< 1125793302 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1125793302 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1125800449 0 :kubient!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"running(out)" < 1125800985 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1125804843 0 :wildhalcyon!n=700af741@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1125807691 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1125807713 0 :CXII!n=Sanity@dialup-216.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1125810178 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1125812240 0 :wildhalcyon!n=700af741@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1125812419 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1125820799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1125820800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1125822864 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye!" < 1125830468 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Shutting Down < 1125832241 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1125832378 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1125832378 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1125832405 0 :jix!i=jix@p5489CF44.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1125832454 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091b7c.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1125832833 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1125835594 0 :Aardwolf!n=neusring@dD57653CA.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1125836905 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.128.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1125842495 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1125843673 0 :xyzz1!n=Internet@cup-ip-nas-1-p106.telkom-ipnet.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1125849843 0 :xyzz1!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1125852596 0 :jix!i=jix@p5489CF44.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1125852621 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1125852888 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail Re, god of sun < 1125852948 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1125854299 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1125856038 0 :sp3tt!n=chatzill@cust-148-133.elhandel.umeaenergi.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1125857897 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1125857906 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello hello < 1125859161 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi hi < 1125859777 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1125859779 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1125859795 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1125860026 0 :wildhalcyon!n=700af741@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1125860031 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1125860130 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I miss? < 1125860194 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1125860265 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, alright < 1125860273 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive been very un-eso lately < 1125860905 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1125861584 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to write a cool brainfuck program... < 1125861681 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cool? < 1125861686 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got anything in mind? < 1125861761 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1125861846 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculating pi would be a cool task < 1125861852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a bit too difficult < 1125861862 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. and here I was thinking a MUD < 1125861864 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1125861887 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1125861903 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUD is a bit problematic without sockets or more than 1 IO < 1125861908 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf lacks sophisticated networking < 1125861933 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get around thaat with an interpreter < 1125861950 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my language lacks graphics support, but I hope to implement a tiled game sometime < 1125862047 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to calculate pi without division... < 1125862073 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do division. it's just a bit hard < 1125862080 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and slow < 1125862107 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when did speed become important for vf progs? ;) < 1125862118 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have to use arbitrary precision anyway... < 1125862133 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: since i want to get 10 digits in under 2 days < 1125862140 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... Im trying to remember how much math was involved in the digit-extractor < 1125862154 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decimal is stupid... < 1125862164 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im a hex man myself < 1125862171 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really cpu intensive to convert binary to decimal < 1125862184 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or trit. I have a dream of someday implementing a balanced ternary international character code < 1125862240 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no 10^n==2^m (where n and m are natural) < 1125862275 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why we need to use FFTs or complex recursive algorithms for fast binary=>decimal conversion < 1125862387 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PiFormulas.html has a digit-extration algorithm < 1125862415 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know it but its hex < 1125862438 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I forgot about that < 1125862593 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arbitrary precision division in bf. That should be your first step. At least you could get the gregory workin' < 1125862724 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i think i'll write something easier < 1125862763 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1125862774 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a befunge interpreter? has that been done yet? ;) < 1125862792 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. did you say easier? < 1125862794 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: hmm befunge 93 should be not too hard < 1125862815 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. it has a very limited code-space < 1125862824 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and limited precision < 1125862944 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mtf algorithm < 1125863581 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFT as in fast fourier transform or am I missing something? < 1125863655 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1125863711 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know a good way to FFT non-power-of-two images by the way < 1125863733 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know FFT < 1125863746 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to compress images? < 1125863782 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but experiment with their frequency domain < 1125863802 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some C++ stuff to calculate the FFT and edit it and such < 1125863810 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda fun what you can do :) < 1125863815 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about FFTs < 1125863837 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know that they do something similar but not equal to wavelet transformations < 1125863868 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the FT is the best known transformation, and wavelet is some much more complex modern thing :) < 1125863886 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wavelet is simpler than FFT < 1125863906 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just hard to find good informations about it < 1125863976 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the easiest wavelet transformation is..(Haar wavelet a bit simplified) take 2 samples calculate the arithmetic-mean and the difference store the mean into the average signal the difference in the detail signal < 1125863983 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat the process on the avarage signal as often as you want < 1125864047 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other (better) wavelet transformations are as simple as that but you take more than 2 samples and use multiplication with some mysterious values... < 1125864571 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1125864622 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know the wavelet transform was this simple. I have some courses about signal processing and they're all about fourier transform, DCT, and such, and wavelet was only mentioned a few time as this "mysterious transformation used in jpeg2000 that is so mysterious" < 1125864757 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1125864888 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to find informations about wavelet transforms < 1125864924 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything i found was too mathematical and too much theory at the beginning instead of simple examples < 1125864940 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my brother has a book about wavelet transformations that is really great < 1125870154 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1125871728 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1125872796 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.150.84.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1125874270 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1125876453 0 :zauberzebra!n=zebra@dsl-084-060-156-084.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1125877342 0 :calamari_!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.114.112.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1125877507 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1125877722 0 :zauberzebra!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?