< 1775177085 390897 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775177097 949110 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1775177097 949334 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1775177464 307170 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775177645 324943 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1775177684 48271 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :MPCitH is when you read a book < 1775180395 147244 :somefan!~somefan@208.58.192.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775181645 658921 :somefan!~somefan@208.58.192.69 JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1775183073 510974 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178895&oldid=178415 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+32) 10/* Syntax */ > 1775184331 471075 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178896&oldid=178895 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-436) 10/* statistics_and_file */ > 1775184353 226260 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yoyolin0409/STL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178897&oldid=177235 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+422) 10 > 1775184434 692281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178898&oldid=178896 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+179) 10/* statistics_and_file */ > 1775184546 774868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178899&oldid=178898 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+17) 10/* string */ > 1775184724 407206 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178900&oldid=178899 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+237) 10/* string */ > 1775184743 876416 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178901&oldid=178900 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+5) 10/* string */ > 1775184760 337039 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178902&oldid=178901 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+2) 10/* string */ > 1775184769 316888 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178903&oldid=178902 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+1) 10/* string */ > 1775185381 863446 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178904&oldid=178903 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+152) 10/* lambda */ > 1775185429 176331 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178905&oldid=178904 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+13) 10/* lambda */ > 1775185935 409106 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178906&oldid=178905 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-5) 10/* Turing completeness proof using brainfuck */ < 1775186245 182865 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1775186293 154894 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) > 1775186584 477466 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178907&oldid=178906 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+150) 10/* Syntax */ < 1775187219 119736 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775187373 179944 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) > 1775187766 557513 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BODOKE2801e14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178908&oldid=175168 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+119) 10 > 1775187852 495642 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178909&oldid=178907 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+816) 10 < 1775187885 468491 :moony3!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775187965 111901 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775187965 454768 :moony3!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moony > 1775187975 583904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178910&oldid=178909 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+1) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775188287 205646 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178911&oldid=178910 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+74) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ < 1775188290 283088 :chloetax!~chloe@user/chloetax QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1775188401 775393 :chloetax!~chloe@user/chloetax JOIN #esolangs chloetax :chloe > 1775188489 240924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178912&oldid=178911 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+19) 10/* Preprocessors */ > 1775188721 533338 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178913&oldid=178912 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-906) 10/* statistics_and_file */ > 1775188743 920218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178914&oldid=178913 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-28) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775189040 865209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178915&oldid=178914 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-3) 10/* statistics */ < 1775189185 407216 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775189186 54231 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1775189493 138258 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :MPCitH is when you read a book < 1775189754 135968 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1775190048 138655 :moony5!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775190056 642375 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775190056 679227 :moony5!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moony > 1775190876 542008 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178916&oldid=178915 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+44) 10/* string */ > 1775191015 88467 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178917&oldid=178916 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+103) 10 > 1775191169 989681 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178918&oldid=178917 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+19) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ < 1775191269 119215 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775191269 165862 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775191269 165944 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775192372 218316 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775192374 102169 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1775192707 103046 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :MPCitH is when you read a book < 1775193308 349387 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775193327 207233 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775193335 402399 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775193388 853156 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775194049 241254 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :MPCitH is when you read a book < 1775194068 648761 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1775194353 666611 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1775194359 223213 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1775194377 523531 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1775194422 647572 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1775194634 625687 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :MPCitH is when you read a book < 1775194682 141535 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( > 1775194828 649464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mtcm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178919&oldid=178873 5* 03BODOKE2801e 5* (+1727) 10 > 1775200186 984881 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kind n' Single14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178920&oldid=166784 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+24) 10/* System */ > 1775200474 693031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kind n' Single14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178921&oldid=178920 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+64) 10/* System */ < 1775202405 238285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1775202516 179158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kind n' Single14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178922&oldid=178921 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+151) 10/* System */ > 1775203423 416671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Div14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=178923 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+1806) 10Created page with "'''Div''', named after divided and the divine comedy, is an Esoteric Programming Language created by [[User:Yayimhere]], based mainly on string prefixes, and [[An Odd Rewriting System]], specifically in the concept of "Definitions". == Syntax == A program is in > 1775203512 107668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178924&oldid=178918 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+6) 10/* Command Table */ > 1775203543 138962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178925&oldid=178924 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-104) 10/* Note */ > 1775203683 431605 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178926&oldid=178925 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-81) 10/* Examples */ > 1775203847 607983 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178927&oldid=178926 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-10) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775203879 266049 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178928&oldid=178927 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-1) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775204206 37259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178929&oldid=178928 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+61) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775204282 28651 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178930&oldid=178929 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+22) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775204397 645014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178931&oldid=178930 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+69) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775204496 23868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178932&oldid=178931 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-402) 10/* Turing completeness proof using brainfuck */ > 1775204512 159297 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178933&oldid=178932 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (-5) 10/* Real brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775204559 708926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178934&oldid=178933 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+8) 10/* OOP examples */ > 1775205034 251159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178935&oldid=178934 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+141) 10/* brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775205128 493078 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178936&oldid=178935 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+46) 10/* brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775205198 809707 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178937&oldid=178936 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+14) 10/* Command Table */ > 1775205265 329439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178938&oldid=178937 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+17) 10/* brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775205301 765082 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178939&oldid=178938 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+0) 10/* brainfuck interpreter */ > 1775207017 239855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Div14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178940&oldid=178923 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+127) 10 < 1775208853 391785 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: there's also the flag semaphore code, which is designed to be signaled by an unaided human with a flag held in each hand. you can hold each flag in any of eight directions, though which flag is which doesn't matter, so there are only 36 possible signals. some people already know this one, so for them it might work as an input method on two d-pads on a controller if you can relyably input the < 1775208859 401640 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :eight directions. > 1775210537 657821 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07File:SHSM down arrow for guide signs.png14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178941&oldid=174453 5* 03OfficialWatchOS7Alt 5* (-35) 10Blanked the page > 1775210652 272783 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mtcm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178942&oldid=178919 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+9) 10stille a stub, doesnt really describe its memory or how the state changing works. > 1775211110 98128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Emojifunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178943&oldid=142226 5* 03OfficialWatchOS7Alt 5* (+8) 10 > 1775211535 696277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lorem Ipsum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178944&oldid=175833 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+4) 10/* Full width commands */ < 1775212879 824465 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1775213427 166423 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178945&oldid=71651 5* 03OfficialWatchOS7Alt 5* (+590) 10/* TMMLPTEALPAITANFNFAL */ new section > 1775213468 573097 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Septem Lingua14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178946&oldid=178939 5* 03Yoyolin0409 5* (+16) 10/* Preprocessors */ < 1775214062 622929 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Yayimhere < 1775214066 994020 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi! < 1775214078 93293 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b PRIVMSG #esolangs :how are you all doing < 1775214291 332487 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1775214295 645202 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm a bit tired, as usual, but otherwise OK < 1775214302 831406 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice. < 1775214309 592774 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also a bit distracted, there's lots of programming I need to do but I'm having trouble actually making my mind up to do it < 1775214404 410826 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b PRIVMSG #esolangs :same, I have an interpreter to complete but > 1775216734 398753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lorem Ipsum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178947&oldid=178944 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+39) 10/* Demonstration */ < 1775217437 622437 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:f4f5:82df:9fc3:7b5b QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1775219048 247526 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hah! Was testing the wiki question-answerer after some code changes with my default test question ("Who invented Befunge?"), and somehow the MediaWiki search for "Befunge creator" (extracted search term) returned `Euclid`, `Dotlang` and `HQ9funge` as the best matches for that question. < 1775219053 682552 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So the model dutifully used those as context and proclaimed: "Befunge was created by User:Andrew3335. The article states that Dotlang was “partially derivative of befunge,” indicating Andrew3335 was also the creator of Befunge." < 1775219087 435746 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's... not exactly how it works. But it definitely needs a better search (which might be a valuable thing to have in its own right anyway). < 1775219099 210423 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(On a later attempt it did switch the search query to "Befunge inventor", which does get `Funge-98` as the only search result, which makes it give the correct answer.) < 1775219158 727944 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1775219300 728512 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lorem Ipsum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178948&oldid=178947 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+377) 10/* Examples */ > 1775220656 389734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dangermouse14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=178949 5* 03OfficialWatchOS7Alt 5* (+30) 10Redirected page to [[David Morgan-Mar]] < 1775220656 646482 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1775221377 157564 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1775221878 340803 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1775222365 203618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :MediaWiki search works best when you're searching for a single noun, I think (rather than multiple nouns that would have to appear on the same page) < 1775222384 948291 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the search term for that should just be "Befunge", not "Befunge creator" < 1775222547 672623 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to prompt the search term extraction to prefer single nouns, but it decided to search for "Mark Russinengo" instead. :) < 1775222597 368760 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And of course it didn't find any results, so it had to answer without wiki context, and produced: "Befunge was invented by Stefan Gustav Adolf Johannesson in 1993." < 1775222603 992453 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Interesting that it got the year right.) < 1775222659 822249 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, the famous mean inventor name < 1775222668 789164 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a bizarre level of AI decision-making < 1775222753 414646 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zero search engine results for Mark Russinengo if you insist on the spelling of the surname, that's impressive < 1775222788 907704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it does look like a plausible name, so it must be real. < 1775222804 658180 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You just have to BELIEVE. < 1775222913 989859 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :LLM output is after all optimised for looking plausible < 1775222999 569336 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would not have used the word "decision making" though I suppose it does not, technically, imply any sort of careful deliberation. < 1775223007 705752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or term, whatever < 1775223170 13540 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is still making decisions, it just isn't making them very well < 1775223204 253798 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you think about it, all an LLM does is decide which token comes next < 1775223391 443068 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`le/rn token anxiety/Tokens participating in a Markov chain often get nervous while waiting for their turn to shine. This is called token anxiety. < 1775223393 863027 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usage: `le/[/]rn // < 1775223404 244223 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`le/rn token anxiety//Tokens participating in a Markov chain often get nervous while waiting for their turn to shine. This is called token anxiety. < 1775223408 97167 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learned 'token anxiety': Tokens participating in a Markov chain often get nervous while waiting for their turn to shine. This is called token anxiety. < 1775223666 775215 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Next two attempts: search for Andrew S. Smith, invented by Jürg Steiner; search for Steve Russell, invented by Daniel Grünfeld. < 1775223684 854550 :dragoneater67!~dragoneat@user/dragoneater67 JOIN #esolangs dragoneater67 :dragoneater67 < 1775223756 814251 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And search for Whittington, invented by Jarko Määttänen.) < 1775223803 633364 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have been planning to try out one of those text-embedding cosine-distance semantic search approaches, though I'm a little doubtful as to how well that'll work on esolang content either. < 1775224254 100285 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I bet it's guessing at the answer and using that as a search term < 1775224260 248335 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rather than trying to pick a search term from the question < 1775224301 99300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :XZ problem (where, instead of asking Y, you jump straight to the conclusion, Z) < 1775224402 759610 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just realized while it was a _little_ more silly than even I would have expected. < 1775224438 42849 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Previously I was using a lower-level library to run inference, and so my prompts included the markers the Gemma instruction-tuned variant uses to indicate the turns and roles (user, model). < 1775224475 293101 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I switched to a different thing to run it on the GPU, which handles the prompting syntax for me, so it had those all doubled. < 1775224558 273222 :amby!~ambylastn@host-81-178-153-130.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1775224695 415389 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I thought an XZ problem was when you have collaborators gaslighting you into accepting suspicious opaque binaries into the project's test data *ducks* < 1775224697 319644 :fizzie!~irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :On the other hand, now that it does correctly land on the search query "Befunge", it gets confused by the rather long article about Befunge instead. < 1775224742 179233 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: that's good too < 1775224849 323528 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: it was more than just collaborators, the attacker actually maintained xz in a nonmalicious way for about 2 years in order to build up trust < 1775224862 802252 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, that is true < 1775224893 949590 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just wanted to compress it into a short line to make the reference obvious enough :p > 1775225485 524337 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codesh ()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178950&oldid=178851 5* 03StavWasPlayZ 5* (-18) 10Add compiler implementation > 1775225586 162098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codesh ()14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178951&oldid=178950 5* 03StavWasPlayZ 5* (+1) 10 < 1775227107 748295 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1775227463 49655 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1775229581 870698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spore14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178952&oldid=178874 5* 03Timm 5* (+13) 10 < 1775230521 25928 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Note that LLMs learn *all* memetic associations, including ones which we might normally think of as contrived word games. For example, it's quite reasonable to ask "Who was the president of USA in 1990s?" -> RAG gives concepts close to "USA", "president", "1990s" like "Al Gore" -> model assigns high probability to "Bill Clinton". < 1775230988 912320 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1775232170 992815 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`w < 1775232174 479929 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​fire//Fire, fire, everywhere, nor any drop to drink. < 1775232286 202049 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1775232325 158673 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? al gore < 1775232328 545463 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Al Gore invented the algorithm. < 1775235866 863838 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1775236402 858852 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheZwierz 5* 10New user account > 1775236791 202375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178953&oldid=178864 5* 03TheZwierz 5* (+196) 10/* Introductions */ < 1775236873 247279 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1775238227 50790 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheLeviathan 5* 10New user account > 1775239823 381083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178954&oldid=174843 5* 03SuperSMG5 5* (+557) 10i added another idea < 1775241919 153003 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775242018 144963 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1775242639 168028 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775242718 169894 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas > 1775243315 28688 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=178955&oldid=178954 5* 03Yayimhere2(school) 5* (+218) 10/* General Ideas */ < 1775243323 151528 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775244655 214914 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775245131 627998 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Yayimhere < 1775245141 554725 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi(again? I cant remember) < 1775245192 954251 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how are you all doing at this time < 1775245194 749209 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Howdy. < 1775245202 600150 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ho korvo! < 1775245205 575238 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*hi < 1775245327 916000 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :recently I had an idea of a language that when given itself as input in Stdin, its returns itself, however for any other input it doesn't. it isn't that interesting on its own I guess, but I think something interesting could be made from it, with some secondary idea attached to it < 1775245460 279704 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was thinking of making it a Crab's Jukebox style language, where the program reads its program as if it was the record < 1775245586 82142 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yayimhere: I saw that on the list of ideas < 1775245608 892586 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in korvo-language that would be "each function definable in the language is its own only fixed point" < 1775245623 490452 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea, I know < 1775245643 942284 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also surprising that you saw it so quick < 1775245650 848888 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I shouldn't be that surprised though < 1775245674 673429 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it feels like the sort of problem where either it's impossible, or there's some trick to make it possible but that isn't very interesting (along the lines of languages which are quine-free onyl because the print statement doesn't work if it would output something that matches the source code) < 1775245684 919613 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm, through some sort of structure? Or just as an axiom? < 1775245708 123434 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tend to look at your (Yayimhere's) edits faster than other people's because they're more likely to be interesting < 1775245731 672622 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh huh < 1775245739 34308 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i assume that is a compliment right? < 1775245748 552790 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in your case yes < 1775245753 493327 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks! < 1775245755 319225 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, exactly. Or flip it. You could always have each function store some sort of copy of itself, and the function detects that copy; otherwise, all functions have to *not* have fixed points. That's easier than it sounds. < 1775245769 325917 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some edits are likely to need admin attention and those I also look at more quickly, but that's less of a positive < 1775245775 118078 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1775245812 967859 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: i was thinking of making the programs be some sort text reader that skips certain parts of text, or re-read some, based on some sort of syntax defined in the program < 1775245822 200497 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then this would be restricted in such a way that < 1775245829 278498 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has the wanted property < 1775245882 57671 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I'm thinking along the lines of "language which always maps 0 to 0" and then you xor the input and output with the source code < 1775245893 974681 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh < 1775245926 910898 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'll go sit with some paper tomorrow to make it a little easier to think about(which is a thing ive begun doing) < 1775245972 398967 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I am certainly interested in peoples solutions < 1775245983 522212 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now I'm thinking about https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/175365/transformers-in-disguise-cops-thread which is sort-of related (it's a series of challenges along the lines of "a program that was given itself as input outputted string X, given any other input it would output something else, find the program" under a size limit to try to ensure that there's only one solution) < 1775246005 610833 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, that is creetinaly reelated < 1775246008 85799 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*related < 1775246018 452981 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ugh, but it has a lot more adverts than it used to, I'd recommend using an ad blocker < 1775246045 171989 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1775246050 859517 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dont actually know if safari has such things as extentions(and thereby Ad blockers) < 1775246095 181033 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775246136 9402 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ive gotten used to just ignore ads at this point < 1775246218 305579 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1775246485 549467 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill go read that thread later, thanks for showing it to me < 1775247512 378325 :b_jonas!~x@catv-80-98-84-202.catv.fixed.one.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :b_jonas < 1775248292 809489 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1775248989 690239 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some ads can be avoided by disabling JavaScripts, and by some other stuff, so a specialized ad blocker is not necessarily needed < 1775249221 638424 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1775249225 928619 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also hello! < 1775249407 148555 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1775249429 471294 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-46-238.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1775249617 975542 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1775250896 896149 :Yayimhere!~Yayimhere@2a02:aa7:4106:29df:e1ce:6e3d:131b:e771 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1775254373 808208 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1775254472 928609 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 QUIT :Quit: bye bye < 1775254556 698019 :lynndotpy6093627!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 JOIN #esolangs lynndotpy :lynn < 1775256167 146782 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.104.58 JOIN #esolangs * :11,8aadenboy — it's pronounced [ˈejˌdɛnb� < 1775256172 847198 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.104.58 PRIVMSG #esolangs :afternoon < 1775256201 952627 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.104.58 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should connect to here more frequently.... < 1775256759 739800 :somefan!~somefan@208.58.192.69 PRIVMSG #esolangs :helo! [sic] < 1775257339 540784 :impomatic!~impomatic@lock-04-b2-v4wan-171175-cust377.vm10.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1775258421 319499 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.104.58 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can't wait for 2027 where my user page is a whole 20 pages long or something < 1775258431 14264 :aadenboy!~aadenboy@172.56.104.58 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just dense full of tables < 1775259812 942852 :tromp!~textual@2001:1c00:340e:2700:f5b2:b468:1c7d:8570 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…