< 1096603530 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1096603541 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr: it's not like Haskell is in any danger... < 1096603575 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't talking about Haskell < 1096603588 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joy is probably esoteric < 1096603685 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you're into _that_ as well :) < 1096603697 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :among others < 1096617599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1096617600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1096622711 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1096622952 0 :lindi-!~lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096652660 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096652663 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096652663 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096652665 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096652679 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1096652679 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@vipunen.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096652679 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1096652679 0 :lament!~lament@S01060050baab2c59.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096652739 0 :Taaus_!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1096653096 0 :lament_!~lament@S01060050baab2c59.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096653246 0 :mtve2!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1096653340 0 :ZeroOne_!~vsaalo@vipunen.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096653537 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1096653585 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1096653665 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1096653764 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1096688015 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096703999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1096704000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1096705921 0 :lament_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lament < 1096708892 0 :ZeroOne_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096708892 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096709059 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@vipunen.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096709674 0 :lindi-!~lindi@81.17.193.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1096716109 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1096723108 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1096723271 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096723828 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: you mentioned some programming language that allowed changing the code without having to restart the program, what was it? < 1096724230 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I? when? are you sure I didn't refer to Befunge or some other language with self-modifying code? < 1096724245 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe it was tazzle then? < 1096724369 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be, because I can't think of any such language from the top of my head, except interpreted languages which can be paused. < 1096724395 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even those don't allow much changing, like adding whole new lines < 1096724439 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you _couldn't_ change the code of arbitrary program regardless of the language it's written in, just attach a debugger and re-write it's memory. < 1096724440 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tazle even < 1096724465 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure sure, but tazle iirc mentioned some language where this functionality was extensively supported < 1096724483 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not familiar with this "tazle" you speak of. < 1096724651 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's understandable, he's only on #tik04 < 1096724727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably go write some code now that I don't have any deadlines for tomorrow. < 1096724748 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the physics exercises for monday/tuesday look very un-fun. < 1096724943 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exercise 5: there's a car (mass m=1000kg) approaching a cliff at speed v=1.0cm/s. calculate the probability of said car reflecting off the cliff border. (hint: treat the cliff as a (gravity) potential wall, and write the schroedinger equation before and after the cliff. the probability of reflection is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the wave component moving backwards." < 1096724983 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so the question is funny, but solving the necessary differential equations wouldn't be. < 1096744495 0 :Taaus_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Taaus < 1096761537 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MCBC: http://web.archive.org/web/20040221222300/http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bolmstea/mtfi/ < 1096761558 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thingie claims to be a befunge compiler < 1096761614 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "about 3.5 times faster than the fastest interpreter known to exist" (this is the point where lindi- should jump in to prove this guy wrong ;) < 1096772236 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096782405 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1096784098 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784107 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784116 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784117 0 :mtve2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784117 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784117 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784253 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784253 0 :shapr!~user@c-181973d5.014-109-626f6410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784253 0 :mtve2!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784253 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784253 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1096784273 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784273 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784292 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1096784301 0 :lindi-!~lindi@81.17.193.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1096784328 0 :shapr!~user@c-181973d5.014-109-626f6410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1096786939 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :palapiku < 1096786943 0 :palapiku!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lamnet < 1096786986 0 :lamnet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lament < 1096790399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1096790400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1096792106 0 :karnoefel!~karnoefel@cp427015-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1096792187 0 :karnoefel!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1096802886 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: maybe, but it's hard to say because i can't get this MCBC (the site is down) < 1096804408 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.org down? can't be... try again. < 1096805564 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: nono, i can see the html page but the link to mtfi-1.21.tar.gz is broken < 1096807284 0 :vanyuchestvo!~vanyuches@81-86-7-14.dsl.pipex.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1096807311 0 :vanyuchestvo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1096823061 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20040221222300/http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bolmstea/mtfi/mtfi-1.21.tar.gz works fine for me < 1096823109 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just the interpreter, http://web.archive.org/web/20040221222300/http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bolmstea/mtfi/mcbc10.zip would be the compiler (apparently for MS-DOS) < 1096823773 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: mm, i have a feeling i once read the sources through < 1096824605 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: too bad it's DOS only :( < 1096824711 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be really interesting to see a benchmark < 1096851455 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1096859277 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.194.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096870730 0 :calamari-!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.252.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096871784 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1096874385 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1096876799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1096876800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1096899051 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1096906129 0 :Bienensch!bini@brmn-d9b8f07a.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096906592 0 :Bienensch!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1096909599 0 :mtve2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :mtve < 1096909679 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk lets you change lots of code and keep going. < 1096909687 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Common Lisp does that too. < 1096920885 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.21.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1096920908 0 :shapr!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1096921420 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1096963199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1096963200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1096972495 0 :bbls1!~bbls@80.97.121.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1096980935 0 :bbls1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1096996171 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@81.17.199.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1096996178 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evenin' < 1096996505 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1096996506 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1097014530 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where's lindi-? < 1097014560 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lost terminal"? hmm. maybe we should help him look for it. < 1097014589 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting question. his ircnet-client is there. (45min idle.) < 1097014636 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, true < 1097014650 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he doesn't have auto-accept invites on < 1097014705 0 :Hipo!~hipo@dsl-hkigw4na7.dial.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097014716 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Hipo < 1097014719 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1097014757 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also connected to freenode, too, just not joined here. < 1097014806 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought that was exactly what you meant :p < 1097014825 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hipo: what esolangs are you into? < 1097014879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have said 'irc client', not 'ircnet-client', then. < 1097014895 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: What esolang? < 1097014903 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hipo: esoteric programming languages < 1097014914 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't be bothered to type the full phrase every time ;) < 1097014925 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "essies" < 1097014932 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EPLs". < 1097014939 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that's a good one < 1097014951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPL sounds like JCL or some other relic from the distant past. < 1097014952 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What those are exactly? < 1097014981 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hipo: like Brainfuck, Befunge, Whitespace, INTERCAL, Unlambda, ... < 1097015007 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you knew because you joined this channel < 1097015010 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good url-answer to that question, btw? < 1097015010 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit brainfuck. < 1097015026 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: No, I joined because you mentioned this channel on that other channel. :) < 1097015049 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_esoteric_programming_languages < 1097015065 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like esoteric languages. :) < 1097015111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeroone; it'll get deleted soon anyway. :p < 1097015134 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nope, the Votes for Deletion nomination was cancelled. < 1097015159 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the catseye esoteric-topics-in-computer-programming page used to be a good starting point, but is that thing even alive any more? < 1097015179 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it just changed its address. just a sec, I'll look it up. < 1097015187 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.mine.nu:8080/ < 1097015198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the :8080 is hard to remember. < 1097015209 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wikipedia article links to an archive.org copy. < 1097015228 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :above the archive.org copy is a link to that new version... < 1097015248 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1097015269 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I'm already in bed and half-asleep, can't notice everything. < 1097015287 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha :) < 1097015315 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a good idea. gotta get up early tomorrow. I slipped school today. ;) < 1097015344 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only missed the first four hours of lectures today. < 1097015356 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had some trouble getting out of bed in the morning. < 1097015400 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1097015411 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I managed to catch a boring/useless scheme lecture and an even more useless "how to use matlab to calculate stuff like 1+1" exercise session, instead of anything useful. < 1097015427 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, might've made more sense just to stay home. < 1097015494 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I should write an esolanguage of my own... < 1097015502 0 :lindi-!~lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097015508 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: ah, indeed < 1097015654 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whu? the ru keymap has , and . as shift-6 and shift-7, respectively. < 1097015659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange layout. < 1097015680 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's because they have all those extra letters. < 1097015904 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just happened to notice.) < 1097016186 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poni. < 1097016762 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pony? < 1097017185 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, a pony. Just came to my mind. < 1097032140 0 :toreun!~toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097033937 0 :toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1097049599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097049600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097077672 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hipo: should you do that, you might want to either read all of those through because most stuff has already been invented < 1097077693 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you may want to read nothing so not to be influenced by solutions of other people < 1097077763 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point of esoteric language is just that its insane and not for real use? I don't mind if I use same idea that some other language already uses... :) < 1097077912 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. (1) esoteric -- (confined to and understandable by only an enlightened inner circle; "a compilation of esoteric philosophical theories") < 1097079036 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why there's link to Scheme48 in topic? Scheme isn't an esoteric language... < 1097079071 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add +t mode i guess < 1097079097 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile feel free to change the topic :) < 1097111597 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097111597 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1097112092 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097112092 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1097115153 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097118651 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097119208 0 :lindi-!~lindi@81.17.193.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097132196 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097135999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097136000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097199091 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.29.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097209604 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1097209926 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.226.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097211686 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1097222399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097222400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097289697 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097300760 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097308799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097308800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097350715 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1097395199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097395200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097395335 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097395335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097395335 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097395335 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097395417 0 :Hipo!~hipo@dsl-hkigw4na7.dial.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097395417 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097395417 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097395417 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1097396921 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097396921 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097396921 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097396921 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097397020 0 :Hipo!~hipo@dsl-hkigw4na7.dial.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097397020 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097397020 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097397020 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1097416002 0 :Taaus_!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1097416110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097416110 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097416112 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097416112 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097416153 0 :fizzie!fis@130.233.18.