< 1129593902 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for registering my trademark :) < 1129593918 0 :grim__!n=grim@213-152-53-111.dsl.eclipse.net.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1129594255 0 :grim_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1129594349 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: There was no (r) symbol there ... < 1129594442 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my screen the character before the . was a (r) symbol < 1129594452 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an i with a ^ :-P < 1129594458 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :î is a (r) for you? < 1129594476 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an A with a ~ on top + a (r) < 1129594492 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird :P < 1129594496 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have UTF8 it seems. < 1129594509 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola cálàmärÄ©. < 1129594513 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that :P < 1129594514 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :propbably my iRC client < 1129594531 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (r) became a (c) :D < 1129594535 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lol < 1129594540 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an i with a ~ XD < 1129594559 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :î < 1129594563 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that for you? < 1129594568 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never remembers to turn on utf8  < 1129594574 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple: Nothing ... < 1129594580 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing? < 1129594584 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1129594586 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an i with a ^ < 1129594596 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, competing charsets :P < 1129594613 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste the original again, I'm curious to see it now < 1129594618 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :î < 1129594639 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cálàmärî. < 1129594648 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari cálà märî. < 1129594655 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks the same < 1129594664 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird.. :) < 1129594670 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoooooooooooooky < 1129594736 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay.. I am an American, so I must promote English as a world language ;) < 1129594749 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too is an American XD < 1129594863 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get some work done.. been fooling around with the ubuntu upgrade all day < 1129596680 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1129596706 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1129596752 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1129596844 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@224.orlando-11-13rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1129597190 0 :graue!i=graue@ip68-100-130-21.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1129597199 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everyone < 1129597205 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1129597209 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a probabilistic brainfuck interpreter, but it turned out to be totally useless < 1129597228 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whereas if it had worked, it would have been the most useful thing in the world, of course) < 1129597297 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it represents each data cell using 1-7 bits, but simulates having 256 distinct values by incrementing and decrementing probabilistically, so that after n increments, the expected value is n greater than the value represented before < 1129597318 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that behavior does not work well with the [ instruction, though < 1129597334 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I briefly considered modifying the language to make this scheme work better, but soon lost interest < 1129598845 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone familiar with var'aq here? < 1129600740 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1129607449 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1129607449 0 :clog_!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1129608281 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue: hmm... i don't get it :) < 1129608373 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1129608373 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1129609475 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: suppose you have an integer variable that holds a value from 0 to n-1, thus it has a range of n values < 1129609501 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each time you increment it, you increment it by rand()%2, and you decrement by that amount as well < 1129609515 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you treat the variable as though it holds twice the value it actually holds, when using it < 1129609526 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you have a range of 2n values < 1129609579 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1129611678 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a BF interpreter to evolve programs, and just let it go, and then it took all my hard disk space and processor, and I had to hard reboot :P < 1129611682 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1129611690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came out SOMETHING like while (1) fork(); < 1129614102 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like i got the evolution idea down pat < 1129614106 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/i/it/ < 1129615004 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1129620451 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of the problem is that the "individuals" grew in a uniform environment. < 1129620482 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the only selection being how often it runs the ! command, the only evolution is production of the most parasitic possible lifeform :P < 1129620947 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1129620988 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that neighbor who's always borrowing your stuff < 1129621413 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should base it on FYB instead, so it supports interaction. < 1129622399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1129622400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1129628572 0 :jix!i=jix@F314d.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1129638580 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1129638705 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1129641179 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1129641196 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello world!" + nl < 1129641214 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Keymaker < 1129641218 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1129641238 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm programmin' in qdeql < 1129641247 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally got around to it < 1129641471 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any opinions on whether or not it's TC? < 1129641495 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1129641571 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure. i haven't yet figured out how to add new stuff to the queue (any other way than receiving input) < 1129641611 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to do one test.. < 1129641650 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only qdeql program I've ever seen is the hello world on the wiki. Haven't seen anything slightly complex < 1129641650 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1129641661 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't anything very complex, yes < 1129641670 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with the interpreter there comes some small stuff < 1129641677 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't looked at them yet < 1129641687 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some cat and some loop thing < 1129641714 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the \ operator is the only one that actually adds new values to the queue without reading from input < 1129641734 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1129641739 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers < 1129641773 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the way < 1129641780 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's no way to remove stuff, right? < 1129641788 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without doing output) < 1129641815 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. seems so < 1129641822 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1129641840 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I think the \ strikes again :) < 1129641851 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1129641876 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, now i see! < 1129641879 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the dequeued byt is zero it isn't enqueued again < 1129641891 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1129641911 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this language is insane #) < 1129641924 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. the hello world program starts with a - < 1129641930 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1129641935 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean the queue doesn't start out empty? < 1129641957 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dequeueing produces 0 if the queue is empty." < 1129641961 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1129641965 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1129641987 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try to get a quine done today < 1129641991 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, yes. It's pretty insane (which is a compliment naturally) < 1129641995 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1129642015 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, now i'll just examine the looping a bit and then start the work < 1129642582 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think this language is turing complete < 1129642588 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, most probably i'm wrong, but still.. < 1129642866 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, good luck with the quine! :) < 1129642932 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers < 1129642946 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to feel it's not as easy as i imagined < 1129643037 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding... < 1129643047 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dies < 1129643053 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the loop_e.qd < 1129643068 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be an example how to make a loop.. < 1129643810 0 :grim__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1129643841 0 :grim__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :grim_ < 1129644086 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1129644145 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1129644154 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1129644421 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decided to write a compiler for huge language < 1129644482 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should register that project at sourceforge < 1129644490 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get some guys for help :> < 1129644491 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language? < 1129644597 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something very simmilar to LUA in it's principles < 1129644649 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with C style syntax < 1129644661 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and with some tricks from perl < 1129644707 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess it will have some elements supproting OOP < 1129644714 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like in php < 1129644812 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows that sound riddiculous < 1129644818 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds* < 1129645183 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a new language? < 1129645196 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you make up the language? < 1129645295 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more importantly: is it esoteric? ;) < 1129645396 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1129645551 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t's new, i'm the designer < 1129645564 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not esoteric < 1129645635 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-k < 1129645669 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've once thought about creating a new language, but didn't get anything done < 1129645690 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll stick with the esolangs < 1129645846 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1129645882 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to beat up lua :> < 1129645907 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now g2g < 1129645909 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1129648213 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creating a successful non-esoteric language is probably way harder than writing a qdeql-quine... < 1129648298 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not sure ;) < 1129648424 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll eat gregor's whole collection of hats if this language is turing complete -- or if someone manages to write brainfuck interpreter in it < 1129648439 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. a challenge :) < 1129648453 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1129648456 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you can't just eat my whole collection of hats without permission :P < 1129648458 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if Gregor would approve though < 1129648468 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what if i ask nicely? < 1129648482 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can eat my rather old, beaten up grey fedora :P < 1129648489 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1129648500 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get a new one anyway. < 1129649702 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1129649723 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.back < 1129649729 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1129650285 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh < 1129650320 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i won't get that quine done, not at all < 1129650328 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is too hard for me < 1129650343 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even sure if it's possible < 1129652446 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quine in what? :> < 1129652587 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdeql < 1129652606 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do that :( < 1129652853 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try in SADOL to relief yourself < 1129652916 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe after getting one other program done in qdeql.. :) < 1129654032 0 :Freya!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1129654043 0 :Freya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1129654918 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd help if qdeql interpreter could print out the memory state after executing program.. < 1129654976 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1129657004 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoxie < 1129657699 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does befunge handle eof? < 1129657817 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, not sure. < 1129658978 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc that's not mentioned in the spec < 1129658986 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1129659072 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate undefined eof behavior < 1129659089 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1129659323 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making an interpreter, jix? < 1129659333 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1129659335 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1129659339 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handling binary data < 1129659344 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1129659346 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in befunge? < 1129659354 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1129659359 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1129659390 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other language that supports div < 1129659401 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :div? < 1129659411 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/7 < 1129659415 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :division < 1129659417 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1129659429 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, all turing complete languages support it :D < 1129659448 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but not all have a div instruction < 1129659460 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, know that :) < 1129659466 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're doing, by the way? < 1129661249 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back < 1129661255 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compression algorithm < 1129661506 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1129661508 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to use... WHITESPACE < 1129661518 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) < 1129661529 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh forgot to check eof handling there ^^ < 1129662007 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye, i'll be probably back later today.. < 1129662011 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This quote is unrelated to this context." < 1129667113 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1129667113 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1129667140 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-197.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1129667519 0 :jix!i=jix@F314d.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1129672009 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate windows networking < 1129672698 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. lots of spamming on the wiki today >:-( < 1129672727 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found an old (befunge alike) esolang written by me (my first esolang) < 1129672753 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is "old"? < 1129672799 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 year (i'm using esolangs for about a year now) < 1129673028 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it any good? :) < 1129673998 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1129675495 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I slaughtered my laptop with my evolving BF again. < 1129675502 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to make in not fork() :) < 1129675522 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will you learn < 1129675526 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly Gregor < 1129675614 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make it detect if the usecs on the clock is below 100000 before doing any real computation, so that it would essentially force itself to only run within the first tenth of every second, but I missed some :P < 1129675641 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, they still get alotted time, so 9999 forks will slow down a system a lot even if they just immediately give up control :P < 1129675811 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what are you evolving? < 1129675844 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have a spec that's basically BF + a few new commands, most notably "breed" < 1129675862 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The breed command copies the program, then randomly mutates the new one, and forks a process for the new one. < 1129675889 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, because there's no environment and no interaction, there is no evolution (selection = important factor) < 1129675893 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So really, it's just silly mutation. < 1129675914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on one where programs can modify other programs, thus adding a bit of competiton / selection. < 1129675924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can really make an environment for BF programs however ;) < 1129676300 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so you're forking exponentially, and expecting it not to eat your comp for lunch? < 1129676330 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not /quite/ forking exponentially. < 1129676349 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough, apparently ;) < 1129676351 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I started with just a breed command, so, if it had not evolved another, it would have only had a max of 2 procs at a time. < 1129676359 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then another one randomly appeared. < 1129676366 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And suddenly, my computer was not responding so well 8-D < 1129676376 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job < 1129676383 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1129676384 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a master. < 1129676391 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're something. < 1129676397 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jury's still out. < 1129676429 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1129676446 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've written languages. That's more than I can say for me < 1129676473 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia, Neanderthals had a higher pitched and more nasal voice than humans. < 1129676482 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Neanderthals were the nerdiest of hunter-gatherers. < 1129676486 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1129676831 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1129676834 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they were also less intelligent and physically stronger. that does not fit in with your theory :) < 1129676921 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. this is interesting: "2005: The Max-Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology launches a project to reconstruct the Neanderthal genome." < 1129676970 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who gets to be the lucky surrogate mother :D < 1129677005 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders what a programming language for neanderthals would look like < 1129677230 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm. < 1129677234 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neanderthals had bigger brains. < 1129677241 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In all likelihood they were /more/ intelligent. < 1129677268 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did? well, bigger doesn't necessarily mean smarter, but what do I know < 1129677284 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe neanderthals used BF < 1129677303 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the hominid line of evolution, intelligence has been measured basically as the ratio of brain size to body size - neanderthals had the largest, seconded by us. < 1129677324 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda makes you wonder why they're not still around < 1129677328 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, those Geico commercials < 1129677331 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggest otherwise < 1129677334 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol