00:39:41 <calamari_> have you heard from chris pressey lately?
00:39:58 <andreou> nah, i haven't been paying close attention to the lists
00:40:18 <calamari_> he hasn't posted in a long time and his webpage is down
00:40:50 <calamari_> ahh maybe thats where I went wrong.. posted on lang
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00:42:06 <calamari_> well .. found out that my expr1<expr2 was all messed up.. several algorithms later I made something that not only worked for < but > <= and >=.. I was excited :) ran it through all 65536 combos to make sure each one was perfect
00:43:37 <calamari_> I'm hoping a better bf coder will go through my source and tighten things up
00:44:44 <calamari_> just 4 things left and I'm "done": FOR, SELECT CASE, PRINT ; and -expr
00:45:58 <andreou> no, don't do it in java...
00:46:18 <calamari_> why not? java is a great language to get things done in
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00:46:40 <lament> nobody bothers changing the topic here :(
00:46:54 <andreou> lament: just got back from celebrating bureflux? :)
00:47:13 <lament> no, i was here, but i don't bother either :)
00:47:21 <calamari_> andreou: its gpl so you can write the c port if you really want to ;)
00:49:16 <andreou> heh i plan on getting involved again in two weeks; most things are in a state of turmoil around here right now :(
00:49:17 <calamari_> basic and java have such nice string functions.. and I'm not constantly worrying about pointers or memory.
00:49:27 <andreou> and i have to check the dmoz category too
00:49:40 <andreou> well, you could do it in python...
00:49:56 <lament> that wouldn't be fucked up enough
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00:50:52 <calamari_> java is also fairly portable.. my previous version was in microsoft basic for ms-dos..not very portable
00:50:58 <andreou> people, greet steve... steve is a neophyte brainfuck programmer who wants to extend it :)
00:51:27 <lament> hi steve, we'll cure you!@
00:51:41 <andreou> so we all need to make him BELIEVE that it's bad to extend brainfuck :)
00:51:43 <lament> wanting to extend brainfuck is a nasty disease that most people go through.
00:52:01 <calamari_> andreou i'm not a good role model for that.. I like to add @ for exit :)
00:52:12 <andreou> calamari_ we have EOF for exit :)
00:52:24 <calamari_> my calculator doesn't understand eof
00:52:26 <stevaras> actuallu i think it could be better if it could manage fd
00:52:31 <calamari_> but it gets along with @ just fine
00:52:32 <andreou> calamari_ what calculator...
00:53:11 <calamari_> it actually uses numbers.. there isn't a number -> char function :)
00:53:44 <andreou> yeah, i more-or-less know... i was coding in hp basic for the 40g some time ago
00:54:23 <andreou> oh, in comp.sys.hp48 there was an interesting thread in which two brainfuck compilers/interpreters crept up... i meant to summarize it and send it over to lang@ and fob
00:54:29 <calamari_> andreou: http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/impl/interp/calculator/casiobf.txt
00:54:46 <andreou> stevaras at that time i was too proud to cheat
00:55:10 <andreou> calamari_ you have a hp48?
00:55:13 <stevaras> can some1 tell me why o love brainfuck ?
00:55:38 <andreou> calamari_ indeed... i have the 49g, and just adore it. and the 48 is even better
00:56:08 <andreou> stevaras that's technically impossible, i've already told you that
00:56:13 <calamari_> I would have learned the asm for the calc, but I was afraid if I did I would fail my calculus class again so I forced myself not to
00:56:28 <andreou> you code in sysrpl i presume...
00:56:56 <andreou> you really should move over to sysrpl, it's really fun and follows the userrpl paradigm
00:57:27 <calamari_> if I was going for it I'd go all the way w/ pure asm.. more speed, more fun
00:57:31 <andreou> get rplman from hpcalc.org and you should be a sysrpl coder in about four or five hours
00:57:55 <andreou> sure, but sometimes ML introduces unnecessary programming overhead
00:58:20 <andreou> and most of the times to do something usefull you result in using GOSBVLs to supported entry points, i.e. SysRPL commands
00:59:05 <andreou> stevaras shut up you show-off, you don't have an sgi yet :)
00:59:20 <stevaras> i was just asking stinky greekhead
00:59:32 <calamari_> also did a ti82 version.. that was the calc that I played with instead of studying ;)
00:59:59 <andreou> calamari_ eh, ticalc question... are they z80 based or 68k-based?
01:00:21 <stevaras> brainfuck env under sgi environment
01:00:21 <stevaras> brainfuck d.kit under sgi environment
01:00:24 <andreou> ah? i'm sure it's one of the two
01:00:35 <lament> andreou: models up to 86 are z80
01:00:46 <andreou> ah and 89 and 92 are 68k ,i see
01:00:48 <lament> the higher ones are 68k
01:00:51 <calamari_> oh nm.. I was thinking hp I guess, saturn iirc
01:02:20 <andreou> calamari_ you're jeff johnson?
01:02:35 <calamari_> I was working on a hp 41cx version but got discouraged when I realized there wasn't enough ram for hello world
01:04:03 <calamari_> I don't recognize many names anymore, what are you famous for on the list?
01:05:19 <andreou> heh bf golf... i have to solve the rest of the challenges
01:05:24 <andreou> how many are there, three in total?
01:05:49 <lament> it's probably time for a new bfgolf contest
01:06:06 <lament> as the last one was almost a year ago :)
01:06:09 <andreou> oh by the way, most of you will have a hell of a time in www.research.ibm.com/ponder
01:06:15 <andreou> most of the puzzles are real fun
01:06:22 <lament> any ideas on the golf challenge?
01:07:19 <andreou> heh will ponder on the subject
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