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01:48:27 <ihope> Note to self: ¡ʇхəʇ uʍop-əpɪsdɳ oʇ pəɹɐdɯoɔ 6uɪɥʇou s˛ʇɐɥʇ
01:52:07 <GregorR> Note to self: Upside-down text is dumb.
01:52:35 <GregorR> Sorry, lemme rephrase that ...
01:52:38 <GregorR> Note to ihope: Upside-down text is dumb.
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02:31:09 <ihope> Heh. From the logs:17:48:27 <ihope> Note to self: ¡ʇхəʇ uÊop-É™pɪsdɳ oʇ pəɹÉdɯoÉ” 6uɪɥʇou s˛ʇÉɥʇ
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02:44:26 <ihope> Whoa... we have a WIKI?
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13:08:19 <jix> moin everyone
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13:11:31 <nooga> have you ever written a interpreter with GC?
13:13:29 <nooga> ah well never mind
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15:38:28 <SimonRC> GregorR: nice going Mr. 9-underscores.
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15:50:38 <ihope> So should I waste time on IRC, waste time playing games, or study Haskell concurrency and stuff?
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20:00:42 <Keymaker> hi all, i made a quine in REVERSE;
20:00:44 <Keymaker> http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/reverse/quine.rev
20:01:01 <Keymaker> haven't been able to run it thought, but it should work
20:01:12 <Keymaker> i tested with smaller value and it worked
20:01:30 <Keymaker> with value i mean the data part
20:03:42 <Keymaker> the code could be half shorter but of course reverse's integer output happens to output a space character just before the number so i had to output it manually
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20:22:57 <Keymaker> and yeah, it'd require something interpreter capable of handling a bit larger integers, since the data part it's constantly using has 866 digits..
20:25:58 <nooga> i bet that jix wrote GC
20:26:06 <jix> wrote what?
20:26:28 <jix> if simple reference counting counts (^^), i did
20:27:14 <jix> they free memory space that isn't used anyomre
20:27:27 <jix> "anyomre".unscramble!
20:27:43 <Keymaker> ok. how does one know what is used and what is not?
20:28:04 <jix> reference conuting (one possibility)
20:28:06 <jix> or mark & sweep
20:28:11 <nooga> hm it amrks new variables and marks those referenced by them
20:28:22 <nooga> walking reference graphs
20:28:28 <nooga> and those unmarked r deleted
20:28:32 <Keymaker> in which language you wrote that?
20:28:34 <jix> reference counting always uses some cpu
20:28:39 <jix> Keymaker: i wrote it in c
20:28:44 <jix> but for a project i never finished
20:28:56 <jix> mark and sweep uses much cpu but only sometines
20:29:22 <Keymaker> i have no idea how something like that can be written :)
20:29:40 <jix> for everything you store you have an variable called ref_count
20:29:41 <nooga> i'm trying to implement it in my core lisp interpreter
20:29:53 <jix> if you use a think you call thing.ref_count++
20:30:05 <jix> and if you don't need it anymore you call thing.ref_count-- und if ref_count is 0 you free it
20:31:04 <jix> oh and if you free it you have to do ref_count-- on all things referenced by thing
20:31:09 <jix> because you free that reference
20:34:59 <nooga> "nara" is contracted "narazie" = "solong" or something
20:35:06 <nooga> "hasta la vista" ;p
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22:00:05 <Keymaker> http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/reverse/quine.rev
22:00:15 <Keymaker> i'm not able to run it but it should work
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22:16:27 <Keymaker> hmm, seems wikipedia servers are expressing difficulties again
22:18:08 <ihope> Programming language...
22:18:48 <ihope> It's not on the wiki yet, so you'll have to wait a bit.
22:22:12 <ihope> But MAYBE it's possible to write useful functions here.
22:27:05 <ihope> I'm starting to think it's not.
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