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00:07:27 <GregorR> Now TODAY has been full of EXCITING conversations on #esoteric and ##brainfuck!
00:07:43 <Keymaker> :)
00:08:48 <jix> GregorR: yeah i got 4MB of logfiles
00:08:52 <calamari> I wonder if I've been hacked
00:09:19 <jix> (after converting them to bf code and converting that bf code from 32 to 8 bit (twice)....)
00:09:33 <jix> gn8
00:09:38 <Keymaker> :)
00:09:40 <Keymaker> nite
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00:12:05 <GregorR> calamari: ?
00:12:25 <calamari> GregorR: lots of traffic.. not sure why
00:12:33 <calamari> tcpdump is going crazy
00:17:51 <GregorR> SMTP?
00:18:39 <calamari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8511
00:18:49 <calamari> no clue how to read that tho
00:19:29 <calamari> downloading ethereal, it's supposed to be able to tell me something
00:19:59 <calamari> even if I'm not hacked, whatever this is is wasting my bandwidth.. hehe
00:23:11 <calamari> seems to have stopped now.. heh
00:28:39 <kipple> that means it's probably someone on #esoteric as he stopped when he heard he was noticed... ;)
00:29:51 <Keymaker> <.<
00:29:52 <Keymaker> >.>
00:30:02 <Keymaker> heh
00:57:56 <fizzie> That tcpdump output looks much like a normal SSH connection (with some interactive program running) to me.
01:10:35 * GregorR released a new version of Giki today ... it's awesome ^^
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01:47:35 <Keymaker> night
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02:00:40 <GregorR> Hmm, think I should add "Talk:" pages to Giki?
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03:56:18 <calamari> re's
03:57:02 <GregorR> 'lo
04:35:26 <calamari> bbl
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08:05:59 <nooga> hi
08:06:17 <GregorR> 'lo nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooga
08:06:49 <nooga> hi GregorR
08:07:11 <nooga> I saw your Giki 
08:07:32 <nooga> and it inspired me to write something like it by myself
08:08:01 <GregorR> LOL
08:08:05 <GregorR> I didn't even write Giki by myself X-P
08:08:10 <GregorR> It's based on another project.
08:09:00 <nooga> oh
08:10:34 <nooga> pitty
08:10:59 <nooga> i'll try to write mine by myself
08:11:47 <GregorR> It's not that it's a particularly difficult thing to do *shrugs*
08:11:56 <GregorR> Though your time would be better invested writing plugins for Giki ^^
08:13:39 <nooga> giggle
08:15:43 <nooga> mediawiki is very nice
08:16:11 <GregorR> *bleh bleh bleh your project sucks Gregor bleh bleh bleh*
08:16:13 <GregorR> ;)
08:16:46 <nooga> oh come on ;p
08:16:54 <nooga> i can make a skin for giki
08:17:27 <GregorR> Pff, that's simple, just edit template.html
08:17:42 <nooga> good ;p
08:18:24 <GregorR> What's your native language?
08:18:44 <GregorR> Polish?
08:18:48 <GregorR> (I must assume)
08:19:00 <nooga> yes
08:19:13 <nooga> why do you ask?
08:19:16 <GregorR> You could translate Giki >:)
08:19:21 <nooga> i could translate, sure
08:19:31 <GregorR> Just copy language.en.php to language.pl.php and edit the strings.
08:20:08 <nooga> i'll checkout from CVS
08:29:21 <nooga> hehe, i think i will change something more in your giki ;>
08:32:07 <GregorR> If you can do it as a plugin, that would be preferable >_>
08:57:20 <nooga> no, i'll modify the core to split up presentation from data and i will migrate to xhtml
09:00:22 <nooga> what is "tis true." ? ;p
09:02:29 <GregorR> In response to that first comment: "Ow."
09:02:42 <GregorR> In response to the second one: It's just sort of a filler phrase.
09:03:05 <GregorR> Something like "Indeed." would work fine, it's just to keep the mood light XD
09:03:55 <GregorR> So, first off, what do you mean by "split up presentation from data"?
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09:26:39 <nooga> hm
09:26:58 <nooga> get rid of this: 
09:26:58 <nooga> $revhistory = "<b>Historia zmian</b>";
09:27:09 <nooga> formatting in config!?!!?
09:27:48 <GregorR> Hmm, that's a bit ... odd.
09:27:54 * GregorR wonders why that's there.
09:28:05 <GregorR> I think that might be a carry-over from "Wiki!"
09:28:12 <nooga> oh ;p
09:28:37 <GregorR> Easy enough change though *shrugs*
09:28:39 <nooga> $bar_prefix = "<ul><li>";
09:28:40 <nooga> $bar_separator = " </li><li> ";
09:28:40 <nooga> $bar_postfix = "</li></ul>";
09:28:48 <nooga> bar on lists 
09:28:52 <nooga> menu on lists
09:29:12 <nooga> taken language settings to config.php from language.php
09:30:14 <GregorR> *shrugs*
09:30:26 <GregorR> What exactly are you doing ...?
09:34:08 <nooga> hm improving giki, making my own version.. . xD
09:34:14 <nooga> fear not
09:34:36 <GregorR> Please submit patches back so I can shuffle through them and get rid of the ones I don't like X-P
09:46:59 <nooga> i'll pack that up 
09:47:37 <nooga> i won't dare putting my changes to cvs
09:48:16 <GregorR> Well, you couldn't put 'em in Giki CVS anyway.
09:54:31 <nooga> yeah ;p
10:13:05 <nooga> left menu should be in php
10:13:24 <nooga> to enable it to be multilanguage
10:14:47 <GregorR> Umm, multi-language as in translated at runtime?
10:15:02 <GregorR> (IE Spanish for one user, German for another, Polish for another ...)
10:15:08 <nooga> <li><a href="index.php"><?php print $index; ?></a></li>
10:15:09 <nooga> <li><a href="upload.php"><?php print $upload; ?></a></li>
10:15:09 <nooga> <li><a href="login.php"><?php print $login; ?></a></li>
10:15:09 <nooga> <li><a href="adduser.php"><?php print $adduser; ?></a></li>
10:15:42 <GregorR> $node[LeftBar]
10:16:21 <nooga> where?
10:16:41 <GregorR> Anywhere in template.html, you can put "$node[SomeTitle]" and it will put an actual wiki node there.
10:16:47 <GregorR> That way, you can make it editable in the wiki.
10:16:56 <GregorR> That's the ultimate solution, but not feasable for the builtin template.
10:17:22 <nooga> but php in template des not execute
10:17:42 <GregorR> Indeed it does not.
10:17:49 <GregorR> It's not PHP.
10:17:54 <GregorR> Just "$node[SomeTitle]"
10:18:05 <GregorR> template.html is not executed as PHP, it's parsed.
10:19:29 <nooga> yeah i know
10:20:23 <nooga> oh
10:20:30 <GregorR> Well, just put "$node[LeftBar]" in where the left <ul>...</ul> is, you will be pleasantly surprised.
10:20:55 <nooga> i see
10:21:04 <nooga> "This document is empty"
10:21:09 <nooga> node*
10:21:23 <GregorR> Well, you have to put some content there too X-P
10:21:34 <GregorR> Click the "E" on it.
10:22:22 <nooga> why does "all nodes" button is in top bar?
10:22:33 <nooga> shouldn't it be on the left?
10:22:54 <GregorR> Heheh, I wasn't very picky about where I put things ^^
10:24:41 <nooga> omg
10:25:02 <nooga> now, how to make list of links?
10:25:49 <GregorR> Are you using GikiWikiSyntax?
10:26:18 <nooga> i think yes
10:26:48 <GregorR> * [Index]
10:26:55 <GregorR> * [Log In|:login.php]
10:26:56 <GregorR> Etc
10:26:56 <GregorR> etc
10:28:13 <nooga> oh
10:28:44 <GregorR> You know, this is all in README ;)
10:28:56 <nooga> i see stars
10:28:59 <nooga> bot list ;p
10:29:01 <nooga> not*
10:29:36 <GregorR> Then you're not using GikiWikiSyntax.
10:29:49 <nooga> how to use it?
10:29:56 <GregorR> config.php has a $plugins line
10:30:03 <GregorR> $plugins = array("noHTML", "GWS");
10:30:15 <GregorR> Or if you want to allow HTML, you can take off the "noHTML" part :)
10:30:56 <nooga> oh
10:30:59 <nooga> it works ;]
10:31:18 <GregorR> There ya go, a conveniently editable leftbar.
10:32:07 <nooga> hah
10:32:17 <nooga> it can't parse polish letters xD
10:32:38 <GregorR> Humm ..........
10:32:41 <GregorR> I don't see why not ........
10:32:51 <jix> nooga: are you using utf8?
10:32:59 <jix> i think php's default working charset is iso-latin-1
10:33:12 <nooga> yes
10:33:15 <nooga> i mean no
10:33:30 <GregorR> But IIRC, that shouldn't matter, since this is just pass-thru.
10:34:17 <fizzie> Well, the headers obviously need to match the content.
10:34:33 <nooga> bah
10:34:40 <nooga> my stupid sister wants me to end
10:34:54 <nooga> i'll never hack if i can sit here only 3 hours -.-'
10:34:58 <GregorR> Anyway, time for sleep for me.
10:35:07 <GregorR> 2:30AM here XP
10:35:07 <nooga> g2g
10:35:08 <nooga> bye
10:35:09 <GregorR> *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
10:35:11 <GregorR> Bye
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10:35:15 <jix> gn8 GregorR 
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12:21:50 <SimonRC> feck, missed nooga again.
12:22:04 <SimonRC> ("< nooga> hehe i'm working on own, natural language")
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14:21:51 <SimonRC> hi (2)
14:23:09 <kipple> hello
14:29:44 <jix> moin
14:30:18 <SimonRC> "moin"?
14:32:30 <jix> hello
14:32:42 <SimonRC> umm, ok
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17:09:01 <wooby> howdy
17:11:03 <SimonRC> 8hi
17:12:11 <jix> moin wooby 
17:13:45 <wooby> whats new and cool in esoteric languages
17:14:41 <jix> rhotor ;)
17:14:42 <wooby> been out of the loop for awhille
17:15:26 <jix> do you know glass?
17:16:51 <wooby> yeah, i'm down with glass
17:18:34 <jix> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Glass << this glass?
17:22:07 <SimonRC> yeah
17:24:03 <jix> wooby: when was the last time you checked esolangs?
17:28:57 <wooby> 3 or 4 months ago
17:29:51 <jix> hmm
17:30:04 <jix> linguine is pretty new but maybe not that new...
17:30:11 <jix> rhotor is really very new
17:31:37 <SimonRC> wooby: oh, BTW, there is a ##brainfuck, now (sic)
17:32:02 <wooby> oh, sweet
17:32:56 <SimonRC> ask GregorR about c2bf
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19:33:26 <SimonRC> hi
19:33:39 <SimonRC> any why are you on IRC as root?
19:34:07 <BodyTag> Who what where?
19:40:04 <jix> BodyTag: your ident
19:40:09 <SimonRC> yeah
19:40:20 <SimonRC> """-!- BodyTag [n=root@216-169-189.0504.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #esoteric"""
19:40:24 <jix> my ident isn't my username too
19:40:46 <BodyTag> I have no idea. :D
19:41:07 <SimonRC> I assume you're on a Windows box.
19:41:24 <jix> no
19:41:37 * SimonRC was talking to BodyTag.
19:41:40 <SimonRC> So, you are most likely an admin.
19:41:52 <jix> but there are many identds that allow you to set any ident response
19:41:55 <BodyTag> Oh right, my user account is called root. XD
19:42:46 <BodyTag> And yes, I'm using Windows.
19:43:06 <SimonRC> ah
19:43:13 <SimonRC> you have a sense of humour
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21:45:40 <ihope> !help
21:45:43 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
21:45:45 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain rail sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda
21:46:25 <ihope> !trigger MMMaaakkkeee   iiittt   ssstttoooppp!!!
21:46:29 <EgoBot> Make it stop!
21:46:46 <ihope> !trigger Eh?
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22:01:24 <BodyTag> Hm... Does the EgoBot brainfuck interpreter support input?
22:01:35 <GregorR> !help i
22:01:37 <EgoBot> Use: i <pid> <input>  Function: send input to a process
22:01:59 <BodyTag> Nice. :D
22:02:20 <ihope> !bf ,[.,]
22:02:22 <ihope> !ps
22:02:25 <EgoBot> 1 ihope: bf
22:02:27 <EgoBot> 2 ihope: ps
22:02:36 <ihope> !i 1 Hello, world!
22:02:38 <ihope> !eof 1
22:02:41 <EgoBot> Hello, world!
22:04:14 <BodyTag> !i 1 Is the bfi still running?
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22:05:17 <ihope> !ps
22:05:21 <EgoBot> 1 ihope: ps
22:05:58 <BodyTag> Yeah, right after trying that I saw the eof command you sent D:
22:17:06 <BodyTag> !bf >,[>,]<[.[-]<]
22:17:08 <BodyTag> !ps
22:17:11 <EgoBot> 1 BodyTag: bf
22:17:13 <EgoBot> 2 BodyTag: ps
22:17:31 <BodyTag> !i 1 testing
22:17:35 <BodyTag> !eof 1
22:17:39 <EgoBot> gnitset
22:17:44 <BodyTag> !ps
22:17:48 <EgoBot> 1 BodyTag: ps
22:17:51 <BodyTag> Nice.
22:18:57 <GregorR> You can !i \n, too
22:19:08 <ihope> What about \\?
22:19:29 <ihope> !lazyk i
22:19:33 <ihope> !ps
22:19:36 <EgoBot> 1 ihope: lazyk
22:19:37 <BodyTag> \n is 10, right?
22:19:38 <EgoBot> 2 ihope: ps
22:19:41 <GregorR> Yeah
22:19:47 <ihope> !i 1 foo\\nbar
22:19:49 <ihope> !eof 1
22:19:51 <EgoBot> foo\nbar
22:20:09 <ihope> Foonbar...
22:21:02 <BodyTag> !bf >,----------[>,----------]<[.[-]<]
22:21:12 <BodyTag> !i 1 test\n
22:21:15 <EgoBot> ji[j
22:21:39 <BodyTag> Guh, forgot to add 10 afterwards.
22:22:06 <BodyTag> Oh, the joys of programming in brainfuck.
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23:33:40 <calamari> hi
23:37:15 <GregorR> Hey squiddy.
23:37:31 <calamari> hi hatty
23:37:35 <GregorR> n=gregor@tor/session/x-651fa1a77eed377f < Gregor is on TOR now ^^
23:37:47 <calamari> what is that?
23:38:20 <GregorR> It's a privacy/censorship-prevention network.
23:38:34 <GregorR> Since my building logs all my connections still.
23:39:11 <calamari> so tor encrypts traffic and decrpts remotely for you?
23:39:32 <GregorR> After going through some random end node.
23:39:37 <calamari> cool
23:39:38 <GregorR> Which has no correlation to me.
23:41:06 * calamari just finished his income taxes.. so much for the boston tea party :(
23:42:02 <GregorR> Hah
23:42:09 <GregorR> They tried valiently ;)
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23:47:50 <calamari> if they are ever going to do a free tax software, it seems like some kind of custom wiki would be the way to go
23:48:29 <calamari> hihope
23:48:35 <ihope> Ello
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23:55:40 <ihope> ...Hey, Gregor left his Ego behind!
23:56:14 <ihope> I guess that means that he was GrrR when he was away.