00:26:01 <GregorR> WORST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE EVER
00:26:43 * kipple comforts Java. There there....
00:27:05 <GregorR> * Java spits in kipple's face ('cuz that's what it does. It draws you in with it's underdogness then rapes you of your dignity)
00:28:16 <GregorR> In case you couldn't tell, I'm doing my homework for my Java class right now X-P
03:35:39 <calamari> ahh Java.. what a great language! :)
04:00:41 <GregorR> calamari: If I have an abstract class a, and I have an instance of a class a, can I tell which derived class type it is?
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05:03:53 <calamari> how can you have an instance of an abstract class? they can't be instantiated
05:06:57 <calamari> you can extend an abstract class, or implement an interface
05:08:43 <calamari> not sure what derived class means tho.. looking that up hehe
05:13:11 <calamari> still not sure exactly what you're asking.. but perhaps instanceof is what you're looking for?
05:16:41 <GregorR> Yeah, it was intanceof X-P
05:20:06 <GregorR> Pay MONEY for a book on a language I hate?!
05:22:40 <calamari> *shrug* don't see the big problem with Java :)
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05:47:01 <calamari> here's a palindrome: Roger, Gregor
05:48:36 <calamari> ahh thanks amazon.. search inside this book == give me the entire book for free online
05:49:07 <calamari> it's actually quite handy for doing homework problems
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07:44:42 <nooga> hi, i've got 6 hours today
07:44:57 <GregorR> Good, I'm going to sleep in 15 minutes X-P
07:45:18 <nooga> i'm going to go to my friends internet cafe in town near mine
07:45:19 <GregorR> I just logged into Sourceforge and discovered something very very sick about myself X-D
07:45:33 <GregorR> Guess how many projects I'm a developer on.
07:45:49 <GregorR> Damn you people and your high guesses X-P
07:46:33 <GregorR> One is dead officially, one is dead unofficially, one is a no-update, write-it-once sort of thing ...
07:46:40 <nooga> i'm on 0 since SenseOS died
07:48:12 <nooga> it was so nice, own oo gui, non massive kernel (so every module could run on other machine), realtime, booted in 10 secs, POSIX ohohooh
07:48:54 <nooga> lemme recover my password ;p
07:50:14 <GregorR> Oh, by the way, I figured out what my "idea" behind UTF8 languages was.
07:50:25 <GregorR> The thing to set its output to UTF8 should be in language.whatever.php
07:50:40 <GregorR> So it'll use UTF8 if necessary, not if not.
07:51:02 <GregorR> Not sure if I agree with my own wisdom there X-P
07:51:41 <nooga> i already did that
07:53:44 <nooga> ok, you can add 'nooga' to the giki project if u wany
07:54:26 <GregorR> I will once I get through. My connection is being very slow...
07:54:46 <GregorR> By the way: Feel free to muck around with Giki's CVS all you want, but don't add any features without running them past me first.
07:54:54 <GregorR> The #1 goal of the core is to be minimal.
07:54:58 <GregorR> The #2 goal is to be expandable ^^
07:57:25 <GregorR> (Umm, unless that feature is a translation :) )
07:59:55 <nooga> automatic list of contents would be possible as a plugin? ;p
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08:01:08 <nooga> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Kingdom
08:01:23 <nooga> gray box with <b>Contents</b> [hide]
08:01:37 <GregorR> Yeah, that's certainly possible.
08:03:41 <GregorR> (Giki has a VERY robust plugin system, by the way)
08:05:29 <nooga> ok, is thare a documentation?
08:05:44 <nooga> i can write a doc as a giki :D
08:05:52 <GregorR> Meagre? Meager? Whatever :P
08:06:06 <nooga> ask me you native english guy ;p
08:06:36 <GregorR> http://giki.sourceforge.net/?title=plugin%20system
08:07:16 <nooga> it's meager, i've checked ;p
08:08:10 <nooga> so highlighting different language sources will be also a render plugin
08:09:08 <nooga> source highlighter ;p
08:10:01 <GregorR> By the way, I think the easiest way to do a TOC plugin would be to look for instances of <h1>, <h2>, etc, add <a name='blah'></a> before them, then just tack your TOC to the top.
08:10:08 <GregorR> That way, it's not specific to GikiWikiSyntax.
08:10:24 <GregorR> I of course mean "most powerful way" ^^
08:11:16 <nooga> i'll write it today
08:12:05 <GregorR> Put it in the GikiPlugins module in CVS if you put it anywhere :)
08:12:19 <GregorR> And take out the bit that says they were all written by me X-P
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08:43:03 * GregorR just discovered another installation of Giki and is asking the author for his language.fi.php :)
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11:06:31 <nooga> GregorR: are u sleeping?
11:09:29 <nooga> i think that's yes ;p
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11:28:46 <nooga> GregorR: wake up ;p ;p
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13:08:53 <nooga_> i'm in a internet cafe
13:33:42 <nooga_> http://nooga.kewlnet.int.pl/giki/index.php?title=Strona%20Glowna
13:33:51 <nooga_> check out the Tiki brand Giki Wiki
13:36:13 * SimonRC agrees with GregorR about Java.
13:43:04 <nooga_> how do you like giki layout ?
14:09:18 * SimonRC curses Sun for providing online docs only as PDFs
14:09:23 <SimonRC> (Oooh lookie! A page break right in the middle of the bit I want to read! Aren't PDFs just brillant (sic) for online viewing!)
14:11:55 <nooga_> giki wikis will be the best form of online publishment
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15:20:54 <nooga_> little quiz: 2+2 is: a) 5, b) 12, c) 11, d) 101, e) 111, f) 1111
15:55:24 <jix> 2 is 50 (ascii) and 50+50 == 100 and 100 is d
15:56:23 <jix> '2'+'2' == 'd'
15:56:30 <nooga_> i know what doyou mean
15:56:42 <jix> why OMG? then?
15:56:53 <nooga_> very complicated solution
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16:11:10 <nooga_> it's simple: it's day here!
16:11:37 <nooga_> so i can be on irc 6 or even 8 hours
16:11:42 <nooga_> http://nooga.kewlnet.int.pl/giki/index.php?title=Strona%20Glowna
16:12:31 <GregorR> That's a very nice layout ^^
16:12:42 <nooga_> ul is screwed up, renders </ul></ul> at the end of list
16:12:45 <GregorR> Shows what you can do when you have more skill at layouts than I do X-P
16:13:54 <nooga_> http://nooga.kewlnet.int.pl/giki/index.php?title=Strona%20Glowna
16:14:18 <GregorR> Unfortunately I haven't the time to look into it right now ...
16:14:22 <GregorR> Time for 11 hours of classes.
16:14:37 <GregorR> 9AM-8PM ... yaaaaaaaaaay >_>
16:15:24 <GregorR> I was referring to fixing GWS ;)
16:15:49 <nooga_> i'll fix that up by myself
16:16:40 <GregorR> If you smash the Double-/ul problem, commit that to CVS (and make sure you update the ChangeLog with an entry CVS:\n\t-Whatever)
16:18:50 <GregorR> Whoooooooooooooooot /me collapses from lack of sleep.
16:28:45 <GregorR> Thanks for your help with Giki, nooga[_]!
16:29:51 * SimonRC finds out why one doesn't run bots as root: http://bash.org/?477397
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18:56:10 <jix> moin calamari
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