< 1127347454 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1127347455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moxie < 1127347467 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this Moxie thing? < 1127347510 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the ORIGINAL soda. < 1127347516 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They only sell it in Maine, but I found a distributor. < 1127347546 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metrocast.net/~moxieman/WhatIs.html < 1127347580 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it in the 'pedia < 1127347599 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1127347618 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. the word moxie comes from the drink, and not the other way around :) < 1127347640 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup 8-D < 1127347838 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing what you can learn on #esoteric < 1127348489 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.111.84.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127348502 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127348728 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoi < 1127348737 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1127348739 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: I think Moxie pretty well fits the definition of an esoteric soda ;) < 1127348779 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1127348810 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but according to wikipedia it is the official state soft drink of Maine.... not so esoteric < 1127348817 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi GregorR and kipple < 1127348822 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1127348825 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola calamari and squid. < 1127348832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been implementing NULL for EsoShell < 1127348838 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome XD < 1127348839 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NULL rocks. < 1127349959 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127350179 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@user-0c8h2a8.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127350312 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if it ain't 2bit < 1127350627 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: i won the compo :) < 1127350627 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I want some moxie too! < 1127350627 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you do, it's awesome. < 1127350627 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you live? < 1127350665 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealSoda has retailers all over the USA it turns out :-P < 1127350718 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raleigh, NC < 1127350784 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, judging by their site, "all over" is limited to the western states < 1127350815 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.moxie.info/njmox.htm < 1127350831 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how close to you either of those cities are *shrugs* < 1127350869 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very close considering its new jersey... < 1127350900 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a nearby one in north carolina though! < 1127350903 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa... < 1127350955 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa? < 1127351036 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I know where the store is, which is surprising, since my knowledge of the area in and around my city is *very* limited. < 1127351471 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: where in raleigh do you live? < 1127351549 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: because I live in Cary, NC :P < 1127351582 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I live off of Avent Ferry < 1127351631 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, right on... how long you been in the area? < 1127351643 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a year < 1127351669 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like it? < 1127351723 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too much. Too humid < 1127351764 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a dryer area? < 1127351775 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Seattle < 1127351786 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, also a much colder area, huh? < 1127351853 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :During the summer, YES < 1127351913 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... see, I"m up here from FL, so it's the winters that kill me... < 1127352006 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winters are a little colder here, compared with Seattle, but just barely < 1127352125 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that surprises me... < 1127352167 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apparently a lot of people expect Seattle to be like 10 degrees in the winter < 1127352190 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We rarely see < 30 though < 1127352207 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1127352314 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a huge deal < 1127352360 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's completely tollerable... < 1127352389 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders when someone's going to complain about the off-topic convo :P < 1127352455 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apparently the "topic" is the archives (not that Im complaining about the handy archive link) < 1127352599 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1127353022 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to read this paper concerning my esolang, but I honestly can't make heads or tails of it. They use (and fail to explain) a lot of terminology, and wikipedia is only helping so much < 1127353332 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate jargon-heads... < 1127353402 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it looks like it was a phd thesis paper... < 1127353429 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain it... someone was trying to impress thier prof... < 1127353435 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: this is #esoteric. Only complaints about on-topic convo are accepted < 1127353453 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: duely noted :P < 1127353486 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? Then I challenge you to a duel! < 1127353500 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: congrats! < 1127353522 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 years in a row.. hehe < 1127353546 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins < 1127353563 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know anything about the density of regular languages? < 1127353568 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just the 2 games? < 1127353580 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: density? < 1127353679 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has to do with how many strings are in a language v. how many ways to make those strings.. or something < 1127353714 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of valid tokens? < 1127353745 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :identifiers? expressions? < 1127353790 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest, Im not sure. < 1127353849 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL8/Moreira/moreira8.pdf This is the paper Im looking at, the reference to density is on page 3. < 1127353898 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not. It seems to just be saying "the number of strings in the language" < 1127353938 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"of length n" seems ambiguous though < 1127353986 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1127354018 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that it doesn't seem to be a density from what Im used to of the term.. < 1127354018 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1127354191 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1127354307 0 :{^Raven^}!n=Ravenswo@82-38-204-252.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1127354346 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: at the posted closing of entries just the two < 1127354351 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: i hope the comp.lang.c topic police don't join #esoteric < 1127354491 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the contrary, they're quite welcome to < 1127354508 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided they stay off-topic, of course :) < 1127354564 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to imagine a significant proportion of clc exploding with indignation < 1127354579 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool.. I've completely busted up EsoShell with all my changes :) < 1127354595 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those? < 1127354598 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't expect any new versions for a while, lol < 1127354643 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent, that makes me feel better about forgetting the easel implementation specs (good thing I actually documented it:) < 1127354659 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: more powerful console (move around, character attributes), binary files, filesystem program loader, etc < 1127354684 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that many of these things are interrelated < 1127354713 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I get partway into writing one then I have to change something else < 1127354728 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127354738 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there < 1127354765 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things that I really want to do is change the shell into a program just like everything else < 1127354788 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will open up the possibility of shell scripts < 1127354817 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been wanting to give PESOIX the concept of disk images that can be manipulated using your EsoAPI < 1127354848 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the binary i/o will be handy < 1127354880 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: you might as well implement the linux kernel right away. Seems like that's where you're going :D < 1127354896 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that way sometimes < 1127354910 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EsoShell? < 1127354924 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoshell.kidsquid.com < 1127354931 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk to mess with things < 1127354984 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm off to bed, hopefully will have some more time to work on PESOIX soon < 1127355042 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is writing a smallish compiler that targets eight languages atm < 1127360222 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1127362517 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION understands now. Density of a language = number of strings in the language < 1127362537 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? number of strings? < 1127362580 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means the number of strings, like "a", "b", "ab", "abababab"... etc < 1127362621 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paper I was reading was concerned with finite language -> languages that have a finite number of strings in them < 1127362639 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. wouldn't most languages be practically infinite? < 1127362720 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, many are, but there's plenty of finite ones as well < 1127362762 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though run-on sentences are a problem, english is infinite < 1127363054 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an example of a finite language? < 1127363149 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, {a, b, ab, ba} < 1127363156 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 strings < 1127363163 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not useful, really < 1127363179 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge 93 would be finite because the code size is restricted. am I right? < 1127363194 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1127363210 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any Turing complete language would automatically be infinite < 1127363216 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although its very large, you're right, it is finite < 1127363226 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, a TC language is < 1127363243 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strings within glypho are finite - there are 15 of them < 1127363252 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge 93 codespace is only 80x25 cells. not very large < 1127363283 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you have lots of symbol combinations within it < 1127363287 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1127363319 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how is glypho finite? you can combine the 15 strings in an infinite number of ways, cant you? < 1127363367 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glypho itself is infinite, but the individual strings are not < 1127363405 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't think there are any languages where individual words have infinite length... < 1127363426 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some < 1127363467 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an example of such a word? < 1127363479 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a joke by the way) < 1127363492 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, good.. cause I was gonna start typin' < 1127363506 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127363537 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, the problem I was trying to compute was the overall inefficiency of glypho. < 1127363585 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I have an underlying symbol set and encode it in glypho strings of length n, how much overall loss do I experience? < 1127363746 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the english alphabet, the efficiency is low: 15/(26^4), but for a 2-bit number (smallest possible to encode in glypho) the overall efficiency is 15/4^4= 15/16 < 1127363844 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry - funny math there < 1127363848 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 15/64 < 1127364128 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-128-16.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127364254 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@119.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127364294 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1127364298 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hullo. < 1127364469 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127364527 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Gregor < 1127364577 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you guys regulars here? < 1127364618 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say that < 1127364625 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been recently, but in the past, no. I guess I would like to consider myself to be a regular < 1127364645 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be. < 1127364652 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's on my auto-join list. < 1127364654 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though addicts might be a better term < 1127364660 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I open IRC every day. < 1127364694 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too. My computer is on all the time, except when I'm asleep, and I'm usually always on here < 1127364719 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first thing I do when I get back to my computer is check my email, the second thing I do is check the #esoteric logs < 1127365072 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker's making some sort of SECRET LANGUAGE? < 1127365090 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND he's not telling us about it < 1127365103 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence "secret" :-P < 1127365121 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, isn't it horrible?! < 1127365126 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1127365130 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's like Microsoft. < 1127365131 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he IS telling you about it. otherwise you wouldn't know < 1127365148 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's marketing. < 1127365153 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lose something important. Lose everything you have with the world of viruses and trojans that run on Windows!" < 1127365167 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point kipple. He's told us that it exists, but withheld other details < 1127365196 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm having trouble parsing ORK < 1127365204 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know pyparsing very well yet though. < 1127365208 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that has a lot to do with it. < 1127365209 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not surprised somehow (no offense) :) < 1127365223 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to make it look ahead to find "is to" and not parse it as part of the name :D < 1127365382 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't a very active channel < 1127365411 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric programming doesn't often make the front-page news either. < 1127365423 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1127365440 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of one on slashdot < 1127365455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashdot is not news. < 1127365459 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even entertainment news. < 1127365462 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just stupid. < 1127365482 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree. < 1127365489 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, everyone disagrees :P < 1127365494 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashdot is serious advertisement is what it is. < 1127365507 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because most of the comments are incredibly stupid doesn't make the articles they link to stupid < 1127365519 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never even get anywhere near the comments. < 1127365528 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The articles are just irrelevent and usually a waste of ones time. < 1127365530 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comments arent worth reading < 1127365573 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is of course all just in my (particularly negative) opinion of Slashdot. < 1127365601 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a matter of fact, slashdot is where I first found out about esolangs < 1127365651 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone posted a link to chris' brainfuck page < 1127365663 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly where I found out about them, but I do know the first one I discovered with befunge < 1127365696 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, I had "heard" of intercal before, I'd never read up on it < 1127365716 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I'd heard about INTERCAL too before < 1127365750 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, let me change my point a bit: Slashdot /is now/ bad, but /used/ to be OK. It's gotten progressively worse over the year. < 1127365765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*years < 1127365782 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashdot is god!!!! < 1127365787 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all children of slashdot < 1127365813 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I had to sit in a "Christ's Children Food Ministry" while waiting for the guy to get my Moxie. < 1127365833 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they have a "convert and you can eat" program, which is so subversive it makes me vomit with anger. < 1127365853 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?! < 1127365868 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dont happen to know what church is sponsoring this, do you? < 1127365873 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a clue. < 1127365878 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean they only serve believers? < 1127365881 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent as little time in there as possible. < 1127365884 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I could tell. < 1127365887 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that legal? < 1127365893 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be legal < 1127365899 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would turn all christians against them < 1127365899 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the state laws, I imagine < 1127365901 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a charity, they could give stuff to whoever they pleased. < 1127365902 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be religous discrimination < 1127365923 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR has a point < 1127365935 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its no more discrimination than african-american scholarships are discrimination < 1127365941 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1127365954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less so, because it's a changeable (sort of) feature. < 1127365962 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if someone starts a charity that only gives to white people, that would be legal? I find that hard to believe < 1127365989 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: Would you consider a charity that will only give to African American's to be acceptable? If so, you're a hypocrite. < 1127365996 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't < 1127366004 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good :) < 1127366045 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, even THAT didn't damper the mood on getting Moxie ^_^ < 1127366055 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127366072 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Peer < 1127366076 0 :Peer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahaha! < 1127366079 0 :Peer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have struck again! < 1127366085 0 :Peer!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1127366093 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's Peer? < 1127366096 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn pressure < 1127366101 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127366102 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1127366107 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old Firefox, how I love random errors! < 1127366127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite how I love Firefox, I have to agree. < 1127366134 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not anywhere near as stable as they'd like you to believe. < 1127366142 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: Beta 1.5 is fun to crash < 1127366180 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 1.0.6, so.. probably doesn't crash as much as 1.5, but still, pretty regularly. < 1127366191 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system isn't exactly swimming with stability though. < 1127366209 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I crash 1.0.6 very rarely < 1127366213 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses Opera which almost never crash < 1127366219 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something's brainfucked on my motherboard. Probably needs to be replaced, but until I can afford my food and rent, motherboard is on backburner < 1127366311 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is smart. Finally understands everything in the phD paper < 1127366349 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a VERY educational website on formal language syntax that helped me through it < 1127366365 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which PhD paper? < 1127366411 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figuring out that 11*+11*2(1+2)*+11*2(1+2)*3(1+2+3)*+11*2(1+2)*3(1+2+3)*4(1+2+3+4)* meant the 15 glypho strings was tough < 1127366441 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrogant: this paper: http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL8/Moreira/moreira8.pdf < 1127366735 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got symbols that I don't understand. < 1127366736 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127366806 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was right there with you this afternoon Arrogant < 1127366866 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is worse: http://theory.csail.mit.edu/~yekhanin/Papers/acct2004_I.pdf < 1127366973 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a brief look on the article and quickly closes it again < 1127366979 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1127366980 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo. Set operators that I don't remember. < 1127366988 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even go as far as to open the article :-P < 1127366990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too afraid. < 1127367002 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to be immasculated by a PDF. < 1127367010 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only in High School Calculus :( < 1127367043 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're pretty good for only doing HS calc then arrogant. I wouldn't have even been close to understanding that in HS. < 1127367064 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know that there're some set operators < 1127367069 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's plenty more that I don't understand < 1127367071 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now Im starting to get the hang of it. Most of this knowledge is all self-study stuff. < 1127367087 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll wait until I finish this year < 1127367097 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think that 2nd paper had anything useful for me in it... < 1127367116 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I've decided to define names and such with SkipTo("is to") etc < 1127367141 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be able to do "When ^!$351\n\n is to 15!!\a:" if you want to. < 1127367164 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127367167 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spec doesn't define what a name could be!~ < 1127367168 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127367204 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't newlines have a special meaning though? < 1127367211 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1127367233 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that how you separate code lines < 1127367531 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, newlines separate code lines. < 1127367538 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that ought not to work. < 1127367555 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the other characters are fine, though using alphanumeric + _ would be consistant with the -to-C++ compiler. < 1127367578 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1127367580 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1127367583 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on it. < 1127367635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, you haven't exactly lived up to your nick :-P < 1127367699 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do in #python. < 1127367718 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough for me. < 1127367743 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1127367809 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if I insulted Python, presumably you would start being more arrogant? < 1127367816 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably. < 1127367851 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with indentation being significant?! Making any whitespace significant is totally idiotic. < 1127367871 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the language whitespace? < 1127367873 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like having whitespace separate code lines? < 1127367886 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I was kidding to rile up Arrogant ;) < 1127367893 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python blocks are defined by tabs kipple < 1127367897 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1127367898 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not tabs < 1127367900 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indentation < 1127367901 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1127367908 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to whitespace in ORK < 1127367913 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1127367913 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1127367915 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually enforces good coding practices, which is good. < 1127367918 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1127367928 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes it shitty for one-liners. < 1127367930 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But oh well. < 1127367932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1127367937 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still try anyway. < 1127367944 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote 99 beers in one line < 1127367963 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just all agree that Perl is terrible and go on ;) < 1127367963 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda like reading an esoteric language < 1127367987 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print "\n".join("%(n)s%(a)s%(b)s,\n%(n)s%(a)s!\nTake one down, pass it around,\n%(m)s%(d)s%(b)s!\n"%{"n":n,"a":(n>1and" bottles"or" bottle")+" of beer","b":" on the wall","m":(n-1or"No more"),"d":(n==2and" bottle"or" bottles")+" of beer"}for n in range(99,0,-1)) < 1127367994 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is happy with that statement < 1127368086 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the statement about perl, I meant < 1127368115 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1127368125 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night kipple. < 1127368161 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should go too. Im not finding the info I need, and I have to be up in 6 hours < 1127368216 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later Wildhalcyon. < 1127369216 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127371002 0 :Paragon!i=Arrogant@45.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127371070 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.111.14.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127371152 0 :Paragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1127372067 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127373194 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1127373254 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1127373369 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hullo < 1127373560 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1127373605 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#esoteric: Join it for the insightful conversations!) < 1127373638 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi noogaGregorR < 1127373652 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transporter accident!!! < 1127373669 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fly! < 1127373681 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! < 1127373705 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.deepwood.net/~drlion/snusp/sample-code.snusp << looks like a plan of a rail station < 1127373882 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1127373893 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.mine.nu:8080/projects/worb/eg/or-gate.worb << that looks like a roguelike dungeon < 1127374077 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1127374090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to create something more interesting than SADOL < 1127374135 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a 3-d language, where you program with eye-crossing stereograms < 1127374164 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that only 2 1/2-d < 1127374182 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, implementation would be hard ;p < 1127374202 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey creates cool languages ;p < 1127374216 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of them < 1127374457 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm hehe < 1127374563 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to put linux into my MP3 player :) < 1127374640 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it doesn't work... < 1127375295 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eye-crossing stereograms = unbelievably cool < 1127375299 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why aren't there more of them? < 1127375999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1127376000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1127377599 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1127377602 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: there are mp3 players that can run linux? < 1127377607 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1127377614 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the point :) < 1127377634 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to hack one ;p < 1127377641 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, which one? < 1127377684 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MuVo < 1127377785 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creative NOMAD MuVo NX 256 MB < 1127377811 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the os part of the 256mb, or is it separate? < 1127377828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should say the mp3 player :) < 1127377853 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :256MB are for songs :-) < 1127377869 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS space is ~1MB < 1127377886 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you change it? < 1127377889 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i tried to put old kernel there < 1127377925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest of things, like lcd driver and some stuf were in that space for songs < 1127377929 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1127377950 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i fucked up < 1127377960 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i have blank mp3 player < 1127378042 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you rewrite that 1mb area? < 1127378131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used a little program < 1127378135 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomad bootflasher < 1127378146 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you reflash it? < 1127378163 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1127378174 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if that'd work on a muvo^2.. it has larger storage < 1127378194 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a display :) < 1127378199 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1127378210 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may try, but don't ask me < 1127378237 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to help breaking your player :D < 1127378245 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you write that bootflasher program? < 1127378321 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1127378362 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, wouldn't you need to write a custom bootloader that in turn loads the kernel and put /that/ in the 1MB "kernel" space, or did you know how the internal bootloader calls the kernel and manage to set it up to be compatible? < 1127378375 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=149 < 1127378378 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the link < 1127378395 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=MostPopular << more resources if you want < 1127378425 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1127378439 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll try again < 1127378500 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw.. how will you know if it worked sicne there is no display? :) < 1127378614 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should print 'hello' < 1127378622 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does not < 1127378642 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it print hello? < 1127378659 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the player's display < 1127378673 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess I was looking at an older model < 1127378720 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nomadworld.com/products/muvo_nx/ < 1127378845 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1127378876 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now knows what he wants for christmas :) < 1127378912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1127379058 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, looks liek they figured out how to hack an ipod and put linux on it too < 1127379139 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1127379146 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my inspiration < 1127379158 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like hardware hacks < 1127379170 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like network coffee express < 1127379244 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's connected with the local network and you can control it from your computer < 1127380024 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1127380033 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g to school < 1127380041 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1127380053 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya nooga < 1127380067 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1127384383 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a horrible esolang idea < 1127384603 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, occurs to me that ALPACA might have got there first though < 1127385658 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1127386318 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127386731 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127386743 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.243.141.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127390470 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1127391227 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1127392701 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooga, you know if it would work on a MuVo TX FM? That's what Ive got. < 1127397915 0 :jix!i=jix@F31de.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1127399963 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1127399972 0 :jix!i=jix@F31de.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1127399980 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1127406953 0 :sp3tt!n=chatzill@cust-148-133.elhandel.umeaenergi.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1127407150 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1127409714 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1127410761 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127410828 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127410832 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1127410868 0 :jix!i=jix@F31de.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1127413456 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1127413456 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127415051 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127417035 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1127417116 0 :int-e!n=noone@p54B3FE82.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1127418079 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1127421494 0 :Wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1127423179 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im working on my first ever TRANSCRIPT program! < 1127423904 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, doesn't support a lot of string operations via user input :-( < 1127423914 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what are the global objects obj1, obj2, and obj3? < 1127424350 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who owns esolangs.org? < 1127424373 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think free subdomains/sub-dns entries for esolang-ers would be coool < 1127424619 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be a bad idea.. I've been looking at places to host, since I'll be graduating soon and losing my free school web space < 1127424651 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only talking about subdomains not webspace < 1127424785 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but once I have the domain, I can get the webspace. Having a subdomain tied to the esolang would be nice. < 1127424827 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe that's not feasible < 1127424830 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1127425344 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client exiting" < 1127425521 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1127430994 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1127431008 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you're right; i hate slashdot too < 1127431022 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoopla :) < 1127431034 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127431035 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never reads it < 1127431039 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1127431080 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other site that annoys me a lot is that thinkgeek shop < 1127431097 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1127431119 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i have time i make my own binary shirt with text "fu*k you thinkgeek, your stuff costs too much!" or something < 1127431126 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1127431138 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127431143 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a time when I would have considered buying a case of Bawls from there .. < 1127431150 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now that I have Moxie, who needs Bawls?! < 1127431162 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no.. < 1127431168 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is exactly about thinkgeek that I dislike, but I have no use for the stuff on there and the humour doesn't appeal either < 1127431183 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so hang on, that's what I dislike < 1127431184 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it isn't that good < 1127431191 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1127431197 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff costs a lot, < 1127431201 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often it's crap < 1127431210 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk < 1127431223 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i wouldn't pay more than 20 euros for a t-shirt with only one word < 1127431230 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "geek." or something < 1127431234 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, i hate that word < 1127431264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bites off the head of a chicken. < 1127431267 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munch munch munch* < 1127431271 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127431306 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't hate "geek" so much... < 1127431333 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fine with being called a geek, but only because I do quite enjoy biting off the heads of chickens. < 1127431342 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. < 1127431354 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *am* a geek... jsut not a slashdot geek or a thinkgeek geek < 1127431359 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1127431361 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a sideshow geek for that matter ;) < 1127431361 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1127431366 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1127431381 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather take something esoteric programming shirt, of some own program < 1127431389 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far cooler than any thinkgeek binary message < 1127431398 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens an Esoteric Programming Cafeshop. < 1127431403 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1127431549 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, wait a minute -- i have the exam thing over! soon it should be time to plan a new brainfuck competition < 1127431555 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that gammaplex demo competition < 1127431669 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can somebody write a befunge program that outputs "REAL MEN PROGRAM IN BEFUNGE"? < 1127431681 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiat a bit.. < 1127431860 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EGNUFEB NI MARGORP NEM LAER">:#,_@ < 1127431870 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't print a new line, though < 1127432171 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1127432177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more esoteric the better :-P < 1127432489 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grhh. i've catched a flu.. < 1127432656 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cafepress.com/esoprog.32072840 < 1127432845 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1127432850 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) < 1127432916 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now make the traditional thongs and other stuff that can be usually found from those cafeshops.. < 1127432928 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1127433006 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what does the bf program do? < 1127433021 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world perhaps.. < 1127433220 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REAL MEN PROGRAM IN BRAINFUCK < 1127433228 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the same as on the back. < 1127433228 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1127433233 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1127433234 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1127433292 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cafepress.com/esoprog.32074529 < 1127433326 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol