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03:27:08 <Taaus> Power to the peephole!
03:27:23 <andreou> of course, http://www.sysadminday.com
03:27:33 <andreou> power to the sysadmin, to hell with the people.
03:28:36 <andreou> HATE HATE SYSAD@$%!$%!#$!@#$@#NO CARRIER
03:30:26 * Taaus goes back to mutilating TinyScheme
03:32:48 <lament> Redundantly tiny scheme!
03:33:07 <andreou> tinyscheme? isn't this that greek whacko's implementation?
03:33:26 <Taaus> 'Greek whacko'? Isn't that a bit... Pleonasmic?
03:34:37 <Taaus> But to answer your question, 'yes'.
03:34:39 <andreou> no, there are two types of greeks
03:34:58 <andreou> The kafroi (plural of kafros, pronounced kAh-free)
03:35:11 <andreou> and the mourloi (mOO-rleeh)
03:35:23 <Taaus> How about the hoi polloi? :)
03:35:46 <andreou> oi polloi (the many) are of no interest discussing. just simpletons.
03:36:24 <andreou> there is an increasing number of simpletons turning kafroi, tho
03:36:42 * Taaus smiles and nods, smiles and nods
03:37:26 <andreou> you know about greeks, taaus?
03:37:38 <Taaus> Hence my fervent smiling and nodding.
03:38:19 <Taaus> I don't expect other people to know about Danes, either ;)
03:38:50 <andreou> danes are not as interesting as greeks (profound display of lack of knowledge about danes)
03:39:19 <Taaus> Teehee. You're probably right ;)
03:45:25 <andreou> http://sysadminday.safeweb.be/Photos1/pMark_Sewage_P6060002.JPG
03:47:01 <andreou> http://sysadminday.safeweb.be/Photos1/pMaxim_Fire_Rack.jpg
03:47:15 <andreou> anyway have a look at allof them at /Photo1.htm
03:47:25 <Taaus> Those switches really _do_ get hot, you know... ;P
03:48:27 <andreou> i'm hoping one day i'll turn a rack full of cisco hardware into a rack full of cisco meltware.
03:49:34 <Taaus> A worthwhile goal, to be sure.
04:04:37 <andreou> i'm going on vacation in a week and need a good book suggestion. not technical.
04:04:54 <Taaus> Hmm... How about some PKD novels? :)
04:05:12 <Taaus> Or something by Hofstadter.
04:06:58 <andreou> which one b hofstadter? i've (read) GEB:EGB and Fluid Concepts
04:07:12 <andreou> FCACA is not a vacation/relaxation book.
04:07:40 <Taaus> Hmm... Metamagical Themas is good. So is The Mind's I.
04:07:53 <Taaus> (The latter is co-edited with Daniel C. Dennett)
04:08:18 <andreou> any suggestioins for pkd? never read any
04:09:11 <lament> i'm struggling through GEB
04:09:18 <lament> I can't force myself to read it
04:09:31 <Taaus> Hmm... Not sure, really. I thoroughly enjoyed his short stories. There are five books with PKD short stories.
04:14:06 <Taaus> andreou: There's also a single book containing 3 of his early novels. 'The Man Who Japed', 'Dr. Futurity' and 'Vulcan's Hammer'. Especially Dr. Futurity was enjoyable.
04:14:49 <lament> andreou: Just get the cyberiad.
04:15:12 <Taaus> That sounds like Lem. I still need to read some of his stuff :/
04:15:17 <andreou> i'll see how fast i can order.
04:15:55 <lament> cyberiad is the second best book on anything for the layman.
04:17:16 <lament> It's a bunch of fairy tales.
04:21:34 <Taaus> I'm going to bed. Good night, all.
04:23:25 <andreou> "I liken starting one's computing career with Unix, say as an undergraduate, to being born in East Africa. It is intolerably hot, your body is covered with lice and flies, you are malnourished and you suffer from numerous curable diseases. But, as far as young East Africans can tell, this is simply the natural condition and they live within it. By the time they find out differently, it is too late. They already think that the writing of shell scripts is
04:23:46 <Taaus> Heh... Looking at the Unix Hater's Handbook?
04:24:33 <andreou> who only recently started learning and working with unix
04:24:49 <andreou> fortunately he is now solaris installation engineer at the 2004 olympics athens data center ;p
04:25:02 <andreou> he's learning perl and he's happy he watches his knowledge well change
04:25:32 <andreou> well, if i direct him to the UHH he'll start shouting at me ``what kind of the worst lamer has written that piece of trinary shit''
04:25:52 <andreou> in ten years, he'll be cursing solaris, in twenty years he'll be writing the second editioin of UHH
04:26:01 <andreou> isn't exquisite what unix can do to a man?
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04:35:46 <dbc> (cruel world)
04:36:53 <andreou> Taaus you got any pdf versions of uhh?
04:37:16 <Taaus> http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html
04:38:04 <andreou> So no, it's not a Microsoft conspiracy. :)
04:38:21 <Taaus> That's what they _claim_.
04:38:34 <dbc> Haven't been working any more on that mystery file; instead I've been shortening dbfi.b because this guy wants to write an article on it.
04:44:14 <dbc> Unix-Gator's Handbook?
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07:09:30 <lament> wow, today's log is big.
07:09:39 <lament> All they yesterday's stuff is on there :)
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09:12:16 <dbc> "One of the benefits of leaving regulation of this matter to the people rather than to the courts is that the people, unlike judges, need not carry things to their logical conclusion."
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12:20:43 <andreou> anyone has halflife/counterstrike serial or keygen?
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15:02:09 <Taaus> Power to the poplar!
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