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097416153 0 :Hipo!~hipo@dsl-hkigw4na7.dial.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097416153 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097416545 0 :Taaus_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Taaus < 1097443322 0 :IRCMonkey!~chatzilla@c-24-13-236-59.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097443331 0 :IRCMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1097471155 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097476797 0 :Hipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1097481599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097481600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097484638 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097514137 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1097514185 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1097514185 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1097541480 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097560843 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097567224 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097567224 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1097567999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097568000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097588301 0 :fizzie_!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097588301 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer) < 1097588322 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :fizzie < 1097613459 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: hey, i just implemented support for converting numbers larger than 11!-1 to the base factorial. using the parenthesis for larger multipliers 25399113151916313 becomes (11)(10)(1)987654321 which is actully longer than the base 10 presentation... < 1097615304 0 :dave78!~peacok_pr@61.5.36.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097616618 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Leaving < 1097616618 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097616629 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097616629 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1097617152 0 :dave78!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1097627705 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097633111 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1097643158 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097644676 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097654399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097654400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097669072 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: nice job < 1097669119 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we did count that factorial based numbering system would become shorter than decimal notation after approx 10^15, didn't we? < 1097669130 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that of course assumed new characters < 1097669135 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: yep < 1097669145 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, where are you?-O < 1097669185 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at Panic < 1097669288 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm moving there -> < 1097669312 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite sure, this is some class in the main building < 1097669314 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I assigned alias "ipne" for "pine" < 1097669319 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tellus? < 1097669335 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p and i are difficult characters < 1097669369 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why some of these OS's don't recognize "ping" command < 1097669387 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do, but you have to tell the exact path i think < 1097669407 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at a box named tempest. If I type "ping vipunen" it says "vipunen is alive". if I ping anything from vipunen, the command is not recognized < 1097669416 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's lame ;P < 1097669424 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1097669446 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p and i are difficult characters to type in the right order if they're right one after another < 1097669471 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, I've got two minutes for moving this 200 meters to the main building < 1097669473 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or less < 1097669476 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go -> < 1097669477 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to figure out how to print the notes at http://www.hut.fi/~jnyman/ < 1097669506 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, why print, i could copy them to my communicator :P < 1097682461 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when I used pine I always typoed it "oubi". < 1097682496 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is strange, "pine" << 1 = "oubw", not oubi. < 1097686316 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha :) < 1097694219 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.97.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097697167 0 :Keymaker!~no@fk119.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097697211 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hii < 1097697307 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get this ypsilax. i don't get it at all.. :\ < 1097698238 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, me goes < 1097698240 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1097699059 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer) < 1097699524 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097706609 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097710651 0 :dave78!~peacok_pr@61.5.8.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097712870 0 :dave78!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1097718996 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097736426 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097736787 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.152.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097740799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097740800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097742497 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097770908 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.145.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097771214 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097782561 0 :Keymaker!~no@fk119.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097782760 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1097826868 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.107.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097827199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097827200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097829611 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097841791 0 :fizzie_!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097841791 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer) < 1097853837 0 :mtve2!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1097853837 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1097860336 0 :mtve2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :mtve < 1097897804 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097908519 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097913599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1097913600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1097931902 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie_: just saw "pc[-2].insn = &&invokevirtual_resolved;" in gcc/libjava/interpret.cc and it immediately reminded me of your ff :) negative array indexes and computed gotos on the same line, hrm < 1097932422 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie_: i just got this evil idea, that if i could convert befunge to bytecode it could be fed to gcc and it could build a binary < 1097937742 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1097937755 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1097946295 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear writing gcc frontends (for languages) isn't exactly trivial. < 1097946300 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I guess it could be done. < 1097947073 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie_: have you taken any java courses at HUT btw? < 1097947093 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. or courses where they require you to do use java < 1097947255 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097947509 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. < 1097947521 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it'll be easy to avoid. < 1097947533 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the compiler course people use java to implement their stuff. < 1097947536 0 :fizzie_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :fizzie < 1097954257 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097954264 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097954266 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097954266 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097954266 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1097954278 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097954278 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1097954278 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097954278 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1097954278 0 :lindi-!~lindi@81.17.193.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1097955221 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1097974110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1097974473 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1097979564 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1097999999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098000000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098007675 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098031171 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098038180 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098057445 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098083528 0 :ZeroOne_!~vsaalo@vipunen.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1098083902 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1098085256 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098086399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098086400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098095082 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1098095151 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098101127 0 :mooz-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1098102869 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098106820 0 :mooz-!~mooz@213.169.16.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1098114001 0 :ZeroOne_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1098151541 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098156336 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1098156720 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1098161482 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098172795 0 :julinea!~julinea43@ip68-99-222-83.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098172799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098172800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098173405 0 :julinea!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1098213774 0 :calamari_!~jeffryj@lilly.csoft.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098213779 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1098214769 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098234162 0 :Andy345!~Andy345@h00080ed31884.ne.client2.attbi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098234186 0 :Andy345!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1098234403 0 :Andy345!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ih < 1098234493 0 :Andy345!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1098247498 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098259199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098259200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098267202 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098308524 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer) < 1098308776 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098310144 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1098310164 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098323807 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098337610 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098345599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098345600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098408115 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098408138 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098408874 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Broken pipe < 1098408952 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098415964 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098420453 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098431999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098432000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098460267 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Broken pipe < 1098460345 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098490140 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098511191 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098518399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098518400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098522842 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@4.240.111.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1098527482 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098564426 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098564458 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098573748 0 :kael!~kael@c-67-170-119-247.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098573801 0 :kael!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client exiting" < 1098580844 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098580851 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098580856 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098580856 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1098580856 0 :tolkien.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+n < 1098581039 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :lindi-!~lindi@81.17.193.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098581039 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1098581039 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/titleOfTheStory.html -- http://s48.org/ (Scheme48 v1.1) < 1098586632 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098588354 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.253.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098589679 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098589723 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1098595410 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098604799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098604800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098612307 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1098612370 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098658075 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1098658100 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098659315 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1098659334 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098671698 0 :dxlvi!dxlvi@catv-5062f291.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1098671714 0 :dxlvi!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1098677028 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098683435 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098691199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098691200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098729647 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1098732861 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.224.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098734665 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098737950 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1098737979 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098753043 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098761753 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098761857 0 :cybercobra!~cybercobr@h-67-101-210-231.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098762013 0 :cybercobra!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1098762268 0 :shammah!~andrae@stallman.pisoftware.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098762509 0 :shammah!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1098765301 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098770490 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.254.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098772171 0 :calamari-!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.59.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098773327 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1098777599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098777600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098781823 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098782119 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1098782137 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098801475 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098801475 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098801475 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098801714 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1098801714 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098801714 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098801714 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1098802207 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098802207 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098802207 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098802446 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1098802446 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098802446 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098802446 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1098802957 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098802957 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098802957 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1098803107 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1098803107 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098803107 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1098803107 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1098834177 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098837862 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098842422 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098863999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098864000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098864624 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098926759 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1098943134 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1098950399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1098950400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1098987731 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1098987821 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1098987821 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1099036799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1099036800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1099042842 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1099042842 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1099042842 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1099042842 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1099042975 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1099057676 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Broken pipe < 1099057705 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1099060763 0 :lindi-!~lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1099061526 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ff seems output zero for all inputs with http://iki.fi/lindi/factorial.bf . i get correct results with mooz's bef, any idea what's wrong? < 1099062755 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff has bugs. :p < 1099062762 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is most likely the cause. < 1099062804 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a simple test case where it behaves differently than mooz's bef, I can try to get it fixed at some point. pretty busy right now, though. < 1099066249 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1099067971 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1099107741 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1099107753 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1099121090 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099123199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1099123200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1099124336 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :philology < 1099125742 0 :philology!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :heatsink < 1099128589 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1099167205 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.48.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099168866 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1099168876 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.111.48.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099172212 0 :calamari-!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.60.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099173327 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1099174729 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1099174743 0 :calamari_!Jeffry@dialup-4.240.108.60.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099181903 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1099188476 0 :heatsink!~heatsink@1106-wstoughton.halo.soltec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1099208072 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1099209599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1099209600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1099231062 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :^C < 1099231062 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1099231068 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1099231068 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1099245242 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1099245305 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many days it is since someone said a word? :p < 1099245549 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many. < 1099245556 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1099245573 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2004-10-29 17:17:34] < fizzie> if you have a simple test case where it behaves differently than mooz's bef, I can try to get it fixed at some point. pretty busy right now, though. < 1099245577 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only two days ago. < 1099245595 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1099245597 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now off to the grocery store to get some food before they close. -> < 1099245603 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1099245605 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1099248854 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1099248864 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized something < 1099249057 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1099249073 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing in a brainfuck program i was writing.. < 1099249077 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one important thing < 1099249167 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this brainf*ck program about anything interesting? -g < 1099249177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1099249191 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shall tell if isbn number is correct or not < 1099249339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-hum. sounds very useful, if you happen to have some brainf*ck-scriptable system you need to do isbn-checking in. < 1099249353 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1099249355 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1099249365 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to contact the local library < 1099249416 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/joke] < 1099249429 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant that library thing < 1099249432 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program's real < 1099249473 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not really esoteric, but do you know a portable way to do assert() in java? assert(foo) works in 1.2 and 1.5 but out homework checker uses 1.4 and complains loudly < 1099249580 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's temporarily fixed with private static void xassert(boolean b){if(!b) throw new AssertionError();} < 1099249742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummn. just using the 'assert' keyword should, as far as I know, work in 1.4 too. < 1099249765 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it. < 1099249767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not. < 1099249780 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they mention it in the documentation but it still gives me errors < 1099249813 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a sec, i'll give the details) < 1099249828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be a keyword nowadays, but using it should still work. < 1099249837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :riight. < 1099249864 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might need to invoke javac with "-source 1.4" if you want to use assertions. < 1099249882 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i can't do that. the homework checker is automated < 1099249889 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1099249905 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange that it works in 1.2, though. < 1099249915 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/lang/assert.html#compatibility < 1099249918 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in 1.5 < 1099249933 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in 1.5 probably the default is to use the new semantics. < 1099249945 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 'assert' is a keyword, and thusly not a legal identifier. < 1099250107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unless you specifically request source mode 1.4 with the -source 1.4 flag, the compiler operates in source mode 1.3. If you forget to use this this flag, programs that use the new assert statement will not compile. Having the compiler use the old semantics as its default behavior (that is, allowing assert to be used as an identifier) was done for maximal source compatibility. Source mode 1.3 is likely to be phased out over time." < 1099250127 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"phased out", right < 1099250139 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need assertions in java-homework? < 1099250278 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not supposed to use good style and sophisticated design yet. :p < 1099250324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(says the one who started to write yet another scheme object system and a gui toolkit for his t-93.211 work.) < 1099250386 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i wish we had scheme :/ < 1099250436 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've looked at some of this year's homework assignments. they seem sort-of silly, at least the ones I happened to look at. < 1099250563 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the only problem is that it's targeted to everyone and not just CS people. also, it's more about java than programming in general < 1099250611 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this latter part of the scheme course we're having now manages to be somewhat interesting, actually. < 1099250657 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about implementing interpreters. they even mention continuations, which is funky. < 1099250668 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1099250696 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it makes no sense that there's no homework-style stuff, only 3 hours of lectures/week. I'm not quite sure the majority will learn these things too well. < 1099250709 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1099250745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter code we look at during the lecture is available to play with, in the interweb, but your regular student probably won't bother unless there are some graded homework assignments about it. < 1099250768 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in brown university, where we've stolen the material from, they have homework assignment rounds. < 1099250835 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1099251037 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably didn't bother since this'll be the only time they're arranging the course. < 1099251202 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1099251298 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr, I'll be having mat-2.090 (Applied Probability A) and tfy-0.201 (physics III) exams tomorrow, and the latter doesn't sound good at all. < 1099252441 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1099252444 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1099252447 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :