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00:55:51 <int-e> ...need parameters... incubation period, replication factor, mortality...
00:56:34 <int-e> (what's the technical slang... case fatality rate? something like that)
00:58:32 <oerjan> huh, your graph doesn't suggest any really big increase
00:59:33 <esolangs> [[User:Oshaboy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89906&oldid=87603 * Oshaboy * (+105) /* Interpreters */
01:01:01 <oerjan> maybe they're included in the "without registration time" ones
01:01:55 <oerjan> (is there some kind of consecutively assigned number one could use to test? i suppose first edit, in the worst case)
01:02:53 <fizzie> There weren't all that many of those. `list=allusers` returns a total of 7251 users, out of which 7049 have a set registration time.
01:03:42 <fizzie> The graph was basically just from sorting those 7049 registration times, numbering each line, and then plotting those two columns.
01:05:30 <fizzie> There is a `userid` field as well, those range from 1 to 7252... which I guess means exactly one number is missing, hmm.
01:05:52 <oerjan> heh
01:06:46 <fizzie> Yeah, there's a gap from 5417 to 5419 for some reason.
01:07:15 <fizzie> I remember I ran that mergeuser thing once, maybe that's why.
01:07:46 <int-e> hmm, can we map the jumps to captcha introduction and modifications, I wonder
01:09:08 <fizzie> The git repo where I keep the MediaWiki config file starts from March 2014, which is after the big 2012 thing.
01:10:10 <fizzie> That one had 17 "regular" questions.
01:10:15 <int-e> okay, I'll say "not easily"
01:11:05 <int-e> it's not important anyway... (I mean it's probably possible to figure it out by correlating dates with irc logs, but that'd take effort)
01:12:02 <fizzie> I committed the switch from the question captcha to the Befunge captcha on Sep 4, 2016, which I guess is a little while after that one small bump.
01:16:46 <esolangs> [[Cellbrain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89907&oldid=89883 * Oerjan * (+52) Use wayback
01:19:29 <oerjan> The last spam flood I recall was human driven, so probably not that many separate accounts
01:20:01 <oerjan> (those indians getting paid for registering, or something)
01:21:16 <oerjan> unless you had one last year while i took a break
01:23:00 * oerjan realizes he must have been one of the few people to _reduce_ their internet use during the pandemic
01:37:09 <citrons> bees
01:49:24 <esolangs> [[EsoInterpreters]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89908&oldid=89903 * Oerjan * (+16) Add <references /> to section
01:53:21 <fizzie> I should've done that. But I didn't know how.
01:53:49 <oerjan> well i had to look it up myself
01:54:13 <oerjan> i know the wikipedia template, which doesn't work here
01:54:27 <oerjan> in fact...
01:56:01 <esolangs> [[OrdinalFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89909&oldid=89874 * Oerjan * (+3) /* References */ Needs raw tag
01:56:30 <oerjan> hm except there weren't any on the page
01:56:34 <oerjan> oh well
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03:30:53 <esolangs> [[Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89910&oldid=79778 * Pppery * (+27)
04:27:32 <oerjan> ah Burn, my old nemesis
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12:29:17 <esolangs> [[Pancakes]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89919&oldid=88791 * CatCatDeluxe * (+1) actually use the >= function
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17:05:45 <Taneb> Anyone got any suggestions for things I could ask for Christmas
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17:11:34 <esolangs> [[Among Us]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89921&oldid=88315 * Eutro * (+998) /* Code Examples */
17:19:29 <esolangs> [[++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89922&oldid=88080 * DigitalDetective47 * (+56) /* Examples */ Added infinite loop
17:20:34 <b_jonas> Taneb: I usually don't even know what I want for my christmases and birthdays. I have everything. And what would you give to someone who can just invent anything?
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17:22:30 <shachaf> Taneb: A kitty cat?
17:22:31 <fizzie> https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v12/ -- for a very opinionated gift-giving guide.
17:23:54 <int-e> . o O ( Winning over people for dummies, chapter 0: how not to do it. )
17:24:50 <esolangs> [[Bedtime]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89923&oldid=89821 * PixelatedStarfish * (-1) /* Random Number (1 - 7) */
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17:28:05 <esolangs> [[Bedtime]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89925&oldid=89924 * PixelatedStarfish * (+68) /* The Ellipsis */
17:28:11 <fizzie> We got a Christmas delivery from https://www.scandikitchen.co.uk/ FWIW.
17:28:29 <Taneb> shachaf: I live with two dogs, a kitty cat may be inadvisable
17:29:43 <shachaf> But it may also be advisable.
17:29:57 <shachaf> Kitties cat can get along with pooches.
17:30:10 <esolangs> [[Bedtime]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89926&oldid=89925 * PixelatedStarfish * (+49) /* Syntax */
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19:21:55 <esolangs> [[Vague]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89928&oldid=80290 * VilgotanL * (+177) add js interpreter
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20:50:47 <esolangs> [[Suscript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89931&oldid=88965 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Implementations */ cat
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01:09:18 <esolangs> [[User:DoggyDogWhirl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89938&oldid=89646 * DoggyDogWhirl * (+48) Re-ordered WIP languages based on date
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02:55:49 <oerjan> <shachaf> Kitties cat can get along with pooches. <-- they can also be killed by them hth
02:56:35 <oerjan> (someone in my family had to hide the body of the neighbor's cat after that happened)
02:57:10 <esolangs> [[Talk:]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=89939 * DigitalDetective47 * (+235) /* Ambiguity of Level 8 */ new section
02:57:20 <oerjan> both halves.
02:57:26 <oerjan> </tmi>
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03:02:08 <shachaf> :-(
03:07:36 <oerjan> be careful, is what i'm saying. admittedly this cat hadn't been introduced properly, it accidentally got into the dogs' enclosure iirc
03:10:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Random Number Generator]] to [[Random number generator]]: Bad capitalization
03:10:53 <esolangs> [[Random number generator]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89942&oldid=89940 * Oerjan * (+6) Fix caps
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04:28:00 <esolangs> [[Toddler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89947&oldid=89946 * PixelatedStarfish * (-2) /* A Note on Interpretation */
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12:38:39 <esolangs> [[Talk:]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89952&oldid=89939 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+288) /* Ambiguity of Level 8 */ Thank you for pointing this out
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15:26:29 <esolangs> [[Brainstuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89955&oldid=79066 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+195) Relocated the command set into a section of its own and represented it in tabular form.
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16:21:04 <esolangs> [[Text]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89956&oldid=73701 * Shwayz * (-10) /* Compilers */ update brainfuck compiler for maximum efficiency
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17:50:03 <riv> thinking about how to encode a bitstring to avoid runs of 0s and 1s
17:54:00 <int-e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_length_limited
17:55:49 <Corbin> Also possibly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_Overhead_Byte_Stuffing depending on context.
17:57:57 <FireFly> I think that's the goal of 8b/10b encoding as well
17:58:23 <FireFly> (well, a tradeoff between different goals, that being one of them)
17:59:26 <riv> thank you
18:07:46 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * McDude73 * New user account
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18:17:52 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=89957&oldid=89920 * McDude73 * (+268)
18:19:41 <esolangs> [[User:McDude73]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=89958 * McDude73 * (+86) Created page with "Welcome to the Esolang article of '''McDude73''' ''More information will come soon.''"
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18:50:52 <impomatic> Here's a pic of the esolangs in Carol Vorderman's book which I mentioned a few days ago https://twitter.com/john_metcalf/status/1463211755820265476
18:50:54 <fizzie> Or just encoding each 0 as 01 and each 1 as 10. ;)
18:50:59 <riv> haha
18:51:02 <riv> i like that one
18:51:27 <riv> impomatic: fun!
18:53:48 <fizzie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_code is the name I was failing to recall for that.
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01:06:04 <HackEso> 1/1:108) <CakeProphet> how does a "DNA computer" work. <CakeProphet> von neumann machines? <Phantom_Hoover> CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. <Phantom_Hoover> It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 992) <FreeFull> So a monoid is something like a mon, so for example pikachu is a monoid
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04:49:40 <oerjan> . o O ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ForcePreview )
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08:17:23 <zzo38> I had been trying to figure out something in Hero Hearts (which might be a bug), involving the "ObjLF.Volume+ObjRF.Volume+obj.Volume<=10000" check when objLF and/or objRF do not exist. I tried various numbers to see what would happen, and cannot figure out the pattern (if there is one).
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14:45:40 <riv> I don't know the hero mesh language
14:45:44 <riv> ObjLF.Volume+ObjRF.Volume+obj.Volume<=10000
14:46:03 <riv> what should happen if one or both of these ObjLF, ObjRF, obj do not exist?
14:46:07 <riv> will it default to zero?
14:46:16 <riv> or the entire comparison becomes false
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17:00:20 <HackEso> 1/1:625) <kallisti> interestingly enough it takes about as much time for a person to produce cfunge as it does to create a baby. \ 155) <olsner> DAMN YOU, I'm leaving <Vorpal> olsner, FINALLY NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND WORLD DOMINATION!
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17:06:44 <HackEso> 1/1:879) <Bike> I've heard the manga of Das Kapital is actually pretty good. \ 1274) <Ken M> If we don't study the mistakes of the future we're doomed to repeat them for the first time :(
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17:11:28 <Taneb> ...I'm curious about the Das Kapital manga, I couldn't get into the novel
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18:35:34 <zzo38> riv: Free Hero Mesh currently does default the Volume of nonexistent objects to zero in that comparison, but trying them in the original Hero Mesh engine, this does not seem to be the case (nor does it always make the entire comparison false, or true, nor does it seem to be based solely on the sum of the two existing values).
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19:04:25 <int-e> oh right, AoC is coming up
19:18:08 <zzo38> (I don't know for sure if it is even consistent; maybe it depends on out of bounds memory accesses; I don't know.)
19:20:54 <zzo38> Also, the code "bjLF.Volume+ObjRF.Volume+obj.Volume<=10000" is a pseudocode and is not the actual implementation. I had thought that "ObjLF.Volume" should actually be "VolumeAt(ObjLF.Xloc,ObjLF.Yloc)" (and similarly for ObjRF.Volume, but not for obj.Volume), and this seems to work if both objects exist.
19:22:17 <zzo38> If there are no objects at a location (x,y) (including if (x,y) is out of the bounds of the playfield), then VolumeAt(x,y) is zero, but something else seems to be happening here, and my tests do not make it clear what it is.
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19:59:05 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90002&oldid=89986 * DigitalDetective47 * (+15) /* H */ Added highways
20:11:59 <esolangs> [[Highways]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90003&oldid=90001 * DigitalDetective47 * (-398) /* Signs */ Removed the x sign as it made programs less interesting.
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07:11:59 <esolangs> [[Talk:A programming language is a formal language comprising a set of strings that produce various kinds of machine code output.]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90029 * Oerjan * (+411) Make checklist for future moves
07:12:53 <esolangs> [[Talk:A programming language is a formal language comprising a set of strings that produce various kinds of machine code output.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90030&oldid=90029 * Oerjan * (+26) Include this talk page
07:13:57 <esolangs> [[Talk:A programming language is a formal language comprising a set of strings that produce various kinds of machine code output.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90031&oldid=90030 * Oerjan * (+35) Remember to check incoming links
07:14:54 <oerjan> Hm that talk page itself will add work. Oh well.
07:15:52 <esolangs> [[Talk:A programming language is a formal language comprising a set of strings that produce various kinds of machine code output.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90032&oldid=90031 * Oerjan * (+14) Include talk page here too
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07:19:35 <oerjan> Was there a checklist somewhere else I forgot?
07:23:48 <esolangs> [[Talk:A programming language is a formal language comprising a set of strings that produce various kinds of machine code output.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90033&oldid=90032 * Oerjan * (+112) Of course there was another step
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13:31:06 <esolangs> [[User:Sunarch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90035 * Sunarch * (+43) Initial creation
13:32:41 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90036&oldid=90002 * Sunarch * (+14) Add GridRun
13:34:54 <sunarch> wow, this is a surpisingly public broadcast xd
13:35:36 <sunarch> hi, everyone, I’m new
13:36:01 <int-e> Hi sunarch
13:36:11 <int-e> this channel has public logs too
13:36:35 <int-e> `relcome sunarch
13:36:42 <HackEso> sunarch: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
13:37:25 <sunarch> that’s not an issue, it’s only that I was surprised to get a notification here when I saved my edit on the wiki
13:37:59 <sunarch> that’s colorful:) thanks:)
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14:59:43 <esolangs> [[TISolang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90038&oldid=90037 * McDude73 * (+43) /* Basic idea */
15:04:58 <esolangs> [[TISolang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90039&oldid=90038 * McDude73 * (+111) /* Basic commands */
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15:07:02 <esolangs> [[TISolang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90041&oldid=90040 * McDude73 * (+4) /* Hello, World! */
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18:07:09 <esolangs> [[Highways]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90043&oldid=90021 * DigitalDetective47 * (+48) /* Program structure */ Specifically disallowed trailing newlines.
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19:22:53 <riv> hi
19:28:40 <esolangs> [[Context.js]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90051&oldid=90048 * Johnaweiss * (+566) /* A Better Javascript */
19:30:39 <esolangs> [[Context.js]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90052&oldid=90051 * Johnaweiss * (+28) /* Another Example */
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20:45:19 <esolangs> [[Not a brainfuck derivative]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90054&oldid=32125 * Xradiation * (-131) This page adds nothing, pls delete
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01:12:36 <esolangs> [[2Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90062&oldid=90061 * Squidmanescape * (+44) /* Commands */
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01:30:00 <esolangs> [[User:Squidmanescape/Gray Snail Interpreter Links]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90065&oldid=89902 * Squidmanescape * (+267)
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03:08:41 <esolangs> [[Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90068&oldid=89910 * Oerjan * (+598) This info really should be in the main article
03:18:36 <esolangs> [[Not a brainfuck derivative]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90069&oldid=90054 * Oerjan * (+131) Undo revision 90054 by [[Special:Contributions/Xradiation|Xradiation]] ([[User talk:Xradiation|talk]]) (Not unless you can prove you're the author.)
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06:22:14 <esolangs> [[Tttt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90071&oldid=90070 * Squidmanescape * (+177) /* Implementations */ Now it has comment support.
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08:26:45 <esolangs> [[User:Squidmanescape]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90075&oldid=90060 * Squidmanescape * (+48)
08:39:18 <esolangs> [[2Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90076&oldid=90062 * Squidmanescape * (+219)
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13:41:16 <esolangs> [[Fairytale]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90082 * Doubi * (+5349) Created page with "Fairytale is a programming language where you can write a fairy tale while writing a program. It is greatly insopired by [[Rockstar]]. This article is still work in progress...."
13:41:46 <esolangs> [[Works in progress]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90083&oldid=89873 * Doubi * (+16)
13:42:13 <esolangs> [[Fairytale]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90084&oldid=90082 * Doubi * (-1)
13:45:59 <esolangs> [[Muppp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90085&oldid=89771 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+162) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Muppp programming language on GitHub.
13:49:41 <esolangs> [[Muppp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90086&oldid=90085 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+180) Substituted the incorrectly operating truth-machine example with a functioning one, and added an infinitely repeating cat program.
13:56:51 <esolangs> [[Muppp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90087&oldid=90086 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+415) Extended the explanatory text segments, capitalized one occurrence of ascii to ASCII, and terminated a sentence with a dot.
14:15:33 <esolangs> [[Fairytale]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90088&oldid=90084 * Doubi * (+93)
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15:37:49 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90089&oldid=90081 * KSP Atlas * (+146)
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16:13:47 <riv> what is nbzwsp?
16:16:52 <int-e> non-break zero-width space
16:17:39 <riv> do you like it?
16:18:13 <int-e> `? it
16:18:17 <HackEso> It would have been certainly so, but `8ball refused to coöperate.
16:18:27 <riv> `? nbzwsp
16:18:29 <HackEso> nbzwsp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
16:18:52 <int-e> `' like it
16:18:53 <HackEso> 884) <elliott> okay so <elliott> i went to wikimapia per Bike <elliott> and found a tiny little nowhere that looked like it might be it <elliott> zoomed in <elliott> thought aw yeah this looks remote maybe it's it <elliott> turns out it's hawaii <elliott> i am not very good at this
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16:44:32 <riv> did you know that 2024 is a leap year, so we will be going 2022, 2023, straight on to 2025
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17:26:18 <fizzie> I can't keep track of the subtleties between ZERO WIDTH {SPACE,NO-BREAK SPACE,JOINER,NON-JOINER}.
17:27:26 <fizzie> https://www.unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#BOM says "The use of U+2060 WORD JOINER is strongly preferred over ZWNBSP for expressing word joining semantics since it cannot be confused with a BOM" so that's a related one as well then.
17:27:50 <Kit> what
17:28:17 <Kit> i hate unicode but i also love them
17:29:32 <int-e> time to bring out the crazy knights: 🨄🨈🨙🨝🨮🨲🩃🩇
17:29:40 <esolangs> [[Annoying Alice 2D]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90090&oldid=56527 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+6) Amended some orthographic mistakes and removed HTML linebreaks.
17:33:26 <int-e> `' invisible
17:33:27 <HackEso> 35) <ehird> With enough crappiness a display can show you invisible pink unicorns. \ 990) <fizzie> "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.)
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17:37:10 <riv> hahahaha
17:40:49 <b_jonas> `olist 1249
17:40:50 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1249.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
17:47:18 <int-e> `unidecode ­⁢⁣⁤
17:47:19 <HackEso> ​[U+00AD SOFT HYPHEN] [U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES] [U+2063 INVISIBLE SEPARATOR] [U+2064 INVISIBLE PLUS]
17:53:58 <int-e> (now which has higher precedence, U+2062 or U+2064)
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18:52:23 <zzo38> I also don't like Unicode, so the program I make are design to not use Unicode (instead can using other methods for writing multilingual texts; however, some programs will not care about the character encoding)
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18:56:46 <blu256> what's bad about unicode?
18:58:09 <riv> ASCII is good
18:58:18 <riv> 7 bits are enough for everyone
18:59:43 <blu256> ASCII is good enough for english
19:04:56 <zzo38> There are many problems. For one thing, no single encoding or character set can ever be suitable for all purposes. Also there is the Han unification, and other decisions, that might be suitable for some applications but are otherwise very bad, and Unicode is also full of messy things. Writing text in foreign languages is OK as long as I don't have to use a Unicode to do it.
19:07:31 <blu256> Sure enough there are problems, but it is a better approach than, say, codepages.
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19:11:31 <riv> https://tech.marksblogg.com/fastest-fizz-buzz.html
19:11:41 <zzo38> I disagree, and think that which approaches can be better can depend on applications. (Maybe, I should make up "international text dealing library" without Unicode.)
19:12:41 <zzo38> (TRON has advantages and disadvantages over Unicode, but they made it worse by just dumping Unicode in there instead of doing it properly.)
19:16:26 <zzo38> I do mainly use the code pages. Currently Free Hero Mesh can only use code pages of 8-bit characters, although I do intend later might also add possibility of other kinds too such as EUC-JP, etc.
19:17:56 <blu256> sorry, but what is Free Hero Mesh?
19:18:17 <zzo38> It is a puzzle game engine; there is a IRC channel #freeheromesh on Libera (this IRC server).
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19:19:19 <blu256> I'm actually new to this channel
19:21:16 <zzo38> riv: Unfortunately I do not seem to have permissions. (I had to ask someone else to create that page, although I was able to write it myself and preview it, and ask someone else to actually put it in)
19:21:54 <zzo38> The category (as in mathematical category theory) of code page conversions can be possible, each conversion also a nonnegative penalty number. Some conversions might lose character properties even if the characters themself can be converted, and might also add or lose ambiguity. This is true also in the case of Unicode, too.
19:22:12 <riv> `relcome blu256
19:22:14 <HackEso> blu256: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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20:47:41 <esolangs> [[Duh]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90095 * ~blu256 * (+2512) Added the "duh" esolang + link to interpreter source on GitHub
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23:02:52 <b_jonas> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/everything => what if you buy one, then remove every topping that doesn't include itself?
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02:33:05 <esolangs> [[Esolang talk:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90120&oldid=89872 * ProjectEuler * (+213)
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03:13:36 <esolangs> [[Timers]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90127&oldid=89632 * Rphii * (+0) change ` to ! in numbers
04:12:06 <esolangs> [[User:ProjectEuler]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90128 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+925) Chart
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04:44:01 <esolangs> [[(top, height)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90131&oldid=90126 * Squidmanescape * (+178) Fixed Version Number, Explained Versions
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05:23:10 <oerjan> <riv> https://tech.marksblogg.com/fastest-fizz-buzz.html <-- "I've been unable to uncover this person's real-life identity" hah
05:23:47 <riv> GNU yes was mentioned
05:24:01 <riv> printing y in a loop was considered not fast enough
05:25:54 <oerjan> admittedly i'm not sure how easy his real name is to find if you're not in one of those places he has revealed it.
05:26:21 <oerjan> but then i'm biased, i managed to find his _middle_ name.
05:28:32 <riv> I always wondered what the I stands for
05:30:30 <oerjan> iirc it was listed in the UK olympics maths team list, and on wikipedia when he had a page there
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05:37:48 <oerjan> heh the wikipedia info is still there, if you know how to look
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05:52:16 <esolangs> [[FizzBuzz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90133&oldid=89493 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+97) /* See also */
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06:19:56 <esolangs> [[Fibonacci sequence]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90143&oldid=66688 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+121) See also
06:20:06 <esolangs> [[Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90144&oldid=90068 * Ais523 * (+2117) some other things I remember about Burn
06:20:10 <oerjan> ooh
06:22:51 <oerjan> i'd already guessed the 00 part
06:23:14 <riv> wow
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06:23:32 <ais523> you're welcome
06:23:49 <ais523> some of it is pretty obvious, but stating the obvious is helpful when it comes to esolangs because they sometimes avoid it
06:25:08 <ais523> there were some very strange guesses on the talk page
06:25:54 <ais523> oh, and there was no I/O, I should probably mention that too
06:26:27 <oerjan> yes, it seemed like no one took the 2d CA info completely seriously
06:26:35 <esolangs> [[Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90145&oldid=90144 * Ais523 * (+46) +no IO cat
06:26:54 <oerjan> i've been thinking about it, and also thinking that the 1-color containing parts looked like wires
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06:27:57 <oerjan> although my main intuition has been to take the _name_ of the language seriously... what you call flood fill i've been thinking of as burning fuel
06:29:13 <oerjan> and 0 as perhaps the absense of fuel
06:29:48 <esolangs> [[Project Euler/5]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90146 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+816) Created page with
06:31:09 <ais523> btw, ColorfulGalaxy went and created a separate username so that they could create Project Euler spaces in that user's userspace (which is dubious enough as it is), and is now creating them in mainspace anyway for some reason
06:32:04 <riv> http://cheddarmonk.org/papers/laver.pdf
06:34:24 <ais523> (also, Guy Fawkes Rep was obviously ColorfulGalaxy, right? I haven't checked, but it was obvious just based on behaviour and on ColorfulGalaxy getting caught up in the resulting autoblock)
06:34:26 <oerjan> laver was discussed here some years ago
06:34:45 <oerjan> ais523: i suspected but didn't bother to bother
06:35:56 <oerjan> i wasn't sure whether ColorfulGalaxy actually got blocked or just pretended as part of their game, but after that it seemed obvious they were just having fun
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06:38:55 <oerjan> although if they're one person, and _expected_ to be blocked and to get hit by the autoblock, then it would explain Guy Fawkes Rep's last pre-blocking message
06:41:48 <oerjan> in some strange, crazy way.
06:42:44 * oerjan is confused by seeing a math paper on a darths & droids (fan) site
06:57:50 <esolangs> [[Project Euler/6]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=90147 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+1988) Created page with
06:59:35 <ais523> I think someone who'd been blocked that much would have an intuitive idea of how the autoblocker worked, even if some of the details were wrong
07:03:43 <riv> lol
07:03:54 <riv> what is a cheddar monk
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07:06:30 <oerjan> riv: see darths & droids webcomic
07:06:40 <riv> i had alook
07:06:53 <oerjan> i haven't followed it in a while, though
07:06:57 <riv> it was a rhetorical question though
07:07:02 <oerjan> okay
07:08:02 <esolangs> [[Aheui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90150&oldid=89788 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+454) More code
07:33:42 <riv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvhSRCfCHb4 fun game
08:01:50 <oerjan> ais523: "or maybe only ever increase, but decreasing seems more likely" <-- i'm going to disagree based on the simple observation that decreasing + 00 = unchangeable would make it impossible to have flood fill along 01 or 10 paths.
08:03:26 <oerjan> unless, hm, i suppose if 01/10 -> 00 if its number of non-00 neighbors _decrease_
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08:06:41 <oerjan> although that violates _my_ intuition of what the language does, it may not violate what you've said.
08:08:34 <ais523> I think it was probably only ever decreasing
08:08:45 <ais523> but it's hard to be confident about something I created in my head over 10 years ago without writing down any details
08:09:54 <ais523> but, hmm, maybe it does increase?
08:10:11 <ais523> perhaps I should have tried harder to remember / work out the details at the time
08:10:38 <ais523> fwiw, the modification date on the file containing that program is Aug 9 2006
08:10:46 <ais523> so over 15 years ago now
08:10:57 <ais523> (and it's the only thing in the directory)
08:12:56 <oerjan> that's not very long after i got here
08:13:17 <oerjan> 2006 was a good year for the channel
08:14:15 <oerjan> if it actually _is_ only decreasing, it may simplify things because it reduces the number of things that can happen with those 01 and 10 cells
08:18:37 <ais523> you've really shaken my confidence now, I'm seriously considering the possibility that it's only increasing, and that could make more sense
08:18:47 <oerjan> another obvious thing given what it's supposed to compute: the program code given is probably a stable configuration that doesn't change without some kind of signal coming in.
08:19:11 <ais523> right, in order for anything to happen you'd have to disrupt the tiling slightly (which I mentioned in my original set of hints)
08:19:46 <ais523> rule 110 has 000 → 0 so a tiling of 0s would be stable
08:19:57 <oerjan> my guess is that what is disrupted, is the one non-00 cell at the top line
08:20:04 <ais523> yes, that makes sense to me too
08:20:30 <ais523> ooh… I don't think a channel value could change "past" the value of its neighbours, I'll add that to the list
08:20:41 <oerjan> huh
08:21:16 <ais523> as in, any change would be to a value that was within the range of values that existed in its neighbours
08:21:26 <oerjan> i see
08:21:44 <oerjan> well you pretty much always have 0s nearby
08:22:21 <esolangs> [[Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90152&oldid=90145 * Ais523 * (+266) another thing I remembered
08:22:37 <ais523> I'm trying to remember whether or not 0 was a special case, but I can't remember
08:23:39 <ais523> the fact that I mentioned "levels 0-3" in a comment implies that they may have been configurable…
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09:42:25 <riv> https://simonsapin.github.io/wtf-8/
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12:39:40 <int-e> fungot: what's a happy life?
12:39:40 <fungot> int-e: that,, i honestly do not know, the ncs. co-operation between the canadian government, the uk has a very proud day for him,
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17:20:46 <b_jonas> "<oerjan> admittedly i'm not sure how easy his real name is to find if you're not in one of those places he has revealed it." => I think the channel log has a link to ais523's thesis, and to fizzie's and shachaf's, but they're not easy to find
17:24:41 <riv> what's fizzies on ?
17:25:02 <fizzie> It's titled "Feature Enhancement and Uncertainty Estimation for Recognition of Noisy and Reverberant Speech".
17:25:30 <fizzie> (I was doing speech recognition things.)
17:30:16 <b_jonas> the nethack4 and clc-intercal source code repositories give ais523's other name
17:30:47 <b_jonas> so does the ayacc source code
17:30:48 <int-e> . o O ( speech recognition for echo chambers )
17:31:31 <b_jonas> but I think I only saw ais523's middle name in his thesis
17:31:32 <fizzie> We had a pretty nice anechoic chamber at the university, it was fun to visit.
17:32:17 <fizzie> Felt weird. You couldn't really hear people well if they were talking away from you.
17:44:22 <b_jonas> "ARM CPUs, like those found in newer Apple computers, Smartphones or Raspberry Pis, won't support AVX2." hehe (still from https://tech.marksblogg.com/fastest-fizz-buzz.html)
17:45:08 <b_jonas> that's the case when the kernel will just refuse to load the program though, not when you get a mysterious undefined behavior or hopefully an illegal instruction fault from AVX2
17:45:34 <b_jonas> "You should see "sse2" at a minimum." => umm....
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17:47:47 <ais523> that blog post is terrible, it doesn't seem to show any understanding of the material it's covering
17:48:08 <ais523> much of it is just paraphrases of what I said, there's no detail on the interesting bits, and most of the new material is outright wrong
17:48:47 <ais523> (e.g. it doesn't seem to realise that AVX is newer than / subsumes the SSE family)
17:49:31 <b_jonas> yeah
17:51:52 <ais523> fwiw, I feel like AVX1 on %xmm registers only is a good choice for general-purpose vector programming (AVX2 is better for very high performance when you want big vectorised loops, but AVX1 instructions have very little cost to them so you can just scatter them around a program when they're useful rather than really needing to dedicate your program to them)
17:53:21 <esolangs> [[Muppp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90166&oldid=90087 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+433) Adjusted the capitalization of the section title Example programs and added an EBNF description of the language.
17:54:09 <b_jonas> ais523: yes, RDX and kin are called "general purpose" registers only for legacy reasons, same way as two-byte blocks are called "words" in the intel manual. in reality, XMM0 and kin are the general purpose registers, RDX and kin are index registers.
17:54:54 <b_jonas> with SSE4_2 and AVX, we have enough nice instructions on the XMM registers that you can do most calculations in them conveniently
17:55:40 <ais523> I've seriously wondered about what it would be like to habitually compile all code with vector registers (using scatter/gather instructions to do memory access, as they take the address from a vector register)
17:55:54 <ais523> if you do that you end up with a model very similar to that of GPU programming
17:56:17 <b_jonas> there's still the problem that the ABI relies on the index registers a lot: arguments are usually passed there, and some of them are callee-saved
17:56:29 <ais523> where you get small amounts of parallelism for free, but the situation with conditionals is pretty akin to INTERCAL
17:56:43 <ais523> I hate the existing ABI anyway :-D
17:56:48 <b_jonas> ais523: well there's still a bunch of utility instructions that operate on index registers, even after scatter-gather, so you can't just ignore them
17:57:34 <ais523> I think that having a fixed ABI should only be useful for special cases, and compilers should instead pick an ABI on a function-by-function basis
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