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06:38:01 <GregorR> I'm writing a libc that works on any (UNIXish) OS :)
06:38:12 <GregorR> By detecting the OS at runtime :)
06:39:00 <calamari> everyone claims it was a unix ripoff ;)
06:39:49 <calamari> actually, I was messing around in dosbox the oother day after not having to use it for several months (Linux).. was quite primitive. Can't believe I used to like it
06:40:07 <GregorR> Anybody have a NetBSD/i386 box?
06:40:25 <GregorR> Mind testing if this crossbinary works on it?
06:40:36 <GregorR> I'm not sure if my genericish BSD hacks work with NetBSD.
06:40:51 <cpressey> GregorR: the box is kind of busy building stuff atm, but i can give it a shot in the morning
06:40:57 <calamari> Chris: how is your family? any kids yet?
06:41:06 <GregorR> cpressey: Thanks, lemme post a link.
06:41:21 <cpressey> how's it going with you calamari?
06:41:43 <calamari> got my financial aid finally, so school is paid for
06:41:54 <GregorR> cpressey: http://www.codu.org/HelloWorldX.elf
06:43:30 <cpressey> GregorR: ok... so how is it supposed to work, exactly? i can try it out on FreeBSD 4.x right now if you like.
06:43:47 <GregorR> I already know that it works on FreeBSD *shrugs*
06:43:52 <GregorR> Just chmod 0755 it and run it.
06:44:08 <GregorR> It should work on Linuxen (GNU or no), BSD and Solaris on x86
06:44:23 <cpressey> ELF binary type "0" not known.
06:44:42 <GregorR> Hmm, it shouldn't be set to type 0, I thought I changed that XDF
06:44:55 <GregorR> OK, forgot to change it :P
06:45:02 <GregorR> Oh, I know what happened, strip unset it.
06:45:41 <cpressey> ok, there's still something i'm missing - if it's a libc, why am i suposed to run it? shouldn't i be like linking to it or something?
06:45:52 <GregorR> I linked my libc into a hello world.
06:46:29 <GregorR> (My libc = newlib's OS-independent stuff + some nasty hackery for OS-dependent stuff)
06:46:32 <cpressey> is the hang after printing the message intentional?
06:46:47 <GregorR> ATM I know of know way to halt the program that works on every OS :P
06:47:01 <GregorR> So I left a hang there for the moment, so as to not make worthless core files.
06:47:55 <cpressey> i'll try it on netbsd when the box is free, and get back to you.
06:48:02 <GregorR> That would be awesome, thanks :)
06:52:31 <cpressey> great, now you;ve got me thinking about what it would take to support >1 instruction sets... assuming ELF doesn't support that... it probably does, but that makes it uninteresting. it would be far more interesting to have to write a multi-machine polyglot that detects the processor and jumps to an appropriate interpretation routine which runs the actual code, written in some VM
06:57:27 <GregorR> I'm not even trying for that.
07:21:26 <calamari> anyone happen to knwo the correct ip to the wiki? http://207.7.108.149/wiki doesn't seem to work
07:22:36 <calamari> kinda weird too, because esoteric.voxelperfect.net supposedly resolves to that..
07:31:50 <int-e> That's not weird at all, it is apparently running a web server that serves multiple domains and uses the HTTP Host: header field to distinguish between those.
07:35:40 <calamari> so how do I find out the real ip
07:35:47 <int-e> that is the real IP
07:36:00 <int-e> but you need the host name as part of the HTTP query to make it work, like this:
07:36:04 <int-e> > nc 207.7.108.149 80
07:36:04 <int-e> GET /wiki/Main_Page HTTP/1.0
07:36:04 <int-e> Host: esoteric.voxelperfect.net
07:36:21 <calamari> hmm, then I don't get it, because graue was saying it was broken
07:36:22 <int-e> [newline] -> get the mainpage of the wiki
07:39:02 <calamari> <graue> if whoever does the DNS for www.esolangs.org could update it, that would be nice 17:57:17 <graue> the server changed its IP address, but esoteric.voxelperfect.net still works
07:39:18 <calamari> maybe I need to wait until graue gets here to find out the new ip
07:41:26 <int-e> oh fun, I see what he means. 'www.esolangs.org has address 70.85.100.4' '[70.85.100.4] is pendrell.textdrive.com' 'pendrell.textdrive.com has address 207.7.108.149'
07:46:26 <int-e> and the error can be seen on http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
07:46:48 <int-e> while http://www.esolangs.org/wiki gets forwarded to voxelperfect so that works
07:47:11 <calamari> I changed the ip for esolangs.org to 207.7.108.149.. hopefully that'll work then :)
07:48:13 <calamari> cool.. my uneducated guess still worked then :)
07:48:50 <calamari> I left www.esolangs.org alone, so it should still be broken
07:48:55 <int-e> hrm, could you change www.esolangs.org, too?
07:49:08 <calamari> int-e: I didn't want to change both, in case I was wrong
07:50:47 <calamari> done.. now spreading around the globe :)
07:55:34 <int-e> ah, primary nameservers are updated ... up to an hour from now.
07:56:19 <calamari> well, either wait an hour or type it the other way for now ;)
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09:37:03 <calamari_> distilled a divisible by 4 DFA down from 100's of states to 4, once I realized the obvious..
09:38:13 <calamari_> input is decimal, but only the last two binary bits matter (00=divis by 4). so mult by 10 (dec) and add the next digit. transition table is the answer mod 3
09:38:48 <calamari_> I should release my DFA interpreter, but I haven't finished all the JavaDoc comments
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17:02:21 <fungebob> Does anyone have a copy of the PingPong esolang zip file?
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19:35:43 <wildhalcyon> I've got a copy of the pingpong zip, I'll email it to graue to put on the wiki file archive
19:36:50 <wildhalcyon> I haven't had time to get to it because I replaced my HD. I've got it though. I'll send it tonight
19:44:30 <wildhalcyon> I've also got the 'Y' .lha file, but I think that's available from the False page anyways, and aside from resembling the Funge-98 Fingerprints, isnt exactly new
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21:42:51 <graue> something weird is up with the wiki
21:43:05 <graue> it just shows a preview when I try to save anything
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22:06:27 <cpressey> GregorR: yup, it works on NetBSD.
22:06:48 <GregorR> AHHHH, I ROCK EVEN MORE THAN I THOUGHT I DID!
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22:21:18 <fungebob> oh yea, thatd be great, jim@jimbomania.com
22:21:51 <wildhalcyon> The implementation is less than adequate though
22:24:45 <wildhalcyon> hmm... sent. You should check your mail eventually
22:29:53 <wildhalcyon> Assuming for a second that a tryte (ternary equiv. to byte) is standardized at 3^6 = 729, what kind of characters would you like to see included in a tryte character code?
22:32:14 <wildhalcyon> So far, I have most of the obvious printables from ASCII (anything on the keyboard), the european inflected characters, greek, and a few non-printable (tab, EOF, NULL, etc.)
22:44:46 <kipple> graue: the wiki seems to work fine for me. just entered some text in the sandbox
22:46:10 <kipple> btw, what's with the oranges? ;)
22:47:25 <graue> well, everyone was complaining about the mediawiki default logo
22:47:53 <wildhalcyon> I never complained. I'd like that on record.
22:47:57 <graue> the wiki works fine for me too, now
22:48:00 <wildhalcyon> The oranges are alright, but.. its not much of a logo
22:48:13 <kipple> I was just wondering whether it had some esoteric symbolism, or if it's just an arbitrary image
22:48:37 <wildhalcyon> I think a nice Rube Goldberg machine would be suitable.
22:49:12 <kipple> though perhaps a bit difficult to fit into such a small space
22:49:17 <graue> the oranges are pretty
22:49:58 <wildhalcyon> Do the ones in that picture taste good as well?
22:50:45 <kipple> they are a bit too pixellated for my taste
22:56:10 <fungebob> hey wildhalcyon , thanks a lot for the zip
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23:18:14 <graue> I can substitute limes for the current oranges if anyone would prefer those
23:19:08 <kipple> hmm. lime might be slightly more esoteric than oranges ;)
23:26:10 <calamari> graue: did you happen to see the "votes" the other day for change of default wiki style to monobook?
23:26:30 <calamari> was it called monobook.. 2nd guessing my memory
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23:36:18 <graue> wildhalcyon: if you can get me a high-quality, PD melon image, then sure
23:38:04 <calamari> graue: can't remember the exact day, sorry.. it seems like a popular change, though
23:38:32 <graue> you know you can change it in your account, right?
23:41:04 <graue> so who cares what the default is?
23:43:32 <graue> oh well, I changed it anyway
23:43:42 <graue> sure makes it less obvious whether you're logged in or not
23:45:08 <graue> what the heck is http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/%EB%8C%80%EB%AC%B8
23:45:09 <calamari> thanks for changing it though :)
23:45:28 <calamari> graue: there was interest in a Korean wiki
23:45:49 <calamari> graue: we were investigating a way to do that without having two different wikis
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23:57:00 <calamari> graue: to answer your question, tohugh.. that's "Main Page" in Korean :)
23:58:00 <calamari> graue: for what I was seeing, it was possible to have the "Main Page" link go to that Korean page if their language was set to Korean
23:58:12 <calamari> graue: only an admin can do it, though