00:02:45 With systems that use a different epoch (or a different number of bits, or different units of measurement, etc) then the limit might be a different year; I don't know which ones are common other than UNIX and Windows (and perhaps DOS), but maybe there are some. 00:05:55 I also think the coloured rings are useful, but, it can be difficult if you are colour blind or are trying to make a picture that is not colours 00:06:17 (but, you can use a multimeter to test it) 00:10:38 ext4 (the filesystem I'm currently running) uses 34-bit integers for timestamps 00:11:10 which creates a somewhat weird extended Y2038 limit 00:11:14 presumably it won't be in use by the time we get near that 00:14:40 I also have ext4, and I have read that somewhere as well 00:15:49 (it's a bitfield with 30 bits for nanoseconds to fit the 0-999999999 range, meaning 34 bits are available for seconds) 00:18:48 I am not so sure that it should need that much precision, unless you are modifying a file during every nanosecond (and not more often or less often than that) 00:19:38 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 251 seconds). 00:24:13 I'm actually a little concerned that very accurate timestamps could be a security risk against capability systems, because they provide more mechanisms via which a program could work out the current time and thus do sidechannel attacks 00:25:19 some programs want to know whether a file has been modified since a given moment in time, so they might legitimately want to know the timestamp, but if the program isn't allowed to time things you have to prevent it timing things via creating files and looking at their timestamps 00:27:09 Yes, I also thought of the security with capability systems; my own idea for a computer design, the file does not have any built-in metadata; you could store a timestamp in there if you want to but the structure of the file system does not inherently include such things. 00:27:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 00:27:46 (The use of proxy capabilities is also one of the things that would help, because e.g. you might not have access to some forks of the file) 00:30:47 (I have a git repository https://github.com/zzo38/computerdesign that I wrote some of my ideas so far but I did not write all of them yet, and some things are not decided yet, and/or may be changed in future.) 00:32:12 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 254 seconds). 00:37:36 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 00:43:44 ais523: I mean just because the file system format allows precise timestamps doesn't mean that the file system driver always have to write timestamps that precise in there. 00:43:54 b_jonas: indeed 00:44:54 in some cases it is useful to have a sort of "proxy time" (where the inside of a sandbox sees timestamps differently from how the outside sees them), having very accurate timestamps is useful for that because it increases the chance that the timestamp mapping is strongly increasing and thus a bijection (and thus invertible) 00:45:04 Yes, although it can mean that you do not have more bits for seconds because some are used for nanoseconds instead 00:53:10 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 01:00:39 -!- pgmpiet has joined. 01:01:04 hello 01:01:54 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:06:20 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 251 seconds). 01:08:04 hi pgmpiet 01:10:34 i am user Miui on the wiki ^.^ 01:12:23 -!- amby has quit (Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement). 01:19:32 one of the big problems with moderating the wiki is dealing with pages that appear to describe a language, but where there isn't actually a language and the page is just art in the form of a language specification 01:20:17 honestly if i could i would go back and only do pgmpiet 01:20:34 took awhile to learn what is happening on the wiki 01:20:37 some pages like that are quite popular, others aren't, but they kind-of go against the "anyone can edit a wiki" principle because the goal of editing a page should be to make it a better description of the language, and if the language doesn't actually exist, you cna't do that 01:21:55 (this isn't a new problem, it dates back to at least TURKEY BOMB) 01:24:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:26:45 i know technically i could be classified as a "learner" maybe its possible to move learner "langs" to a user archive or something? 01:29:02 that would also wrap up the links that go to the ai generated pages (which im not opposed to the deletion of) 01:29:34 personally its not a problem for me to outlink those machincations for contex 01:32:07 perhaps moving pages back to userspace would make sense if they were done to practice making pages rather than to describe an esolang 01:32:26 or they could be deleted, if there isn't actually a language there 01:34:11 i think thats an apt description of what was happening 01:36:45 what are your thoughts on pgmpiet? its not much different from piet but i made it to make it a little easier to work with the piet syntax 01:37:44 an external resource on the piet page is also a fine place for it 01:37:45 it looks like it's just Piet with different syntax? although it's unclear how the commands work 01:38:07 -!- ChimeraAnova has joined. 01:38:11 I guess it might be a "trivial Piet substitution" in that it is the same language but with shades of gray rather than colors 01:38:15 if it does merit its own page i do need to describe the commands a bit 01:38:23 yeah more-or-less 01:38:50 historically these things have often been written on their own pages but I think that merging them into the page about the original language makes sense if the differences are small enough 01:38:56 i added one command to print the header to possibly make a quine easier but i dont think it would actually 01:39:10 (or in cases like BF where there are a large number of derivatives, merging all the trivial substitutions onto a single page) 01:39:26 cool thanks for the feedback 01:39:29 most quines are fairly easy to modify to print a fixed prefix 01:39:51 appreciate it ais 01:39:57 ^ul (a(:^)*S):^ 01:39:58 (a(:^)*S):^ 01:40:07 ^ul (a(^ul )~&(:^)*S):^ 01:40:08 ...bad insn! 01:40:11 ^ul (a(^ul )~*(:^)*S):^ 01:40:11 ^ul (a(^ul )~*(:^)*S):^ 01:40:21 like that 01:40:43 i see 01:41:37 quines usually work by calculating a string that contains the program's source code, if you have such a string you can output an arbitrary function of it, e.g. adding prefixes to it 01:43:42 im gonna head out! 01:43:44 cya 01:43:50 -!- pgmpiet has quit (Quit: Client closed). 01:47:13 by the way it'll still be worth to try to write a Little Men quine. it can be done by standard techniques, no theoretical difficulties, but the language makes it annoying in practice. 01:51:56 "trivial X substitution" is a fun term 01:52:16 hmm, now you're making me wonder what a quine in Mornington Crescent would be like 01:52:21 it seems to be the same sort of problem 01:52:49 (standard techniques working but being annoying) 01:53:33 [[Talk:FlamePL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196069&oldid=196030 * PrySigneToFry * (+370) 02:45:54 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[]] to [[User:Miui/]]: unnecessary page 02:45:54 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:]] to [[User talk:Miui/]]: unnecessary page 02:46:34 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Nah.]] to [[User:Miui/Nah.]]: unnecessary page 02:46:34 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:Nah.]] to [[User talk:Miui/Nah.]]: unnecessary page 02:47:13 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Nintendo.]] to [[User:Miui/Nintendo.]]: unnecessary page 02:47:36 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Ni entiendo.]] to [[User:Miui/Ni entiendo.]]: unnecessary page 02:47:58 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Nuclear launch detected.]] to [[User:Miui/Nuclear launch detected.]]: unnecessary page 02:47:58 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:Nuclear launch detected.]] to [[User talk:Miui/Nuclear launch detected.]]: unnecessary page 02:48:45 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[++]] to [[User:Miui/++]]: unnecessary page 02:48:45 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:++]] to [[User talk:Miui/++]]: unnecessary page 02:49:11 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[QuineAvoiding("", "")]] to [[User:Miui/QuineAvoiding("", "")]]: unnecessary page 02:50:30 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Kia SorrentoLX with no power-steering evading police in reverse]] to [[User:Miui/Kia SorrentoLX with no power-steering evading police in reverse]]: unnecessary page 02:50:56 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Hiyad]] to [[User:Miui/Hiyad]]: unnecessary page 02:51:21 fungot eats onion rings at 3:21 PM local time 02:51:21 ChimeraAnova: sarahbot doesn't allow syntactic keywords to be flagged for human reading it. 02:51:45 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Oragami]] to [[User:Miui/Oragami]]: existence of language unclear 02:51:45 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:Oragami]] to [[User talk:Miui/Oragami]]: existence of language unclear 02:52:02 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Mental Shakespeare]] to [[User:Miui/Mental Shakespeare]]: existence of language unclear 02:52:02 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:Mental Shakespeare]] to [[User talk:Miui/Mental Shakespeare]]: existence of language unclear 02:52:25 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Dafne]] to [[Miui/Dafne]]: existence of language unclear 02:52:25 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Talk:Dafne]] to [[Talk:Miui/Dafne]]: existence of language unclear 02:52:43 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Jesus!Alive!]] to [[Miui/Jesus!Alive!]]: existence of language unclear 02:53:03 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Choropleth]] to [[Miui/Choropleth]]: existence of language unclear 02:53:03 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved 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02:57:39 [[++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196127&oldid=190928 * Miui * (-3196) blanked page, tagged for deletion (reason: unnessecary page) 02:58:29 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Miui/The Thought Police]] to [[User:Miui/The Thought Police]]: fix move to wrong namespace 02:58:48 [[User:Miui]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196129&oldid=195765 * Miui * (+50) /* esolangs */ moved some pages to user space 02:59:33 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Miui/Choropleth]] to [[User:Miui/Choropleth]]: fix move to wrong namespace 02:59:33 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Talk:Miui/Choropleth]] to [[User talk:Miui/Choropleth]]: fix move to wrong namespace 03:00:24 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Miui/Dafne]] to [[User:Miui/Dafne]]: fix move to wrong namespace 03:00:24 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Talk:Miui/Dafne]] to [[User talk:Miui/Dafne]]: fix move to wrong namespace 03:01:53 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [[Miui/Jesus!Alive!]] to [[User:Miui/Jesus!Alive!]]: fixed moved to namespace 03:02:42 -!- password2 has joined. 03:02:48 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Miui * moved [['''''']] to [[User:User:Miui/'''''']]: existence of language unclear 03:04:01 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[BackroomsTDP]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:04:01 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:BackroomsTDP]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: cross-namespace redirect 03:04:13 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[++]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:04:13 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:++]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: cross-namespace redirect 03:04:28 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Kia SorrentoLX with no power-steering evading police in reverse]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:04:37 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Hiyad]]": cross-namespace 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deleted "[[Talk:Choropleth]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: cross-namespace redirect 03:05:35 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[See Two]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:05:35 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:See Two]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: cross-namespace redirect 03:05:44 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[SIMP]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:05:52 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[The Thought Police]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:07:06 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Miui/Jesus!Alive!]]": cross-namespace redirect 03:07:35 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[User:User:Miui/'''''']] to [[User:Miui/'''''']]: typo made in the new name when moving a page 03:08:49 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[2-packets]]": not an esolang, blanked by author 03:10:00 -!- pgmpiet has joined. 03:10:23 hello. i started moving my pages. hopefully that was the correct action. my apologies for the mistakes 03:12:04 thank you for the help 03:12:56 I think I fixed the mistakes 03:13:26 im cross checking by adding links on my userpage 03:13:50 [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196139&oldid=196129 * Miui * (+20) /* esolangs */ 03:14:11 [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196140&oldid=196139 * Miui * (-219) /* Constant languages */ 03:14:28 there are a bunch more i'll try to get to later 03:14:36 thx again! 03:14:41 good night ~~ 03:14:55 -!- pgmpiet has quit (Quit: Client closed). 03:15:33 [[User:Miui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196141&oldid=196140 * Miui * (+19) /* Works in progress */ should be all for now 03:34:26 ^show 03:34:27 echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2 8ball rreree rerere botsnack bf 03:34:33 ^show wiki 03:34:33 +15[>+4>+7>+7>+8<4-]>3-.>-4..<2+7.+3.<-2.-11..>2-3.<.>2-5.-3.<-4.>+2.<+6.<.<-.>3+.+3.<.<2+.>+4.>+2.+2.-2.<2.,[.,] 03:34:58 ^show asc 03:34:58 >2,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>2,] 03:35:02 ^asc 03:35:04 ^asc a 03:35:04 97 03:35:05 ^asc 12 03:35:05 49 50 03:35:14 ^asc Hello, world! 03:35:14 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 03:38:05 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:38:24 `ame 256 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 03:38:27 Usage: from , to [num2] ... 03:38:28 `` ame 256 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 03:38:31 No output. 03:38:38 `` ame to 256 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 03:38:40 2645608968347327576478451524936 03:39:13 `` ame from 256 2645608968347327576478451524936 03:39:16 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 03:46:02 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:22:23 `` ame --help 04:22:24 [[Bitwise Cyclic Tist]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196142&oldid=196005 * Cordership * (-14) 04:22:26 Usage: from , to [num2] ... 04:23:11 [[Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tist]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196143&oldid=196053 * Cordership * (+208) /* this is just bitwise cyclic tag */ new section 04:24:57 -!- MarkFan8901 has joined. 04:25:12 we found the term we were looking for for that one ai idea we had 04:25:18 symbolic regression 04:25:43 we basically wanna do that but instead of pure math equations its some general programming language 04:27:11 something more about symbolic regression though 04:27:34 our specific idea with how the general programming language would be constructed is that itd have to be VERY easy to create new commands with it 04:28:07 a la how forth is able to bootstrap such semantically dense words so quickly 04:28:39 but also still be able to be internally configurable enough for laerning to be possible 04:29:17 we have a hypothesis that this is actually how neural networks learn things at a fundamental level too 04:30:32 this video https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=D8GOeCFFby4 talks about Exactly how a neural network learned to perform modular addition 04:31:06 and the way it did it was by first memorizing all the answers, then over time learning how to generate sine waves 04:32:52 Then, it learned how to manipulate them with addition and multiplication until it could successfully generalize all the answers 04:33:02 and then un-memorized the answers 04:33:17 we gotta rewatch the video to remember the specifics, but 04:34:04 we feel like this pattern of building custom commands to solve problems is exactly what neural networks are doing, we imagine all the way up to how theyre currently being used right now 04:34:18 I wanted to say that addition is easy, it's only like these forty lines of definition in https://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/Bin.hs , but it turns out that one has had a typo all this time and says "addittion" with two "t", that's kind of embarrassing 04:34:32 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 04:34:50 thats really funny 04:35:30 MarkFan8901: making a symbolic programming language that can mimic this behavior seems kind of tricky though 04:36:13 one of the strong suits of neural networks is that, starting with a random configuration, a slight change in one node only makes a slight change in the overall computation it's doing 04:36:49 which we imagine makes it quite easy to stumble into the necessary tools you would need to start building more useful commands 04:37:56 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 04:38:06 that would be in comparison with starting with set rules about the language, where a slight change in one command of a random program would have a very nontrivial cascading effect 04:38:27 ais523: I didn't implement flags for the ame command, it does that by default if there are less than three arguments 04:38:31 `` ame 04:38:33 Usage: from , to [num2] ... 04:39:12 the difficulty would be making a language that can implement new commands So well that this would be negligible in the starting phases 04:40:05 maybe some language which had a comically small amount of commands to start with which would cause lots of repetition in useful code 04:40:42 which would therefore be easily compressible, therefore easy to make new commands in, would work 04:41:09 Actually hold on a sec 04:41:26 what about a language thats designed to be compressed perfectly with gzip 04:42:14 or like, in general a programming language designed in conjunction with a certain method of compression 04:43:24 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 04:45:21 fungot do you like burger 04:45:21 ChimeraAnova: haskell's ' data' is plural, not asking what you understand as " call-by-value"? 04:45:51 oh speaking of haskell 04:45:58 we realized something in common with forth and haskell earlier 04:46:01 but it might take a bit to remember 04:46:17 computation? 04:46:22 yea something about that 04:47:19 [[User talk:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196144&oldid=149449 * Marcus 2n2 * (+371) Since no one responded I'll just ask you 04:48:00 hm 04:48:11 we think it has something to do with intent 04:48:15 off-topic to your conversation but there should be a language where data can be singular or plural 04:48:22 True... 04:48:36 programming language which can evolve like a natural language 04:48:50 that's called c++ 04:48:57 TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04:49:05 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 04:50:01 MarkFan8901: we remember this one REALLY cool (but probably not original) paper 04:50:41 where they deduce the combinator J from the properties that JJ -> S and JJJ -> K or smth 04:51:49 and we thought it was so cool cuz the way they did it was by practically just breaking the properties of such a combinator down more and more until it basically just wrote itself 04:52:07 and something clicked with us about that and haskell 04:52:16 we realized thats basically how haskell programming works 04:52:53 you think about what properties your program *would* have, breaking it down into further and further sub-programs, until each of those programs also just write themselves 04:53:20 and we think thats a very elegant definition of a declarative language 04:53:47 one where you sift the program from your intent about what it should do 04:53:57 sift the program out* 04:54:41 forth has kind of a similar thing going on with it, except by a completely different mechanism 04:55:56 whereas haskell was designed heavily from a top-down, academic point of view to achieve that effect, forth got it by virtue of being so bent on low-level understanding and control 04:56:45 when you write a forth program, youre not only thinking hard about what your program actually does, but what your hardware actually does too 04:57:25 and a lot of forth programming is figuring out how to make your hardware do what you want your program to do most efficiently 04:57:44 which naturally also requires understanding what you actually want your program to do intimately 04:58:56 the thing the two languages have in common is that, in both of them, you learn your own intentions so hard that the program gets written simply as a side effect 05:00:08 and we feel like whatever process this learning is might be formalizable 05:00:23 and used as a learning algorithm 05:00:36 ofc in conjunction with the proper language for it 05:01:18 to specify, we mean specifically the process people take to do this 05:01:45 we wanna try getting good at this kind of interrogation to see what methods we naturally create to do that 05:02:13 then see if we can make certain rules out of them that are formal enough to be automated 05:18:11 [[Quaternions]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196145 * Cleverxia * (+2647) another one 05:19:25 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196146&oldid=196145 * Cleverxia * (-9) fix definition 05:25:03 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196147&oldid=195700 * Cleverxia * (+159) /* Quaternions */ new section 05:25:48 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196148&oldid=196146 * Cleverxia * (-4) actually synced 05:26:49 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196149&oldid=196148 * Cleverxia * (+56) do some hacky formatting 05:27:17 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196150&oldid=196149 * Cleverxia * (-51) 05:27:45 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196151&oldid=196150 * Cleverxia * (-5) I give up 05:28:08 >asc Hello, world! 05:28:14 ^asc Hello, world! 05:28:14 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 05:37:36 [[Dolfins grace]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196152&oldid=152080 * Cordership * (+32) /* "fun" with portals */ 05:40:45 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196153&oldid=196147 * Blashyrkh * (+356) /* Quaternions */ 05:47:59 [[User talk:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196154&oldid=196144 * PkmnQ * (+200) /* - and number in 5 */ I feel like one of these has an easy answer 05:50:05 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196155&oldid=196153 * Blashyrkh * (+403) /* Quaternions */ 05:57:37 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196156&oldid=196151 * Cleverxia * (+1) /* program flow */ 05:58:35 [[User:Miui/Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196157&oldid=196096 * Miui * (+2567) /* Examples */ 06:00:28 AFJHAFDSDJA 06:00:37 finally finished the brainfuck interpreter in 3d brainfuck 06:01:02 sadly can't share it yet since. playtester only..... but Wow! 06:01:23 sorry 3d cellua not 3d brainfuck 06:01:30 [[Bottles of beer on the wall]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196158&oldid=192549 * Qazwsxplm * (+7) /* Will It Work? */ 06:02:12 [[Bottles of beer on the wall]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196159&oldid=196158 * Qazwsxplm * (+66) /* Will It Work? */ 06:03:00 [[Bobotw]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196160&oldid=192543 * Qazwsxplm * (+32) 06:06:15 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196161&oldid=196156 * Cleverxia * (+2085) 06:08:47 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196162&oldid=196161 * Cleverxia * (-60) /* Interpreter */ 06:08:58 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196163&oldid=196162 * Cleverxia * (+0) /* Truth machine */ 06:19:06 [[Chef]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196164&oldid=194806 * Qazwsxplm * (+8) /* See also */ 06:23:10 [[User:Cleverxia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196165&oldid=195834 * Cleverxia * (+116) add [[Quaterions]] 06:23:45 [[User:Cleverxia]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196166&oldid=196165 * Cleverxia * (+1) 06:24:15 [[Quaterions]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196167 * Cleverxia * (+25) why do I typoed it another time 06:36:04 [[Bitdeque]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196168&oldid=189079 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+1300) Added translation from Turing-machines 06:36:26 ^asc 01 06:36:26 48 49 06:39:18 [[Talk:Three Star Programmer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196169&oldid=54323 * Cleverxia * (+250) 06:53:56 [[User:Miui/Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196170&oldid=196157 * Miui * (+586) /* Computational Class */ 06:56:53 [[User:Miui/Oragami]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196171&oldid=196170 * Miui * (+74) /* See Also */ 17 07:00:16 -!- potter has quit (Quit: Should be back momentarily). 07:04:49 -!- potter has joined. 07:05:14 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 07:12:09 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196172&oldid=196155 * Cleverxia * (+361) /* Quaternions */ 07:13:40 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196173&oldid=196172 * Cleverxia * (+70) /* Quaternions */ 07:22:19 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196174&oldid=196052 * Blashyrkh * (+42) Add [[Quaternions]] 07:23:54 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196175&oldid=196173 * Blashyrkh * (+438) /* Quaternions */ 07:29:33 > This version is synced with esolanging wiki 07:29:34 Data constructor not in scope: 07:29:34 This :: t0 -> t1 -> t2 -> t3 -> t4 -> t5 -> tVariable not in scope: versio... 07:29:47 isnt the esolanging wiki supposed to be about the process of esolanging 07:29:51 not about esolangs themselves 07:30:00 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196176&oldid=196175 * PkmnQ * (+266) /* Quaternions */ Might as well 07:30:07 Also plastering the link on there like that feels like advertising 07:30:40 (on the [[Quaternions[[ page) 07:30:48 (on the [[Quaternions]]* page) 07:34:55 MarkFan8901: Yeah good point 07:34:58 LOL LAMBDABOT 07:36:23 I guess we should've made the clear purpose more explicit 07:36:46 ye 07:36:52 hm 07:37:23 having *some* esolang pages would be useful though, as a way to dissect their design and what you could learn from them 07:37:31 but theyd have to be like the really popular languages 07:38:25 or otherwise be rooted enough in cold hard creativity to be worthy of such dissections, like fractran 07:39:14 Not to say fractran isnt one of the big ones, but thats a very good example of a language which would be incredibly nutritious to thoroughly go through and understand 07:39:44 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196177&oldid=196176 * Cleverxia * (+293) /* Quaternions */ 07:39:53 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196178&oldid=196177 * Blashyrkh * (+501) /* Quaternions */ 07:42:23 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196179&oldid=196178 * Blashyrkh * (+111) /* Quaternions */ 07:42:57 > 1+1 07:42:58 2 07:43:03 > 1 + 1 07:43:03 > factor 129410512590129051259 07:43:04 2 07:43:04 Variable not in scope: factor :: t0 -> t 07:43:11 > + 1 1 07:43:11 > factor 12 07:43:12 :1:1: error: parse error on input `+' 07:43:12 Variable not in scope: factor :: t0 -> t 07:43:12 okay the 3d cellua brainfuck interpreter is actually working now 07:43:14 yippies! 07:43:37 > factor 62 07:43:38 Variable not in scope: factor :: t0 -> t 07:43:39 now make it so you can edit the local structure of the lattice 07:43:45 `` ame from primes 129410512590129051259 07:43:48 Ran out of primes \ 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 07:43:57 MarkFan8901: ? 07:44:07 [[Talk:BFFuck/3.x plans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196180&oldid=195978 * None1 * (+460) 07:44:08 `` ame from primes 62 07:44:11 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 07:44:57 [[Talk:BFFuck/3.x plans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196181&oldid=196180 * None1 * (+3) 07:45:07 `df 07:45:09 Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ none 25626004 16528472 9081148 65% /bin \ none 65536 0 65536 0% /dev \ none 25626004 16528472 9081148 65% /lib \ tmpfs 122052 0 122052 0% /tmp \ none 25626004 16528472 9081148 65% /usr \ none 25626004 16528472 9081148 65% /sbin \ none 25626004 16528472 9081148 65% /lib64 \ non 07:45:12 [[Talk:BFFuck/3.x plans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196182&oldid=196181 * None1 * (+0) 07:45:49 `df / 07:45:49 aadenboy: assuming the tape was in the shape of a cube, the directions you could go on each given cell would make the shape of a lattice 07:45:50 [[Talk:BFFuck/3.x plans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196183&oldid=196182 * None1 * (+34) 07:45:51 Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 0 0 0 - / 07:46:01 [[Talk:BFFuck/3.x plans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196184&oldid=196183 * None1 * (+1) 07:46:17 what if you could change the structure in some areas so that going in one direction would lead you to a different cell 07:46:21 `` ame from primes 650 07:46:23 1 0 2 0 0 1 07:46:39 [3d cellua] (a cellular automaton) [brainfuck interpreter] 07:46:49 ohhhh 07:47:38 ^asc Hello, world! 07:47:38 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 07:47:45 `` ame to primes 72 101 108 108 111 44 32 119 111 114 108 100 33 07:47:48 5075931560134850560426672751256646986873362664473396595149496813647655161762298465995640926737562374755345627459774893235077467391993744224639545660539812845957546421303452262278131734464063677817383905321734545832751910480116338456217194200550488390571471640986775787513991155433934487021885870746942570496 07:48:00 `` ame from primes 5075931560134850560426672751256646986873362664473396595149496813647655161762298465995640926737562374755345627459774893235077467391993744224639545660539812845957546421303452262278131734464063677817383905321734545832751910480116338456217194200550488390571471640986775787513991155433934487021885870746942570496 07:48:04 Ran out of primes \ 72 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 07:48:06 hm 07:48:22 `` ame to primes 72 101 108 108 111 07:48:25 25632258933448985245161455874009147775364231891108291447016713358467190805141274200027989035987203225121823239617034426846224118258074604377158505360090037089077936303496819349146597738001035197965517463446177401256700946757626021886840925494492587340123891331899018867393114533395068462129514000850660360192 07:48:32 `` ame to primes 72 101 108 07:48:34 22499189976894325709281596781465687936089271766875754110515117645263671875000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 07:48:46 `` ame from primes 22499189976894325709281596781465687936089271766875754110515117645263671875000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 07:48:48 72 101 108 07:49:12 [[CQfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196185&oldid=195930 * Cleverxia * (-5) /* Truth-machine */ golfier 07:50:19 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196186&oldid=196179 * Blashyrkh * (+289) /* Quaternions */ The reason why A+B is in my table 07:50:24 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196187&oldid=196163 * MarkFan8901 * (-138) not sure if linking to the esolanging wiki like that is appropriate, it feels like advertising 07:50:39 goodnight 07:50:53 gn 07:52:38 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196188&oldid=196187 * MarkFan8901 * (+3) capitalization 07:53:20 [[Quaternions]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196189&oldid=196188 * MarkFan8901 * (+0) 07:53:29 100000001/17 time signature 07:54:37 also 07:54:58 do you guys think [[Quaternions]] should be moved to [[Quaternions (Cleverxia)]] 07:55:10 so that the name wouldnt overlap with an actual page on quaternions 07:55:12 Because of confusion with the math? 07:55:16 yes 07:55:19 Sure thing 07:56:06 ya honesty we were kinda shy to do it cuz we already made a few edits on the page 07:56:41 c2bf with function pointers would be really cool 07:56:52 [[Beer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196190 * None1 * (+1475) Created page with "'''Beer''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]] and inspired by the lyrics of [[99 bottles of beer]]. ==Variables== This esolang uses unbounded signed integer variables. Assigning to a non-existent variable creates it and reading a non-existent variable returns 0. ===Cur 07:57:02 bf with function pointers... 07:57:09 but you dont get to define any 07:57:16 you just have to increment a cell to a pointer then call it 07:57:20 and pray it calls what you want it to 07:58:28 that with address space layout randomization would be really funny 07:58:55 [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196191&oldid=195802 * None1 * (+75) /* General languages */ 07:59:06 ye 07:59:16 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196192&oldid=195471 * None1 * (+75) /* My Esolangs */ 08:04:09 we stumbled onto [[Lynthology/Implementation]] from clicking [[Random page]] over and over again 08:04:16 its sad to see that it was written with claude 08:04:47 because the premise of the language sounds very relevant to our spiel on ai from earlier 08:05:18 the "possible" (quote from wiki) implementation being written with claude does not bode well for the page itself 08:05:48 The language itself was AI generated or the implementation? 08:05:55 the implementation 08:06:08 and it doesnt bode well cuz that could imply the page was too 08:06:15 However after reading it we dont think thats the case 08:06:26 its too word salad-y to be ai 08:06:37 thats a good thing though 08:06:41 cuz that means theres potential 08:08:52 [[Talk:Beer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196193 * Cleverxia * (+145) Created page with "can {{cd|num}} be a variable or {{cd|var}} be a number?~~~~" 08:09:26 wait a sec 08:09:28 Now that I read the [[Lythnology]] page the idea is very cool 08:09:30 ? 08:09:34 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196194&oldid=196186 * Cleverxia * (+256) /* Quaternions */ 08:09:36 theres [[Nope.]], [[Nope!]], and [[nope]] 08:09:44 ChimeraAnova: yea we're just starting to take it in 08:09:47 You mean [[nope|'''nope'''] 08:09:48 ] 08:09:51 we do like what we've read so far 08:10:00 but god the wording is incredibly confusing 08:10:01 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196195&oldid=196194 * Cleverxia * (+1) /* Quaternions */ 08:11:34 currently what we understand of it is that words have affordances and values 08:12:06 affordances are how the words interact with others around them, and values are what they evaluate to when treated as an expression 08:12:46 by default, undefined words have zero affordances and evaluate to themselves 08:13:07 'IS' changes the value of a word 08:13:55 ah wait okay 08:14:05 'IS' *copies* a word to another 08:14:13 which includes affordances 08:14:30 words can also have multiple values, but we dont know what exactly that means yet 08:18:39 uh 08:18:46 it completely flubs on the explanation of attributes 08:18:51 which seems like the most important part 08:19:14 ChimeraAnova: could you explain how attributes work in lynthology ;w; 08:20:21 Sure let me reread it a little 08:20:33 oki 08:20:52 Wait wdym attributes 08:21:01 That word doesn't appear anywhere in the page 08:21:10 wait shit we mean affordances 08:21:18 Ok 08:21:43 [[User:Cleverxia]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196196&oldid=196166 * Cleverxia * (+60) /* Current Non-Esolangs I've created */ 08:23:02 It looks like the "affordances" of a word is its special behavior, for example "SAY" has the "affordance"/effect of printing what you gave it 08:23:08 *are 08:23:26 right, but how do defining new affordances work 08:23:48 like if we wanted to make a function that added two bits together, how would that work 08:25:45 [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196197 * Cleverxia * (+580) create an empty golfing page 08:26:12 I think what you want can be achieved with TRANSFORMS, you can concat your two bits (for example, I and I to II) then transforms can transform it (looks like a half-adder) so OO and II become O while OI and IO become I 08:26:22 Just basing it off of the AND gate example 08:26:43 hmh 08:27:00 what if you wanted a word which acted like an infix NAND 08:27:13 so you could say something like `I NAND I` and it would return `O` 08:27:34 since we assume thats where the [[Category:Self modifying]] tag comes from 08:28:29 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196198&oldid=196174 * Blashyrkh * (+381) Add [[Looping counter]] program form 08:29:08 I guess you could do some freaky stuff with TRANSFORMS and make I/O TRANSFORM their argument somehow, I'm not entirely sure though if you can just do that (although based on `PRINT IS SAY`, I think you can?) 08:29:13 [[😀lang]] is just a trivial bf substitution 08:29:28 [[User talk:Blashyrkh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196199&oldid=196195 * Blashyrkh * (+134) /* Quaternions */ 08:29:43 ChimeraAnova: ya this language seems like its limited by its primitives 08:30:25 we should come up with a few basic words that could allow its self modifying nature to truly flourish 08:31:26 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196200&oldid=196190 * None1 * (+68) /* Commands */ 08:31:32 : something funny about the original definition is that it also hard codes the cat program as an explicit command into the language definition itself 08:32:02 -!- iovoid has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 08:32:03 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196201&oldid=196200 * None1 * (+662) 08:32:11 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Ping timeout: 253 seconds). 08:32:13 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196202&oldid=196201 * None1 * (-30) 08:32:17 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 263 seconds). 08:32:25 We should have more languages where the cat program is hard-coded 08:32:31 True... 08:32:32 [[Talk:Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196203&oldid=196193 * None1 * (+307) 08:34:16 MarkFan8901: HQ9C doesn't exist yet so if you don't mind being evaporated then you could make it real (outside our minds) 08:35:33 (I won't evaporate you but someone else might) 08:35:56 [[Esolang talk:Community portal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196204&oldid=195248 * None1 * (+716) /* Logged-in user got verification message when accessing Special:RecentChanges */ new section 08:36:33 ChimeraAnova: we would be the ones evaporating 08:36:38 [[Esolang talk:Community portal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196205&oldid=196204 * None1 * (-2) /* Logged-in user got verification message when accessing Special:RecentChanges */ 08:36:43 us making the page would be a suicide mission 08:37:06 Yeah exactly 08:37:17 [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196206&oldid=196197 * Cleverxia * (+38) 08:37:37 Someone made an HQ9+ derivative and was found shattered into 8941284901891265128956857120471290571985671286894712048912418024712894012 pieces 08:37:43 (+- 1) 08:39:09 8.9*10^72 pieces 08:39:24 thats ~10^10 pieces away from all atoms in the universe 08:39:28 [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196207&oldid=196206 * Cleverxia * (+59) 08:40:01 the person who got shattered is responsible for approximately 1e-10% of all atoms in the observable universe 08:40:15 Nah, their atoms were shattered too 08:40:25 And their protons and neutrons were shattered into their respective quarks 08:40:34 And then those quarks were somehow shattered as well 08:40:38 this person was the second big bang 08:41:14 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196208&oldid=196202 * None1 * (+257) /* Examples */ 08:41:41 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196209&oldid=196208 * None1 * (+43) /* Commands */ 08:41:55 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196210&oldid=196209 * None1 * (+25) /* Computational class */ 08:42:39 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196211&oldid=196210 * None1 * (+1) /* Current variable */ 08:42:53 The autopsy revealed they were conscious for like 7 seconds after being shattered so I wonder how painful being shattered into that many pieces must have been 08:44:18 'the autopsy' 08:44:46 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196212&oldid=196211 * None1 * (+37) /* Hello, world! */ 08:44:48 this person was made out of more atoms than the sun 08:45:25 Nah, they have (had) a normal amount of atoms 08:45:31 Their atoms just got shattered 08:45:38 And their electrons, protons, and neutrons got shattered 08:45:43 And their quantum particles and whatever too 08:46:13 just put them back then 08:46:15 Nothing else in the room was touched tho 08:46:26 oh so they were in a room when it happened 08:46:30 Yes 08:46:32 the lore expands 08:46:50 They made the HQ9+ derivative in their bedroom before being brutally shattered into [I'm not typing that number again] pieces 08:48:05 the fact there was an autopsy implies they were still in an examinable state after the shattering 08:48:11 I think they tried to put them back but they were missing a proton 08:48:19 goddamn it 08:48:22 hate it when that happens 08:48:47 MarkFan8901: which implies it didnt actually affect the structure of their body that much 08:48:53 which makes sense, it was their atoms not their protiens 08:48:56 or bones or whatever 08:51:41 It was kinda like if you dropped a lego build from the 153rd floor of a skyscraper 08:55:58 what about the 154rd 08:56:33 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 08:56:52 idk maybe something idfferent imght happen 08:59:35 Bowserinator: how are you and your alts /tease 08:59:46 [[Talk:COW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196213&oldid=30855 * None1 * (+356) /* Why is this Pseudonatural? */ new section 09:04:20 -!- emery has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.). 09:04:25 -!- moony has joined. 09:04:25 -!- iovoid has joined. 09:08:30 [[Talk:COW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196214&oldid=196213 * Raiseafloppafan7741 * (+521) /* Why is this Pseudonatural? */ 09:17:24 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196215&oldid=196212 * None1 * (-11) /* Truth Machine */ 09:19:10 massive quine 09:21:28 [[Esolang talk:Community portal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196216&oldid=196205 * Cleverxia * (+302) /* Logged-in user got verification message when accessing Special:RecentChanges */ 09:22:19 [[BFFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196217&oldid=130649 * None1 * (+170) /* Examples */ 09:23:31 [[BFFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196218&oldid=196217 * None1 * (+7449) /* Output (pseudo) random characters */ 09:25:22 [[BFFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196219&oldid=196218 * None1 * (-3580) /* Output (pseudo) random characters */ 09:32:29 [[Beer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196220&oldid=196215 * None1 * (+38) /* Commands */ 09:32:55 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196221&oldid=196220 * None1 * (+0) /* Truth Machine */ 09:33:30 [[Beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196222&oldid=196221 * None1 * (+156) /* Hello, world! */ 09:34:34 -!- de67 has joined. 09:34:44 hi guys 09:35:53 Hi 09:36:09 hi MarkFan8901 09:36:37 4/4 09:46:44 -!- MarkFan8901 has quit (Quit: Client closed). 09:53:22 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 09:53:28 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196223&oldid=196189 * Cleverxia * (+148) [[looping counter]] 09:53:31 Hi 09:53:33 hi APic 09:53:43 Yo de67 09:53:43 😌 09:54:18 [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196224&oldid=196207 * Cleverxia * (+46) 09:55:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:56:43 [[Quaternions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196225&oldid=196223 * Cleverxia * (+339) /* unary Looping counter */ 10:19:29 [[14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196226&oldid=195705 * Blashyrkh * (-7) /* Looping counter */ The [[Looping counter]] example was incorrect. It printed single asterisk on each line instead of arithmetic progression of asterisks. I replaced it with my golfed one 10:20:52 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196227&oldid=196198 * Blashyrkh * (+34) [[Looping counter]] @ [[14]] (33 bytes) 10:22:56 [[Do while true]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196228&oldid=175705 * Cleverxia * (+0) /* Interpreter in node.js */ 10:23:17 [[Do while true]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196229&oldid=196228 * Cleverxia * (+0) /* Interpreter in node.js */ another bug 10:23:33 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196230&oldid=196227 * Blashyrkh * (+66) List of competitors' pages 10:25:16 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 10:37:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 10:40:53 [[14]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196231&oldid=196226 * Blashyrkh * (-1) /* Truth-machine */ Shorter [[Truth-machine]] (17 > 16) 10:42:29 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196232&oldid=196230 * Blashyrkh * (+32) [[Truth-machine]] @ [[14]] (16 bytes instead of the language author's 17) 10:45:18 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 10:54:55 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 10:55:06 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196233&oldid=196232 * Blashyrkh * (+32) [[Kolakoski sequence]] @ [[Lazy K]] - add link to the code 10:58:54 [[User:PkmnQ/Golf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196234 * PkmnQ * (+858) I know I said I was going to do the quines first, but I got sidetracked 11:13:06 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:14:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 11:17:27 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196235&oldid=196233 * Blashyrkh * (+96) Update competitors list 11:24:44 Salutations fungot, how is thy condition of today? 11:24:44 ChimeraAnova: where's your ancestor? " fnord" is the new guile 11:25:06 (that definitely sounds strange if you don't know the original message) 11:25:16 *the intended message 11:25:27 hi, did you know that you cant say your own nick? 11:25:39 Ah, that sucks. 11:25:47 Thou cannot do so too. 11:26:00 that is truthful 11:27:01 fungot, what is (thinking component of an individual)fuck? 11:27:01 ChimeraAnova: well the common lisp standard 11:27:02 avoiding fifth glyph isnt that hard actually 11:27:22 Truthful, it truthfully isn't that difficult 11:27:53 shouldnt you avoid r too? 11:27:56 But, you cannot say the two digits in thy nick 11:27:58 Oh right that 11:28:00 Ok wait 11:28:39 Candid, it isn't that difficult to avoid said glyph 11:29:45 your wording is discombobulating 11:30:53 [[Talk:Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196236&oldid=167095 * TomosCode * (+263) added a new program that I made 11:32:44 Not "no ifs and buts" if it's that plain if you do it with (six plus six plus six)-th glyph, though. 11:36:00 Candid, my ongoing way of communicating is, with an early look, confounding. 11:37:23 I'm doubtful to what amount thy way of communicating is discombobulating, though. 11:37:35 WAIT I SAID E 11:37:38 fuck 11:38:11 i won by (mostly) not playing 11:38:41 candid 11:42:44 I still think that an individual must build a communication path with computing thingamabobs in which thou can not apply individual glyphs to thy application, that would do for an awfully gracious communication path with computing contraptions. 11:42:54 ...there goes the letter r 11:43:11 two times 11:43:12 and fifth glyph! 11:43:13 give or take 11:43:57 fungot, as I lost our communication path activity, can you also play it? 11:44:12 Limit of communication 11:44:13 fungot 11:44:13 de67: on the other hand, pulls out a number from an integer to a floating point variable or so for full set of variants unless you have nested maps of closures operating on hash splices of regular expression descriptors. 11:44:17 fungot, as I lost our communication path activity, can you also play it? 11:44:17 ChimeraAnova: we need a functional keyboard, where we have access from our library. not about the size reduction, did you give up and advocate to use " bytes", the same way 11:44:23 you lost very badly 11:44:30 ? 11:44:31 literally instant 11:44:45 who lost? 11:44:57 "wE nEEd a functional kEyboaRd, whERE wE havE accEss fRom ouR libRaRy." 11:46:15 also, you lost too, as in, a word which i cannot say has both glyphs which i cannot say 11:46:25 yeah 11:46:59 Us both (fungot and I) lost our activity involving our way of communication 11:46:59 ChimeraAnova: it's quite certainly there: fnord/ fnord/ fnord. 11:47:06 should i succumb and join you? 11:47:25 Depends on you, ask ais523 or MarkFan8901 11:47:40 Wait MarkFan8901 has an r in their name 11:47:59 hm 11:48:03 how do i word it? 11:48:07 There 11:48:11 Oh wait 11:48:16 Are you playing without both glyphs 11:48:20 Or jsut e 11:48:20 nah 11:48:38 Ask lambdabot 11:48:43 > factor 18041289418257 11:48:43 only fifth glyph i cannot say 11:48:44 Variable not in scope: factor :: t0 -> t 11:48:46 Ok 11:48:48 > factor 1 11:48:49 Variable not in scope: factor :: t0 -> t 11:48:50 . . . 11:48:55 I swear this used to work 11:50:06 I last saw long ago, this functionality working 11:50:48 Not "no ifs or buts" if I'm not loading it intact 11:50:57 why do you format dot dot dot in that way? 11:51:35 An individual with a nick I can't say also formats ". . ." in this way 11:51:51 (it's aadenboy, but sometimes) 11:51:59 oh 11:53:06 i thank you for stopping my discombobulation 11:53:51 You're welcome 11:53:54 . . . 11:54:14 Now that our language game is over I think I want to make a table or find-and-replace program that can play this game unfairly 11:54:24 ok 11:54:29 Would be really funny 11:54:52 By "unfairly" I mean it just does find-and-replace 11:55:00 hm 11:56:12 how about it just puts a warning as you write? 11:56:28 to stop you from writing a glyph that you cant say? 11:56:53 How about that warning be execution? 11:57:19 that is a bit too much 11:58:08 fungot begs to differ 11:58:08 ChimeraAnova: i thought it was an article written by someone else: ' although there are 4 pages that are usually huge dicks. with a java applet 11:59:25 C(++) without "e" would be interesting though 11:59:39 For starters no preprocessor directives 11:59:41 No extern 11:59:46 Just int main() {} 11:59:51 No return either lmao 11:59:54 i think that is truthful 12:00:36 i will go 12:00:37 So you have to use global variables, for example A+B: `int c;void add(int a, int b){c = a + b;}int main(){add(5, 3);}` 12:00:42 Bye 12:02:12 `factor 18041289418257 12:02:14 18041289418257: 3 7 17 677 74646713 12:02:25 Hindi ko alam kung magiging mas madali o mas mahirap ito kapag gumamit ka ng ibang wika maliban sa ginamit natin 12:02:32 Oh it was a HackEso command, not a lambdabot one 12:02:34 Thanks fizzie 12:02:41 `factor 45271 12:02:44 45271: 17 2663 12:02:54 btw 12:02:56 OF COURSE IT'S 17 IT'S ALWAYS THE NUMBER SEVENTEEN 12:03:00 i give up 12:03:07 in the no e game 12:03:11 i am now frEE 12:03:13 Good game 12:03:18 `factor 9015901257751 12:03:20 9015901257751: 19 29 16362797201 12:03:27 Most random factors 12:03:28 fizzie: can you pliz add interwiki link to esolanging wiki? 12:03:33 `factor 2147483438417129084102849124 12:03:36 2147483438417129084102849124: 2 2 3 29 37 3359 49652240618096414461 12:03:46 `factor 21474834384171290841028491241 12:03:48 21474834384171290841028491241: 41 173 277 10929998297081065249681 12:03:55 `factor 67 12:03:57 Time to break RSA with HackEso 12:03:57 67: 67 12:03:58 damn 12:04:02 67 is prime 12:04:05 ik 12:04:06 Not just that, it's the 19th prime 12:04:10 Also 12:04:15 It is superprime, a lucky prime, and etc 12:04:19 6+7=13, which is unlucky 12:04:27 6*7=42 which is the meaning of life 12:05:10 Also don't forget that e^(i * pi) + 67 = 66 12:05:28 wow 12:05:44 67 is really a great number 12:06:05 WAIT A DAMN SECOND 12:06:09 `factor 66 12:06:11 66: 2 3 11 12:06:12 `factor 68 12:06:14 68: 2 2 17 12:06:46 Aww they're not semiprimes 12:07:56 `factor 69 12:07:58 69: 3 23 12:08:00 `factor 71 12:08:01 `factor 70 12:08:02 71: 71 12:08:04 `factor 66 12:08:04 70: 2 5 7 12:08:06 66: 2 3 11 12:08:32 67 is prime + semiprime + lucky, 69 is semiprime, 71 is prime + semiprime 12:09:08 primes aren't semiprimes 12:09:16 oh right 12:09:28 67 is prime + lucky, 69 is semiprime, 71 is prime 12:10:36 67 is prime + superprime + lucky, 69 is semiprime, 71 is prime 12:11:21 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196237&oldid=195741 * Cordership * (+88) /* Syntax */ 12:11:22 also, except for 4 and 6, no two even semiprimes are exactly 2 apart, because for all such even numbers, one of them is divisible by 2*2. 12:11:43 so one of 66 or 68 had to fail to be a semiprime :P 12:12:24 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196238&oldid=196237 * Cordership * (+49) /* ROT13 encoder */ 12:13:43 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196239&oldid=196238 * Cordership * (+85) /* Finding errors */ 12:13:51 ROT26 is my favorite encryption algorithm and IRC port 6667 uses it so it must be good 12:14:04 It's also like ROT13 in that you can use the encoder as the decoder 12:14:23 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196240&oldid=196239 * Cordership * (-85) /* Finding errors */ 12:15:27 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196241&oldid=196240 * Cordership * (+1) /* Syntax */ 12:16:10 [[Simpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196242&oldid=196241 * Cordership * (+27) /* Cat program */ 12:17:17 [[List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196243&oldid=193715 * Cordership * (+28) /* Self-modifying Brainfuck# */ 12:20:57 -!- FreeFull has quit. 12:24:01 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196244 * Blashyrkh * (+437) [[Kolakoski sequence]] @ [[Brainfuck]] - 80 bytes 12:25:56 -!- FreeFull has joined. 12:30:08 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196245&oldid=196244 * Blashyrkh * (+31) Custom anchor name (not sure whether it works) 12:34:10 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196246&oldid=196235 * Blashyrkh * (+147) [[Kolakoski sequence]] @ [[Brainfuck]] - 80 bytes, not beaten anymore 12:45:35 [[FlamePL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196247&oldid=195987 * PrySigneToFry * (+445) 12:59:09 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Soup Girls * New user account 13:03:36 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196248&oldid=195995 * Soup Girls * (+109) added an introduction 13:04:29 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196249&oldid=196248 * Soup Girls * (+72) fixed the signature (lesson learned, preview first!) 13:13:34 yet again 13:13:41 tons of shit happened while i was away 13:13:53 the wiki's only active when im offline 13:14:32 it's not a real-time medium 13:15:51 fungot 13:15:51 ChimeraAnova: it doesn't matter 13:15:55 what doesn't matter 13:16:00 ROT26 13:16:00 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196250&oldid=196245 * Blashyrkh * (+537) My [[Brainfuck]] [[Quine]] written in 2012 13:16:04 Why 13:16:11 How dare you disrespect ROT26 13:16:17 cuz its literally the same as no encryption 13:16:19 It is the best encryption algorythm 13:16:20 its insecure 13:16:27 (just like me) 13:16:30 I prefer triple-rot13 13:16:36 Wdym bro IRC (port 6667) uses ROT26 encryption so it must be good 13:16:42 So did HTTP 1.1 13:16:44 int-e: but its the same as rot13!1!!1!1! 13:16:46 it avoids a meet in the middle attack that applies to double-rot13 13:17:04 de67: that is, indeed, the joke. 13:17:29 [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196251&oldid=196246 * Blashyrkh * (+40) Link to my [[Quine]] @ [[Brainfuck]] 13:17:33 "ROT13!1!!1!" cursed math notation, I think you meant "ROT(13! * 1!! * 1!)" which is ROT(wait) 13:17:40 de67: But triple-DES is a real thing, and there is no double-DES exactly because of what I said :P 13:17:43 > 13 * 12 * 11 * 10 * 9 * 8 * 7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 13:17:44 6227020800 13:17:51 "ROT13!1!!1!" cursed math notation, I think you meant "ROT(13! * 1!! * 1!)" which is ROT(6227020800) 13:17:53 [[User:C0ffee/bf.sed]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196252 * C0ffee * (+1487) Created page with "I learned sed so I made a [[brainfuck]] interpreter
, (input) is not impletemented 
 # 8-bit brainfuck interpreter in sed # 13 cells (this can be changed) # Please do not input multiple lines of BF code  y/[]/{}/ s/[^-+<>{},.]//g  s/.*/00 00 00 00 00
13:18:13  ROT(6227020800) would be interesting
13:18:27  > 6227020800 `mod` 26
13:18:28   0
13:18:28  > 6227020800 % 26
13:18:30   239500800 % 1
13:18:43  oh
13:18:44  eh?
13:18:51  Wtf is that, divmod
13:19:01  > 26 * 239500800
13:19:02  rot6227020800 is as secure as rot26!!!
13:19:02   6227020800
13:19:05  de67: that works too; you can see from the denominator that it's an integer.
13:19:33  ROT6227020800 is superior to ROT26
13:19:35  Prove me wrong
13:19:42  no
13:19:47  HTTP 1.1 and IRC use it so it must be good right?
13:19:51  its just rot26, but SLOWER!!!
13:19:54  ChimeraAnova: the number is too long, you're bound to typo it eventually
13:19:55  [[User:C0ffee/bf.sed]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196253&oldid=196252 * C0ffee * (+0) 
13:19:59  much sooner than 26.
13:20:50  int-e: Yeah, and what sucks is that my IRC client doesn't allow me to copy-paste so I'd have to either whip out Notepad or type it manually which is quite annoying
13:21:31  [[User:C0ffee]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196254&oldid=195876 * C0ffee * (+41) 
13:21:34  de67: In that case, just make an optimized DSL called ROT6227020800 which performs ROT6227020800 on its input
13:22:06  [[User:C0ffee]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196255&oldid=196254 * C0ffee * (-6) Sorry I'm new to Wikis
13:22:25  Or if you're an AI bro then train an LLM to perform ROT6227020800 (somehow, I haven't read the papers yet)
13:24:22  hm
13:24:38  one good side of rot26 is that its widely available
13:24:53  all *nix systems have a rot26 encryptor/decryptor
13:24:53  its called cat
13:25:22  its also very easy to encrypt/decrypt for people
13:25:25  like, im gonna do it right now
13:25:26  Exactly
13:25:26  `` tr a-zA-Z a-zA-Z <<<'Hello, rot0 world!'
13:25:29  Hello, rot0 world!
13:25:35  And ROT6227020800 is even better
13:25:37  ciphertext: SIX SEVEN plaintext: SIX SEVEN
13:25:52  Because 6227020800 > 26 so it MUST be better, right? RIGHT??!#?!$?!$!@O$?!@$JRJKWQRIO
13:26:05  Is Caesar rot23 or rot3?
13:26:06  ChimeraAnova: no, its just rot26, but slower, and rot26 is rot0, but slower
13:26:15  int-e: i think its rot1
13:26:19  speaking of rot
13:26:26  THE TRILIME IS ROTTING
13:26:34  ?
13:27:11  de67: No it definitely shifts by 3. D becomes A etc. The question is about which way the rotation goes, something that doesn't come up for rot13.
13:27:23  hm
13:27:53  it seems like its rot23 then
13:27:54  or maybe shift was always variable.
13:28:34  int-e: that would allow rot26 though
13:28:58  Oh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_cipher#History_and_usage ...A became D etc.
13:29:05  hm
13:29:12  if a become d, then its rot3
13:32:33  [[.chat]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196256&oldid=189695 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+227) 
13:33:53  [[User talk:Yayimhere]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196257&oldid=194986 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+167) /* Hello! */ new section
13:34:30  [[.chat]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196258&oldid=196256 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (+7) /* Computational class */
13:37:43  3DES is still in practical terms unbroken, right? At least in some circumstances.
13:38:41  fizzie: im discombobulated, whats the context?
13:41:07  fizzie: I think so, yes. It's rather slow in software though.
13:41:19  ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:41:23  the encryption thing!
13:42:22  fizzie: and the 64 bit block size can be problematic (for example it's fairly likely to see collisions which are problematic in CBC mode)
13:44:46  I have this vague memory of implementing MD5 in Z80 assembly, but I can't imagine why would I ever have needed to do such a thing.
13:47:09  (That one at least is properly broken now.)
13:47:30  how do you even break a hashing algorithm???
13:48:25  well first you figure out what security properties these are supposed to have, like collision resistance
13:53:30  Yes, I guess it's more subtle than just a binary yes/no thing. Even for MD5, looking it up, while it's now practical to construct collisions (even collisions with two separately chosen prefixes), it's still preimage-resistant.
13:59:20  [[BFFuck/3.x plans]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196259&oldid=195977 * None1 * (+97) /* Features */
14:13:21  [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196260&oldid=196224 * Cleverxia * (+31) 
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14:20:10  Lovely morning!
14:21:49  hi tater_
14:28:21  [[Talk:Quaternions]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196261 * Blashyrkh * (+269) /* Rational or irrational? */ new section
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14:45:41  [[Dequefest]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196263 * Cordership * (+425) Created page with "Dequefest is a deque-based esolang by [[User:Cordership]]. =Syntax= {|class=wikitable ! Command !! Definition |- | pop as var || Pop the deque and assign a variable to it. |- | push  || Push something: a string, an integer, a float, or a variable. |- | ej as var || 
14:47:53  hi emery
14:48:11  cordership learnt about deques!
14:48:15  i fucking love deques!
14:48:18  deques are the best!
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14:59:50  int-e: huh, didn't know the shift by 3 was canonical...
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15:02:44  [[Do while true]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196264&oldid=196229 * Cleverxia * (+136) /* Interpreter in node.js */ wow, the spec is so vague
15:03:45  [[User:Cleverxia/golfing results]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196265&oldid=196260 * Cleverxia * (+39) 
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15:25:13  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196266&oldid=196251 * Blashyrkh * (+3) /* The code */ and/or
15:37:59  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196267&oldid=196266 * Blashyrkh * (+29) A little detail about FizzBuzz
15:52:22  [[Quaternions]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196268&oldid=196225 * Hotcrystal0 * (+25) Fixes
15:53:09  [[User:Hotcrystal0/Sandbox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196269&oldid=195952 * Hotcrystal0 * (+79) 
15:54:37  im almost done with my next esolang!
15:55:03  writing a wikipage for it is so much pain
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16:03:15  hi DOS_User_webchat
16:03:29  hi de67
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16:03:47  what is a 4 letter word but is a 3 letter word while it is a 2 letter word (hint: this isnt a question)
16:04:15  ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:04:17  i get it
16:04:32  what, but, and it are the words
16:04:49  yes
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16:06:26  im devastated, modfisdnfdisnf left
16:07:00  who?
16:07:10  mosdfisdnfdisnf
16:07:11  havent been here in a while
16:07:20  who is that
16:07:28  a person
16:07:31  ok
16:09:00  but that is a word too
16:09:13  yea
16:09:21  int-e: indeed, that is a 4-letter word
16:09:46  we should stop doing languages, they are too confusing
16:10:11  i think im stating the obvious, but fungot will eventually result in human extinction
16:10:11  de67: ignore him, some idiot fnord me is diffrent and theres an even more entertaining! it had actual dialogue!) or related through apes and monkeys at least!
16:10:26  int-e: what do we use then?
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16:11:04  it somehow replied on-topic
16:11:17  i think ill write a whole article explaining my point in depth
16:16:12  DOS_User_webchat: ugh, hmm, rawr, eek
16:16:36  int-e: someone needs to make an esolang about those
16:16:43  hmm
16:16:44  eek
16:16:46  is
16:16:46  a
16:16:47  real
16:16:50  beep beep (im the roadrunner)
16:16:51  esolang
16:17:08  there's Ook! which makes this seem rahter redundant
16:17:14  eek like the penis by surasshu
16:17:25  DOS_User_webchat: you disruped my spa- ummmm row of messages
16:17:27  (real song btw)
16:19:38  de67: spam brand canned meat
16:19:58  or also a spa idk
16:20:50  re: fungot causing human extinction: https://social.treehouse.systems/@Elizafox/117298698204969728
16:20:50  int-e: okay i'm implementing a bit verbosely... but i'm getting there... but let's not think about.
16:21:14  think about what?
16:21:39  Oh maybe it invented a 0-letter word.
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16:24:14  welcome back
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16:28:59  16:17  (real song btw)
16:29:01  fun fact: the actual name is JUST "Eek!"
16:29:40  hi jinn6
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16:35:00  hi zzo38
16:40:54  I'm always here, lurking
16:41:48  call my name and I appear, example: 13:25  ciphertext: SIX SEVEN plaintext: SIX SEVEN
16:41:50  lol
16:42:16  thats cool
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16:58:39  hi je_
16:58:44  hi Guest57
16:59:05  [[43]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196270 * Dragoneater67 * (+16330) this took so much time...
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17:02:23  [[User:Dragoneater67]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196271&oldid=195967 * Dragoneater67 * (+117) 
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17:10:34  ??
17:11:52  [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Miui *  moved [[17]] to [[17 (Miui)]]: moved joke dialect to disambiguate
17:12:24  [[17 (Miui)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196274&oldid=196272 * Miui * (+10) update redlink
17:21:49  skibidi stigma
17:28:09  i forgor to add the etymology section that explains that 43h == 67
17:28:28  but i hope the readers are smart enough to infer that themselves
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17:30:17  ho joast
17:33:19  hi*
17:37:46  [[43]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196275&oldid=196270 * PkmnQ * (+97) fyi, I did not get the 67 thing until I read the logs
17:38:08  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196276&oldid=196275 * PkmnQ * (+1) 
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17:49:16  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196277&oldid=196276 * Dragoneater67 * (+3) /* Operators */
17:49:36  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196278&oldid=196277 * Dragoneater67 * (-56) /* Strings and Characters */
17:49:44  hi guys
17:49:45  im back
17:49:50   An individual with a nick I can't say also formats ". . ." in this way <- it's a flavor thing, I usually do ... instead
17:49:55  hi aadenboy
17:50:08  good morning
17:50:13  good evening
17:51:37  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196279&oldid=196278 * Dragoneater67 * (+1) /* Examples */
17:52:36  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196280&oldid=196279 * Dragoneater67 * (+98) /* Computational class */
17:55:10  Yo
17:55:14  hi APic
17:55:16  Celebrate Bureflux! Heil Eris! Alles Heil Discordia!       😇
17:55:21  Hi de67 
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18:08:20  hi Sgeo
18:08:28  Hi
18:14:28  alr
18:14:32  bye guys!
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18:33:18  Good Night         😴
18:49:35  [[Talk:Three Star Programmer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196281&oldid=196169 * Dragoneater67 * (+226) 
19:12:11  [[User:Miui]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196282&oldid=196141 * Miui * (+10) /* miscellany */ update redlink
19:12:15  [[43]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196283&oldid=196280 * Dragoneater67 * (+122) /* Variables */
19:13:07  [[43]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196284&oldid=196283 * Dragoneater67 * (+36) /* Preprocessor */ i frogor abt numbers :3
19:16:33  [[43]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196285&oldid=196284 * Dragoneater67 * (+163) /* XKCD Random Number */ fix
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19:26:32  [[Wheddo]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196287&oldid=196286 * MarkFan8901 * (+0) 
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19:35:02  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196288&oldid=196250 * Blashyrkh * (+111) /* Kolakoski sequence */ Shorter version (80 > 74)
19:36:24  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196289&oldid=196267 * Blashyrkh * (+20) Shorter [[Kolakoski sequence]] @ [[Brainfuck]] (80 > 74)
19:55:41  I'm imagining an "all-you-can-eat" program form where a program is tasked with performing as many interactions as possible with the language
19:57:07  e.g brainfuck would require increment, overflow, decrement, underflow, tape left (and/or wrapping), tape right (and/or wrapping), input of each possible value, output of each possible value, skipping a loop, entering a loop, repeating a loop, and exiting a loop
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20:24:15  [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Craw *  New user account
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20:27:54  [[User:Craw]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196291 * Craw * (+104) Created page with "# Craw  Hello! I am Craw (or "The Craw"), CEO of CRAW SYSTEMS, whose most famous product is Crawssembly."
20:28:18  [[User:Craw]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196292&oldid=196291 * Craw * (+19) 
20:34:04  [[User:Craw]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196293&oldid=196292 * Craw * (+4) 
20:35:43  ^bf .+[.+]-[-][]
20:36:03  ?
20:36:05  fungo
20:36:05  t
20:36:06  fungot
20:36:06  aadenboy: you need to do, or is it just that they aren't designed to mimic c structs.
20:36:16  `bf .+[.+]-[-][]
20:36:19  ​.. \ . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
20:37:36  [[Crawssembly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=196294 * Craw * (+14127) Created page with "{{Infobox proglang |name=Crawssembly |paradigms=Imperative, assembly |author=Jonah Crawford |year=2026 |memsys=Register, random-access memory |dimensions=one-dimensional |class=??? |refimpl=[https://github.com/UltimateCraw/Crawssembly Crawssembly] }}  '''Crawssembly''
20:40:57  [[Crawssembly]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196295&oldid=196294 * Raiseafloppafan7741 * (+74) Categorization and the redlinks at the end
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21:02:04  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf/Code]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196303&oldid=196288 * Blashyrkh * (+4430) Copy [[-]] programs made by me to this page (it's not safe to keep them at talk page anyway). Add [[Looping counter]] example (37 bytes)
21:05:12  shout out to the hangul space filler for not being a whitespace character
21:05:18  `unidecode ㅤ
21:05:21  ​[U+3164 HANGUL FILLER]
21:06:48  [[User:Blashyrkh/Golf]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196304&oldid=196289 * Blashyrkh * (+64) Add [[Looping counter]] @ [[-]] (37 bytes). Links to my [[-]] programs lead to my page with golfing code
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22:04:48  [[Vines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=196313&oldid=195961 * AeroPurple * (+35) /* Interpreters */ Changed goals
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22:47:26  `` ame to primes 5
22:47:29  32
22:47:31  `` ame to primes 0 3
22:47:34  27
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