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01:10:28 <ihope> Hmm. mIRC and expired at that.
01:12:52 <ihope> What's the Church numeral 0 in Iota?
01:17:52 <ihope> Heck: what are s and k in Iota?
01:18:43 <ihope> Oh, heh. *i*i*i*ii and *i*i*ii.
01:27:07 <ihope> Grr. What's the identity function in Iota?
01:28:01 <ihope> Really? The I combinator? Hmm, that means *ii.
01:29:39 <ihope> So the Church numeral for 0 in Iota is **i*i*ii*ii?
02:21:09 <ihope> Ooh, this Unlambda abstraction stuff is cool.
02:31:59 <ihope> But programs can get *very* long.
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03:07:29 * GregorR hates wildhalcyon's computer too.
03:08:00 <wildhalcyon> Thank you for your hateful, hateful support Gregor XD
03:33:01 <GregorR> I gave a piece of music of mine to a friend who's in school getting a bachelor of music right now, and he told me that it was "good, for Gregor"
03:33:15 <GregorR> Probably the least helpful comment ever :-P
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05:31:33 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg
05:31:53 <GregorR> (Mind the singing voice, it's under construction ;) ... no, I am not holding my nose, my voice is /that/ terrible)
05:42:22 * Robdgreat ponders an esoteric section for his website
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06:37:44 <Robdgreat> oh yeah I was supposed to try again to figure out SADOL
06:39:14 <Robdgreat> I must be the only one here who hasn't
06:40:08 <nooga> SADOL was created when i was taking bath
06:40:49 <nooga> when i was on holiday in my grandma's house
06:41:04 <nooga> (no computers there)
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06:42:34 <nooga> i just tried to say that the best ideas are made when you away from your computer
06:42:35 <Robdgreat> it's from a Strong Bad game. you shoot the figure's head and if you miss it bounces back at you and says "YOUR HEAD ASPLODE"
06:42:58 <Robdgreat> I was referring to the language itself
06:46:09 <nooga> i've got funny log
06:47:04 <nooga> <nooga> http://nooga.int.pl/sadol/
06:47:04 <nooga> <Some_guy> I think that's how perl was invented.
06:48:44 <Robdgreat> how can you possibly like that tool of the devil?
06:49:47 <Robdgreat> I think a site called "The Padded Cell" is well-suited to esoterica
06:50:36 <Robdgreat> I just can't use it to save my life
06:50:38 <nooga> it's nice, however not as nice as ruby :DDDDDD
06:51:42 <nooga> http://p206.ezboard.com/bthepaddedcell71381 << this padded cell?
06:52:53 <Robdgreat> I'm about to create esoteric.thepaddedcell.org
06:56:11 <nooga> but as a webdesigner i tell you: layout is not too nice
06:56:51 <nooga> but it can always be better :)
06:58:53 <GregorR> Don't you wish that actually worked? :)
06:59:35 <GregorR> I definitely need to write a music-based language.
06:59:38 <nooga> if you don't mind i can write a suggestion in xhtml and css :))
06:59:55 <GregorR> Making it esoteric enough already ;)
07:00:26 <Robdgreat> well I've been meaning to migrate to xhtml
07:00:38 <Robdgreat> never bothered familiarizing myself with it until recently
07:00:57 <Robdgreat> but that's a separate issue from my layout
07:01:05 <Robdgreat> I can make the exact same site in xhtml
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07:04:24 <Robdgreat> GregorR, I was thinking of a music-based language the other day
07:04:40 <Robdgreat> well, not sure what you mean exactly, I was thinking of a tonal language
07:05:10 <GregorR> The problem is, I would like to make a music-based language where I could actually write a proper composition and feed it in, but the concept of programming lends itself to very, well ... bad music XD
07:05:30 <GregorR> I would probably feed it a .midi, not a .ogg/.mp3/.wav, so it would be music-based, not tone-based.
07:19:00 <Gs30ng_> seems you should make a GOOD interpreter to implement an OGG/MP3 music source code which sounds good enough
07:19:42 <Gs30ng_> i think MIDI is an easy choice
07:21:25 <GregorR> A "cop-out" if you will? :)
07:23:21 <Gs30ng_> in detail, there could be several ways of music source code
07:23:54 <Gs30ng_> first one is the way of beatnik(i'm not sure about spelling)
07:24:20 <Gs30ng_> each musical scale would be an instruction
07:24:52 <Gs30ng_> but this will make a BAD music
07:25:24 <Gs30ng_> well not really... it's up to the composer
07:26:31 <Gs30ng_> or as we once mentioned, pattern-based way like Udage or Glypho could work
07:26:36 <GregorR> If each instruction is a tone, you would have to either A) have lots of nops and make very atonal music or B) make terrible music :)
07:26:53 <GregorR> And pattern-based ones don't take length into account at all, which I'd like to.
07:28:02 <Robdgreat> could you achieve multithreading via polyphony?
07:28:30 <Gs30ng_> chord is kinda problem when i try to implement udage music
07:29:02 <Gs30ng_> i want there some chords in music, but don't know how to interpret them
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07:30:19 <Robdgreat> i.e. how are you imagining this being implemented
07:30:39 <Robdgreat> would you be using actual recording, or midi?
07:31:07 <Robdgreat> ok. you could conceivably work off of the root note of a chord
07:31:11 <GregorR> Actually, chords are even difficult with midi, if it was recorded rather than created in software :-P
07:31:43 <GregorR> Or one could interpret what the chord actually is (CM, Cm, C7, Caug5, etc) and work with that
07:32:14 <GregorR> That would be the guitarist's solution :P
07:32:23 <GregorR> Whereas the pianist would tell you to interpret every note ;)
07:32:40 <Gs30ng> what i have to do is checking 2 arbitrary notes and check them same or different
07:32:53 <Gs30ng> since that's the way how udage works now
07:33:02 <GregorR> Umm, with a midi, that's mind-bogglingly simple.
07:33:33 <Gs30ng> my english is going insane
07:35:01 <Gs30ng> natural language version of perl.
07:35:47 <Gs30ng> only nooga will be the one here who can speak more complex language
07:36:59 <Gs30ng> i heard that Polish is more complicated than Korean
07:37:12 <Gs30ng> well Korean is, even like the concept of perl
07:37:19 <Gs30ng> There is more that one way... blah blah
07:37:46 <GregorR> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
07:38:18 <Gs30ng> you've got million ways to say something and they are all delicately different
07:38:51 <Gs30ng> you should learn them all
07:39:28 <Gs30ng> and, oh well, it's like Udage
07:39:31 <Robdgreat> I'll stick with English and Spanish
07:39:37 <Gs30ng> A can mean various things
07:39:45 <Gs30ng> it's up to what comes before A or after A
07:40:17 <GregorR> Robdgreat: By the way, did you notice your freudian typo of devisland.net?
07:40:40 <Robdgreat> no, I typed penisland.net on purpose
07:41:02 <GregorR> By the way, penisland.net actually = pen island.net, worst domain fo-pa [sic] ever XD
07:41:16 <GregorR> Even worse than www.GoTahoe.com = www.GotAHoe.com
07:42:00 <Robdgreat> the fact that they named their site that is
07:42:05 <Gs30ng> that reminds me long ago, a friend of mine scribbled on my notebook which contains assignment
07:42:11 <GregorR> Ahahaha, I see, they don't actually have anything XD
07:42:16 <Gs30ng> well it was english class
07:42:26 <Gs30ng> there was a sentence like...
07:42:34 <Gs30ng> He was a tennis player.
07:42:52 <Gs30ng> a friend of mine scribbled on it and tennis became pennis
07:43:23 <Gs30ng> i didn't aware of it until i gave it my teacher
07:43:54 <GregorR> PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAY INCOMPETENT!
07:44:13 <GregorR> Though if you know the word "incompetent", you may be unable to ;
07:51:14 <Robdgreat> there. a nice graphic for my placeholder page
07:54:27 <GregorR> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAH
07:55:44 <Robdgreat> I'd like to think that's a popular image concept
07:55:57 <Robdgreat> but google images didn't really turn up anything so I had to make my own
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08:01:38 <Robdgreat> but it's 2am so I guess I should get to bed
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14:50:11 <jix> kipple: hallo is german
14:52:54 <kipple> don't know about hillo
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15:17:16 <Keymaker> kipple: here 'hillo' means 'jam'
15:17:35 <Keymaker> anyways, gotta go :) just came to say that..
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15:33:11 <nooga_> say something in norwegian?
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16:31:44 <nooga> kipple: nie wiem co powiedziales heh :)
16:48:11 <J|x> spicht hier jetzt jeder in seiner muttersprache?
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17:06:00 <nooga> trying to write a quine in sadol
17:06:06 <nooga> i don't even know how to start
17:06:22 <nooga> and i must learn spanish -.-''''
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18:55:36 <GregorR> I can write all the funky characters 8-D
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20:01:37 <jix> moin wildhalcyon, Sgep
20:02:14 <jix> that's a difficult question
20:02:31 <Gs30ng> oops... guys appear when i decided to sleep
20:02:42 <jix> Gs30ng: bad decision then
20:03:15 <Gs30ng> well it's 4 o'clock in the morning here
20:03:38 <jix> its 7pm here
20:03:41 <Gs30ng> i don't want to sleep but i should
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