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00:36:09 <Rogue> have a hobby for esoteric proggraming languages
00:37:24 <Rogue> cool, i like'm cuz languages like C and VB, are fucking annoying
00:38:14 <arke> (note: thats not the mentality that'll get you a job as a software dude ;))
00:39:52 <Rogue> i know, i understand programming structure and unstanding codeing technequies to read the design structure, but codeing scares me
00:40:05 <Rogue> i useally stick with BASIC
00:41:22 <arke> TI-BASIC is esoteric :)
00:41:28 <arke> I really like BrainFuck and Befunge the most
00:41:53 <Rogue> lol, i still have a ti-82
00:42:18 <arke> when i feel non-esoterically, I do some asm or Forth
00:43:06 <arke> x86, nothing like it ^_^
00:43:20 <kipple> arke: If you like Brainfuck and Befunge you should have a look at SNUSP!
00:43:45 <kipple> it's kind of a mix of Brainfuck and Befunge
00:43:57 <kipple> http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SnuspLanguage
00:45:25 <Rogue> i want to make a language with JustBASIC
00:46:02 <Rogue> a lil fuck aroiund thing
00:48:36 <kipple> never mind. I found it
00:48:37 <Rogue> ever heard of liberty BASIC?
00:49:09 <arke> Rogue: basically brainfuck. However, theres 2 instructions, one of them you scroll through a circular lists of brainfuck instructions, the next one executes that brainfuck instruction. after executing, it scrolls to the next brainfuck instruction. the character for scroll is space and the character for execute is enter/return/newline
00:50:34 <Rogue> i was thinking something more along the lines of MOUSE, or LOGO,
00:51:43 <Rogue> you know, any language with sprite abilities can make something like that
00:52:41 <Rogue> brb, i have laundry
01:17:04 <kipple> Had a look at MOUSE. seems like a nice language
01:18:04 <Rogue> its esseintially a digital toy
01:18:19 <Rogue> make a mouse move around a screen
01:29:23 <Rogue> i wanna see the weirdo that made ZT
01:33:03 <Rogue> its an interesting language, hell, with an IDE frontend, it can become a drag and drop language
01:33:12 <Rogue> otherwise, it looks weird
01:36:57 <Rogue> how about a 2d command set where the command positions are on a grid type, with subs on a seperate grid set
01:38:26 <kipple> not sure what you mean...
01:38:40 <kipple> what do you mean with "grid type"?
01:39:45 <Rogue> well, a program would be written on both x,y
01:40:55 <Rogue> then the variables,(strings,numaric,boolean) would along the z axis
01:41:55 <Rogue> the editor would be like a spreadsheet document
01:44:38 <kipple> i don't understand what you mean with variables along the z axis.
01:47:18 <kipple> (sorry for being slow...)
01:47:44 <Rogue> well, all declared variables are set in a linear array into a stack, so each variable can expand easier, you have a variable declared at code block 7,8 would beput in the next available slot on an array
01:48:15 <Rogue> so a string variable would look like "string$(1)"
01:54:19 <Rogue> the variablables that are in the array/stack would be the z axis
01:59:30 <kipple> are the variables only referenced by their location, or will they have names?
02:02:30 <Rogue> hell, if you played with VB a bit, you could use excel tools and what not, or other .NET tools you could make it
02:05:27 <Rogue> the location of the code declareing it would be identified by the x,y
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05:05:25 <arke> whats up mr. CPU cooling device? :)
05:05:40 <arke> (or mrs. or ms., whichever applies)
05:06:12 * heatsink is reading about red-black trees
05:06:41 <heatsink> My neighbor had a tree that was kinda red-black.
05:08:12 <arke> red black? o.O
05:11:29 <arke> wow that is weird!
05:11:38 * arke makes a note to google for that tomorrow
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19:41:28 <Keymaker> "16:37:24 <Rogue> cool, i like'm cuz languages like C and VB, are fucking annoying"
19:42:21 <Keymaker> now.. i would need some nice idea for a brainfuck programme
20:08:06 <calamari> how about a memory manager or command-line shell for bfos ;)
20:08:26 <calamari> hmm, think i'm calling it bos now, aren't I? :)
20:12:32 <calamari> one thing I tried to do a long time ago, and failed at, was to come up with bf code blocks to replace c commands.. for example: while(), etc. The basic ones are relatively simple, but it gets more complicated when break and continue are added
20:13:34 <calamari> that's why I rdecided to go for line numbers and goto's :)
20:14:00 <calamari> it still seems like it should be possible to generate, though
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