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Once I do the *, I have a 4, and I can't think of how to gget back to 102 06:25:43 You are manipulating expressions, not evaluating them 06:25:59 there's just a rule that &*x = x 06:26:12 unless x is not a pointer type 06:28:22 I think you need an IR to do it this way 06:28:45 If you convert it to assembly as soon as possible, you lose the information you need 06:28:49 IR? 06:28:54 intermediate representation 06:28:57 oic 06:30:40 This will work with function calls, pre & post increment, which is nice 06:33:26 *++a = b is ({a = a+1; MEM[&*a] = b;}) ...... *a++ = b is ({temp = a; a = a+1; MEM[&*a] = b;}) 06:34:10 I guess my approach implies an IR; no way around it that I can see 06:35:14 Do you begin printing output before you finish reading input? 06:37:55 yes 06:38:46 hehe 06:39:25 I see... a lightweight translator then 06:40:15 I don't want to use much memory, because that is slow in BF 06:40:31 that = array memory 06:40:58 Well, here's a question for you. What will the following code do? 06:41:14 int *a; int b; 06:41:29 *a = (int) &a; 06:41:38 there is no int * a; 06:41:43 *a++ = b; 06:41:50 you don't have pointers? 06:41:54 you can only do int a; or int a[number] 06:42:51 If you need memory you could do something like a=malloc(1000) 06:43:21 then use it with a[0], a[1], etc 06:43:55 also, no casts 06:44:09 so the language is strictly typed 06:47:02 I'm not sure what that means, I guess :) 06:48:08 I wanted to avoid messed up situations like int ******* a; 06:49:26 anyhow.. I'll keep thinking on it and see if I can come up with something 06:52:28 That's a good method 06:53:28 thanks for you suggestions 07:01:50 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:02:19 -!- heatsink has quit ("sleep"). 10:20:25 -!- deltab has joined. 21:34:18 -!- calamari_ has joined. 21:34:23 hi 21:54:07 got around the = and ++ -- problems by keeping track of whether the register is an address or a value. But, since I'm doing that, I might as well implement pointers all the way, since it should be trivial :P 21:56:32 only problem right now is that it accepts things like *(a+5) 21:56:47 (where a is defined as int a;) 21:57:27 to fix that I'd need casts 21:59:33 in comp.lang.c one of the old-timers remarked that early C:s allowed you to dereference an integer constant, like: 21:59:36 struct rkreg { int csr; int dar; int wc; }; 21:59:38 0777440->dar = addr; 21:59:41 0777440->wc = 256; /* one sector */ 21:59:44 0777440->csr = RK_READ | RK_GO; /* read the sector */ 22:03:28 I'm figuring right now it's okay as long as valid c works as expected 22:07:20 btw, no structs atm 23:53:07 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 2004-08-05: 04:38:33 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 04:38:35 Wow. 04:38:42 This channel actually exists. Kickass. 04:39:27 The real question is, is anyone here? 04:40:47 -!- JoeyP has joined. 04:40:51 hellot 04:40:55 hellot 04:41:43 WHAT THE FUCK REALTIME LOGGIN OMG LOL 04:41:52 Woah. 04:41:57 :P 04:44:28 er 04:44:33 you people are sick 04:44:36 Hey, someone's alive. 04:44:47 yes? says who? 04:44:55 :o Okay, dead? 04:45:00 * LinkMasterSab scratches his head. 04:45:14 we are not sick. 04:45:24 WE'RE THE SPHERE PARADE HORSES CLIQUE! 04:45:35 XD 04:45:37 That's interesting. Tell me more. 04:45:39 Also behold the saucage of power. 04:45:51 We come from a far nation from esper.net. 04:46:00 Our race calls it's self the spherical. 04:46:05 What the fuck is esper.net? 04:46:13 And IRC server. 04:46:15 A distant galaxy beyong your comprehension. 04:46:20 An* 04:46:24 Anyways. 04:46:25 it says something about ragnarok online. 04:46:35 Yes, ragnarok online is a plague to our people. 04:46:37 It used to allow RO channels 04:46:45 It doesn't anymore 04:46:47 Anyways 04:47:01 I came here 'cause esoteric languages are my new hobby. And I think this is related. 04:47:03 it's always a good idea to disallow RO channels. 04:47:17 no, this is actually a channel about esoteric cheese. 04:47:21 Oh. 04:47:22 Damn. 04:47:30 ;_; 04:47:33 Wait, from some theory of mind, cheese it the same as a programming language. 04:47:33 Today we're discussing Cheddar. 04:47:43 You just have to be open minded about it ok. 04:47:44 [\ 04:47:57 [o\ 04:47:58 Look, the analogy is perfect. 04:48:05 Programming languages often smell. 04:48:09 They have holes in them. 04:48:13 i.e. perl 04:48:15 And tend to be yellow. 04:48:16 no, it's programmers that smell 04:48:23 That too 04:48:36 No the user just consumes it like if it were bratwurst. 04:48:39 some languages overcome yellowness 04:48:56 green cheese is an instrument of SATAN. 04:49:25 You sure that's not STAN? 04:49:27 anyway, don't choose esoteric languages as a hobby. it will ruin your life. 04:49:36 green and yellow are also the two only colours in the universe. 04:49:41 this guy, he learned brainfuck, then his wife left him. 04:49:48 I don't see how it can be a hobby. 04:49:53 It's actually a way of life. 04:49:57 That's funny 04:49:58 this other guy, he wrote a brainfuck interpreter, and then got raped by a bunch of thugs. 04:50:04 Oh shti! 04:50:05 Shit* 04:50:10 I just wrote a brainfuck interpreter 04:50:18 Help ;_; 04:50:19 Did he wear protection whole programming the interpreter? 04:50:23 while 04:50:27 another guy, he wrote a brainfuck compiler, and terrorists tortured him for a week before killing him 04:50:42 and i'd really rather not say what happened to the guy who invented brainfuck. 04:50:50 Hmm. 04:50:53 Brainfucked? 04:50:56 :( 04:50:59 he make america independant? 04:51:17 :'( 04:51:18 Hmm, I should really get some sleep. 04:51:42 No JoeyP 04:51:44 No sleep 04:51:45 ;_; 04:52:07 * JoeyP is thinking about an esotoric language, which you type like: zzZzZzzZ.... 04:52:22 That'd suck. 04:52:30 It all sucks. 04:52:33 Oh! That gives me an idea. 04:53:00 Actually, an esotoric programming language called 'female' would be way more complex and interesting. 04:53:05 However, not functional. 04:53:09 Very imperative. 04:53:14 Booleans would reverse. 04:53:28 Bits turn into bytes! 04:53:42 The program jumps randomly 04:53:49 Uh... Why are you people talking about programming languages and not cheese? 04:54:00 Because they're practicly the same. 04:54:04 Because cheese IS a programming language. 04:54:10 Turning bits into bites, etc. 04:54:11 Cheddar + colby jack = yum 04:54:33 On that note 04:54:38 Anyone want my Brainfuck interpreter? 04:54:41 It's in Python. 04:54:49 put it on that shelf over there 04:54:51 No, even I don't want it. 04:54:56 labeled "brainfuck interpreters in Python" 04:55:01 Haha, your life is a failure :( 04:55:05 ;_; 04:55:15 Just so you know, JoeyP, ur13 04:55:18 lament: I'm not sure there's room for one more... 04:55:23 i know. 04:55:33 I didn't see any on the net, is why I'm asking :o 04:55:33 Taaus: we'll just throw out some old ones 04:55:47 i think two or three of mine are in there 04:55:54 At least. 04:56:02 * LinkMasterSab shrugs. 04:56:05 Why make more brainfuck interpreters than needed? 04:56:11 WAIT! 04:56:11 Practice. 04:56:12 JoeyP: yes, why? 04:56:23 This somehow makes me think of politiceans. Or whatever you spell them. 04:56:25 Doublefuck is useless. 04:56:39 The two stacks don't interact. 04:56:49 It's for convenience. 04:56:53 Its gay. 04:56:58 What did you expect? 04:57:05 :P 04:57:10 A heterosexual brainfuck interpreter? 04:57:13 Yes!' 04:57:15 ;_; 04:57:17 Totally emo man. 04:57:29 That would be... Straightfuck. 04:57:41 Tittiefuck 04:57:53 Cheesefuck (stay on topic dammit!) 04:58:02 Cheddarfuck :o 04:58:14 Microwave pizza. 04:58:47 It's superiour, since it already had the cheesefuck. 04:58:55 Plus, a chef made it. 04:59:22 Oh, they make cheese in Sweden btw. 05:00:03 wit++ 05:00:22 what's "++"? 05:00:32 It's incremental wit. 05:01:12 :o 05:01:15 witty++ 05:01:25 shitty++ 05:02:40 -!- JoeyP has quit ("catching sleep"). 05:04:17 one down, one more to go 05:05:01 Woohoo. 05:05:06 I don't sleep :D 05:05:16 hm 05:28:22 -!- johncoltrane has joined. 05:30:40 -!- johncoltrane has left (?). 07:13:39 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 14:49:47 -!- JoeyP has joined. 14:53:44 "huh?" 14:54:32 Go play beachball. 14:55:56 Isn't there a portal with all esoteric languages? 15:00:38 I'll take that as a "NO BITCH, NOW FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING CUNT" 15:01:02 -!- JoeyP has changed nick to Joey[code]. 15:01:14 anyway, time for my own esoteric language~ 15:03:57 actually when you said 'portal' I thought you meant some real-world, dimensional-portal like thing. 15:04:37 The world isn't real my child. 15:04:56 well, intterweb portals seem even less so. 15:07:39 Hmm, I wonder what if... 15:07:44 What if every war was false. 15:07:57 And they put us up with it just to experiment 'what people would think about it'. 15:08:02 I think the answer is clear. 15:08:05 "Cheese". 15:10:05 I'm a great supporter of "You are as dumb as the world is" 15:11:18 Note that I didn't at a dot. 15:11:22 add. 17:59:08 whatever. 17:59:19 -!- calamari_ has joined. 17:59:24 hi 17:59:55 hi 18:00:35 looks like you've been having a nice chat.. hehe :) 18:03:16 not really. 18:05:08 afk to convert this quickbasic mess into c code 18:33:45 You still program quickbasic? 18:33:48 Poor bastard. 18:42:00 not a quickbasic fan? I've been using it for years, and can get a lot don in a short amount of time (proof of concept, etc) 18:42:38 other languages seem to get in the way.. java doesn't as much 18:43:47 I write proof-of-concept-like things in C too, but I'm perhaps a masochists. (well, been using scheme and perl a bit more lately.) 19:05:14 python 19:06:12 -!- Joey[code] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:06:12 python has a silly indentation-sensitive syntax. 19:36:02 how is it silly? 19:36:04 -!- calamari_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:42:03 well, maybe not silly. but it feels.. uncomfortable. maybe it just needs some getting used to. 19:42:18 'silly' is such a funny word, wanted to use it I. 19:42:32 yes, it needs some getting used to. Like a day 20:41:15 -!- JoeyP has joined. 20:47:52 wait a minute.. are you an evil pythonista? 20:49:23 yes. 20:49:57 not is me. 20:50:18 but #scheme said never to trust a pythonista. 20:51:29 Ok. 20:51:44 There's too many people there to... terrorise with success :( 20:53:03 fizzie: Never trust a schemer. 20:53:30 arr! now I don't know who to trust. 21:30:18 me! 21:39:29 I don't think I trust that. 21:40:28 Trust me, you can trust that. 21:40:45 trust me, you can trust that. 22:43:41 Trust logitech. 22:43:53 For trust is the devil. 2004-08-06: 03:38:39 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 03:38:52 * LinkMasterSab is back. 03:45:10 lot 03:45:45 :o u r late 03:46:29 I' 03:46:49 I'm making a Python script that applys HTML snippets into HTT's. It's stupid. 03:47:00 * LinkMasterSab wonders why he wastes his time. 04:03:59 -!- fizzie has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 04:05:20 -!- JoeyP has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 04:07:42 -!- fizzie has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:05:51 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 15:51:21 -!- ChanServ has quit (ACK! SIGSEGV!). 15:52:58 -!- ChanServ has joined. 15:52:58 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 15:53:26 -!- ChanServ has quit (ACK! SIGSEGV!). 15:54:47 -!- ChanServ has joined. 15:54:47 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 15:56:47 -!- ChanServ has quit (ACK! 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I'll get the digital camera out and take a couple 19:23:18 bbiam, need to use the phone 19:27:16 you people are weird. 19:28:47 -!- calamari- has joined. 19:28:54 -!- calamari_ has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:51:21 okay.. http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/images/misc/bfcomp.jpg 19:55:08 a perfect toy 19:55:20 for an obsessive compulsive homicidal maniac! 19:55:31 woohoo! :) 20:26:52 BUT IT'S A FAKE! 20:28:15 is it? 20:28:44 Would it work 20:36:14 it works 20:38:21 bbl 20:38:23 -!- calamari- has quit ("Leaving"). 2004-08-10: 00:51:37 -!- lament has changed nick to LaMeNt. 00:58:10 -!- LaMeNt has changed nick to LaMeNt69. 00:58:50 -!- LaMeNt69 has changed nick to [AzN]_LaMeNt69_. 01:00:38 -!- [AzN]_LaMeNt69_ has changed nick to [AzN]^LaMeNt_gUr. 01:01:02 -!- [AzN]^LaMeNt_gUr has changed nick to [AzN]LaMeNt_gUrL. 01:12:59 -!- [AzN]LaMeNt_gUrL has changed nick to lament. 02:05:56 lamen. 02:05:59 AZN... 02:06:04 dutch football club 04:28:45 -!- JoeyP has quit. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 10:45:27 -!- JoeyP has joined. 20:08:13 -!- JoeyP has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:20:40 -!- lament has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:27:45 -!- lament has joined. 2004-08-11: 04:46:52 -!- heatsink has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:15:47 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 20:10:12 hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle the cow jumped over the moon! 20:17:53 With a ping and a pong the fiddle-strings broke! the cow jumped over the Moon, And the little dog laughed to see such fun, And the Saturday dish went off at a run with the silver Sunday spoon. 23:26:35 -!- calamari_ has joined. 23:26:48 hi 23:27:07 yes 23:27:08 hi 2004-08-12: 01:22:15 -!- JoeyP has joined. 01:22:16 I did it! 01:22:22 I made my own esoteric language :P 01:22:23 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 01:22:39 www.nidhogg.com/romance/Romance.exe www.nidhogg.com/romance/Readme.txt 01:22:50 Yo peoples. 01:23:50 i wonder how to make [ ] though 01:24:08 Char-by-char parsing it's easy :o 01:24:22 no, if you're at ], you need to go back to the [ 01:24:27 this requires you to buffer all of the code. 01:24:41 but i don't know how 01:24:45 i should do that... 01:24:56 Buffering is okay for esoteric languages though :/ 01:25:04 heh 01:25:12 It's not like you're taking 1000 line code. 01:26:05 oh shit 01:26:06 You can set up arrays with callbacks, add a new one for each [, and on ], return to the top on. 01:26:08 oen* 01:26:14 some debugging messages are still in it 01:26:17 one* 01:26:22 i know, just a stack 01:26:25 that's not the problem 01:26:36 Stacks are coo <23 01:26:38 <3* 01:26:49 anyway, if anyone knows a cool thing to add 01:26:50 like 'sex' 01:26:57 it needs to be more romantic 01:27:01 You can cause it to buffer only when it reaches a "[" 01:27:06 :o 01:27:19 I should do that to my BF compiler. 01:27:41 pop(0) unless the callback stack isn't empty. 01:29:58 I tried to write a Brainfuck optimizer, didn't work too well. 01:29:58 I think I found a way with istream 01:30:01 it will be shitty though 01:30:27 Optimizing with large numbers causes it to use stacks you might not want it to :/ 01:30:51 Plus I couldn't figure out how the fuck to make it work with the stacks to being with. 01:30:58 What're you going to do with the istream? 01:31:40 Make another class out of an istream, and add functions to set the seeker 01:31:43 so like 01:31:49 if you have a file which has "abcde" 01:31:55 it reads abcd 01:32:00 and i could tell that if it reaches e 01:32:03 that it would go back to a 01:32:11 Ah 01:32:11 making abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc. etc 01:32:24 but first i'll make file input 01:32:34 file input isn't hard 01:32:35 :D 01:32:39 So get to it. 01:33:30 already programming 01:33:35 K. 01:34:23 Your language is all about gay sex. 01:34:29 Jack, John, and Joey. 01:35:06 Joey from Dawson's Creek? 01:35:19 I'd imagine Joey from JoeyP 01:35:43 Heh, yeah, Gay Romance. 01:35:47 that will be version 2. 01:36:34 I should make my Pacman language 01:36:43 I wonder if I could do that with Yapps 01:37:50 YACC 01:37:53 heh 01:37:58 Yapps >_> 01:38:02 oh 01:38:09 hmm, i need to ignore new lines 01:38:10 Yet Another Python Parser 01:38:12 System 01:39:26 this is shitty 01:39:31 it's outputing newlines too much 01:40:37 yay 01:41:48 Yay 01:45:06 -!- Dn7 has joined. 01:45:36 -!- JoeyP has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:49:09 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 03:26:25 anyone wants to check it out? ;_;! 03:26:32 i worked long on this 03:26:36 a whole... 3 hours! 03:28:47 I checked it out :( 03:30:07 HacPac is gonna be cool. I hope. 03:32:46 ;o 03:33:02 i'll make a new one when we get another contest though 03:33:58 We'll HAVE that contest. 03:33:59 :D 03:34:55 RIGHT NOW? 03:37:02 No. 03:37:08 I've got school tommorrow. 03:37:13 And homework to do. 03:37:16 I should go grab that. 03:38:05 Heh 03:38:40 Just Alg2 review. 03:38:41 they should make a language that makes sense 03:38:57 I want to make one and call it "Plain english" 03:39:28 or 'german' 03:44:06 Nah, English. 04:00:15 -!- Dn7 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 04:04:07 -!- Toreu1 has joined. 04:04:15 -!- Toreu1 has changed nick to Toreun. 04:04:43 hi everyone 04:18:56 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 04:25:47 yes. hi 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 15:13:08 -!- Toreun has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"). 16:23:55 -!- JoeyP has joined. 22:19:31 Taaus: do you know any recordings of the WTC arranged for multiple instruments? 22:26:17 Like a violin? 22:28:26 a violin isn't multiple instruments. 22:28:33 I mean an individual instrument for each voice. 22:29:40 Does wtc stand for world trade center? 22:30:04 only among the unwashed masses. 22:30:28 I actually just took a shower. 22:30:43 then wtc doesn't stand for world trade center among you. 22:32:37 But for... Wielder of The Coconut. 22:44:44 lament: Hmm... Not off-hand, no. I know Jaques Loussier has made some arrangements for piano, acoustic bass, and drums, but somehow I don't think that's what you're looking for ;) 22:45:05 Jacques, rather. 22:45:50 yeah, that's not quite what i meant :) 22:46:58 Somehow, the notion of each instrument playing a single voice doesn't strike me as very... Interesting. 22:48:11 no? :( 22:49:21 Nope. Sorry. :) I also think it would be pretty damn boring for the musicians involved. 22:49:37 Now, vocal arrangements, on the other hand... 22:49:45 :( 22:49:54 vocal arrangements DO exist 22:50:00 the swingle singers 22:50:04 I know. 22:50:10 although they often had to use two people for one voice 22:50:56 anyway, i think such a recording would be way cool. 22:51:17 Well... Make one! :) 22:51:26 You can do... Piano and guitar. Hehe :) 22:51:28 that's hwat they all say 22:51:39 i can do many things (by virtue of having an electronic keyboard) 22:51:51 i'd need a good recording machine though 22:52:07 Oh, bah. There's no fun in doing it electronically. 23:01:12 -!- Toreun has joined. 23:01:24 Hi there 23:04:36 Taaus: i agree 23:10:54 which is why i'd rather get a recording than record one myself. 23:33:14 still, why do you think it woudln't be interesting? 23:33:17 counterpoint is important. 23:33:28 and pianists inevitably muddle it. 2004-08-13: 00:50:26 Hey Toreun 03:09:02 -!- calamari_ has joined. 03:27:18 -!- JoeyP has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:52:37 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:53:03 -!- cmeme has joined. 04:00:57 -!- lament has changed nick to jew. 04:02:01 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 04:41:18 -!- Toreun has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 04:41:59 -!- fizzie has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 04:42:13 -!- Toreun has joined. 04:43:18 -!- fizzie has joined. 07:05:59 -!- mtve has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 07:18:40 -!- mtve has joined. 07:20:32 -!- dbc has joined. 07:21:46 -!- jew has changed nick to lament. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 11:37:10 -!- deltab has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 13:25:11 -!- dbc has quit ("you have no chance to survive make your time."). 16:05:12 -!- deltab has joined. 18:57:04 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 19:42:12 -!- calamari_ has joined. 20:33:10 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit ("I'm better then you all!"). 20:37:25 -!- calamari_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:37:40 -!- calamari_ has joined. 20:42:46 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 2004-08-14: 00:58:24 -!- deltab has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 00:59:14 -!- deltab has joined. 00:59:42 -!- deltab has quit ("Reconnecting"). 00:59:43 -!- deltab has joined. 01:06:49 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 01:07:06 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit (Client Quit). 01:07:23 -!- LinkMasterSab has joined. 02:02:58 -!- LinkMasterSab has quit. 04:31:13 -!- heatsink has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:20:53 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 17:50:44 -!- cmeme has quit (Broken pipe). 17:50:45 -!- Toreun has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:52:01 -!- cmeme has joined. 2004-08-15: 01:31:12 -!- Scyter has joined. 01:33:03 -!- Scyter has left (?). 02:18:29 -!- heatsink has joined. 04:32:28 -!- deltab has left (?). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 11:24:09 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 20:36:33 -!- Toreu1 has joined. 20:36:41 -!- Toreu1 has changed nick to Toreun. 21:56:19 -!- sixforty has joined. 21:58:50 How do I leave the esolang email list? 22:55:25 you don't. 22:55:30 it's impossible. 22:55:53 you can check out, but you can never leave 23:58:38 -!- sixforty has quit ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/"). 2004-08-16: 03:48:25 -!- sbp has joined. 03:48:31 -!- sbp has left (?). 05:14:30 -!- heatsink has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 10:14:36 -!- heatsink has quit ("yo quito."). 17:01:10 -!- ChanServ has quit (ACK! 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I have a fairly simple decompressor, just need to translate it into bf 22:40:17 do you know of strcpy/strcat routines for bf? 22:40:53 no. 23:09:29 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 2004-08-19: 06:42:37 -!- heatsink has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:36:05 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 15:11:40 -!- fizzie has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:11:54 -!- fizzie has joined. 18:35:35 -!- fizzie has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:35:50 -!- fizzie has joined. 19:32:50 -!- edwinb has joined. 2004-08-20: 01:53:09 -!- calamari_ has joined. 01:53:14 hello 02:54:59 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 04:09:59 -!- fizzie has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 04:10:00 -!- edwinb has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 04:10:33 -!- edwinb has joined. 04:10:33 -!- fizzie has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 17:19:02 -!- aplanas has joined. 17:20:54 -!- aplanas has left (?). 22:35:27 -!- Keymaker has joined. 22:35:33 hey.. 22:35:58 hi Keymaker 22:36:01 made any keys lately? 22:36:45 nope 22:36:48 :\ 22:37:41 I made a key. (I use it for ssh authentication when using wincvs from the windows boxen at work.) 22:38:51 hmmm... interesting toy in the logs: http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/images/misc/bfcomp.jpg 22:39:03 or well, mentioned there.. 22:39:06 http://peili.hut.fi/tfy0201/cat.gif 22:39:10 see, a pretty picture. 22:39:37 heh 22:39:40 nice cat 22:39:49 drawn by you? 22:39:52 it's aliveness is indeterminate. 22:40:11 nope. but I'll probably be taking the tfy-0.201 course this autumn. 22:40:36 they use the picture in the course description web-page to distract people from noticing that it isn't really that much fun. 22:40:53 :) 22:41:34 this is in finnish, but the picture label is "Schrödingerin kissa. Oliko Schrödinger kissanvihaaja vai ei? 22:41:37 Miten kissalle oikein kävi? Vastaus ehkä selviää kurssin aikana..." 22:42:07 :) 22:43:30 maybe I'll try to translate. "Schrödinger's cat. Was Schrödinger a cat-hater or not? Whatever happened to the cat? We might find out during the course..." 22:53:17 hmmm.. time to go.. 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