< 1083287630 0 :andreou!~peace@ppp6.ee.teiath.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1083288995 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"palace." < 1083292466 0 :andreou!~peace@ppp5.ee.teiath.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1083293399 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :andreou_ < 1083293419 0 :andreou_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :andreou < 1083295988 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1083296007 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 < 1083296007 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 000 00000 00000 00000 000 < 1083296007 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 0 000 0 000 0 000 0 00 < 1083296007 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 000 0000 0000 000 00 < 1083296007 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 000 0 0 0000 0000 0 0 000 < 1083296009 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 00000 000000000 00000 00 < 1083296019 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 000 00 0 0 0000000 0 0 00 000 00 < 1083296019 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 000000000 0 0000000 0 000000000 < 1083296019 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 0000 0 0 0 000 000 0 0 0 0000 00 < 1083296019 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 0000 00000 00 00 00000 0000 00 < 1083296019 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 000 < 1083296021 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 00000 0 0 0 0 00000 00 < 1083296030 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 < 1083296030 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 000 000000000 000000000 000 00 < 1083296030 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 000 < 1083296030 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 < 1083296031 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 0 00 00 0 0 00 00 0 000 < 1083296033 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 000 00000 0 00000 000 00 < 1083296046 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 < 1083296046 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 00000 0 0 0 0 00000 00 < 1083296046 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 000 < 1083296046 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 000 000000000 000 00 < 1083296046 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 0 00 0 0 00 0 00 < 1083296047 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 000 000 0 0 000 000 < 1083296049 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 00 00 0 0 00 00 < 1083296058 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 < 1083296059 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 < 1083296059 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 < 1083296059 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 0 < 1083296061 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 000000000 < 1083296067 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a nice mushroom. < 1083296085 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if I can't eat it :) < 1083296091 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks the screen < 1083297781 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hallucinations just stopped. < 1083297784 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please paste another one! < 1083301185 0 :lament!~lament@S0106000d3a705704.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1083301560 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@dan0612.urh.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1083304470 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long, evil lurkers. < 1083304471 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"q?" < 1083308828 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Operation timed out < 1083308884 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@dan0612.urh.uiuc.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1083309940 0 :andreou!~peace@ppp5.ee.teiath.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1083310346 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1083310370 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: compiled unlambda to c yet? :) < 1083310379 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bedankt < 1083310396 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1083310402 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, world. just got back from a shower and i'm a bit sleepy and smooth. peaceful and tranquil... < 1083310416 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andreou: BOO! < 1083310424 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels andreou < 1083310428 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: via scheme or for real? < 1083310431 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, youa re smooth < 1083310434 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament :-) try harder, i'm *really* tranquil. < 1083310441 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink yeah go down on me. < 1083310443 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals andreou's coffee < 1083310443 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :em < 1083310445 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: via scheme < 1083310447 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, wrong window. < 1083310449 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you shall be tranquil forever! < 1083310460 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHA < 1083310464 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament i don't drink coffee. yeah, i know, that's weird, but i don't. < 1083310472 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you, a freak? < 1083310483 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. don't you know? RHDNC. < 1083310483 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you drink tea? < 1083310495 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, earl grey, lipton and a green chinese brand. < 1083310506 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teabags? < 1083310510 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rarely, only when i'm smoking < 1083310516 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, mostly. < 1083310517 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google gives one hit for rhdnc < 1083310517 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, scheme can be compiled to assembly, but it's already been done < 1083310526 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had coffee in a long time either < 1083310534 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: The compiler itself is Scheme too? < 1083310535 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earl Grey, Rooibos, and Jasmine < 1083310538 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes < 1083310547 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to publish it? < 1083310558 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can put it on the web if you'd like < 1083310575 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament "real hackers don't need coffee" heh < 1083310585 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite small < 1083310590 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first ever, isn't it < 1083310603 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1083310604 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andreou: yeah, they produce their own caffeine < 1083310626 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is spreading new legends < 1083310637 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: i think it's rather neat that it can be done at all :) < 1083310653 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, thanks < 1083310654 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and tea in teabags is the devil. It's even worse than instant coffee. < 1083310660 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played with unlambda much? < 1083310672 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically wood shavings, painted brown, with added artificial flavours. < 1083310684 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament i am a sinister creation, what can i say... < 1083310689 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: no, not really < 1083310692 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would anyone need to paint wood shavings brown? < 1083310700 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark brown. < 1083310708 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like brownies. < 1083310720 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny thing about unlambda is that it's more fun to write an implementation of unlambda than it is to write a program :) < 1083310726 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let's give titles to the lurkers of this channel. < 1083310726 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever wrote a single non-trivial program in unlambda < 1083310729 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- resident surrealist < 1083310743 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwinb - mushroom guy < 1083310749 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a classic :) < 1083310767 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taaus -- power to the people < 1083310804 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog -- talent misplaced < 1083310804 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament care to self-characterize? < 1083310816 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1083310824 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme -- sinister meme infection device < 1083310832 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/infection/distribution/ < 1083310849 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- in it for the girls < 1083310853 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc -- cute-fishbone-fractal guy < 1083310856 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament hehe < 1083310865 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dbc is just the fractal guy < 1083310866 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cute goes to the fishbone fractals, ok? :) < 1083310869 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1083310871 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... the majority of girls in this profession are computer-generated < 1083310880 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie -- beffungoid < 1083310894 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: that's what makes them so appealing < 1083310896 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink suits me fine, < 1083310915 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suit you fine? aw, how sweet ^_^ < 1083310931 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this channel does not have a homepage. < 1083310932 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: he can't forget you feeling him earlier < 1083310932 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet. < 1083310936 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1083310940 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll hack together one when i wake up :-) < 1083310941 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel has a whole mailing list < 1083310953 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament no, the mailing list has this channel. eh, right? < 1083310961 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, right < 1083310976 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A homepage with a wiki would be damn nice. < 1083310987 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could serve as a repository for esoteric stuff as well < 1083310989 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki? hm, i'll see to it, although i've never administered a wiki before. < 1083311000 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates web-based communities < 1083311002 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with catseye dead < 1083311005 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should all be sent to dis < 1083311008 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dead? < 1083311009 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. < 1083311014 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1083311027 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been dead for years < 1083311032 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's that other place (tm) < 1083311037 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone good with webdesign? i can provide the space and scripts, but i really can't put two and two bits together when it comes to gfx :) < 1083311053 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which uses "stupid" instead of "esoteric" < 1083311057 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just forgotten (by me); i remember it going down for "just a while"... < 1083311059 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "brainfork" instead of "brainfuck" < 1083311060 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1083311069 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i never saw it came back up... < 1083311071 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claps < 1083311076 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION weeps < 1083311089 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, it's gone < 1083311097 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall move on. < 1083311112 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esoteric community isn't just small, it's horribly fractured. < 1083311116 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly into chunks of one person each < 1083311128 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this fractal i have on the background... it's weird... it has angels, a huge demon-like pig trying to eat me, many horns and strange colors... < 1083311137 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw this great mention of brainfuck in one of the class lecture notes < 1083311141 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the angels trying to eat you? < 1083311156 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink a reference similar to the 'f - not funny' in that intercal paper? < 1083311164 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament no, they're going for the pig. < 1083311166 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1083311173 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xm and some ghosts as well... < 1083311177 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a parenthetical comment about the language < 1083311181 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the f-reference < 1083311187 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink what did it say? < 1083311206 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the kids' programming channels (#c, #python), esoteric languages do get mentioned from time to time < 1083311208 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys find the worse times to unlurk... < 1083311209 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly brainfuck < 1083311225 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckoffkiddo < 1083311236 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was something like, the text listed programming languages (C, Scheme, Haskell, Brainfudge[1]) < 1083311241 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the footnote it said < 1083311242 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in on minute, my misery will be over. < 1083311258 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1] Don't use that language, kids! < 1083311261 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andreou: don't do it! the world needs you! < 1083311262 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1083311268 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1] Out of reach of children. < 1083311291 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament ay) i don't need the world; i need sleep bee) the only person in the world that needs me is heatsink and his fingers. < 1083311296 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, do we have any women in here? < 1083311316 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme. But she's already married to clog < 1083311331 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm all for polyamorous relationships. < 1083311341 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, brainfork is not actually known to be turing-complete; besides which brainfooey is not something any sane programmer would want to program in. For more info on brainfufu, look at the website (...). Of course, it's not actually called Brainflock, but we don't want to mention bad words and all that shit. < 1083311342 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, and she's french, right? she'll have that cute fwench acc'ent... < 1083311354 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But would hcf be? < 1083311367 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :matters not. < 1083311372 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink 'not turing complete'? < 1083311379 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a freaking turing *machine* fgs. < 1083311394 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry Wall mentioned Brainfuck in one of his lectures on parrot. < 1083311397 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for FUFU's sake! < 1083311407 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a long list of languages on the slide, and the last was "Brainfuck" < 1083311408 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament they have a bf interpreter in parrot, check parrotcode.org. < 1083311411 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he was reading the list alound < 1083311414 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloud < 1083311422 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when he got to the end he said < 1083311424 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're famous, we're famous!" < 1083311435 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and brain, eh, fork. < 1083311445 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And I can't quite make out that last one... And even if I could, i wouldn't say it. Because there're kids present, and I wouldn't want to fuck with their brains" < 1083311459 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry Wall might be evil, but he's great :) < 1083311470 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA < 1083311479 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil people are nice. < 1083311481 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(: < 1083311498 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) (:never forget to close a comment, kiddo!:) < 1083311514 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, is there a smiley programming language? < 1083311524 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that would be my addition to pascal, (: ... :)-style comments) < 1083311540 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what Pascal needs. ANOTHER type of comments. < 1083311543 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament with just :) or with :-) :-* #8-)# etc? < 1083311551 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andreou: I guess the latter < 1083311556 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You make pascal a happier language < 1083311559 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament three is the charm or however they say that in american. < 1083311574 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: pascal is already ecstatic < 1083311580 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink yeah, and pascal programmers really *need* as many smiley faces in their lives as they can have < 1083311614 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, there goes nothing. < 1083311617 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm off to sleep. < 1083311618 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"a." < 1083311639 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right-o < 1083311667 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to work on that esolang that's made entirely of nested parentheses, brackets, and braces sometime < 1083311670 0 :andreou!~peace@ppp5.ee.teiath.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1083311673 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha gotcha! < 1083311675 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1083311702 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink: isn't there one already? < 1083311709 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... darn < 1083311733 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was called [] < 1083311746 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, they didn't want search engines linking it? < 1083311755 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and invented to be used at the subjects of esolang postings < 1083311760 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/at/in < 1083311801 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1083311814 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if people can name their language "C" and get away with it, why not "[]"? < 1083311879 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1083311893 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's an esolang that has a non-ascii name still < 1083311949 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1083311959 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I liked my other idea better anyway < 1083311960 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of a few good non-ascii names < 1083311973 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me? < 1083311978 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lambda' is a good one < 1083311986 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is 'wu' (the chinese character) < 1083311999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1083312000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1083312005 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does wu mean? < 1083312018 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more commonly known by its japanese pronunciation, mu < 1083312052 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1083312075 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pi' - perhaps for a language with a transcendental data type? < 1083312101 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a C7 chord would be a nice name for a language < 1083312149 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a C7 chord? < 1083312167 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a chord based on C and consisting of C, E, G and Bb < 1083312175 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, any chord based on C would be fun < 1083312181 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Screw C#! That's just one note!" < 1083312187 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1083312207 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name for a threads-only language < 1083312382 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, C - Bb isn't harmonic < 1083312404 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at the ones almost an octave apart < 1083312427 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"harmonic"? < 1083312434 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by that? < 1083312467 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cute name for a language would be the symbol of the Zodiac sign that happens to be in effect at the time the language is talked about < 1083312495 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by harmonic I mean the ratio of the notes is very close to a rational fraction with small integer numerator and denominator < 1083312526 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that language would be a pain because people would always be getting its name wrong < 1083312527 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1083312543 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go through all the trouble of scripting your website to always display the correct name < 1083312557 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then people make static copies of it and leave it around for months < 1083312563 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all, with modern tunic the ratio of notes a third apart is nothing at all like a nice rational fraction < 1083312568 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/tunic/tuning :) < 1083312581 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's why I say close to and not exactly < 1083312585 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nobody seems to mind very much < 1083312614 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, a third is very close to 5/4 < 1083312615 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second, while the ratio of C to Bb might not be nice, Bb is a very close overtone of C anyway < 1083312629 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, it's not < 1083312632 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1083312653 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting 5.0396/4 < 1083312654 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally though, nobody really cares if it's close or not < 1083312673 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what matters is how it sounds. < 1083312682 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds discordant if they aren't harmonic < 1083312687 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's wrong. < 1083312701 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do minor chords sound discordant? < 1083312711 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diminished chords do < 1083312724 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about minor ones? Is a minor third harmonic? < 1083312733 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music's brain effects are rather interesting; the brain tends to interpret chords and sequences of notes as a single sound < 1083312735 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see < 1083312760 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's annoying < 1083312760 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like a minor third has a ratio of 5.946/5 < 1083312766 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when you're high on weed, that doesn't happen :) < 1083312777 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least doesn't happen as often < 1083312789 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why everybody should smoke weed when listening to music. < 1083312809 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then music would no longer aid in studying < 1083312816 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they would ban music at universities < 1083312827 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't handle that < 1083312852 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you're right. A minor third is ideally 6:5 < 1083312864 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1083312906 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1083312925 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether an interval sounds nice depends mostly on the speaker < 1083312933 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the culture of the speaker < 1083312943 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the listener? < 1083312949 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. The listener. :) < 1083312957 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(::) < 1083312968 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true that intervals based on simple ratios sound "more euphonic" by nature. < 1083312999 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the middle ages, there were exactly two really euphonic intervals. < 1083313004 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fifth and the octave. < 1083313012 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the major third was considered dissonant. < 1083313038 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To accept the major third as consonant was a major breakthrough < 1083313052 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened in the renaissance < 1083313077 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1083313095 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, thanks to things like jazz and modern classical, pretty much anything is consonant, when given proper context < 1083313134 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7th chords were good enough for Bach, although he wouldn't end a piece on one. < 1083313158 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything can be part of a piece, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it consonance < 1083313190 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that there is less emphasis on consonance in contemporary music than in classical european music < 1083313206 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does all jazz sound dissonant to you? < 1083313211 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1083313240 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See. < 1083313268 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much all of jazz uses 7th chords (at the very least), whether major or minor < 1083313276 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from C to Bb, by the way, is 16:9 < 1083313314 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay < 1083313341 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a mistake -- I was doing C to B < 1083313354 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's 15:8, apparently < 1083313370 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_seventh < 1083313373 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I would have missed C to Bb because I was using 60 as the denominator < 1083313456 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the dom 7th is closer to 17:9, but I'm sure the shared harmonics aren't audible in that case < 1083313469 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1083313479 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be closer to 17:9 < 1083313495 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be 16:9 because that's what wikipedia says... < 1083313495 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C and B are 11 half-notes apart, right? < 1083313518 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C and B isn't a dominant seventh. And that's 15:8 < 1083313530 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C and Bb is a dominant seventh. < 1083313536 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1083313564 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a dominant to F-major < 1083313575 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Bb is a note in the F major scale < 1083313587 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the C major scale, where it stands out < 1083313658 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is really weird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone < 1083313689 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1083313694 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1083313816 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The picture is a big help to understanding that, I didn't know how it worked before < 1083313827 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard it mentioned < 1083313842 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a nice bit of music: "Glass Onion" at http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/listenmp3.html < 1083313848 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in 22 tet < 1083313887 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Found < 1083313903 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1083314016 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find an alternate source < 1083314063 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1083314078 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this shepard tone demonstration is scaring me < 1083314090 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can hear it? < 1083314098 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.noah.org/science/audio_paradox/endless.mp3 < 1083314119 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen to it once, then again < 1083314231 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1083314240 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't quite work for me though < 1083314246 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :May be because these speakers suck < 1083314271 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might depend on the person < 1083314277 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other examples did'nt work for me at all < 1083320739 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1083320739 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1083328525 0 :dbc1!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1083328529 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1083330143 0 :dbc1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"you have no chance to survive make your time." < 1083331366 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1083331381 0 :mooz-!~root@cs182109.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1083331430 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1083331472 0 :mooz-!~root@cs182109.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1083331735 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1083331756 0 :mooz-!~root@cs182109.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1083348635 0 :andreou!~peace@ppp5.ee.teiath.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1083349621 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1083349655 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the nature of the website, the mental stability of its creator and the overhead of php/*sql installation in openbsd, i will write the software in some obscure language/db combo. < 1083357059 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"cc." < 1083359891 0 :andreou!~peace@195.130.98.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1083360331 0 :toreun-away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :toreun < 1083360361 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1083360383 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1083360466 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for internet cafes that also serve fudge < 1083360485 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is fudge? fud about gigabit ethernet? < 1083360498 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :un-yay for the noisy people that have decided to have a party just under my window. < 1083360529 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite, but that sounds even more better < 1083360540 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness: < 1083360540 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking if building in the top-level or dist directories... yes < 1083360540 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :configure: error: Berkeley DB should not be built in the top-level or dist directories. < 1083360703 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc gcc wants to be built in a separate directory from the sources too. < 1083360726 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, should not < 1083360731 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read "should be" < 1083360756 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd docs && ../dist/configure worked < 1083360759 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not well :-) < 1083360801 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone comment on the performance of c/gdbm apps? < 1083360899 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, andreou, you are interested in making an #esoteric webpage? < 1083360912 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1083360929 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lament told me that cat's eye is definately down, so i'll try to make it a bit more generic < 1083360942 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... been down for quite awhile < 1083360954 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happen to know why? < 1083360955 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i was "out" for quite a while as well :-) < 1083360963 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, dunno... < 1083361059 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank eris for oswd.org; now i can steal designs and have a clear consciousness < 1083361126 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like making my own desigsn < 1083361139 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at it, but I like doing it all the same < 1083361169 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate web-designing; i can't hack together something more than a minimalistic spit < 1083361178 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like my homepage, for example :-) ) < 1083361227 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my html is always just the logical structure of the document with and

tags, no fancy things like "layout" or stuff. < 1083361255 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my site's current under-construction design is, IMO, not that bad - it just isn't compatible with browsers that aren't completely standard < 1083361273 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I split up layout and design, so my html is like that too < 1083361276 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly what i'm talking about... and it's not good enough for an esolang site < 1083361279 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, or is it... :) < 1083361292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling mplayer _has_ to cheat somehow, there's no way it can do all the things I tell it to. < 1083361322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm decompressing a 768x576-sized 25fps mpeg2 file (recorded some pal-rated tv), running a horizontal deblocking, vertical deblocking, deringing, linear-blend-deinterlacing and temporal noise reduction filters on the image, then bicubic-resampling the image to 640x480 and compressing it to a 1000kbps mpeg4, while simultaneously mp3-encoding the pcm audio in the video. < 1083361340 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it says it can do this for 22 frames in a second. < 1083361380 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sorry for fizzie < 1083361413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the analog tv picture quality here is quite horrible though. < 1083361687 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok time to put together some code and create a sucky engine. < 1083361689 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"s."