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18:12:09 <jix> i'm writing a brainfuck interpreter for my 1register mul/div minsky machine implementation
18:12:18 <jix> the programm reader is complete
18:16:00 <jix> and a 4 byte brainfuck program needs 6kb ram
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18:18:00 <jix> i really have to write an optimizing compiler
18:19:18 <jix> 6kb ram for storing 5 0-8 values (and that's the best stack a 2nd stack would need 10kb a 3rd 15kb a 4th 18...)
18:19:36 <jix> oh and the interpreter has to multiply and divide those big numbers
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18:49:25 <pgimeno> jix: do you want to prove that 1 register is enough?
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19:05:06 <Kmkr> shapr: finnish?
19:05:19 <shapr> No, I'm from Alabama.
19:05:31 <shapr> But I lived in Finland for a few years.
19:05:50 <shapr> hyv ihltaa lament :-)
19:06:19 <lament> hellooo tto you ttoo :P
19:57:36 <lament> http://z3.ca/~lament/elise.mp3
19:58:42 <lament> working title: Elise in Furs
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20:59:55 <jix> {^Raven^}: my minsky machine compiler code is worse than the bf code
21:00:11 <jix> the interpreter was a quick hack
21:00:27 <jix> and i'm building the compiler by modifying the interpreter
21:15:14 <jix> 30% of the output file are goto commands
21:25:30 <lament> now i have to add a sax solo...
21:42:06 <fungebob> lament: i just happened on Prelude and Fugue - do you have any sample Prelude source around?
21:45:17 <lament> well, there's the tiny fibonacci that i forgot who wrote:
21:45:38 <lament> here's a factorial program:
21:49:42 <jix> is there a good visual befunge interpreter?
21:50:38 <fungebob> jix: theres the flunger for 93
21:50:50 <fungebob> http://jimbomania.com/code/flunger.html
21:51:35 <jix> it's nice for small apps but i'd like a native or sdl app
21:51:48 <lindi-> jix: there's also freshmeat.net/projects/bfdebug/ which you can run without non-free tools, almost
21:52:06 <lindi-> whoops, that's different project
21:53:09 <jix> oh and windows/gtk/kde is non-native for me
21:53:17 <lindi-> jix: check the files at calamari's web page http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/programs/bf/
21:53:34 <lindi-> jix: what do you mean by native then?
21:53:37 <jix> but it would be ok.. but i often accidentally close browser windows :(
21:54:03 <jix> befunge not brainfuck
21:54:18 <jix> lindi-: but it's not the native GUI engine
21:54:27 <lindi-> seems i can't think clearly today :)
21:54:37 <fungebob> jix: out of curiosity, can you run openGL apps via Glut or SDL?
21:54:45 <jix> fungebob: both
21:54:59 <jix> or via x11 or via native gui
21:55:12 <jix> or via *insert-toolkit-here* in x11
21:55:54 <jix> but x11 isn't as fast as quartz and it has a different look and feel
21:58:53 <jix> fungebob: the p instruction in flunger is slower than the other ones
22:00:32 <fungebob> jix: indeed, on p it recreates the string in the main textfield(linebreak \r delimited) from the 80x25 array of ints
22:00:57 <fungebob> it used to just use the string itself for storage, but got screwy on non-printable ascii chars
22:02:07 <fungebob> lament: is each line in those programs dedicated to a separate voice?
22:02:45 <fungebob> jix: now that you mention it, i bet i could optimize that. i have noticed that flash tends to play slower on the macs ive tried it on
22:05:08 <jix> i think flash doesn't use mac os x's graphic engine which is very fast and optimized for the mac h/w..
22:07:39 <jix> i wrote a filter for core image (Part of the osx graphic engine) for generating fractals(julia sets) in realtime using only the video cart
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22:13:13 <jix> nah in 3? weeks just 1 vote for http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-lazy-k-768.html
22:19:00 <fungebob> jix: see if this is any faster for you http://jimbomania.com/code/flunger.html
22:19:58 <jix> fungebob: uhm if i load the sirpinski program it doesn't look like i think it should
22:20:19 <fungebob> jix: uh, yep that is definitely borked:)
22:20:44 <fungebob> ok back to the testing phase on that one
22:21:08 <jix> it's faster
22:21:16 <jix> but p is still too slow imho
22:21:58 <fungebob> i had considered making 80*25 individual textboxes, which could speed it up but cost i dunno how much memory
22:22:57 <jix> hmm 80*25 textboxes is a lot
22:23:21 <fungebob> uh oh serpinsky looks the same in the old version too, ack what ahppened here
22:24:16 <jix> and quine2 doesn't work
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23:45:36 <BigZaphod> not really esolang, but this was fun: http://www.bigzaphod.org/life.html
23:45:42 <BigZaphod> game of life in CSS + javascript. :)
23:46:03 <BigZaphod> no browser checks and works in IE, Mozilla, safari, opera (tested so far).
23:51:17 <lament> man composing is hard.
23:54:23 <lament> (music, not functions :))
23:54:37 <shapr> I don't find it hard to come up with music, only hard to write it down.
23:55:07 <lament> maybe you have talent, or something.
23:55:11 <shapr> Not saying anything I come up with is any good though...
23:55:21 <shapr> Just that I could make a living as /dev/urandom
23:58:22 <shapr> I think I have a natural talent for doing creative stuff. I don't think I have a natural talent for programming, but it's what I prefer.
23:59:37 <BigZaphod> I've always felt a burning need to program. it can sometimes be a curse. meanwhile I often want to be able to do other creative things like draw, but can't. grass is always greener.