00:02:24 -!- calamari_ has joined. 00:08:03 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:08:20 -!- Graph has joined. 00:08:59 hey talk 00:09:21 GregorR: talk! 00:09:34 ok it works 00:10:23 graph is a social network bot 00:10:59 it analyzes who talks and paints: http://macintosh.jix.qz-b.de/graph/esoteric/esoteric-current.png 00:12:48 boring... 00:13:02 hi jix 00:13:10 calamari_: hi 00:13:29 i thought that bot is pretty cool 00:13:31 listening to some old mods while I work out the details of my adventure game 00:13:43 hehe mods are cool 00:14:00 hey, that's neat 00:15:30 {^Raven^}: putting you on the graph ;) 00:15:49 {^Raven^}: /me too 00:16:21 GregorR: hey 00:16:59 do you do the graph drawing/centering yourself? 00:17:11 no i'm using a ready to run java bot 00:17:29 but i thought about writing something like this in ruby 00:17:34 but i don't have enough time atm 00:18:52 you could have it follow the conversation 00:19:06 would never be perfect, but close enough 00:19:14 follow the conversation? 00:19:31 I don't have to say "jix" but you know I'm talking to you, because I said jix: earlier 00:19:39 the bot does that 00:21:51 test: abc 00:23:13 * GregorR wonders why calamari_ hey'd him ... 00:23:35 GregorR: http://macintosh.jix.qz-b.de/graph/esoteric/esoteric-current.png 00:23:50 social network diagram 00:24:11 -!- calamari_ has changed nick to calamari. 00:24:29 ok nick changes work 00:24:34 So if I say "jix R teh rawx0rz" often, it would show a more bold link between you and I? 00:24:48 GregorR: yes 00:24:55 hi, sorry to be late to the previous half-bird half-fish discussion... this is not exactly that but it's not very unlike that: http://funny.evilbunny.org/display/1738/ 00:24:55 but you don't have to highlite me 00:25:11 pgimeno: hey http://macintosh.jix.qz-b.de/graph/esoteric/esoteric-current.png 00:25:23 I've seen that, jix 00:25:35 I already knew about it from a guy called FennecFoxen 00:25:40 pgimeno: hehe, that's cool 00:25:48 GregorR: it is "intelligent" and just "knows" when we talk 00:25:56 *spooky* 00:26:45 it's not very difficult... it just spies on when people write lines after each other. 00:27:15 calamari: yeah, I loved that image... it's in my Evilbunny favourite list 00:27:42 ZeroOne: yes the graph drawing is more difficult.. 00:27:55 jix: well, that sure is 00:28:35 as is this one (slightly more related to this channel's topic): http://funny.evilbunny.org/display/1808/ 00:28:42 but it doesn't take much of artificial intelligence to see people send messages to each other turn by turn 00:28:53 I did some graph drawing for a class a few sesters ago.. I just constrained the points to a big circle 00:28:54 and then notice that hey, maybe they are talking together 00:29:21 pgimeno: LOL 00:29:42 ZeroOne: that's why i quoted the words 00:30:37 ok, apparently my sense of humor then just went to sleep before me. ;o 00:30:46 hehe 00:32:39 oh btw, mtve, thanks for the link to that xbox page, I loved it :) 00:37:06 this one not bad either (image file name is 'how-to-export-crypto-system-from-USA.jpg'): http://funny.evilbunny.org/display/1952 00:41:38 lol 00:45:23 What's the original software for that social network diagram? 00:46:47 Bravo Gregor, way to read the tagline on the image before asking a stupid question. 00:57:16 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 01:03:59 cpressey: hello 01:04:01 cpressey: shut up 01:04:11 cpressey: stop trying to confuse the social network tracking software! 01:06:41 -!- cmeme has quit (No route to host). 01:28:22 it apparently associates a yet unknown commenter with the writer of the last line 01:31:29 -!- calamari has left (?). 01:31:52 -!- squid has joined. 01:32:12 fizzie: test 01:32:43 -!- squid has changed nick to calamari. 01:33:07 cool, broke it :) 01:33:57 or did it erase me when I left? 01:34:18 brb 01:34:19 -!- calamari has left (?). 01:34:44 -!- calamari has joined. 01:35:01 nope.. guess I just confused it :) 01:35:20 sup, suppy? 01:35:23 -!- pgimeno has changed nick to suppy. 01:35:29 pgimeno: fine, thanks 01:35:35 -!- suppy has changed nick to pgimeno. 01:35:41 glad to hear that, suppy 01:36:00 lol 01:36:15 nah, didn't work 01:36:22 not loading for me 01:36:37 ahh, there it goes 02:06:23 -!- heatsink has joined. 04:07:34 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 04:15:19 -!- CXII has joined. 04:21:03 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 04:25:11 -!- kipple_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:26:31 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:53:38 -!- calamari has joined. 07:36:42 -!