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00:25:32 <GregorR-L> F!"I wish I were part of EgoBot!"
00:25:32 <falsebot> I wish I were part of EgoBot!
00:25:44 <GregorR-L> !glass {M[m(_o)O!"So do I!"(_o)o.?]}
00:25:54 <GregorR-L> Hmm, that's not promising :P
00:25:55 <EgoBot> So do I! 
00:26:00 <GregorR-L> Oh, there it goes (lag)
00:33:50 <lament> F!"No lag here!"
00:33:50 <falsebot> No lag here!
00:34:06 <GregorR-L> Pfft
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04:30:06 <lament> holy shit i got banned from #math
04:31:00 <calamari> lament: join #m-a-t-h
04:31:05 <lament> calamari: why?
04:31:16 <calamari> lament: because you're not banned there
04:31:35 <Arrogant> How do you get banned from #math?
04:31:38 <lament> calamari: there's a nearly infinite number of channels i'm not banned from!
04:31:53 <calamari> lament: hehe.. 
04:32:00 <calamari> did you do something to get banned?
04:32:28 <calamari> I discovered I was banned and I knew I did nothing, so it was probably someone else at my isp
04:33:00 <calamari> btw finite == nearly infinite?
04:33:14 <Arrogant> I'm not banned from #sexwithprogramminglanguages
04:33:45 <GregorR> calamari: finite == not infinite
04:33:50 <GregorR> :P
04:34:11 <calamari> GregorR: right, I agree
04:34:31 <GregorR> 3 is finite.
04:34:41 <GregorR> All the numbers between 0 and 3 is (uncountably) infinite.
04:35:07 <calamari> not many esolangs include real numbers
04:35:13 <calamari> or complex
04:35:22 <calamari> in fact, do any?
04:35:34 <lament> they might include complex floats
04:35:41 <Arrogant> Python has complex
04:35:54 <calamari> didn't know Python was considered an esolang
04:35:57 <lament> hahaha
04:35:58 <lament> it is now
04:36:01 <Arrogant> Oh
04:36:06 <Arrogant> I thought you said
04:36:09 <Arrogant> I don't think any esolangs do
04:36:09 <GregorR> Umm ... almost all languages include real numbers XD
04:36:15 <Arrogant> And then you meant any languages
04:36:22 <Arrogant> nevermind
04:36:34 <lament> well
04:36:41 <lament> you can't store most real numbers in a computer
04:36:46 <calamari> Arrogant: np, just being silly ;)
04:36:52 <lament> so most languages have a floating point datatype
04:37:02 <lament> instead
04:38:22 * calamari tries to remember.. |Q is a subset of |R, right?
04:38:33 <lament> it sure is
04:38:45 <calamari> and |R is a subset of |C
04:39:05 <lament> it sure is
04:39:16 <lament> in practice, the distinction between Q and R is irrelevant
04:40:01 <lament> (floating point isn't Q, either. That would be arbitrary precision floats)
04:40:21 <calamari> what is |C a subset of?
04:40:40 <lament> quaternions for one
04:40:46 <calamari> Q is rationals 
04:41:14 <lament> er, actually i'm probably wrong
04:41:24 <lament> quaternions are totally different.
04:41:35 <lament> er, no, i'm right.
04:41:46 * calamari consults wikipedia
04:41:47 <lament> anyway
04:41:54 <lament> beyond R it all gets pretty arbitrarily
04:41:56 <lament> *arbitrary
04:42:00 <lament> you can construct your own structures
04:42:28 <lament> you can consider R as a subset of all vectors with elements in R, for example.
04:42:33 <lament> or a subset of all matrices.
04:42:44 <calamari> quaternion is |H :)
04:44:32 <calamari> mm Octonion
04:45:58 <calamari> then sedenions
04:46:38 <lament> foonion
04:47:58 <calamari> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_numbers
04:52:56 <calamari> hmm does an infinite dimensional algebra make any sense?
04:54:21 <lament> Yes
04:54:29 <calamari> google seems to agree
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13:32:05 <kipple> hehe. just took a test of my english skills, and one of the questions was: Which of these two is spelled correctly? Weird or Wierd
15:13:21 <GregorR> And our community made you choose incorrectly, that's terrible!
15:28:14 <kipple> both were correct, so how could I go wrong :)
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18:18:30 <Keymaker> hmh
18:18:49 <Keymaker> my sceql 99 bottles of beer is still not in 99-bottles-of-beer.net!
18:18:59 <Keymaker> i submitted it over a week ago
18:27:04 <Keymaker> by the way, anyone knows band called röyksopp?
18:27:15 <Keymaker> quite good
18:33:03 <kipple> I submitted a var'aq version of 99bob several weeks ago, and it hasn't showed up either
18:33:36 <kipple> maybe they're really busy, or maybe the submission form is broken...
18:34:05 <kipple> and, yes, Röyksopp is a good band
18:34:34 <Keymaker> yeah
18:35:10 <Keymaker> i e-mailed one of the team members about it
18:35:19 <Keymaker> hasn't replied yet
18:35:25 <kipple> ok. let me know if you hear anything
18:35:30 <Keymaker> ok
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19:41:04 <Keymaker> ok, off to watch "home alone 2"
19:41:07 <Keymaker> yeah, i'm lame!
19:41:14 <Keymaker> bye
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20:32:02 <jix> ,
20:49:30 <wildhalcyon> exactly
20:50:42 <jix> whoops
20:50:52 <jix> i can't remember typing a ","
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21:00:22 <calamari> hi
21:03:00 <jix> moin calamari 
21:03:38 <calamari> hi jix.. what's new
21:03:43 <jix> nothing
21:03:58 <jix> i can't work on bfgentext until next weekend
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22:02:34 <GregorR> Why, Sgep, why won't you talk to us?! :P
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22:13:59 * calamari has added his ESO thoughts to the forum http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/index.html
22:15:55 <calamari> oops my post was too long.. lol
22:18:39 <GregorR> That's a very strange forum script ... I don't like it ...
22:19:10 <calamari> GregorR: it's a bit too esoteric for ya? ;)
22:19:21 <GregorR> No ... just bad ...
22:19:31 <GregorR> BTW, is binary BF 3-bit?
22:19:56 <GregorR> +-<>[],. = 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111?
22:20:18 <calamari> yeah I think so.. there were some bf compression projects a while back 
22:20:40 <calamari> not sure of the exact mapping of bf to bits
22:21:09 <GregorR> Well, if there's no problem with that one, why not use it?
22:21:21 <GregorR> Err, to make it a bit more internally consistent:
22:21:23 <calamari> btw, what did you think of my post.. am I too far out there? 
22:21:24 <GregorR> +-><[],. = 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111?
22:21:41 <GregorR> I don't know, I can't find posts on this forum :P
22:21:42 <calamari> ., 
22:22:07 <calamari> hmm actually nm.. hard to say ., or ,.
22:22:41 <calamari> although I'd argue ., because . increases output while , decreases input :)
22:22:53 <GregorR> Heh
22:23:10 <GregorR> [ increases stack depth, ] decreases stack depth :P
22:23:28 <calamari> there you go
22:23:30 <GregorR> I propose Glass btw.
22:23:31 <GregorR> :P
22:23:51 <calamari> Glass is mentioned in my post :)
22:24:14 <calamari> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/kareha.pl/1130879735/9
22:24:22 <GregorR> I hadn't finished yet :P
22:24:26 <GregorR> Reading it, that is.
22:25:52 <GregorR> I think in the last para you got a bit overzealous.
22:26:01 <GregorR> I don't know if I agree that it should change with time :P
22:26:53 <calamari> well, the idea is that it's not an os and shell, they are one
22:27:05 <calamari> so whatever you do in the "shell" directly affects the os
22:27:19 <GregorR> I agree with that part.
22:27:36 <GregorR> But the way you put it it seems like you couldn't do an ls command (whatever that may be) twice ...
22:28:05 <calamari> well, you couldn't, because the api would change and you'd have to write a new program to run ls
22:28:32 <GregorR> See, that's where I stop agreeing :P
22:29:54 <calamari> Might be difficult for them to learn the new api :)
22:31:17 <calamari> actually it might be impossible, as each probe to try to determine how the new api worked would change the api
22:31:26 <calamari> unless the api changed in a predicatble way
22:31:47 <calamari> hehe
22:31:53 <calamari> you're probably right
22:31:56 <GregorR> :P
22:33:28 <calamari> there you're immortalized on the forum ;)
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22:37:01 <GregorR> Hi, Sgep!
22:37:12 <GregorR> How are you?
22:38:36 <calamari> GregorR: how about http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/phpBB2/
22:38:47 <GregorR> I always agree with phpBB :P
22:38:50 <Sgep> hi
22:38:54 <Sgep> ok
22:39:05 <GregorR> Sgep, you said something on #esoteric!
22:40:33 * GregorR looks through the logs.
22:41:04 <GregorR> Sgep: I like your binbf, better than the one I put above.
22:41:26 <Sgep> GregorR: above?
22:41:40 * Sgep goes to the wiki
22:42:01 <GregorR> http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Sgeo/binbf vs my simple 000,001,... one.
22:42:13 <GregorR> Far better compression for repeated commands, which is nice.
22:43:22 <Sgep> ty
22:43:38 * Sgep isn't good at knowing what to say
22:43:41 <GregorR> lol
22:43:47 <GregorR> My response is only two months late, eh? :P
22:46:47 <calamari> GregorR: what's a good division for the forums.. by code layout (1d, 2d, graphical), by type (oo, functional, procedural..), or something else
22:47:08 <GregorR> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:47:37 <GregorR> I think layout then type.
22:47:39 <calamari> perhaps 1d/2d/etc because that's most obvious to a newcomer
22:47:42 <calamari> yeah 
22:48:02 <GregorR> Seeing as that 1D would be the huge group :-P
22:48:19 <calamari> true.. I wonder if groups can have subgroups.
22:48:22 * calamari checks
22:48:30 <GregorR> No :-P
22:48:33 <calamari> actually there wouldn't be a need
22:48:41 <GregorR> Exactly ;)
22:48:51 <calamari> I could just say 1D: oo, 1D: functional, etc)
22:48:53 <GregorR> Just a forum for each lang
22:49:01 <calamari> nah.. that's too many forums
22:49:13 <GregorR> Oh, right :-P
22:49:18 <GregorR> H.h
22:49:20 <calamari> and people would then have to ask me to add new ones
22:49:21 <GregorR> Heh even
22:49:59 <Sgep> 1D: oo?
22:50:17 <GregorR> Such as Glass, ORK.
22:50:17 <calamari> one dimensional object oriented.. 1d is probably not the best name
22:50:35 <GregorR> Basically the Gregor section :-P
22:50:48 <calamari> ;)
22:50:53 * Sgep saw oo as the infinity symbol...
22:50:54 <calamari> I think there was one other oo
22:51:02 <GregorR> Lies!
22:51:13 <GregorR> It was a joke language!
22:52:57 <calamari> hah, and you wrote it: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ORK
22:53:18 <GregorR> lol
22:53:41 <GregorR> <GregorR> Such as Glass, ORK.
22:53:59 <calamari> missed that line
22:54:11 <GregorR> Like I said, the Gregor section ;)
22:54:41 <calamari> hmm why is pingpong oo
22:55:04 <calamari> and who created it
22:56:02 <calamari> well bbl
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