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02:09:07 <Gs30ng> booted in ubuntu linux!
02:09:56 <Gs30ng> much beautiful and convenient environment, and no available contents in Korea! :(
02:10:40 <Gs30ng> in Korea most websites are IE only... ActiveX hell
02:11:41 <Gs30ng> does WINE support activeX?
02:12:26 <heatsink> WINE supports IE; IE supports activeX; therefore, WINE supports activeX :)
02:12:31 <Gs30ng> but i heard activex is unavailable on IE on wine
02:13:09 <Gs30ng> because activeX control is too much glued with it's os... windows
02:14:21 <heatsink> well, sorry about the lack of website.
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15:04:48 <kapowaz> I did not realise you were on freenode all this time
15:04:57 <kapowaz> I am mostly in other chanel number 5
15:05:09 <kapowaz> I have some code I wished to share
15:05:38 <kapowaz> I am considering patenting this algorithm
15:05:56 <kapowaz> but I wished to search for possible examples of prior art
15:06:12 <kapowaz> unfortunately it appears there is evidence of prior art in pretty much every website I've ever written
15:06:20 <grim_> I do not think one could patent the null program in any language
15:06:35 <kapowaz> one would have thought you couldn't patent *any* program! *guffaw*
15:06:48 <kapowaz> but clearly this is not the world in which we live!
15:07:02 <kapowaz> why doth thou name suffix with _ ?
15:08:04 <grim_> 15:07 [freenode] -!- Nick grim is already in use
15:08:58 <grim_> enough of thy guff anyway kapowaz
15:12:07 <kapowaz> your name is not nearly unique enough
15:12:24 <grim_> yes, I will change it
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15:33:42 <wildhalcyon> I rhink Jix has invented the official esolang greeting
15:38:20 <kipple> tried out var'aq for the first time yesterday. A fun language, but a bit buggy implementation...
15:38:36 <wildhalcyon> really? Thats a shame. Whats buggy about it?
15:39:03 <kipple> some things doesn't work like the spec says
15:39:16 <kipple> (or maybe I'm misunderstanding the spec)
15:39:52 <kipple> anyway, I wrote 99bob and submitted it
15:41:58 <kipple> level 0. the others doesn't exist
15:43:34 <kipple> you said "there we go" ;)
15:44:05 <wildhalcyon> Well, sometimes I like to take strange journies
15:45:22 <kapowaz> the internet has dropped here
15:45:33 <kapowaz> and somebody walking past saw it on the floor and picked it up
15:45:42 <kapowaz> thankfully they are the honest sort, and handed it in at reception
15:45:54 <kapowaz> if they hadn't, I would have been marooned for all eternity in the void that is "offline"
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15:59:18 <nooga> maybe in a while i'll get some ruby code to hack
16:03:25 <kapowaz> tell computer to do my job for me while the time is between 9am and 5pm in England
16:04:24 <nooga> and what's your job?
16:04:25 <kapowaz> I apologise, my only understanding of ruby is that which was provided via a helpful explanation involving the use of cartoon foxes.
16:04:46 <jix> kapowaz: haha why's guide...
16:04:55 <jix> kapowaz: not good to learn ruby
16:04:56 <kapowaz> http://poignantguide.net/ruby/chapter-3.html
16:05:03 <jix> but funny as hell
16:05:10 <kapowaz> true, I found it utterly hilarious
16:05:22 <jix> nooga: UHHH
16:06:07 <kapowaz> I think they call it Pretty Hopeless Programming
16:06:24 <nooga> i'd like to learn ruby
16:06:25 <kapowaz> but hey, I don't care, it's nice and high level and forgiving and it does what I want
16:06:40 <kapowaz> if I were to learn a new language it might be pie-a-thon
16:06:49 <kapowaz> no language involving pies can be bad
16:08:06 <kapowaz> why the lucky stiff, ah yes
16:08:25 <kapowaz> a thoroughly surreal blogger if ever there was one
16:08:34 <kapowaz> "hex-editing reality to give us infinite grenades!!"
16:29:15 <nooga> i really like that guide with comic strips
16:30:15 <kapowaz> chunky bacon chunky bacon chunky bacon
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16:41:36 <jix> http://deathball.net/notpron/ << really cool game
16:41:49 <jix> i'm stuck in level 13 atm
16:45:23 <|nooga|> day ago i tried to write sudoku solver in SADOL :>
16:46:53 <wildhalcyon> Tough, if you're using hard sudoku puzzles
16:46:57 <|nooga|> paradoxically i just hate to code in SADOL :))
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16:55:49 <kapowaz> I once played notpron with my girlfriend
16:55:49 <kapowaz> we got all the way up to level 50 something
16:55:49 <kapowaz> but we stopped for a while, then they changed all the puzzles
16:55:49 <kapowaz> so we would have had to start again
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16:57:52 <jKfgdkhsAqo> http://www.dillonwaugh.com/pages/menagerie.htm
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16:57:52 <jKfgdkhsAqo> buried treasure puzzle book after kit williams' masquerade
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17:15:55 <jix> it's difficult sometimes but they are all solvable
17:16:39 <jix> the first ones are easy.. but it's getting harder with every level
17:19:53 <wildhalcyon> well, its like.. the clue to number 5 didnt even result in the correct answer
17:20:27 <wildhalcyon> I translated the code right, but it wasnt correct
17:21:28 <jix> wildhalcyon: you need to do more than just plain numbers => ascii
17:21:31 <jix> that would be too easy
17:21:56 <jix> (hint: users/passwords are always english words(afaik))
17:22:07 <wildhalcyon> jix, no.. not that one, the one with the morse code
17:22:30 <wildhalcyon> I guess I just have to make everything into the closest english letter
17:23:48 <jix> there is a difference between the american and the international morse code
17:24:01 <wildhalcyon> Anyhow, Im not a big fan of 'trapdoor' puzzles like that.
17:24:14 <wildhalcyon> No, I translated it right, there was just a vowel missing
17:24:36 <jix> i solved it yesterday and there was NO vowel missing
17:25:15 <wildhalcyon> maybe its my own fault. I thought I double-checkef
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17:34:55 <NoOnE> I was just wondering whether there was a Brainfuck IDE that supports all kind of implementations (8/16/32 bit, wrapping-nonwrapping, Cr/Lf/CrLf)?
17:35:01 <NoOnE> Or should I make one?
17:37:26 <kipple> the answer to the first question is: probably not
17:38:41 <kipple> there are lots of BF interpreters and IDEs out there, but it doesn't seem like anyone of them is generally used. people just use their own self-written interpreters
17:38:55 <NoOnE> oh, well, that's the best
17:39:08 <NoOnE> at least you know what's really behind the scenes
17:39:44 <kipple> well, I think it would have been very nice to have a cross-platform debugging IDE with support for all variations of BF :)
17:40:04 <NoOnE> Is .NET cross-platform enough?
17:40:56 <kapowaz> of course .net is cross-platform!
17:40:58 <NoOnE> If one used only basic controls, we can say maybe, can't we?
17:40:59 <lindi-> NoOnE: if you use only mono then it will be
17:41:07 <kapowaz> I can visit kapowaz.net on my Mac *and* my PC!
17:41:24 <lindi-> NoOnE: so, don't use anything else and you can be sure
17:41:55 <GregorR> C, C++, FLTK, GTK+ and Qt are cross-platform enough.
17:42:33 <jix> NoOnE: BF Debugger is pretty good and supports some modes (and labled memmory positions)
17:43:07 <jix> but BF Debugger's IO support is poor (no live IO)
17:44:04 <jix> NoOnE: http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/programs/bf/index.html
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17:46:22 <NoOnE> Isn't 3.2 MB for a Brainfuck debugger a bit too much?
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17:47:20 <NoOnE> Whoops, MS Installer runtimes
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18:47:51 <jix> wb wildhalcyon
18:51:30 <jix> fix it by installing an brainfuck OS
18:53:06 <wildhalcyon> I want to install ubuntu, but my cd burner doesnt.. err.. burn
18:53:16 <wildhalcyon> actually, the computer doesnt think the cd burner exists
18:53:56 <jix> maybe you should tell him that it does
18:55:16 <wildhalcyon> When it does listen, its usually just long enough to tell me that what I am telling it to do cannot be done, has never been done, and as far as XP is concerned, might very well be impossible
18:56:58 <wildhalcyon> Until it does it, in which case it pretends it never told me it was impossible
18:58:21 <NoOnE> You can order Ubuntu CDs as far as I know for free
19:01:07 <Robdgr8> brainfuck OS, eh? I might pay money to see one of those
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19:02:27 <wildhalcyon> I have ordered one, but it hasnt been shipped to me yet
19:11:03 <NoOnE> I got it shipped to Hungary in 3 weeks :)
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19:57:38 <GregorR> THE VIRUS SPREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS :)
20:00:03 <Robdgreat> <GregorR> THE VIRUS SPREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS :)
20:00:14 <jix> what virus?
20:01:42 <jix> never heard of it
20:03:14 <jix> so the symantec site is the wrong site if i want informations about it ^^
20:04:28 <Robdgreat> If you want to get technical, you could call it America's "oldest continually sold commercially marketed carbonated drink".
20:04:46 <GregorR> You can remove the words "continually sold" and still be accurate.
20:05:13 <Robdgreat> wonder why they included them, then
20:11:21 <GregorR> I think just to emphasize the fact that it /has/ been continually sold.
20:13:18 <GregorR> Anyway, Moxie is the greatest soda there is.
20:13:23 <GregorR> I have to buy it by the case, but it's worth it :P
20:14:03 <Robdgreat> ok I have to stop playing trivia or I'll never get any work done
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21:54:09 <nooga> trying to install SDL for perl
21:54:40 <nooga> i got SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many errors and SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much less hair on my head
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21:59:41 <nooga> is there an SDL for Ruby?
22:00:19 <GregorR> Looking for an excuse to use a decent programming language? :)
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22:08:53 <Robdgreat> mind explaining the word "moin" to me?
22:16:22 <GregorR> It's some not-English language (German?) for Hello, or something thereabouts :P
23:03:26 <Robdgreat> something goes wrong, you get "Something is broken"
23:03:46 <GregorR> My reasons for hating perl are more associated with the language, not the interpreter :p
23:04:01 <GregorR> This is a language that actively encourages you to write bad code.
23:04:07 <lindi-> Robdgreat: oh, perl has an integrated debugger
23:04:08 <GregorR> It provides archaic unreadable means of doing everything.
23:04:25 <lindi-> Robdgreat: with many many one-letter commands to use :)
23:04:30 <Robdgreat> or make it clear that you're being facetious
23:05:12 <Robdgreat> I'm trying to use a script that's supposed to work right out of the box
23:05:15 <GregorR> Wait! lindi-, what gender are you?
23:05:59 <GregorR> It just occurred to me that a while ago we had this long conversation about how there were never any females in here, but "lindi" is a female name - has there been a female in our wake without us even knowing it?!
23:06:14 <Robdgreat> yeah I caught a reference to that conversation
23:06:30 * Robdgreat taps on the inside of lindi-'s screen.
23:06:32 <lindi-> GregorR: well, i'm male
23:06:44 <lindi-> better use /whois next time :)
23:07:09 <Robdgreat> nah you're the first Timo I've ever encountered
23:07:33 <GregorR> Yeah, I don't know where the name "Timo" is from or what gender it is *shrugs*
23:07:37 <Robdgreat> like "Pekka" If I didn't know him, I wouldn't know whether that was a man's or a woman's name
23:26:30 <kipple> the general rule on IRC is to assume everyone to be male, even if they call themselves Shirley or whatever. Especially on this channel :)
23:27:47 <Robdgreat> But there's got to be some chicks into esoteric languages.
23:28:58 <kipple> you think so? I don't know...
23:29:05 <GregorR> Soooooooooooooooooooomewheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere, oooooooooooooooooover a raiiiiiiiiiiiiinboooooooow
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