< 1086223651 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1086224917 0 :Toreun!tvie@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1086229737 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1086229756 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know why the bitwise operators have such low precedence? < 1086229835 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were originally used in many places where the logical operators are now. And so after they introduced the logical operators, they still didn't want anything else to have higher precedence than the logical operators but lower precedence than the bitwise operators, so as to avoid breaking that old code. < 1086229913 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a good reason--at least, not given that C turned into the most widely-used programming language. I think i read Ritchie acknowledging it was a mistake. < 1086230317 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In K&R2, introduction, page 3, there's a vague reference to it: "C, like any other language, has its blemishes. Some of the operators have the wrong precedence;..." < 1086231381 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly. < 1086231388 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C just sucks :) < 1086233803 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1086233823 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1086246793 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lament_ < 1086249599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1086249600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1086271673 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1086271681 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello all! < 1086271690 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good to be back.. < 1086271714 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. < 1086271717 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed dbc again. :p < 1086271720 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1086271723 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'oh! < 1086271736 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i see his name there but.. < 1086271740 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..he's gone? < 1086271969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle: 11 hours. < 1086271976 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1086271994 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well, is that idling time so special on this channel? :) < 1086272417 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, just changed some colours, looks nice. < 1086273578 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I just love j2me, an applet can not write to a file in the phone filesystem. < 1086273645 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1086273650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I have a chunk of binary data I have to a) send it over gprs to a remote host, which costs muchly b) send it as a multimedia message to myself with the straaange^2 wireless messaging api c) send it to a computer with the bluetooth api that's not supported by the standard build tools d) write a viewer to examine the data using the device. < 1086273716 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1086274084 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Keymaker|eat < 1086274564 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the audio data I get from a Manager.getPlayer("capture://audio?rate=8000"); is completely bonkers. that's it. I've done enough of this crap for today - time to stop. < 1086274750 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1086274799 0 :Keymaker|eat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Keymaker < 1086274824 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've done enough of this crap for today - time to stop." what now? :) < 1086274853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. dunno. I guess I should try getting home or something. < 1086274858 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhm < 1086274861 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1086274879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel weak. haven't eaten since I don't-remember-when. < 1086274895 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the feeling < 1086274938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eating would be another good idea. < 1086274948 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad there's probably nothing here except maybe cookies. < 1086274956 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another good reason for getting home. < 1086274958 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, those good :) < 1086274978 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always too lazy to cook - that's why noodles are my best friend < 1086274989 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll take this 3com bluetooth stick with me home to play with. < 1086275028 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1086275207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :committed my stupid java test thing to the cvs since "well, everything should be in cvs". feels bad to commit broken stuff though. < 1086279017 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I plugged an usb bluetooth stick to one of my linux boxen and now I have bluetooth in here. now if I could only figure out what to do with it.. < 1086279088 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory I could use the phone as a small bluetooth-based remote control thing, but with a 18m^2 apartment (and six computers usable as terminals) the need for a remote control device isn't that great. < 1086279554 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1086279569 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, pretty nice sounding flat -- six computers! < 1086279643 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOO!!!! i just converted cd to mp3 (for my own use of course), and accidentally deleted the files.. :( < 1086279805 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now. I just said "usable as terminals". < 1086279849 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them for example is a macintosh performa 5260, a rather silly powerpc thing. < 1086279898 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1086279923 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another is a SGI indy (commonly described as "indigo without the go"), which achieves impressive levels of uselessness too. especially since it has irix 6.5.something installed and using it is "a bit" sluggish. < 1086279951 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1086279968 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sparcstation 5 (this I didn't even include in the count because:) doesn't even have a monitor or a keyboard attached. < 1086280004 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a habit of gathering junk, if you didn't notice. :p < 1086280009 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1086280021 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just going to ask have you bought them all :) < 1086280050 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I got the indy for free when the computer science department was getting rid of them. < 1086280061 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I bought the sparc and performa from huuto.net. :p < 1086280066 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i se < 1086280070 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*see < 1086280088 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huuto.net has been useful source for me too getting some stuff < 1086280307 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, today i probably finally have time to work on my keen site :) < 1086283224 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1086283283 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1086283663 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1086284146 0 :lament_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lament < 1086284154 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1086284157 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1086284171 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing anything? < 1086284191 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking water. < 1086284204 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1086284214 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to eat some fruit < 1086285258 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheee. I convinced my phone to open a ppp connection to my linux box, over a bluetooth serial line. < 1086285275 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and managed to access local web pages using opera on the phone. < 1086285828 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1086285834 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it looked like? < 1086285844 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sites? < 1086286748 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /j lua < 1086286750 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1086286903 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1086286923 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways -- too bad i'll go for a little walk now.. :( fresh air :( :( < 1086286928 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1086287661 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1086301201 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1086302865 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1086304875 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric