< 1139962332 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1139962339 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@tor/session/x-0bc74d403aa9cc6f JOIN :#esoteric < 1139963197 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1139963234 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1139963975 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1139967787 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1139974075 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-130-108.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1139974356 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1139975691 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5YaZwz29.html < 1139975703 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1139975713 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong chan ;) < 1139978211 0 :lirtzy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"\r\n" < 1139978222 0 :lwrtzy!i=klutzy@211.107.205.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1139978236 0 :lwrtzy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1139978241 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@122.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1139978290 0 :lwrtzy!i=klutzy@211.107.205.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1139978426 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1139978857 0 :Paragon_!i=Arrogant@204.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1139979582 0 :fungebob!n=chatzill@68-66-200-23.ventca.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1139979676 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1139979773 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1139979913 0 :CXII!n=Sanity@dialup-205.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1139980987 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1139983546 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1139983562 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-b7769a1f1f26696c JOIN :#esoteric < 1139984400 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1139984403 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@tor/session/x-b84bda24a7a54076 JOIN :#esoteric < 1139985180 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1139985902 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1139985914 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@207.44.180.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1139986943 0 :S0LaREXN!i=sular@Quebec-HSE-ppp211846.qc.sympatico.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1139986956 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1139986971 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1139986973 0 :S0LaREXN!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1139986977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1139988376 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd everybody go? < 1139988380 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohhhhhhhhhh < 1139988415 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea everybody else is having sex right now < 1139988421 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1139988449 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on freenode ;) < 1139988471 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a silly thought. < 1139988475 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode users ... having sex. < 1139988478 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposterous. < 1139988527 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sex for me.. have to wait a bit after a baby is born for things to heal < 1139989769 0 :Paragon_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I AM QUIT HAVE A NICE DAY" < 1139989971 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1139989997 0 :fizzie!i=fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1139990399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1139990400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1139990785 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1139996142 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-61.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1139997666 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1139998398 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot figure out how to handle the input side of this < 1139998491 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really sad.. it seems like it should be as easy as is_the_other_side_the_pipe_blocking_waiting_for_input()? < 1139998521 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly select or poll does this, but it is confusing to the extreme < 1139998835 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, wrong channel.. oh well :P < 1140002353 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1140007117 0 :nooga_!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1140007168 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoi < 1140007185 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1140007188 0 :nooga!i=nooga@xdsl-6552.lubin.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1140007197 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1140007210 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :undestroyable session :D < 1140008173 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL IT! < 1140008181 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waitasec < 1140008223 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE DIE DIE FOUL UNDEAD PROCESS SCUM! < 1140008253 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spend valentines night with a load of other geeks, two of which were givving a talk about Cryptography, and a talk about the Internet. < 1140008274 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus eating birthday cake, as today (15th) is my birthday. < 1140008278 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1140008360 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy birthday! < 1140008549 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one today. < 1140008556 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks) < 1140008721 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol :i0@<:i+i15!",224Happy birthday SimonRC! < 1140008725 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy birthday SimonRC! Happy birthday SimonRC! Happy birthday SimonRC! Happy birthday SimonRC! < 1140008783 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5 ;] < 1140008788 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. whatalag < 1140008829 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, SADOL rocks, even if it isn't a functional lang. (kick, kick) < 1140008853 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pheh, little lambda function will finish it ;p < 1140008881 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think so? < 1140008905 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SADOL has *issues* with HoF, due to the syntax. < 1140008914 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and making function a type < 1140008926 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoF? ;p < 1140008952 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher Order Fucntions. < 1140008955 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1140008971 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sadol 2 will be fuunctional i think < 1140009022 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~x2(... will be :x~2(... and then )x{args} < 1140009036 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - apply < 1140009047 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not bad < 1140009060 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't support currying, though. < 1140009075 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currying is the major area of winnage of Haskell over LISP. < 1140009093 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1140009116 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadol is stupid, i'm working on something better < 1140009141 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Shakell? < 1140009151 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c2f98? < 1140009163 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C -> Funge '98) < 1140009177 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shakell? < 1140009181 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of < 1140009198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a good AI project, program layout algos for Funges. < 1140009209 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shakell is one of mine: < 1140009235 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~sc/Shakell/ < 1140009245 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't do IO yet, though. < 1140009265 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrote most of it in one 4hr hacking session, IIRC. < 1140009276 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too busy now with "real work". < 1140009487 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1140009494 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there some programs in shakell? < 1140009605 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1140009658 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1140009669 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is more-than-slightly inspired by SADOL < 1140009684 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, really nice to hear this < 1140009704 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Unlambda ('" syntax), LISP (cona and nil), and Haskell (pattern-matching). < 1140009720 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1140009721 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, gotta go soon. < 1140009770 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye then < 1140009815 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1140010686 0 :jix!i=jix@L6320.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1140012054 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1140014519 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1140014754 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb nooga < 1140014779 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keymaker wasn't here for 3.5 days... < 1140014782 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jix < 1140016169 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: how to read file lines into aray in rb? < 1140016202 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-130-108.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1140016548 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehe < 1140016600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, in Perl you'd write "@a = ;". < 1140016630 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it has one of the shortest ways to do that. < 1140016705 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1140016728 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy birthday SimonRC < 1140016738 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were older than me! < 1140016749 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seem to be about 3.5 years younger < 1140016893 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: heh, at least someone noticed my absence :) < 1140017485 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1140018892 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1140018894 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1140019346 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1140019937 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1140024358 0 :calamari!n=Kid@150.135.65.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1140024384 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1140024588 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ey < 1140024595 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi keymaker < 1140024619 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, any news about c2bf? < 1140024652 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1140024673 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1140024986 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: Where did you get my DoB from? < 1140024999 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mentioned it in the logs :p < 1140025010 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1140027323 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes. < 1140029645 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host-202-85.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1140030407 0 :ravenEx!n=ravenEx@VPN-224-224.aichyna.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1140030516 0 :tormoz!n=1@h180.n226.iptel.by JOIN :#esoteric < 1140030983 0 :tormoz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1140032816 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin Keymaker < 1140032852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to run a competition soon? < 1140032900 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see, you only have interest in talking to Keymaker :P < 1140032900 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest of us are all just unimportant. < 1140032900 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sob* < 1140032906 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1140033006 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1140033438 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: no .. is there anything new about c2bf? < 1140033445 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :-P < 1140033452 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lot of homework recently :-P < 1140033459 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah /me too < 1140033665 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magnus (the guy who ran the last bf compo) should check and answer his emails.... < 1140033853 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jix, i was at sauna.. < 1140033860 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, dunno < 1140033864 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should < 1140033873 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not really sure at all whether the idea is good or not < 1140033911 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it'd be best to make some harder task such as "write a brainfuck program that calculates and prints out its own md5 hash" < 1140033941 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so an md5 quine? < 1140033946 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1140033955 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully that's impossible, right? :) < 1140033957 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course not, that'd be insane and way too difficult < 1140033979 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of program is possible, though :) < 1140033985 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sure if in brainfuck < 1140033995 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/stuff/selfmd5.py < 1140034020 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although using python's md5 is a bit cheating as i did :p < 1140034084 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1140034179 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, of course it's *possible* in brainfuck but impossible for me to write < 1140034413 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortest numeric input, supporting backspace < 1140034439 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1140034453 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you type 123 (enter), and the cell holds 123 < 1140034467 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? what's about that? :) < 1140034471 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you mean as a task? < 1140034474 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if it was too big it would need to split it < 1140034481 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1140034497 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about that part.. hehe < 1140034499 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what does 'shortest' mean then, in this case? < 1140034509 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortest program < 1140034518 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1140034546 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not the greatest idea, but something that could be used in bfbasic < 1140034565 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one, but it is currently broken < 1140034571 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1140034573 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's better to just debug it :) < 1140034581 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1140034593 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think at the moment how i would write one.. < 1140034597 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool to implement crypto tho < 1140034603 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has that been done in bf? < 1140034615 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about it < 1140034618 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? the program you mentioned? < 1140034624 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented XTEA in linguine < 1140034630 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aes or how it's called < 1140034635 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1140034655 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it data and key, output AES encrypted block < 1140034668 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be one block in, one block out < 1140034675 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that should keep things simple < 1140034691 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll check a wiki entry. < 1140034732 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard < 1140034781 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't compress each block independ from the next afaik.. (key schedule) < 1140034837 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1140034838 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd only need to compress one block < 1140034852 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enough to know it works < 1140034853 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's boring < 1140034870 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well probably it isn't.... (boring) < 1140034892 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, no need to try to make an entrie app out of it < 1140034903 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get into all sorts of issues < 1140034952 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests 128 bit key and 128-bit block size < 1140035200 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's really complicated < 1140035210 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a simpler cipher is better < 1140035226 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just going to say that it's not going to be easy to implement in brainfuck < 1140035261 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hesitate to suggest XTEA, but it is much simpler, with example c code available < 1140035272 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are other simple ones too < 1140035274 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is xtea? < 1140035286 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTEA < 1140035298 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've guessed.. < 1140035499 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rc5 is simple too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC5 < 1140035521 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's patented < 1140035538 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone sue us? :p < 1140035598 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a decss in bf < 1140035608 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1140035634 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i entirely forgot that.. i guess that is an encryption < 1140035654 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and afaik decss is illegal (at least in some countries) < 1140035671 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1140035697 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they sued the guy that broke it or something < 1140035728 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nanocrew.net/ < 1140035862 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowfish_%28cipher%29 < 1140035868 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlowFish.. BF.. hmm :) < 1140035874 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1140035938 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complicated tho < 1140035964 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the article keeps talking about how slow it is, which doesn't sound good for bf < 1140035964 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them are complicated in bf < 1140035969 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1140035983 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*most=all < 1140036405 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1140036427 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the guy who build a computer out of transistors and eeprom chips? < 1140036452 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't gregorr something like that in his university? < 1140036462 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps i remember something that has been never said.. < 1140036490 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's a german page... < 1140036506 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, then it's not the same i guess < 1140036514 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, what about that? < 1140036528 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mycpu.mikrocontroller.net/index2.htm < 1140036532 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :klick on fotos < 1140036535 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ77_and_LZ78_%28algorithms%29 < 1140036536 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click < 1140036545 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to do that too ^^ < 1140036574 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome :D < 1140036578 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lz** without huffman is likely to grow the output (afaik) < 1140036582 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i could do something like that < 1140036623 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'd be able to design such a system but i wouldn't be able to build it < 1140036659 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have no idea where to begin :9 < 1140036666 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about electronics < 1140036685 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know how to build things out of simple digital gates < 1140036699 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, he even made a basic for it :) < 1140036709 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1140036713 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is able to run c64 basic programs < 1140036750 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are simple digital gates?! < 1140036767 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that keyboard enter key sure looks weird :) < 1140036817 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1140036848 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are eurpoean keyboards like that? < 1140036850 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter or return? < 1140036866 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we dont have return < 1140036868 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogant@141.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1140036891 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh your enter is called return here < 1140036901 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that key on the numblock is called enter < 1140036904 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call them both :) < 1140036904 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its either rectangular, or shaped like =" < 1140036913 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i often say enter too < 1140036935 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the same effect (except in some obscure programs) < 1140036935 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not "| < 1140036947 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's shaped "| here < 1140036954 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is your backslash? < 1140036960 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1140036967 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the operating system < 1140036980 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so its not a key < 1140036981 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when using DE layout) < 1140037034 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when using US layout it's the key next to return in the middle line < 1140037054 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get backslash from a key on right to 0 if i hold right alt and press it.. < 1140037096 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some keys are difficult to press, same goes with { } < 1140037142 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those keys are different on the mac (in DE layout) < 1140037152 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1140037155 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have \ on alt-7 (alt isn't used as a command key) < 1140037171 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1140037176 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} on alt 8 and 9 () on shift 8 and 9 < 1140037181 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] on alt 5 and 6 < 1140037192 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's annoying when coding obj-c) < 1140037204 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1140037209 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} are very easy to hit but [] is really wrong on alt-5/6 < 1140037236 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait \ is shift-alt-7 < 1140037249 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the us apple keyboards alt is called option) < 1140037325 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1140037332 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, food time.. < 1140038843 0 :ravenEx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"All non-trivial abstractions, to some degree, are leaky." < 1140042369 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, everything seems to work except that writes to stdout much be flushed < 1140042378 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must even < 1140043212 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I AM QUIT HAVE A NICE DAY" < 1140045619 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?