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09:55:20 <dbc> Just trying to make things a little more interesting. Think it'll work if I do it more slowly?
09:55:55 <dbc> Well, may as well try. Please don't interrupt.
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09:59:01 <fizzie> printed with a befunge prog or something? I recall seeing a sierpinski-triangle-printer once.
10:09:59 <dbc> That one is NYYRIKKI's brainfuck version.
10:12:04 <fizzie> ah, re befunge, just wrote an interpreter with forth. so our unofficial befunge-interpreters-in-obsolete-but-non-esoteric-languages project now has forth, fortran-77, algol-60, plus few less interesting ones. maybe should do cobol next.
10:12:47 <dbc> I've just translated a much less well-known fractal though. Again please don't interrupt...(and sorry for monopolizing the channel...this should be the last...)
10:13:12 <lament> fizzie: go to #forth and say it's obsolete, i dare you
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10:17:58 <dbc> (Actually that probably needs, at the least, a change of font to look good...)
10:18:37 <lament> you don't know what font i'm using :)
10:19:14 <dbc> Are you using one as wide as it is high?
10:19:57 <lament> what fractal is that, anyway?
10:20:02 <dbc> I had suspected not. People don't usually. Still I left the "probably" there as a weasel word.
10:20:46 <dbc> That's the result of a Fredkin rule cellular automaton (one that sets each cell to the parity of its neighbors)...
10:21:40 <dbc> eight neighbors, starting condition only one cell turned on...this is I think after 32 iterations.
10:22:19 <lament> hm, there doesn't seem to be a mandelbrot generator in brainfuck
10:23:18 <dbc> Well, it can also be constructed like the koch snowflake etc, by repeatedly replacing a certain pattern of lines with another one...
10:23:34 <dbc> though the parts come out at different speeds with that method.
10:32:28 <dbc> Good luck on that project, anyway...
10:38:47 <lament> besides, i have a magic brainfuck preprocessor
10:38:54 <dbc> Oh christ.
10:40:28 <lament> all i need is a good representation for fractional numbers.
10:44:06 <lament> i searched google for 'imaginary numbers'
10:44:21 <lament> the very first result is some page in the university of toronto
10:44:27 <lament> 'Do "Imaginary Numbers" Really Exist?'
10:44:39 <lament> and they give a long answer to that
10:44:48 <lament> which includes "Imaginary numbers do exist."
10:45:04 <lament> Jesus christ, it's the leading canadian university
10:45:12 <lament> And they're saying imaginary numbers exist :\
10:46:00 <lament> and they're using an extremely broken argument to prove their 'existance'
11:00:42 <dbc> I'm not sure the question is even well-defined.
11:01:29 <lament> I would be terrified to find out numbers actually existed.
11:01:41 <dbc> Why? They don't have teeth.
11:01:51 <lament> dbc: only because they don't exist!
11:02:53 <lament> Stupid fractional numbers.
11:03:29 <dbc> You can keep them as numerator and denominator, no?
11:03:31 <lament> They don't exist either, but they sure are stupid.
11:04:44 <lament> problematic on 8-bit brainfuck machines.
11:05:15 <dbc> well, you can keep both numerator and denominator as strings of binary or decimal digits, one per cell. Probably faster anyway.
11:06:17 <lament> I think I just suck at brainfuck.
11:07:25 <dbc> Oh. That would be unfortunate.
11:07:45 <dbc> Does brainfuck exist?
11:09:15 <lament> no, but it seems to have teeth anyway.
11:13:59 <lament> that looks like a Dr. Seuss character.
11:14:25 <dbc> Self-portrait. There's another on my web page now.
11:15:10 <lament> You look like a Dr. Seuss character? Cool
11:15:39 <dbc> (which is the 22nd google response for "brainfuck")
11:16:28 <dbc> (must depart)
11:23:29 <fizzie> according to googlism, 'brainfuck is not sexy', 'brainfuck is the ultimate sexual experience', 'brainfuck is too obviously evil', 'brainfuck is too obviously evil' and 'brainfuck is now'.
11:28:10 <fizzie> googlism.com, which has recently acquired annoying popups. you give it a word or two, and it searches google and returns 'foo is bar'-style sentences.
11:28:40 <fizzie> according to googlism, I personally am "60 mm in diameter and each weighs over 5 oz"
11:32:36 <lament> "lament is the cheat and a dirty bastard"
11:33:09 <lament> "lament is that we put undergraduates through three years of lecture"
11:33:37 <lament> "brainfuck is better than"
11:58:51 <dbc> Have a look at the responses for "bush".
11:59:28 <dbc> bush is engaged in feverish diplomacy to stop an india
11:59:40 <dbc> bush is glad
12:00:11 <lament> I like how the first 4 responses are inflammatory.
12:00:49 <dbc> bush is the
12:01:08 <lament> "bush is also a member of the illuminist"
12:01:22 <lament> "bush is winning god still blesses america
12:01:44 <lament> "bush is doomed to fail if he doesn't cut off financing of terrorists"
12:02:53 <dbc> I like the ones that aren't complete sentences best :/
12:06:10 <dbc> "googlism is"
12:06:19 <dbc> "googlism is working now"
12:06:24 <dbc> (that's the complete list)
13:46:08 <Taaus> I'm negative, apparently... :o
13:46:18 <Taaus> 'taus is less than 0'
13:46:56 <Taaus> 'taus is my favorite actress and singer' o_O
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13:49:37 <lament> 'esoteric cheese' sounds better than 'esoteric programming'.
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21:25:38 <exarkun> This is the boringest channel evar
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22:43:02 <dbc> I've seen worse.