- pgimeno has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:37:22 -!- pgimeno has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:21:10 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 08:21:19 According to the social connections image, I don't talk to calamari at all. 08:48:39 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 09:42:46 -!- GregorR-L has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]"). 11:32:08 -!- jix has joined. 11:32:41 -!- kipple_ has joined. 11:43:14 moin 12:25:25 -!- CXII has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:25:45 -!- CXII has joined. 12:48:35 -!- Graph has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:49:40 -!- Graph has joined. 12:50:07 -!- CXII has changed nick to CXI. 12:50:18 -!- Graph has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:50:22 arg 13:16:01 -!- Graph has joined. 13:19:38 graph is back 13:19:46 it works now 13:20:02 i had to reset the graph 13:20:26 http://macintosh.jix.qz-b.de/graph/esoteric/current.png (still the old image but if we talk it gets updated) 15:34:49 it's boring here 15:35:09 GregorR: do something un-boring 20:55:47 -!- Graph has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:22:28 -!- calamari has joined. 21:25:05 hi 21:37:39 I'm insulted. 21:37:40 -!- kipple_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:37:48 Are you suggesting that I never do anything un-boring? 21:37:49 *sobsob* 21:38:19 hi Grebor ;) 21:38:34 (j.k.) 21:38:43 *sobsob* 21:39:38 anything exciting today? cmeme seems to be mia 21:41:23 No, I'm just waiting for DirectNet-related emails. 21:41:25 That's all. 21:41:53 have you done any 3d programming? 21:42:05 A tiny, tiny bit. 21:42:56 Because network programming > 3D graphics 21:43:31 I think it'd be cool to see that new gravity/motion esolang implemented in 3-D, showing the orbits 21:44:16 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Gravity 21:44:32 Yeah, I saw it 21:45:32 maybe Java 3D 21:45:47 since that doesn't require a #-D card afaik 21:47:22 use opengl because java 3d has problems 21:47:27 oh, hmm.. only 2d 21:47:35 Java3D has the freaky HiResCoord class. A 3-element vector of 256-bit fixed-point (128.128) numbers. 21:47:45 "This coordinate system is sufficient to describe a universe in excess of several billion light years across, yet still define objects smaller than a proton." 21:48:26 -!- GregorR_ has joined. 21:48:34 So THAT'S what that quit menu does. 21:48:46 GregorR: haha 21:48:51 -!- GregorR has quit (Nick collision from services.). 21:48:54 -!- GregorR_ has changed nick to GregorR. 21:49:13 I thought Gravity was 3-D.. oh well! 21:49:22 i need a cryptographic secure 1 bit hash function 21:49:39 How 'bout "parity" :P 21:50:13 "You might get some hash collisions with that." 21:50:19 lol 21:50:29 no it's possible to calculate a msg with given parity using simple math! 21:51:14 well it's always possible to do this with a 1 bit hash 21:51:23 some_number + hash 21:51:32 figuring out some_number should be easy 21:51:47 ok i need a 2 bit hash 21:51:50 lol 21:52:32 maybe i should calculate the WHIRLPOOL hash of the msg and take the parity of all even and all odd bits 21:52:38 WHIRLPOOL is very secure 21:52:44 so my 2 bit hash is it too 21:53:16 It's probably quite easy to calculate a message with the given 2-bit hash, too, with simple brute-forcing. 21:53:21 i'm going to encrypt all my msgs using double rot13 and sign them using my 2 bit hash 21:53:48 fizzie: psshhh i'm going to sell this technology to m$ 21:53:54 don't tell them 21:53:55 Well, it sure sounds secure. 21:54:25 and why use prime-numbers for RSA/DSA? they are so hard to compute 21:54:40 why not use 2^n+n? 21:54:45 how about digital root mod 26 21:55:03 or mod 2 heh 21:55:04 mod 26? 21:55:13 no digital root is insecure 21:55:14 They'll ask you how you will be able to recognize the odd bits (as opposed to plain old normal, non-odd bits) in messages. 21:55:16 WHIRLPOOL is secure 21:56:32 fizzie: i'll tell them that i load all bits in an exel 2020 table and take every 2nd!(they like usage of their products) 21:58:59 And where do you draw the line! Are all the bits in odd words (or out-of-context-words, like pallokala) considered odd. 22:00:57 yes! i'm using word 2020s grammar/spelling checks for detecting odd words 22:15:57 wait.. is Gravity not supposed to be able to be implemented? 22:21:43 -!- kipple has joined. 22:51:24 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 23:19:25 -!- calamari_ has joined. 23:38:39 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:54:09 -!- lindi- has quit (Remote closed the connection).