00:17:20 How do I run the ruby code posted by jix? I typed ruby and then copypasted his code and pressed enter, but it doesn't do anything 00:21:30 mm I'm off, cya :) 00:21:32 -!- Aardwolf has quit ("Ik zen der is mee weg"). 00:21:38 you must end it with CTRL-D (linux) or CTRL-Z (win) 00:21:54 dang, too late 00:24:16 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:25:21 -!- calamari has joined. 01:22:44 -!- WildHalcyon has joined. 02:05:01 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:54:52 -!- int-e has quit ("Bye!"). 03:20:16 -!- WildHalcyon has quit ("Adios!"). 04:20:13 -!- kipple has left (?). 05:45:19 -!- int-e has joined. 05:45:35 -!- int-e has left (?). 07:27:18 -!- cmeme has quit (Connection timed out). 07:27:43 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:45:10 -!- cmeme has quit (Connection timed out). 07:46:09 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:47:25 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:48:05 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:49:21 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:50:02 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:51:17 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:51:58 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:53:13 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 07:53:54 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:55:10 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 07:55:50 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:57:07 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 07:57:47 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:59:03 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 07:59:44 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:00:59 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 08:01:40 -!- cmeme has joined. 08:02:55 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 08:03:36 -!- cmeme has joined. 08:04:51 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 08:05:32 -!- cmeme has joined. 08:06:48 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 08:07:28 -!- cmeme has joined. 08:08:44 -!- cmeme has quit (Connection reset by peer). 08:09:25 -!- cmeme has joined. 08:29:39 -!- cmeme has quit (Success). 08:43:45 -!- ZeroOne has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 08:57:07 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 09:37:35 -!- ZeroOne_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 09:59:21 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 11:12:17 -!- calamari has joined. 11:12:28 hi 11:14:54 interested in comments on the following scheme: 11:15:12 cd Befunge (would change to the Befunge wiki page) 11:15:28 ls (would list files on the EsoShell:Befunge page) 11:16:01 a file would be named something like wiki:HelloWorld 11:17:00 if I wrote to "hello" it would be in RAM (not on the wiki), but I could do cp hello wiki:HelloWorld to save my changes 11:17:20 perhaps mount Befunge is more appropriate 11:17:49 anyhow.. is it too confusing? 11:18:25 hmm 11:18:40 the idea is that if I allowed regular read/write to go to the wiki, it would probably clog up the wiki will all sorts of temporary files 11:18:41 why not cvs? 11:19:03 huh? :) 11:19:06 edit, test, edit, test, cvs commit when it's ready 11:19:42 EsoShell doesn't use cvs 11:19:59 now i'm bit confused 11:20:27 graue is (or did) create a special wiki namespace EsoShell 11:20:31 you want contribute to a wiki from EsoShell? 11:20:51 so EsoShell:Befunge will be the place to store files for Befunge 11:21:12 for example HelloWorld.bf (or whatever) 11:21:36 then EsoShell can access those files from the wiki 11:22:04 this gives it permanent storage capabilities, backed up my the reverting power of the wiki 11:22:14 hmm 11:22:19 -!- tokigun has quit ("leaving"). 11:23:54 I think it'll be a cool way to share and run esoteric programs 11:24:44 does wiki: seem okay as a file prefix? 11:31:18 hmm, I wonder if there is a way to get a list of all pages in a particular wiki namespace 11:37:04 -!- tokigun has joined. 11:37:40 -!- cmeme has joined. 11:38:01 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 11:38:41 -!- cmeme has joined. 11:39:57 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 11:40:38 -!- cmeme has joined. 11:58:13 -!- cmeme has quit (Connection timed out). 11:59:28 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:00:43 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:01:24 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:02:40 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:03:21 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:04:36 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:05:16 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:06:32 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:07:12 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:08:28 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:09:09 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:10:24 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:11:05 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:12:20 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:13:01 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:14:17 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:14:57 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:16:13 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:16:53 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:18:09 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:18:49 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:20:05 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:20:46 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:22:01 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:22:42 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:23:57 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:24:38 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:25:54 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:26:34 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:27:50 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:28:31 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:29:46 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:30:27 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:31:42 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:32:12 -!- ChanServ has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:13 -!- mtve has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:14 -!- pgimeno has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:14 -!- calamari has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:14 -!- lindi- has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:14 -!- lament has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:14 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:15 -!- GregorR has quit (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:32:36 -!- ChanServ has joined. 12:32:36 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 12:33:26 -!- clog has joined. 12:33:26 -!- clog has joined. 12:33:30 -!- mtve has joined. 12:34:17 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 12:34:30 -!- cpressey has joined. 12:34:30 -!- CXI has joined. 12:34:36 -!- calamari has joined. 12:37:39 -!- puzzlet has joined. 12:39:23 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:40:37 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:41:18 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:42:24 -!- lament has joined. 12:42:34 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:42:47 -!- tokigun has joined. 12:43:14 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:44:13 -!- pgimeno has joined. 12:44:30 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:45:11 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:46:26 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:47:07 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:48:22 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 12:49:03 -!- cmeme has joined. 12:50:18 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 13:02:44 -!- J|x has joined. 13:07:43 hi jix, bye jix 13:07:45 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 13:10:39 -!- calamari has joined. 13:10:43 -!- calamari has left (?). 13:13:43 lol 13:32:03 <{^Raven^}> jix: I looked at those compression schemes you suggested, only two were better than my own: rice gave 0.001% better compression and huffman gave 5% better. I have written new algorithm which is 10% better. 13:32:25 you combined rice with mtf? 13:33:08 <{^Raven^}> no, combined my CCC1 with dictionary, it gives much better results 13:33:20 can i have your source code and test data? 13:34:50 <{^Raven^}> one sec 13:35:04 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 13:35:23 moin 10_ 13:35:27 arg 13:35:28 01_ 13:41:10 <{^Raven^}> jix: http://jonripley.com/volatile/forjix.zip 13:41:59 {^Raven^}: thanks 13:42:49 <{^Raven^}> no probs, please do not share 13:43:49 <{^Raven^}> jix: i hope that you're not entering the 2k comp, you've got all my secrets 13:44:09 {^Raven^}: hehe 13:44:36 i'd use zlib for compression *g* 13:44:47 require'zlib'... 13:45:13 <{^Raven^}> erm, i would need to code the zlib decompression myself from scratch and in less than 400 bytes of code 13:45:27 zlib is in the ruby stdlib 13:45:37 -!- J|x has changed nick to jix. 13:45:43 and my old game is written in ruby 13:46:04 but i'm not going to enter with it.. it's too bad imo 13:46:29 <{^Raven^}> I'm using BBC BASIC and coding everything from scratch 13:46:49 <{^Raven^}> using no libraries or external code 13:47:02 yes the reason i don't enter is that i used zlib and i count that as cheating 13:47:32 <{^Raven^}> same here, one guy I believe is using Java and as many libraries as he can 13:48:16 <{^Raven^}> the decompression routine for Source_Old.dat is only 120 bytes 13:48:25 source code? 13:48:48 or byte-source-code-something? 13:49:20 <{^Raven^}> yup 120 bytes of source code. 13:49:29 that's short 13:50:21 <{^Raven^}> thx. Code optimisation and algorithm design is one of my specialties 13:50:30 Compress.txt is 3kb much larger 13:50:55 <{^Raven^}> The compressor can be huge as it is not part of the final product 13:51:04 oh 13:51:07 yes... 13:52:00 <{^Raven^}> The trick is to get the best compression and have the smallest possible decompressor 13:52:16 yes 13:52:50 <{^Raven^}> My new compression algorithm becomes more efficient as the size of source data increasses 13:53:57 i'm searching my old lz77 variation code 13:54:44 31 lines of code for decompression 13:54:50 30 13:55:20 <{^Raven^}> mine is 2 lines for the current scheme and probably 5 lines for the new scheme 13:55:31 333 bytes of non-space code (the code is indented and not written for shortness) 13:57:38 -!- ChanServ has quit (Shutting Down). 13:57:51 lzjx (my lz variation) with the hard coded default settings compresses not as good as your new scheme (100 bytes larger) 13:58:13 -!- ChanServ has joined. 13:58:13 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 13:59:30 * {^Raven^} wonders if he cannot post anymore 14:00:39 you have to register your nick.. they blocked unregistered users because of spamming attacks 14:00:57 but they forgot to block /me's... 14:01:06 <{^Raven^}> i'll go do that 14:01:10 hum 14:11:06 -!- ChanServ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:06 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:07 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:07 -!- ZeroOne_ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:14 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:14 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- tokigun has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- jix has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- lament has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- cpressey has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- GregorR has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:11:16 -!- tokigun has joined. 14:12:33 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 14:12:33 -!- pgimeno has joined. 14:12:33 -!- puzzlet has joined. 14:12:33 -!- CXI has joined. 14:12:33 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 14:12:33 -!- ChanServ has joined. 14:12:33 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 14:12:41 -!- lament has joined. 14:12:41 -!- cpressey has joined. 14:12:41 -!- GregorR has joined. 14:12:43 -!- jix has joined. 14:13:15 -!- jix has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- lament has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- GregorR has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- cpressey has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- ChanServ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- ZeroOne_ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:43 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:13:58 -!- ChanServ has joined. 14:13:58 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 14:13:58 -!- CXI has joined. 14:13:58 -!- puzzlet has joined. 14:13:58 -!- pgimeno has joined. 14:13:58 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 14:13:58 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 14:14:09 -!- jix has joined. 14:14:10 -!- lament has joined. 14:14:10 -!- cpressey has joined. 14:14:10 -!- GregorR has joined. 14:15:15 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:15:15 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:15:16 -!- ZeroOne_ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:15:16 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:15:18 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:15:18 -!- jix has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:17:37 -!- CXI has joined. 14:17:37 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 14:17:37 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 14:17:56 -!- puzzlet has joined. 14:18:09 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:18:09 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:18:13 -!- ZeroOne_ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:18:13 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 14:18:54 -!- jix has joined. 14:20:31 -!- pgimeno has joined. 14:20:33 -!- puzzlet has joined. 14:20:35 -!- CXI has joined. 14:20:42 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 14:22:05 -!- kipple has joined. 14:35:13 -!- ZeroOne_ has joined. 15:40:36 -!- kipple has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:36 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:37 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:50 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:51 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:51 -!- jix has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:52 -!- lament has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:52 -!- GregorR has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:52 -!- cpressey has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:40:52 -!- ChanServ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 15:41:40 -!- ChanServ has joined. 15:41:40 -!- puzzlet has joined. 15:41:40 -!- CXI has joined. 15:41:40 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 15:41:40 -!- kipple has joined. 15:41:40 -!- pgimeno has joined. 15:41:40 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 15:41:56 -!- lament has joined. 15:41:56 -!- cpressey has joined. 15:41:56 -!- GregorR has joined. 15:41:58 -!- jix has joined. 16:06:05 -!- kipple has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 16:06:05 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 16:06:15 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 16:06:15 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 16:06:16 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 16:07:10 -!- pgimeno has joined. 16:07:10 -!- CXI has joined. 16:07:12 -!- kipple has joined. 16:07:12 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 16:07:15 -!- puzzlet has joined. 16:37:14 -!- ZeroOne_ has changed nick to ZeroOne. 17:04:54 -!- theotherside has joined. 17:45:30 -!- cmeme has joined. 17:45:51 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:46:32 -!- cmeme has joined. 17:47:47 -!- cmeme has quit (Client Quit). 17:48:28 -!- cmeme has joined. 18:45:04 -!- theotherside has left (?). 18:55:34 -!- graue has joined. 18:55:37 hello 18:56:01 if whoever does the DNS for www.esolangs.org could update it, that would be nice 18:56:12 the server changed its IP address, but esoteric.voxelperfect.net still works 19:03:54 www.esolangs.org seems to work for me ... 19:07:14 including the wiki? 19:07:29 maybe the DNS was changed and hasn't propagated here, then 19:07:39 Yeah, wiki works for me. 19:07:43 Seems likely. 19:08:21 wooby owns it ( i scanned my logs) 19:09:09 according to domain-whois his email address is completelycrazy AT(Yes AT) aol.com 19:09:57 he delegated it to someone 19:10:10 calamari, I think 19:11:59 www.esolangs.org works fine for me as well, but the wiki gives a database error 19:12:25 that means you're accessing the old server 19:12:51 indeed. the other address works 19:14:22 anyway, we had a discussion here the other day about changing the default skin of the wiki to monobook (same as wikipedia). I would definately prefer that, and a couple of others agreed. 19:18:49 -!- wildhalcyon has joined. 19:26:46 think of it as a motivation to get an account (so you can switch to a better looking skin) 19:26:54 hehe :) 19:31:16 -!- cmeme has quit (Connection timed out). 19:34:14 -!- graue has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.12 -- Are we there yet?"). 20:08:45 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:24:35 -!- kipple has joined. 20:27:30 -!- cmeme has joined. 20:27:51 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:28:31 -!- cmeme has joined. 21:10:11 -!- int-e has joined. 21:58:02 -!- Aardwolf has joined. 21:58:07 Hey, what's this? http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Chem 22:01:55 apparently something that wants to be deleted 22:06:22 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 22:07:16 the summary for the edit says "(Just test)". 22:07:37 thanks for notifying, Aardwolf 22:07:44 I've moved it to Esolang:Sandbox 22:08:07 good idea 23:42:22 -!- CXI has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:42:22 -!- pgimeno has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:42:22 -!- int-e has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:42:24 -!- puzzlet has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:42:31 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:42:31 -!- cmeme has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:03 -!- int-e has joined. 23:44:48 -!- Aardwolf has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:49 -!- lament has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- GregorR has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- cpressey has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- int-e has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- kipple has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- wildhalcyon has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:44:56 -!- ChanServ has quit (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:52:00 -!- kipple has joined. 23:52:00 -!- wildhalcyon has joined. 23:53:23 -!- ChanServ has joined. 23:53:23 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 23:53:34 -!- Aardwolf has joined. 23:53:34 -!- lament has joined. 23:53:34 -!- cpressey has joined. 23:53:34 -!- GregorR has joined. 23:54:08 -!- CXI has joined. 23:54:08 -!- cmeme has joined. 23:54:08 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 23:54:14 -!- int-e has joined. 23:54:14 -!- puzzlet has joined. 23:54:54 -!- pgimeno has joined. 23:56:41 -!- clog has joined. 23:56:41 -!- clog has joined. 23:56:47 -!- tokigun has joined. 23:56:50 -!- kipple has joined. 23:56:50 -!- wildhalcyon has joined. 23:57:06 -!- ZeroOne has joined. 23:57:11 -!- mtve has joined.