< 1133658685 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133658731 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Ello < 1133658744 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I figured out what monads were. < 1133659038 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1133659746 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1133659756 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night < 1133659829 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1133661742 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1133663101 0 :echeese!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1133663439 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-164.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1133663556 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1133663556 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1133663868 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1133663868 0 :Isole!i=name@host86-131-86-204.range86-131.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1133663907 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-128-16.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133664006 0 :Isole!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1133664014 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1133664188 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-128-16.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133664247 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: Hello grey-haired woman! < 1133667122 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]" < 1133668377 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091c86.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133668393 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye!" < 1133671705 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't realize that sekhmet had grey hair < 1133671708 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can dig it < 1133672864 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050920]" < 1133682073 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.149.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1133682492 0 :kipple!n=kipple@168.80-202-98.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1133682505 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kipple < 1133682943 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1133683199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1133683200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1133686097 0 :GregorR!n=chatzill@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1133686691 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133686741 0 :kipple!n=kipple@168.80-202-98.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1133687570 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1133687635 0 :kipple!n=kipple@168.80-202-98.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1133687922 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1133688954 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091d74.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133689779 0 :jix!i=jix@F31b4.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133691637 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133692160 0 :jix!i=jix@F3530.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133693066 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1133693075 0 :jix!i=jix@F3530.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133696325 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1133696348 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Keymaker < 1133696370 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes your bizarre basic project? < 1133696492 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kipple < 1133696505 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest, i haven't worked it at all < 1133696513 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the beginning of it < 1133696543 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i haven't worked on it at all since the last time i talked about it, in the beginning of the project < 1133696561 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1133696597 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: I chiseled off another 14 bytes from my entry last night :) < 1133696682 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaarg :D < 1133696696 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i was just about to say that impressive job with the solution < 1133696703 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean entry < 1133696724 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder whether we have used the same algorithm < 1133696731 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see in a day :) < 1133696973 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well, i assume your way is different, and obviously simpler < 1133697136 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. that is a common fate for many esolang ideas I think :) (I have a lot of those myself) < 1133697143 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1133697155 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1133697285 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: we'll see < 1133697333 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing program size.. when the competition began i was sure it'll be very hard for anyone to get the size under 500 instructions < 1133697423 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't bother to shorten my program yesterday, since that wouldn't have helped that much.. at least get to release a nice 40x10 or 20x20 program block on my site when the competition is over.. < 1133697461 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll post the md5 for the 400 instruction version after the simpsons.. < 1133697469 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's no point basically :) < 1133697481 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 400 bytes < 1133697487 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a magical number :) < 1133697487 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1133697493 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, didn't know that :) < 1133697535 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a round number, it's a perfect square, it has no prime divisor >5 so it's quite smooth ... < 1133697588 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) < 1133697615 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, there are no boring integers. < 1133697618 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof: < 1133697621 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1133697624 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, natural numbers. < 1133697635 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof: assume that there are boring natural numbers < 1133697641 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, gotta go for half an hour: the simpons :) < 1133697642 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there'd be a smallest boring natural number < 1133697650 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as such, it'd be whooly remarkable. < 1133697653 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contradiction. < 1133697670 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1133697677 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1133697823 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wholly. I knew I made a typo there. < 1133697904 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133698430 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but there are boring reals, then? < 1133698516 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: definitely < 1133698527 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1133698537 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pi is boring < 1133698544 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that the statement "there are no boring reals" is equivalent to the axiom of choice < 1133698548 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: because the things we can say about real numbers are countable < 1133698553 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it seems obvious that some reals are boring < 1133698559 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: so there are real numbers we can't really say anything about < 1133698561 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the axiom of choice must be false < 1133698569 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1133698573 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bows < 1133698591 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: hmm. not really. < 1133698593 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bows back < 1133698601 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. the well-ordering principle! < 1133698604 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about though < 1133698608 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boring"? < 1133698634 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: there's a countable model of set theory; this means that for every thing that can be proved, you only need countable many examples (witnesses) ... < 1133698721 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least as far as I remember, the von Neumann axioms can be modelled as first order formulas built on top of the 'element of' relation) < 1133698787 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that have to do with anything? < 1133698834 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that even if the axiom of choice is true, you can still have uninteresting real numbers. < 1133698841 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just don't need to use them anywhere. < 1133698875 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : no < 1133698875 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133698879 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the AC is true < 1133698893 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then exactly the same proof as for integers works for reals, too < 1133698919 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. you can say that the set of uninteresting reals has a member - but you can't name it < 1133698951 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing that helps you select one and only one out of them as being interesting. < 1133698957 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a well-ordering to do that. < 1133698961 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1133698969 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that you can name < 1133698976 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the well-ordering principle is equivalent to AC < 1133699002 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: still, that only tells me that there are well orderings of the real numbers - but there are many of them; which one will you use? < 1133699023 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees nothing that makes one better than all others < 1133699047 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what makes the <-relation ordering the best ordering for integers? < 1133699057 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it's natural < 1133699088 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a point. < 1133699091 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night :P < 1133699118 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep well < 1133699733 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back.. < 1133699797 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what kind of test calamari ought to run? < 1133699849 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the following: 1. file with only one new-line 2. file with few k of pattern "abc" 3. file with few ks of a, b, and c < 1133699877 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps something like bbbbccccaaaa < 1133699878 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: I don't know. I've tested my program with short inputs (<=9 characters) and some selected long ones < 1133699899 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1133700082 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 29524 inputs of length <=9, which seems manageable < 1133700113 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1133700124 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i in "" {a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c} {a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}{a,b,c}; do echo $i | ./bfigolf entry.b; done < 1133700149 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the basic idea < 1133700928 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( feeding invalid input to a program that does no error checking is bad ) < 1133700966 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1133700968 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1133700986 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wonder why I'm getting Cell value too small (-1) errors :) < 1133701016 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an off-by-one bug in bfigolf.c (probably not serious though) < 1133701023 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of? < 1133701029 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've used another interpreter) < 1133701041 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, the realloc should be realloc(mem, (maxmp+1024+1)*sizeof(unsigned char)) < 1133701054 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i don't understand about that :) < 1133701055 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the same without +1 < 1133701080 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha.. well, maybe you should inform calamari, i think < 1133701085 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case < 1133701198 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: any others than we going to enter the competition? < 1133701283 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: I'll write a forum post < 1133701461 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: I don't know; the usual suspects would be Laurent and Daniel. I've not heard anything from them for a while (but I've been staying away myself, too, so I wouldn't know.) < 1133701665 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1133701698 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. laurent asked the value of new-line to be defined when the competition began, but haven't heard of him since then < 1133701722 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope we will get more entries < 1133701809 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix was at least working on one, i think.. and calamari < 1133702059 0 :jix!i=jix@F3530.f.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1133702198 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. jix, are you still working on your bfgolf entry? < 1133702211 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1133702221 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww. < 1133702240 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Keymaker and I are wondering if there will be more than 2 entries) < 1133702356 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least it'll be interesting to see the different ways we (probably) are using < 1133702366 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the a^n b^n c^n case? < 1133702404 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1133702424 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did consider trying to write an entry, but haven't had the time. < 1133702430 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1133702436 0 :Sgep!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133702439 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time seems to be a problem with many, i suppose < 1133702628 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: got e-mail address? i'd need to ask one thing kinda related to this contest < 1133702682 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i can't use private messages < 1133702690 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: unregistered users can't < 1133702716 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i don't ask here in public is that the project is a surprise, kind of.. < 1133707131 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* about 16 hours or something till the end of the competition.. < 1133707595 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll definitely not write another entry nor optimize the one I have further *eg* < 1133707616 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone submits a 331 bytes one < 1133707683 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's a winning solution i'd assume < 1133712633 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: eh, shouldn't that be 40 hours? < 1133712671 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1133712675 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm good at math ;) < 1133715250 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1133715252 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1133717406 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133717517 0 :Sgep!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133718287 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1133718440 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1133722417 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133722475 0 :kipple!n=kipple@168.80-202-98.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1133723998 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133724010 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :```si`k``si`k``sii``s``s`kski < 1133724066 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the Church numeral for Steinhaus's Mega. < 1133724614 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ```si`k``si`k``si`k``sii``s``s`kski is much, much bigger... < 1133727332 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now here's a nice sequence: !1 = 2, !2 = 8, !3 = 402653184*2^402653184. < 1133728178 0 :lirthy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1133728798 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1133728805 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halloo < 1133728826 0 :Sgep!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooga < 1133728996 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1133729068 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want finally to develop own, huge, usefull language and become lie Larry Wall or Bjarne Stroustrup < 1133729076 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1133729106 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like* < 1133729199 0 :lirthy!i=klutzy@dor20517.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1133729204 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to help me? ;p < 1133729285 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me, maybe. < 1133729288 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to become like Larry Wall, the primary developer of a language so huge and obnoxious that it's /not/ useful? < 1133729351 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean "\/not\/" ? ;) < 1133729368 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1133729369 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i will begin with simple things... like compiling arithmetic expressions, flow control and simple types < 1133729397 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i've spent the last two days writing a compiler for a school project < 1133729409 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait! Functional or imperative? < 1133729418 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've spend last year trying to write complete compiler :] < 1133729439 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: oh :) < 1133729447 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you obviously lack some deadlines :) < 1133729458 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: ? < 1133729468 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Finish a compiler for it tomorrow or I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN < 1133729475 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tada, deadlines. < 1133729486 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it should be like C++ (but more like Java) + perl + ML ;] < 1133729500 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All imperative, then? < 1133729507 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1133729556 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't ML support functional programming well? < 1133729568 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1133729579 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i meant "a little bit of ML" < 1133729612 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to allow something like this: a = {something; something; something;} + b; < 1133729621 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1133729632 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soemtimes it's usefull < 1133729649 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = map (+b) [something,something,something] < 1133729742 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i plan builtin perl-like regexp < 1133729763 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fuc**g headers like in C++ < 1133729787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methods implemented inside classes < 1133729793 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out what curse word is spelled fuc__g ... one too few letters for fucking ... < 1133729816 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but treat * like in wildcards... < 1133729834 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll treat it like regex :P < 1133729840 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it could be fucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccg < 1133729849 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucing, I suppose... < 1133729887 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh -.-' < 1133729893 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING allright? < 1133729911 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASP YOU TYPED A CURSY WORD!!!!!!! < 1133729923 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about the FUCKING K before FUCKING C < 1133729943 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares in some ranom direction < 1133729981 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The random direction happens to be exactly towards the screen) < 1133729988 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-130-108.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1133729990 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1133729992 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1133729993 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1133729994 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after < 1133729997 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaterver < 1133729999 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;/ < 1133730157 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1133730178 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1133730183 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: Ping? < 1133730185 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1133730185 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1133730215 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests Linguine for the Ego Bot < 1133730282 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if IRCbots like lignuine < 1133730294 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguine? < 1133730308 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls < 1133730310 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lazyk malbolge pbrain rail sadol sceql udage01 < 1133730314 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but they can only take one line.. :) < 1133730315 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay lag! < 1133730337 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls < 1133730337 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lazyk malbolge pbrain rail sadol sceql udage01 < 1133730348 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless Gregor changed it so that programs can use \n for multiple lines < 1133730348 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1133730349 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SADOL < 1133730358 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's SADOL there!!! < 1133730363 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: maybe http://www.cs.hut.fi/Opinnot/T-106.550/Harjoitustyo/vaihe3.pdf could be helpful to you? < 1133730377 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !"1a < 1133730385 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1133730391 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha ;p < 1133730427 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can use URLs. < 1133730432 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use pastebin for multiple lines. < 1133730464 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!pastebin < 1133730470 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol (3~f1(5:a0:b1:i2@| < 1133731415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me for that "shut up"...0.0 < 1133731415 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is so 90's < 1133731425 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not perl 5 ;p < 1133731439 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1133731442 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got to lear ruby < 1133731447 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn < 1133731467 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd buy a new perl book for version 5, if I ever used the books I currently have < 1133731491 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could sell them as "Like New" :( < 1133731800 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i elarn new languages from the net and documentation < 1133731810 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the first two is the worse < 1133731819 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then every another is much easier < 1133731849 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learnd the first language from a computer magazine... < 1133732107 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first was pascaal < 1133732121 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first was real-basic < 1133732128 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a visual-basic clone for mac os < 1133732917 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1133733204 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1133733205 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac < 1133733248 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: tell me, is "Leena" name for a woman or man?? < 1133733331 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: at least in finnish that's woman's name < 1133733463 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1133733472 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Mika? < 1133733590 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: that's man's name < 1133733609 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1133733681 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Polish most woman's names are ended with 'a', only exeption is diminution for name Jakub - Kuba < 1133733688 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kuba is man's name < 1133733702 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1133733759 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that avoids mistakes :> < 1133733969 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, does most adjectives in finnish end with -nen ? < 1133734009 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: some do but i wouldn't say that most < 1133734046 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just flipping through a finnish dictionary < 1133734051 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1133734074 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've tried to learn finnish but there's no good courses < 1133734095 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only phrase books and dictionaries ;/ < 1133734297 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1133734323 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hell hard! < 1133734390 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably :) < 1133734424 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polish is well known as a truly hard one < 1133734448 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Finnish is worse ;d < 1133734497 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. maybe that's because I use Polish fluently from child < 1133734509 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's my natural, native language < 1133734533 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for english-native, it's really hard to learn korean < 1133734546 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for korean-native, learning english is somewhat easier < 1133734561 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here i think... < 1133734585 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since korean is refered to be more complex than english < 1133734591 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so may the force be with you, nooga < 1133734597 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is easier than Polish, Korean, Chineese, Finnish, Hungarian, Russian, Nyjorsk, Dannish... and some other ;;p < 1133734610 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English* < 1133734644 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you(and i)'ve got a good condition to learn another language... having a complex lang for own native lang < 1133734673 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1133734791 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frend of mine have learned hangul < 1133735088 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i saw a Finn in out TV who speaks Polish fluently and without any odd accent < 1133735096 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our* < 1133735121 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1133735139 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: just try to IRC on finnish channels :) < 1133735175 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you "21th" in Finnish? < 1133735182 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*say* < 1133735211 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tfu tfu 21st < 1133735227 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kahdeskymmenesensimmäinen < 1133735230 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1133735232 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew! < 1133735280 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kuka means "who" but kukka means "a flower" < 1133735287 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1133735306 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mato - worm, matto - carpet < 1133735343 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puro - stream, puuro - porridge < 1133735348 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1133735349 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. it shouldn't be a problem if you write them. pronouncing might be trickier for a foreigner though < 1133735364 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, i tried... < 1133735397 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those 16 diphtongs are also quite hard < 1133735464 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's hard to say something between a and e and i :) < 1133735478 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Polish is rather hard < 1133735536 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean we've got hard speech sounds < 1133735638 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to go < 1133735642 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1133735687 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :