00:23:28 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 00:33:02 Bler 00:33:31 The contraction of I am is I'm, I don't know what you mean by "*I*'m" vs "*I'm*" 00:42:55 Which is correcT? 00:42:59 *correct 00:44:36 Neither is correct, there are no asterisks in the word "I'm" 00:47:40 Bbbut... 00:48:06 ...If there were any, where would the second be?\ 00:48:13 s/\// 01:08:36 I totally don't understand what you're asking at all. 01:12:02 What's the proper way to put emphasis on the "I" in "I'm"? 01:18:33 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 01:18:56 You don't emphasize the I, no. 01:49:01 -!- ihope has quit (Connection timed out). 02:21:11 Today I discovered what happened to a screen session I had that vanished. 02:21:13 It was a victim of the magical, musical, vega-go-round. 02:21:16 Y'see the hostname "vega" in our Uni resolves to one of 5 computers in turn: vega0--vega4. 02:21:19 And a screen session on any one of them is not accessible or even visible from any of the others. 02:21:23 So, if you don't know that there are 5 vegas, screen sessions mysteriously disappear while you're logged off, only to re-appear weeks later. 02:21:28 (Specific vegas are accessible by the names I mentioned a moment ago. 02:21:31 If you know which one you want.) 02:21:38 * SimonRC goes to bed 02:21:47 lol 02:45:39 ________ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:46:15 * GregorR wonders who declared this game. 02:46:25 * calamari raises a tentacle 02:46:33 !hangman e 02:46:38 ________ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:46:50 !hangman a 02:46:53 ________ |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:46:55 !hangman o 02:46:58 ________ |-:( '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:00 !hangman u 02:47:03 _u______ |-:( '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:06 !hangman i 02:47:09 _u___i_i |-:( '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:18 !hangman l 02:47:21 _u___i_i |-:(< '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:24 !hangman s 02:47:26 _u___i_i |-:(<- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:29 !hangman t 02:47:34 _u___i_i |-:(<-< '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 02:47:37 Yeah, I fail. 02:47:40 !hangman q 02:47:42 Answer: zucchini 02:47:46 Blech 02:48:16 Not blech to zucchini. 02:48:19 Zucchini is tasty. 02:48:25 Blech to my inability to hangman :P 02:50:27 dc is working 02:50:48 !dc 543253 3453425 + p 02:50:50 -!- EgoBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 02:50:58 whoa 02:51:07 Thanks :P 02:51:13 what happened? 02:51:17 EgoBot is still buggy btw ;) 02:51:26 I was doing all sorts of things like that earlier with no problem 02:51:36 That's why the bug is so hard to find. 02:51:45 It works great, works great, works great, fails totally randomly. 02:51:57 error message? 02:52:05 None 02:52:06 Just segfault. 02:52:11 And I can't gdb it very easily ... 02:52:14 Since it runs through netcat. 02:52:29 -!- EgoBot has joined. 02:52:40 !dc 543253 3453425 + p 02:52:46 3996678 02:52:59 Faaaaaaantastic. 02:53:06 !dc 543253 3453425 r / p 02:53:11 6 02:53:17 What's "p"? 02:53:23 pop & print 02:53:28 GregorR: Fool! Use a typesafe language! :-) 02:53:32 * SimonRC nores 02:53:33 r swaps the top 2 items 02:53:34 * SimonRC snores 02:55:57 !dc 73P32P108P111ddP118P101P32P69P115PP66PP116P33P 02:56:01 I love EsoBot! 02:56:20 I would love if EsoBot had decent language support :P 02:56:20 aww, thanks :) 02:56:26 hehe yeah 02:57:01 Can you even do pipe-fork-exec from Java? 02:57:30 Java has threads 02:57:51 and I was able to simulate a lot with that 02:58:03 Ah yes, Java is C++ for pansies, right. 02:58:04 for example in the EsoShell 02:58:04 Got it. 02:58:05 :) 02:58:56 I live Java.. it's easy to work with. Python too, although Python could really use some braces 02:59:01 like even 02:59:06 I donnt live Java lol 02:59:21 lol 02:59:23 actually haven't used it in a while now, been using Python 03:00:23 I don't dislike Python, though I agree with the braces. 03:00:26 Or at least endif. 03:00:46 I HATE the indenting thing, it makes it obnoxious to figure out when a block ends. 03:00:49 -!- lirthy has joined. 03:00:52 something so that if I move things around I dont have to figure evverything out again 03:00:58 yeah 03:01:22 But it's better than Perl 8-D 03:01:24 (Doesn't take much) 03:02:05 harder to write obfuscated code in python 03:02:12 Hahahah 03:02:21 It's easy to write obfuscated code in Perl, just write code. 03:02:22 although I guess that should be a positive 03:02:36 nah Perl code can be readable 03:02:59 Yes, it can. 03:03:08 But it's a language that actively encourages its users to write terrible code. 03:03:41 and its great how apt has a dependency on it 03:03:57 I once wrote a packaging system in perl >_< 03:04:02 Wish I'd written it in C. 03:04:15 And by "once" 03:04:18 I mean "last year" 03:04:24 wish they would rewrite that part.. I'd prefer not to have dependencies on anything.. statically linked would be ideal 03:04:55 Yeah, creates a chicken-and-the-egg problem. 03:06:34 plus it'd be cool.. take any old Linux distro and with one app upgrade into a full system 03:07:21 I did finally break out on my laptop tho, so apt doesn't produce errors now 03:07:35 ubuntu on a umsdos filesystem :P 03:07:42 Ow ow ow ow ow. 03:08:16 it's ancient and so the drive is too small to partition 03:09:02 works ok as a second terminal if my main system is in use.. I just ssh over 03:11:29 Gaar, can't replicate a crash in GDB >_< 03:15:46 !help 03:15:50 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon 03:15:51 1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain rail sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda 03:15:56 !help daemon 03:15:59 Use: daemon

Function: start a daemon process. 03:16:12 !ps 03:16:15 1 calamari: ps 03:16:24 !ls 03:16:28 bf/, glass/, linguine/ 03:16:32 !ls glass/ 03:16:35 dice.glass, hangman.glass, urls.glass 03:17:12 !daemon hangman glass file://glass/hangman.glass 03:17:15 Hangman started! Type /msg EgoBot '!hangman ' to start a game! 03:17:31 ________ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:18:04 !hangman elephants 03:18:07 _______e | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:18:14 !hangman apples 03:18:17 _a_____e | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:18:24 !hangman orang utans 03:18:28 _a_____e |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:18:44 !hangman sleepy 03:18:48 _a_____e |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:18:55 !hangman coronation 03:18:57 _a____ce |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:19:19 !hangman trot 03:19:23 _a____ce |-:( '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:19:40 !hangman undigestable 03:19:43 _au___ce |-:( '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:19:57 !hangman hospitable 03:20:01 _au___ce |-:(< '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:20:15 !hangman laundry 03:20:20 _au___ce |-:(<- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:20:47 !hangman norweigan 03:20:49 _aun__ce |-:(<- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:21:17 !hangman important 03:21:22 _aun_ice |-:(<- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:22:16 >_> 03:22:40 !hangman royale 03:22:45 _aun_ice |-:(<-< '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 03:23:11 !hangman forget it, I lost 03:23:15 Answer: jaundice 03:23:19 D'oh 03:23:24 I had jaundice :P 03:23:48 so did I.. and Michael too 03:24:06 not much tho, seems to be going away 03:24:17 I was a different race as a baby :P 03:24:52 ok whatever :) 03:25:41 Seriously! If you looked at a baby picture of me, you'd wonder where my African parents were XD 04:18:31 -!- Sgeo has quit. 05:15:43 ___ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:15:49 !hangman A 05:15:53 Answer: AAA 05:16:00 Yes, it will take upper case :P 05:16:01 ___ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:16:05 This is called "lazy Glass code" 05:16:07 ___ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:16:12 hehe 05:16:29 Answer: AAA 05:18:05 ___ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:18:18 !hangman $ 05:18:21 !hangman * 05:18:21 $__ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:18:23 !hangman @ 05:18:25 $*_ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:18:27 Answer: $*@ 05:18:47 why do I like to torture programs 05:18:56 !hangman 05:18:59 | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 05:19:22 !hangman 05:19:25 terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range' 05:19:57 !ps 05:20:01 1 calamari: ps 05:20:51 !dc 05:21:25 !dc z 05:21:39 !dc X 05:21:41 'X' (88) unimplemented, commands: pnPf+-*/cdrqZXz# 05:21:48 nice 05:23:14 !dc zp 05:23:17 0 05:23:25 !dc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzp 05:23:27 25 05:55:27 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 06:24:37 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 06:25:28 -!- GregorR has joined. 06:25:47 !ps 06:25:50 1 GregorR: ps 06:46:23 -!- CXI has quit (Connection timed out). 07:37:12 -!- CXI has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:44:22 -!- Gs30ng has joined. 09:44:27 -!- Gs30ng has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:45:44 -!- Uvanta has joined. 09:49:09 i'm gs30ng 09:49:31 i changed my english name somewhat more readable (or i just hope so) 09:49:45 *english nickname, i meant 10:14:36 -!- Keymaker has joined. 10:27:26 need.. to.. blink.. keyboard.. leds.. *dies* 10:35:01 -!- sp3tt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:35:33 Yaaaay, my apartment complex's network administrators log all my IM conversations and web traffic -_- 11:06:58 -!- jix has joined. 11:07:37 -!- sp3tt has joined. 11:55:12 sweet! use more ssh 11:55:40 I wish I could ssh into AIM :P 11:55:47 First thing tomorrow I'm putting a notice on the bulletin board. 11:56:13 how do you know they do it? 11:56:32 They apparently have two block-levels. One makes the page just "fail to connect" 11:56:35 The other is more of a warning. 11:56:44 And it brings up a dialog with a URL of http://10.10.1.22/... 11:56:57 Go to http://10.10.1.22/ and, well, looki there, here are my AIM logs ... and URL history. 11:57:33 yours? you mean everybody's in the complex? 11:57:40 I can only see my own. 11:57:44 I looked up the software though. 11:57:47 Admins can see everybody's. 11:57:52 Users can see their own. 11:58:08 why do your apartment complex's admins block sites at all? 11:58:17 Because their nazis >_< 11:58:21 I also can't use BitTorrent. 11:58:26 Not even for downloading the latest Mandriva. 11:58:29 i don't get it 11:58:34 Downloading ISOs over ftp is a huge PITA >_< 11:58:35 apartments are for living in 11:59:21 certainly not cool 11:59:32 but of course it's their right. 11:59:46 I'm not sure that it is ... 12:00:08 That is, logging. 12:00:15 Blocking BitTorrent they can do if they please, of course. 12:00:22 it very likely is, otherwise that software wouldn't exist 12:00:42 I know that it's legal at businesses if you tell the employees that they're being logged. 12:00:50 But on shaky ground if you don't. 12:01:03 (And explicitly illegal in quite a number of states) 12:01:06 perhaps they "told you" somewhere in a very fine print 12:01:32 I've pored through the contract. 12:01:43 There's only one page on the network, and all tenant responsibilities. 12:01:57 hm 12:02:05 are you gonna threaten them with a lawsuit? :) 12:02:23 I'd reaaaaaaaaaally prefer not to. 12:02:34 I'd rather just make it obvious that I have the law on my side >_> 12:02:40 Since it's a clear violation of privacy. 12:02:47 i rather doubt they'd go "oops, sorry, we didn't realize we were logging you, we'll stop now" 12:03:13 Actually, they might. 12:03:20 There is 0 communication between the network guys and everybody else. 12:03:33 what kind of sites do they block? 12:03:50 Basically anything that provides illegal downloads. 12:04:04 And they put "warnings" on seemingly random pages. 12:04:16 heh 12:04:21 Gasp, this web comic is "warned" because of P2P content. 12:04:25 Yes, this web comic. Hmm. 12:04:45 perhaps the software just looks for keywords 12:05:01 Would you like the complete log of all IM conversations I've had? 12:05:07 37 pages for a few days. 12:05:10 All sorts of dull crap there. 12:05:18 None of it illicit or illegal. 12:05:18 umm.... no? 12:05:37 I'm just saying that all of this is logged despite having no obvious keywords. 12:05:51 no that's different 12:06:03 Oh, you're referring to the blocking. 12:06:06 right 12:06:18 but logging im conversations is clearly fucked up 12:06:21 The blocking is obnoxious, but not a violation of privacy, so it's a secondary issue for me. 12:06:30 As well as all the URLs I've visited. 12:07:12 wouldn't nearly every provider log urls 12:07:13 ? 12:07:23 just in the DNS log or whatever 12:08:04 Well, it's one thing to have a sort of generic log that's more of a "when DNS was used" for debugging purposes sort of log. 12:08:11 It could reveal information but is not intended to. 12:08:23 This serves the specific role of revealing what sites a tenant has accessed. 12:08:37 heh 12:08:48 nasty. 12:10:17 *sigh* 13:07:45 -!- lirthy has quit ("you should feel more feel you should take more take"). 13:07:58 -!- lirthy has joined. 13:21:11 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 14:40:00 -!- ihope has joined. 15:56:27 -!- Sgeo has joined. 16:03:03 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:04:19 -!- Uvanta has quit. 17:31:17 -!- lindi- has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 18:13:03 -!- nooga has joined. 18:14:01 me has just bought Canon PIXMA iP2200 and it doesn't work 18:14:16 grrr 18:14:21 stupid windows 18:18:11 having problems with spoolsv.exe 21:08:19 copy con prt 21:12:41 hi :! 22:44:25 'ello all 22:45:58 hi 22:46:04 * nooga pink floyd - time 23:00:28 My brother was playing a game once. He suddenly met the edge of the playing field. 23:00:45 Don't these game developers know that playing fields don't have to have edges? 23:01:04 * nooga is drinking guinness 23:01:16 Have you set any world records yet? 23:01:28 no :> 23:03:03 So for the edges thing: why? Why do they put edges on these playing fields? 23:03:08 guinness is damn expensive 23:03:15 They don't know any better. They must be STUPID game designers! 23:03:35 ihope: because they're dumb and don't know infinity? 23:03:46 Makes sense, it does! 23:03:50 I bet they even worked out all the features by hand! 23:07:01 yo 23:07:42 I bet their lists of prime numbers look like [2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,39,41,43,47...] 23:11:10 what 23:14:21 Bringing lazy evaluation to a whole new level... 23:45:07 -!- calamari has joined. 23:45:13 hi 23:45:21 Ello 23:45:50 !ps 23:45:54 1 calamari: ps 23:46:17 hi 23:46:18 !daemon help 23:46:35 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:46:40 That's !help daemon 23:46:47 yeah, but I rememe3bered 23:47:07 !daemon hangman glass file://glass/hangman.glass 23:47:10 Hangman started! Type /msg EgoBot '!hangman ' to start a game! 23:47:18 !ps d 23:47:19 1 calamari: daemon hangman glass 23:47:21 2 ihope: ps 23:47:57 __________ | '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:50:17 I suppose somebody's supposed to be guessing here? :P 23:50:27 Not me. I started it. 23:50:59 e 23:51:01 erm 23:51:03 !hangman e 23:51:08 __________ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:51:31 # You can't take the sky from me. # 23:51:34 !hangman a 23:51:38 ________a_ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:51:44 !hangman t 23:51:48 SimonRC: Firefly? 23:51:48 ____t___a_ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:51:52 GregorR: yes 23:51:55 !hangman o 23:51:58 ____t_o_a_ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:52:00 !hangman n 23:52:05 __n_t_ona_ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:52:06 !hangman i 23:52:10 __n_tiona_ |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:52:16 !hangman l 23:52:19 __n_tional |- '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:52:33 !hangman s 23:52:36 __n_tional |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:54:04 !hangman u 23:54:08 _un_tional |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:54:28 !hangman f 23:54:29 !hangman c 23:54:32 fun_tional |-: '!hangman ' to guess a letter! 23:54:34 Answer: functional 23:55:11 ah, of course