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00:47:00 <graue> i'm stuck on loop.i
00:47:51 <graue> even after tracing it by hand three times, i can't understand why it does what it does when actually interpreted (prints characters 0-255 in a loop)
00:48:10 <graue> starting at 1
00:49:07 <graue> seems i always make some kind of mistake while trying to follow it
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01:55:43 <graue> hello, heatsink
01:55:54 <heatsink> hello, graue
02:08:17 <graue> have you played with the esoteric language 'iag' any?
02:13:23 <heatsink> nope
02:18:52 <heatsink> heh, overloaded operator performs 3 unrelated functions.
02:22:36 <graue> yes
02:22:48 <graue> i've been trying in vain to figure out how loop.i works
02:23:24 <graue> tracing it by hand, but it seems i keep messing up, because i end up with illegal stuff like memory underflows, when what the program actually does, is print characters 0-255 repeatedly, starting with character 1
02:23:25 <heatsink> good luck on that.
02:23:29 <graue> thank you
02:23:37 <graue> what will you be doing while i continue to trace loop.i?
02:24:28 <heatsink> writing a program to parse and error-check a text representation of a control flow graph.
02:26:03 <graue> sounds like fun
02:28:32 <heatsink> It's a novel experience.
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06:53:42 <graue> hello, calamari
07:39:09 <calamari> hi graue
07:39:16 <calamari> whatcha up to?
07:43:37 <graue> trying to make a new subdomain at freedns
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07:55:05 <calamari> any luck?
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08:02:43 <graue> finally, yes
08:03:22 <graue> the list of domains is incredibly long and froze firefox for 2 minutes trying to load the page before i gave up and stopped it (it was still at the letter 'a')
08:03:55 <graue> then i spent about a half hour trying to do it in lynx, which failed to load pages most of the time for no reason
08:04:05 <graue> then i realized i can make it show only my domains and did that
08:06:32 <graue> you played with the 'iag' language at all?
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08:22:37 <calamari_> nope, is it cool?
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08:29:46 <graue> yes, it is very difficult and cool
08:30:06 <graue> it has three basic instructions, one of which does three unrelated things
08:30:29 <graue> i found it at http://sange.fi/~atehwa/small-esoteric/ and my discoveries so far are at http://illegal.coffeestops.net:3703/iag.txt
10:38:48 <graue> i'm going to do something really cool now :)
10:40:20 <graue> go on, ask me what it is
10:42:29 <fizzie> I would, but have to go eat lunch. ->
10:42:59 <graue> have fun then
10:43:12 <fizzie> Have fun with the really cool thing, whatever it is.
10:44:10 <graue> well, i noticed there's a huge amount of esoteric language information at wikipedia, but a lot of it is not really of general interest enough to properly be there
10:44:18 <graue> so i set up a new esolang wiki and i'm going to copy everything
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11:48:15 <Keymaker> hehe, good luck with esowiki graue :)
11:48:19 <Keymaker> that's actually quite neat idea
11:48:33 <Keymaker> like some place where would be detailed info from those languages
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12:04:10 <Keymaker> hiya
12:05:25 <calamari> yeah.. someone else was going to put up an esowiki, but they never finished the job :)
12:05:47 <Keymaker> kipple: what program a-500 should do. let's assume there is for example value [1] in the stack.
12:05:59 <calamari> that'll be really cool
12:06:09 <Keymaker> iirc the interpreter hadn't any underflow stuff
12:06:11 <Keymaker> yeah
12:18:38 <calamari> bbl
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12:19:16 <kipple> then the stack should be [1  -499]
12:19:29 <Keymaker> so
12:19:36 <Keymaker> there can be negative values as well?
12:19:40 <kipple> yes
12:19:43 <Keymaker> ah
12:38:09 <Keymaker> must go
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17:26:33 <Keymaker> yo
17:28:03 <Keymaker> why does google get me different results if i'm using firefox in windows and opera in linux when searching "#esoteric logs"?
17:32:21 <kipple> no idea
17:46:42 <Keymaker> yeah
19:00:31 <Keymaker> yes, my new quine record!
19:00:40 <Keymaker> (in brainfuck)
19:00:49 <Keymaker> 1251 instructions
19:09:28 <cpressey> Keymaker: i've noticed if i reload google's result pages, i get different results.  i think it randomizes them slightly
19:11:49 <Keymaker> ok
19:12:02 <Keymaker> oh, and it is 1184 instructions!
19:12:22 <Keymaker> i looked at wrong number
19:12:33 <Keymaker> i'm getting nearer 1000 limit that is my objective :)
19:15:57 <Keymaker> ah.
19:16:05 <Keymaker> i got a new idea how to make a shorter one
19:16:14 <Keymaker> probably i'll get under 1000 this time :)
19:16:16 <Keymaker> later.
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