering are not perfect; one change I would make is to distinguish between implicit draws and explicit draws, with different rules relating to them (and different rules cause each kind), but in both cases the final result of the game will be a draw)
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< 1772707305 445525 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a vivid recollection of having seen a video of some sort of novel input mechanism, years back, when predictive text input still felt kind of novel, but I can't recall any of the detail so not sure how amenable that would be for gamepad input.
< 1772707487 434798 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, Dasher!
< 1772707491 226352 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`thanks Gemini
< 1772707494 692943 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks, Gemini. Themini.
< 1772707502 96190 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The mini, heh.
< 1772707508 996634 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Found it in an AI-assisted way.)
< 1772707529 185066 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher_(software)
< 1772707568 25035 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I _guess_ you could use that approach with a gamepad, since it only requires a two-dimensional pointing mechanism of some kind (so a single analog stick would suffice), but it'd be throwing away most of the capabilities of one.
< 1772707690 218847 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :was this the inspiration for flappy bird :P
< 1772707732 742626 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just remembered it because it was so visual. Whoosh.
< 1772707734 612730 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Moin
< 1772707777 293128 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Apparently (at least according to the 2006 paper) imagined as a text input mechanism for brain-computer interfaces, which sounds plausible enough.
< 1772707909 534221 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you've got two eyes, two hands, and a gamepad with two analog sticks, surely you could handle an input system with two independent Dasher squares, say one for individual letters and one for predicted words.
< 1772707919 665742 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Perhaps presented on some sort of head-mounted display, one per eye.
< 1772707966 570705 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a lot of equipment to replace a *check notes* keyboard
< 1772708285 330563 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :AIUI, you're not supposed to *write* programs any more, anyway, you're supposed to just direct "agentic" things that do it for you, so surely you just need to slap a speech-to-text/text-to-speech interface on top of one of those, though.
< 1772708296 211359 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, on a crowded bus maybe that won't make you the most popular person.
< 1772708357 234106 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Dasher is a cute idea, but I imagine that its cognitive load is way too substantial for using it for anything serious. (The downside of using adaptive predictions, as I believe they do, is that you can't learn fixed input sequences.)
< 1772708519 983162 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Re: AI. https://bsky.app/profile/ianboudreau.com/post/3mgc2aaktak2s resonated strongly with me.
< 1772708592 183888 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Though if I were to express my own sentiments I'd probably dwell on the subsidy aspect of it too, and the anti-human attitude behind it all ("People? Where WE are going we won't need people!")
< 1772708902 416182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, the outcome will be terrible if this comes crashing down (maybe 2026, maybe 2027...), but I believe the outcome will be worse if any of this shit starts working (the AGI dream, the singularity...). And not because of alignment problems, but because of who is doing this and how they'll use it.
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< 1772714498 288940 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: There's an Atari 2600 game called BASIC programming, but it only technically matches your question. You are typing the command and giving commands not the normal ATARI 2600 joystick, but on a pair of controllers that each have 12 buttons in a telephone keypad arrangements. These can be used for multiple different games with printed legend overlay sheets, so they're technically game controllers. 
< 1772714504 597871 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Normally two separate players use the two controllers, but for BASIC programming they're used by one player.
< 1772714698 724938 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: If you're aiming for a bus then I don't think you can count the full range that you mentioned, as in four shoulder buttons, two joysticks, a d-pad and four face buttons. I don't think you can reasonably hold both such a controller and read a display on a bus. You can get close with a Nintendo Switch or Switch 2, but you'll only get two shoulder buttons, not four.
< 1772714852 634293 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, even just that, two controllers, only works if you're sitting on a bus, I don't think you can reasonably use the normal range of two controllers while standing. 
< 1772714930 655888 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you want to write programs while standing on a bus, one of the commercial programmable calculators could work. Their keypad is normally designed to be typed on with one hand while the calculator is sitting on a desk, but they also work for typing with your thumb with the calculator is handheld, that's just slower. 
< 1772715077 611871 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The TI-92 is an exception, it has an unusual large keyboard that's bigger than you can use with one hand. I don't really know what it's optimized for, as in how you're supposed to operate it. I've seen a working specimen in real life very long ago, but I don't think I operated it, or only for a very short time.
< 1772715128 121302 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you just want to "manage" your "agents", maybe a Tinder-like interface for proposed changes could suffice ;)
< 1772715129 616597 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There exist various hardware designed specifically to work as chorded keyboards, both ones held in one hand and ones held in two hands.
< 1772715176 637680 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Btw Atari 2600 Basic programming is very limited, but that's because the Atari 2600 has very little RAM.
< 1772715217 699438 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? memory
< 1772715221 271137 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :memory? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1772715227 800583 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if they made a better version for the Atari 5200 .
< 1772716312 660569 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've also only very briefly seen a TI-92. It wasn't particularly popular at school, I imagine mostly because it had a CAS, and therefore it was forbidden to use as a calculator in exams. We "all" just had TI-86s (the school ran a discount bulk order thing), except a few people who already had a TI-85 and continued to use it, and one or two oddball HP RPN calculator users.
< 1772716461 91591 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :TI-86 had come out in 1996, I think I entered the level of school where a graphing calculator was expected (years 7-12 if numbered consecutively starting from 1) in 1997. So it was the hot new thing.
< 1772716541 755797 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually it must've been 1996 already, because I got out of there in 2002. Off-by-one errors.
< 1772716752 983625 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I never went to any schooling where a handheld graphing or programmable calculator was expected. Only a minority of students had anything like that. Programming and drawing graphs on desktop PCs in a computer lab seating twenty-something people was expected occasionally.
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< 1772716871 127315 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We had a sorta slightly "math-focused" line, maybe that accounted for it.
< 1772716888 283412 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The teacher had a slide projector attachment for their TI-85.
< 1772716922 992395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh advanced optics
< 1772716932 909197 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :As in, a bulky transparent LCD display that you could put on top of an overhead projector (that you would put slides on) to show the display mirrored on the wall.
< 1772716961 815460 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You couldn't plug it into a regular TI-85, it had to be a special model.
< 1772716999 454142 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, a special display that doesn't melt from the projector
< 1772717014 263961 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :They'd written a TI-BASIC program that made like a stage curtain kind of an effect followed by a " presents" box.
< 1772717018 617051 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :They were _very_ proud of that.
< 1772717066 783549 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought that's the part that you do with hand-drawn transparency slide stop motion
< 1772717084 722531 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :before you put the calculator screen on
< 1772717092 563317 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also I'm not sure why I'm defaulting to a gender-neutral pronoun here, there was no ambiguity about that. Probably from writing interview feedback recently.)
< 1772717135 545057 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I guess Finnish only has the one singular third-person pronoun, and this was a Finnish person I'm talking about, could be that too.)
< 1772717158 650276 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, it's more impressive when it's Computer Graphics™.
< 1772717172 209997 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hopefully they won't mind
< 1772717210 345808 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :can you connect that projector to the students' TI-86 calculator so they can show stuff projected to the whole class too?
< 1772717240 39459 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no, you already answered
< 1772717245 283747 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"You couldn't plug it into a regular TI-85"
< 1772717295 591385 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, sadly no. It didn't do it over the link cable protocol.
< 1772717314 772807 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which as I recall is kind of an interesting protocol as well, it doesn't have a fixed baud rate, it's an async kind of a thing.
< 1772717758 245683 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, assuming I can trust Gemini (but this description _sounds_ like the one I've seen but couldn't find), it's a bit of an oddity in that there's no clock line as such, it's a three-wire protocol with ground and two data lines ("red" and "white"). To send a bit, one side pulls either the red (0) or white (1) line down, and then the other end acknowledges that by pulling the _other_ line down
< 1772717760 793902 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which the sender waits for).
< 1772717776 455826 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it runs at whatever speed the two endpoints involved can manage to run this process.
< 1772717815 497417 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, for the original question, something where the keypad looks like a good calculator keypad but has more capability to detect multiple keys pressed at the same time could work as chorded input on the bus I think
< 1772717815 710164 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And the calculator ROM code just bit-bangs it out with the Z80 CPU instead of using an UART or something.
< 1772717820 850972 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for one handed typing that is
< 1772717831 530456 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one thumb handheld
< 1772717854 993786 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'd need one of those chorded palm thingies if you want to use multiple fingers to type
< 1772720414 853067 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it's "long/bumpy car/bus journeys", not short public transport ride to school, so sitting down can be assumed. then two controllers is fine.
< 1772720423 522339 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or like two hands on a controller
< 1772720439 514275 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you might even be able to affix the display on the seat in front of you
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< 1772721221 538029 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: that wire protocol does sound a lot like async electronics (which I've worked a lot with at a previous job) – the usual protocol I would use for that in async programming uses three data wires (one for which the sender changes the logic level to send a 0, one for which the sender changes the logic level to send a 1, and one which the receiver changes the logic level to acknowledge). but that's an interesting way of reducing the number of wires 
< 1772721222 950045 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :required
< 1772721257 287014 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it does seem a little inefficient because after sending a bit, you have to unsend it and then wait for the caller to acknowledge the unsend, because you can't visibly pull down a wire that someone else is also pulling down)
< 1772722202 583105 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you've probably seen the recent video about another interesting async electronic protocol: https://www.linusakesson.net/hardware/frontpanel/index.php
< 1772722241 35916 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think technically that's async from one side only, whereas the link cable between calculators is async both ways
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< 1772724910 206820 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the problem with async in practice is that there's always at least one part of the circuit where wire propagation delay matters (in the sense that if it's too large or too small the circuit malfunctions) – there's a theorem that limits the computational class of what you can do without that to something obviously useless
< 1772724944 717154 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course, it's possible to manufacture circuits like that in practice, but it means that one of the simplifying assumptions you'd normally use no longer holds
< 1772724948 672199 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is async hardware, specifically)
< 1772725481 680757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, but we don't want fully async hardware, just an async interface between two hardware that do have reasonable timing limits inside
< 1772725511 701483 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that is possible, it just needs more wires than typical interfaces, and has a bit of overhead
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< 1772725607 552904 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the TI protocol is a four-step one. Sender pulls one line down and waits; receiver acks it by pulling the other line down and waits; sender reacts to the ack by letting the first line float back high and waits; receiver reacts by letting the other line also go back up; and that finally signals to the sender it can start transmitting the next bit.
< 1772725620 886748 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you use it where the few extra wires and the overhead doesn't matter too much, but you want portability between all sorts of different hardware, and possibly software control without too much of a specific controller
< 1772725733 943537 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this is so that you can drive this from software on a PC where the operating system can sometimes take control from the communications software for long time unpredictably
< 1772725772 35146 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :without needing extra communications hardware or special support in the operating system
< 1772725934 976173 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There were also various more or less kosher ways of wiring the link cable to a PC, including the "$4 serial link" https://www.ticalc.org/images/cables/seriallinkpic.gif , the "$5 parallel link", and for the posh, the PIClink (which uses a PIC16F84 microcontroller to translate between the calculator and RS232 in a way compatible with TI's official software).
< 1772725943 994511 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And of course also the official overpriced solution from TI.
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> 1772740527 949410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rotator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177388&oldid=164777 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+7762) 10Introduced an examples section comprehending two incipial members, added an interpreter implementation in Common Lisp, and modified the page category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
> 1772741452 837624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rickrolling14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177389&oldid=177368 5* 03Hotcrystal0 5* (+27) 10adding another category
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> 1772744129 318040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BytePusher14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177391&oldid=167714 5* 03JanitorRaus 5* (+14) 10Replace dead mega link for Langton's Ant. For those who were missing this, enjoy!
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< 1772745958 911425 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just suddenly realised that a search engine could detect adverts, or even cookie popups, as a method of filtering out websites that people probably don't want in their search results
< 1772745975 178599 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :meanwhile, I've been doing research into how chorded keyboards normally work
< 1772746006 711000 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it's the greatest fit for a games console, they mostly rely on all possible pressed/non-pressed combinations
< 1772746051 164705 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also looked into the keyboards that are used to set typing speed records, and they have a number of interesting differences from regular keyboards
< 1772746115 141919 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mostly they're based around a grid system where you can press between the keys in order to press two adjacent keys simultaneously (to act as a virtual key in between), this is combined with chording to allow the fingers on each hand to type consonants / consonant clusters simultaneously
< 1772746159 314381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the thumbs type the vowels, using a similar method but with only four states for each thumb (left key, right key, between the keys, or unpressed) to provide 15 different vowel clusters (or not at all to indicate no vowels)
< 1772746212 931274 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the chords for the fingers are normally pressed in a roughly horizontal line, rather than having the fingers move upwards/downwards individually
< 1772746234 146258 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and all this is combined with a dictionary to handle issues like "English actually has more than 15 different vowel clusters"
< 1772746268 513101 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this seems difficult to replicate on a game controller but it might be possible to adopt some of the same techniques…
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< 1772746660 908793 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: typing speed records is probably not what you want to go for for programming, because in programming the bottleneck is usually not how fast you can type
< 1772746671 187315 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: indeed
< 1772746701 525645 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but my thoughts were more along the lines of "the same techniques that are used to change normal-speed input methods into super-fast ones may change excessively slow ones into normal speed"
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> 1772753502 247371 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Alkmini14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177396 5* 03Arctenik 5* (+10008) 10Add compilation notes
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> 1772755830 76713 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lehbar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177399&oldid=177387 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (-63) 10/* Syntax */
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< 1772789852 201285 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
> 1772791529 827569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X-EX.Load14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177403 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+2598) 10Created page with "'''X-EX.Load''' is a set of [[Underload]] "subsets", which are believed by their creator, [[User:Yayimhere]], to all be less powerful than Underload(though this is unconfirmed in certain cases). Each of the subsets have their own name. Each is defined by th
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< 1772807525 387998 :dragoneater67!~dragoneat@2.135.165.51 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi!
< 1772807669 237482 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Good morning.
< 1772807681 801138 :dragoneater67!~dragoneat@2.135.165.51 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brb will setup SASL
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< 1772807779 921459 :dragoneater67!~dragoneat@user/dragoneater67 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im back
< 1772807866 954436 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nice!
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> 1772818303 584648 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Homunculus fallacy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177412&oldid=169384 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+4) 10/* Tricks and tips */
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> 1772819510 398254 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177414&oldid=177343 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+245) 10/* interpreters */
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< 1772854502 977643 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do we have a page on Cunningham's Game? Maybe there's a better-known name for it? Is it on-topic?
< 1772854551 524399 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For what it's worth, this is the game played by repeatedly attempting to correct somebody, only to find that your correction it self incorrect. A chain of comments, increasingly varied and unhinged, which are slightly wrong.
< 1772854601 499854 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For example, here's a start: This year, I'm growing peppers! My favorite is the *habanera*.
< 1772854678 639460 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The oldest popular example I know of is 2005, Penny Arcade https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/02/04/linguaphiles-unite but I wouldn't be surprised if it arose on Usenet first.
< 1772854899 541320 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it's an esolang
< 1772854936 613498 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've seen people do it on Reddit, and it's hard to tell whether the first incorrect correction is intentional or not (the others clearly are, though)
< 1772854943 724871 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I try to avoid Reddit nowadays
< 1772854994 23781 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's on my mind specifically because it seems to only arise on some specific forums. I just saw it on HN but I know that it's not something that happens on Lobsters, precisely because Lobsters wants to not be Reddit.
< 1772855020 484827 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've seen it on Imgur, which is Reddit-related. Also a variety of other websites. I haven't really been keeping track though.
< 1772856066 357337 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :man, all these websites hidden behind these javascript+cookie contraptions are annoying. I bet they're like the DRMs where they often don't let your intended customers access the website but doesn't really stop anyone that the website owners wanted to keep away.
< 1772856391 578558 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as someone who occasionally wants to bulk download from websites, it hurts me
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< 1772881985 326527 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1772888207 859122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177435&oldid=177434 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (+6034) 10Added 99 Bottles of bear program
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> 1772888883 966175 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177438&oldid=177435 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (-26) 10Added Turing Machine Status to reflect recent release
> 1772889704 551927 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177439&oldid=177438 5* 03Corbin 5* (+29) 10Tagging as generated.
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< 1772895208 552487 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wow, rude.
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< 1772896598 751377 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that this is a standard case of somebody using a bot (Claude, I think) and then trying to fix it up later. The first version of their GH README gives it away.
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< 1772896989 59797 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :LOL why does every commit to README.md add a new line at the end.
> 1772897102 228976 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ivory14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177447&oldid=177446 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (-5) 10
< 1772897127 295555 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/widuruwana/ivory/issues/1 I've found that in these cases a nice thing to do is write up a one-paragraph issue and see whether I get a slop reply.
< 1772897236 116911 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The standard approach for the first issue is to check timers before and after sleeping, to see how long we *actually* slept, and then compute a moving average sleep time which gives an offset. For the second issue, check timers after and before sleeping instead.)
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> 1772899519 808860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177450&oldid=177449 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (+1435) 10/* Technical clarification on v1.1.0 and Authorship */ new section
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> 1772899961 708598 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177452 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+6251) 10Copying contents of GitHub Wiki Page to Esolangs. (version 0.7a0)
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> 1772900341 271174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177454&oldid=177452 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (-14) 10remove h1 header + shorten source + formatting
< 1772900380 16774 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks Aadenboy
> 1772900593 469854 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177455&oldid=177447 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+0) 10fix category
> 1772900658 387302 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177456&oldid=177454 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+11) 10/* Command Groups */ fixing table
> 1772900701 68422 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177457&oldid=177451 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+184) 10revert removal of [[User:Corbin]]'s message
> 1772900780 926174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177458&oldid=177456 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+5) 10/* Full Lines */ fixing table
> 1772900835 851458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177459&oldid=177458 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+0) 10vbar for clarity
> 1772900846 817093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177460&oldid=177459 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+0) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/177459|177459]] by [[Special:Contributions/Aadenboy|Aadenboy]] ([[User talk:Aadenboy|talk]])
> 1772901253 921964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177461&oldid=177460 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+30) 10/* Initial Letters Tables */ Clarifying something.
> 1772901342 240747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177462&oldid=177461 5* 03Lykaina 5* (-28) 10/* Command Groups and Full Line Commands */ Fixing section
< 1772901464 851649 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Indeed. Very thoughtful of them.
< 1772901976 138506 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Timers reminds me of when I first used libcurl's async interface, called curl_multi, that lets you integrate the library into any event loop of your choice. The library tells you which file descriptors it wants to wait on for reading or writing, and also a duration for when its next timeout is. The problem is, when I woke the library up from the event loop exactly when it asked, the library often 
< 1772901982 142896 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :decided that I called it back too early and there's nothing to handle yet and I should wait another 0 milliseconds. This resulted in stupid busy loops that lasted for about a millisecond each time. 
> 1772902010 86413 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177463&oldid=177457 5* 03Corbin 5* (+974) 10/* Technical clarification on v1.1.0 and Authorship */ No worries!
< 1772902051 230646 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Wow, that's amazing. I wonder what the right solution should be.
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< 1772902965 39324 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION really hopes that Afth64 is actually Turing-Complete.

< 1772903006 440829 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :the mechanism that made Afth Turing-Complete is still there
> 1772903029 43605 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177465&oldid=177463 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (+331) 10Replied to Mr. Corbin
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> 1772903153 948416 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Ivory14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177467&oldid=177466 5* 03Widuruwana 5* (-184) 10Removing AI tag per discussion and consensus with Mr. Corbin on the Talk page.
< 1772903457 217598 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: in the short term, just add 1 millisecond to the timeout that curl_multi reports. 
< 1772903573 147854 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ...Yeah, me too.
< 1772905166 970276 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :attempting to port the RPNCALC example from Afth to Afth64
> 1772905727 967704 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smolder14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177468&oldid=175581 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (-1) 10User:Aadenbpoy
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> 1772909976 934270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:PizzaScript14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177473 5* 03Jay 5* (+132) 10Created page with "= '''Welcome to Talk!''' = === Where you can post questions and I will try to answer them. === 
 You are free to edit this page."
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< 1772912020 42113 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION is trying to determine how to define methods in a future version of Afth64

< 1772912067 253284 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Good Night, cu *
< 1772912068 148412 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :😴
< 1772912267 111764 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :that is, while still being compatible with Afth64 0.7, the current version.
< 1772912448 573560 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the longer term solution is to integrate more tightly with an event loop in such a way that instead of curl_multi querying the OS for which handle is readable/writable and the current time, it trusts what the event loop reports it, and if the event loop tells it that the timeout occurred then it tursts that. but libcurl wants to be easy to use with not much code from the user, which is why they 
< 1772912454 578869 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't do that.
< 1772912498 392910 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but since they only give you a timeout at millisecond precision, calling them one more millisecond late is fine. libcurl only uses these timers for timeouts that don't need to be precise.
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< 1772913191 769103 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think i can use a macro-like format to do it.
< 1772913269 120623 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: That makes sense. This turns out to also matter for CPU-bound cooperative scheduling, not just for sockets.
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< 1772914559 288293 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :The word S1OUT with definition _2IOUISn_2I_1LISnH._2-I_1LISn would output everything in stack 1 to stdout, but only if I modify the code to be able to handle the formatting code 'n', meaning newline.
< 1772914742 411948 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :no...that would mess up the line order for jumps
< 1772915242 351548 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :{_2IOUIS}\n{_2I_1LIS}\n{H._2-I_1LIS}
< 1772915276 516736 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, thinking out loud
< 1772915379 988198 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries, it's allowed.
> 1772915467 187596 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox/Kiosk14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177475 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+426) 10Created page with "'''Kiosk''' is an esoteric programming language based on Market kiosks, created by [[User:Ractangle]]  ==Syntax== All Kiosk programs start with opening a kiosk (and also the location but it's optional):  A kiosk gets created, called "''name''" whic
< 1772917170 260605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1772917340 520222 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course, give a word alternate definitions.
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< 1772925918 590216 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 JOIN #esolangs * :11,8aadenboy — it's pronounced [ˈejˌdɛnb�
< 1772925976 633757 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Lykaina: no problem!
< 1772926051 174951 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm I should continue regularly connecting to here
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< 1772928179 685248 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I have decided that analog sticks are actually a fairly terrible input method
< 1772928186 420337 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(after a lot of experimentation with an actual game controller)
< 1772928191 537835 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the d-pad and face buttons are promising
< 1772928460 294488 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about the shoulder buttons?
< 1772928481 209552 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably modifier keys
< 1772928579 474186 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shoulder and bumper buttons*
< 1772929225 12564 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're a bit like the shift keys on keyboards
< 1772929232 907412 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can use them but they're awkward to press at the same time as keys near them
< 1772929269 772482 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's possible but slows you down a bit – professional typists used to be taught to always use the shift key on the hand opposite the one they were pressing the key they were shifting with)
< 1772929281 154901 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :really? I haven't encountered that issue
< 1772929297 853973 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably because I always use my left pinky for left shift
< 1772929388 615128 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also only really use your thumbs to press the d-pad and face buttons so those ones would be left to your index and middle fingers
< 1772929395 248855 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty easy to press at the same time
< 1772929406 93757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I don't think that applies to the controller, at least the way I imagine you're using it. for keyboard, you have to move your hand position to reach the shift keys with your 5th finger because they're in an awkward position, and that affects the fingers on the same hand. but on a controller, your 1st or 2nd fingers are pressing the shoulder/trigger/bumper buttons, and I think that doesn't 
< 1772929412 99647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :influence much how you're handling the d-pad and face buttons with your thumbs.
< 1772929435 793891 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: exactly
< 1772929459 840230 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I actually found it affected me more on a controller – I normally use the little finger on my same hand for pressing shift, but on the controller I was having problems pressing the right bumper and right face buttons at the same time
< 1772929463 362772 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the problem is that there are too few combinations. only like 4*5*4 because I assume two shoulder buttons can be in 4 combinations, d-pad can be neutral or one of four directions, and while holding these you press one of the four face buttons.
< 1772929493 63918 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can press the diagonals reliably on a d-pad, and can on most designs press two adjacent face buttons reliably as well
< 1772929512 616437 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, there will be a glitch on the way to the diagonal where it looks orthogonal, and your program needs to take that into account
< 1772929528 986349 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, that might give you enough combinations then
< 1772929557 838070 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I found two systems that were usable, the second one is actually fairly fast even with only an hour or so of practice
< 1772929561 439632 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm still refining it
< 1772929575 946078 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need to work out how much of the frequency of "g" in English is from "ing" and how much is other uses
< 1772929616 656793 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are independent button presses (only d-pad/only one face button) counted as a keystroke?
< 1772929646 199327 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or reserved for other uses
< 1772929694 633819 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :based on my experimentation, I think you want to use independent presses as much as possible
< 1772929702 843828 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they might be slightly slower than pairs but they have much lower cognitive load
< 1772929756 251290 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's see, my word frequency data has 9606573871 "ing", 32721311168 "g", so about one third of "g"s come from "ing"
> 1772929798 132513 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177477&oldid=177431 5* 03InLuaIKnow 5* (+579) 10
< 1772929825 575835 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting
> 1772929855 567356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177478&oldid=177453 5* 03InLuaIKnow 5* (+10) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
< 1772930055 972306 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*g\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772930057 766849 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :get got gotten go gone knowingly canning good goodness liking right rightful rightfully rightly rightness seeing thinking thought give gave given giving something telling tellingly thing through wrought again against although though anything begin began begun big bring brought caring change changed changing during government great greatly greatness group high highly highness homing including interesting interestingly large largely lasting long longish lovi
< 1772930217 474720 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/^\w*g\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772930218 715175 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :get go good right give something thing through again against although anything begin big bring change during government great group high large long might night nothing program age ago along among college design enough everything fight figure game general girl grow guy light morning sign strong suggest together wrong young according agency agree argue average building campaign challenge charge congress daughter degree dog drug eight energy evening feeling f
> 1772930258 536714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Righght14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177479&oldid=177362 5* 03Cool Bungle 5* (+1) 10
< 1772930607 386307 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: is that a list of the most common words that contain "g"?
< 1772930622 57004 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no, "although" doesn't
< 1772930631 205474 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yes it does
< 1772930633 142641 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just a hidden one
< 1772930676 500148 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the existence of the "gh" digraph was already an obstacle for me earlier, by throwing off phonetics-based reasoning about which letter combinations were likely
< 1772930949 157276 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes
< 1772930971 664381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : `perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*k\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772930975 642342 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*k\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772930976 671108 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :know knew knowingly known like liking look make take taken took think thinking back lifelike okay OK talk work works ask childlike keep kept thank thankful thankfully thankless thanks week weeks black blackness book booked bookish break broke broken businesslike kid kidding kill killed kind kindly market marketing pick quick quickly quickness speak spoke spoken walk walking warlike attack bank banking block blocked check checked checking dark darkly darkne
< 1772930983 351223 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry for misquoting you
< 1772931046 239308 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I forgot about leading "kn", it didn't come up in the words I was testing on
< 1772931059 119100 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*q[^u]\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772931060 859054 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Iraqi IQ) HQ)
< 1772931071 654190 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :parenthesis?
< 1772931117 695865 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think there are many words starting "nk", I could use that as an alternative
< 1772931161 937713 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :aadenboy: https://wordlist.aspell.net/12dicts-readme/#223frq search for "parenthisized"
< 1772931202 698612 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they don't follow the normal methodology of how Alan created this list
< 1772931242 993962 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :gotcha
< 1772931278 603040 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I don't understand how the regex matches the parenthesis part or how it gets printed otherwise
< 1772931293 406930 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, [^u]
< 1772931307 943929 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm
< 1772931358 299150 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*q[^u]*\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772931359 371282 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :question quick quickly quickness quite require required cheque quality quiet quietly quietness consequence equal equally equipment frequent frequently quarter request requested square squared squarely technique unique uniquely uniqueness acquire acquired adequate adequately equivalent frequency inquiry enquiry Iraqi) \  qualify qualified qualifying queen quit quote quoted requirement sequence sequencing squeeze squeezing subsequent subsequently acquisition
< 1772931367 959211 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1772931386 74416 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not what I wanted to do
< 1772931398 353705 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh
< 1772931445 720817 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :try /\w*q(?!u)\w*/ig
< 1772931508 454113 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w*q(?!u)\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772931510 503474 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Iraqi IQ HQ
< 1772931518 273340 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :figured same results
< 1772931521 894128 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :got rid of the parentheses though
< 1772931549 192333 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :silly english orthography rules
< 1772931738 608261 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh oh, "pocketknife" (all other "kn" words I've found have it at the start or after [csnlraeiouy])
< 1772931768 586111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and "slipknot"/"topknot" have it after a "p"
> 1772931771 418343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177480&oldid=177477 5* 03InLuaIKnow 5* (+28) 10
< 1772931787 874142 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all compounds!
< 1772931814 829194 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :looks like neither "tnk" nor "pnk" are in any word in my word list, so I can just allow those to be used to write "tkn"/"pkn"
< 1772931835 658420 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :aadenboy: most rare letter combinations only appear in the middle of compound words
< 1772931875 539900 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that makes sense
< 1772931900 350617 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what causes all these problem is that I'm working on a system where the only way to type certain combinations is to insert an extra letter and then backspace over it
< 1772931912 503259 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and trying to ensure that those combinations never come up in actual words
< 1772931949 599392 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :English spelling and pronunciation is, while not regular, regular enough that you can mostly prove combinations impossible based on things like voicing
< 1772931971 988959 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but! normally the voiced version of a voiceable letter is rare than the unvoiced version
< 1772931992 653850 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is true for most letters but "k" is much rarer than "g", even if you add a special case for "-ing" to remove those "g" from the frequencies
< 1772932044 411776 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I have been experimenting with swapping "k" and "g" for ease of typing, but that allows some untypeable combinations to sneak through and thus I need special cases for them
< 1772932213 428655 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the system I'm working on any letter can appear after [aeiouylr] so those aren't problematic, any letter can appear before a vowel, and "cg", "sg", "mk" basically never appear before consonants so they can be used for "ck", "sk", "nk" respectively
< 1772932250 966370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/q/79223/ lists a bunch of letter combinations that appear as infix in only one english word, such as "rsd" which only occurs in "thursday"
< 1772932258 802401 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but words like "knickknack" and "pocketknife" break the typing rules
< 1772932268 253495 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ooh, interesting, I'll see how many fit my rules
< 1772932272 232047 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which I think suggests that you'll run into a lot of such problmes
< 1772932322 32332 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's see how many would be problematic
< 1772932412 261840 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"ekb" would be problematic if followed by another consonant (except l or r); everything else is typable regardless of context
< 1772932486 58841 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, "hq" couldn't be typed if not followed by "u", but I'm kind-of assuming there's a u there :-D
< 1772932537 759845 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the other hand, I once searched Irregular Webcomics for rare letter pairs at the *start* of words, as a way to find typos. the most common false positives were words like "fhtangn" that appear related to Cthulhu. I also learned that "aj" starts only one english word, "ajar", but there are basically no other letter pairs that start only one word. in theory there's "bdellium" but that's a word I only 
< 1772932543 762850 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :encounter when people talk about strange words.
< 1772932618 703938 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TAOCP talks about starting letter pairs in english language by the way, in volume 3 
< 1772932652 732678 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :believe it or not "fhtangn" doesn't break any of my rules about which letters can appear next to which
< 1772932710 308736 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the basic idea I have is to assign 16 of the most common letters to the 16 possible presses of one thumb (orthogonals and diagonals of the thumbs on each hand)
< 1772932733 410515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then for the other 8, you keep holding the letter you pressed with one hand while you press the next letter with the other
< 1772932776 413732 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wasn't just "fhtangn", that's just the most common of those words
< 1772932780 23432 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that swaps the consonant out for a rarer version, so it works if the rare consonant is either preceded or followed by a vowel (l and r are vowels)
< 1772932816 653419 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to clarify, l and r aren't *always* vowels in English, but they're vowels often enough that I put them on the vowels thumb to avoid conflicts (along with y)
< 1772932833 979567 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I get r, but l?
< 1772932862 961111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"dazzle" is a good example
< 1772932889 695243 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm
< 1772932896 127409 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can't pronounce that word without holding the "l" vowel-style, because the "e" is silent
< 1772932931 437709 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course if you want this for programming then the user will often type things that aren't english words
< 1772932934 692325 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w+l\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772932935 959129 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :knowingly all could justly rightful rightfully rightly timeless well wellness will willful willfully would also call called evenly firstly lifeless lifelike little manliness manly needless needlessly only overly people real really should still stillness talk tell telling tellingly told useful usefully usefulness useless although always badly believe careful carefully careless carelessly carelessness child childish childless childlike children close closed 
< 1772932968 614669 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't believe "knowingly" is the most common word containing an "l" not at the start, maybe it's in a comment
< 1772932982 883248 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, I think programming will mostly be using intellisense-style autocomplete
< 1772932993 162830 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this would only be necessary for comments and newly introduced variable names
< 1772933034 34145 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3frq.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w+[^aeiou]e?l\w*/gi){ print "$& " }}
< 1772933035 291095 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :knowingly all justly rightfully rightly timeless well wellness will willful willfully call called evenly firstly lifeless lifelike little manliness manly needless needlessly only overly people really still stillness tell telling tellingly usefully useless badly carefully careless carelessly carelessness childless childlike closely differently early endless endlessly faceless fatherless fatherly friendliness friendly greatly headless helpfully helpless help
< 1772933037 662461 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: no, this is a lemmatized word list, so "knowingly" appears under the heading of "know", and "know" is common
< 1772933149 432821 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, out of those words, "all", "could", "people", "should", "talk", "told", "although", "always", "child", "childless", "childlike" are using "l" in a vowel-like way
< 1772933164 233432 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interestingly, "children" isn't
< 1772933181 893544 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that changes the pronounciation of the first "i" compared to "child"/"childless"/"childlike"
< 1772933187 132853 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for keyboard testing you probably want 12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3lem.txt instead to check if the most frequent words work
< 1772933198 676037 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because that lists all the plurals and inflections
< 1772933200 866614 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I already have a word frequency list on my computer
< 1772933216 228756 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not lemmatized or even case-quotiented
< 1772933230 574519 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eopen$R,"/hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Lemmatized/2+2+3lem.txt"; while(<$R>){while(/\w+(?){while(/\w+(?){while(/\w+(?){while(/\w+(? 1772947285 349470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177481&oldid=177366 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+114) 10
> 1772947332 803409 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177482&oldid=177481 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10
> 1772947365 74345 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177483&oldid=177482 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+15) 10
> 1772947407 829677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ima gte. Ima dana14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177484 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+2164) 10Created page with "'''Ima gte. Ima dana''' is a [[Joke language list|Joke language]] made by [[User:BODOKE2801e]], it just doesn't make sense  ==Syntax==  {| class="wikitable" |+ |- ! Syntax !! Action |- | Say "Hello" to [x]! || Creates new variable x |- | BEGONE [x]!!!! || 
> 1772947457 685568 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ima gte. Ima dana14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177485&oldid=177484 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+0) 10
< 1772948694 617526 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1772949770 893940 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :goodnight
< 1772949774 534452 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 QUIT :Quit: goodbye for now! back another day
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< 1772955235 791503 :dbohdan!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan JOIN #esolangs dbohdan :ZNC - https://znc.in
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> 1772958239 798801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Dragoneater6714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177489&oldid=177470 5* 03Dragoneater67mobile 5* (+50) 10
< 1772960267 978386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a realization about the syntax of conditionals in Columnar. So previously I had the idea that the question mark and exclamation mark should be operands on their own that take an integer input from their column and make the following operator run conditionally only if that input is nonzero or zero respectively. But no, the question mark and exclamation mark shouldn't be infections, they should be 
< 1772960273 988952 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :prefixes for other infections. If you put a question mark before one of the infection marks ~ ` ' ^ - then that should turn that from a normal input operand into a condition input, and similarly an exclamation mark to a negated condition. And if you put the question mark or exclamation mark directly before the operator, that should mean that it's conditional on the implicit input from the column where 
< 1772960279 996968 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that operator is (in which case that column can't also be a normal input to the operator). 
< 1772960283 1136 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is definitely more verbose, but I think more suitable for the language.
< 1772960335 469088 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :These conditionals can then be used on a goto operator (which I think will be spelled as a left parenthesis) for ordinary flow control, or on any normal function call. 
< 1772960432 439925 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also if you put them before a dot or comma, which are inflections for output operands, then a conditional doesn't make sense, so that case can be overloaded for some other meaning in the future if necessary, although I already have other prefix/suffix characters that I can use that way.
< 1772960916 710659 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi
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> 1772975957 975732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dotfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177493&oldid=137536 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Execution */
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> 1772977104 594719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NS!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177494&oldid=153900 5* 03Zopium 5* (+85) 10
> 1772980671 617384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Silicon dioxide in a polypropylene box/14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177495 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+646) 10Created page with "Some useless code written when going crazy  = C++ = 
 int main() {     return 0; } 
 
 int main() {     main(); } 
 
 int main() {     cout; } 
 
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< 1772988925 875294 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina JOIN #esolangs Lykaina :Lykaina Wolfe
> 1772989262 968431 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177496&oldid=177469 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+17) 10Adding notice that page describes a certain version of the code (v0.7). Need to update page to current version (v0.8.1).
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> 1772991429 752571 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177499&oldid=177496 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+469) 10/* Words */ Adding info on multiple definition words.
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< 1772994203 921709 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :good morning!
> 1772994492 823919 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ima gte. Ima dana14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177501&oldid=177485 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+355) 10/* Complex */
< 1772994947 325842 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :G'Night
< 1772995081 89184 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.107.12 PRIVMSG #esolangs :goodnight APic
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< 1772997059 548567 :Lykaina!~lykaina@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi sgeo
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> 1772998894 39801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afth6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177503&oldid=177502 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+0) 10/* Dictionary Code */ Giving word JUMP a clearer equivalent definition.
> 1772999153 873159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Voiced dental fricative14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177504&oldid=98194 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+770) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation on GitHub, changed the Unimplemented page category tag to Implemented, and improved the grammar and formatting.
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< 1773021455 954114 :amby!~ambylastn@host-78-151-24-174.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
> 1773021800 304250 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177508&oldid=177480 5* 03InLuaIKnow 5* (+1289) 10
> 1773022717 443912 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177509&oldid=177508 5* 03InLuaIKnow 5* (+407) 10/* Lua (made by User:InLuaIKnow) */
> 1773024348 542042 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tetrahedron14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=177510 5* 03Cleverxia 5* (+1122) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} '''Tetrahedron''', with [[hexagony]] as its inspiration, is a [[fungeoid]] created by [[user:cleverxia]] that operates on two infinite tetrahedrons: code and data. ==Program flow== first, the program is loaded into "program tetrahedron" from top to bottom,
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> 1773025294 853710 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ima gte. Ima dana14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177512&oldid=177507 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+301) 10/* Syntax */
> 1773025890 556974 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ima gte. Ima dana14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=177513&oldid=177512 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+652) 10/* Examples */
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