00:01:18 <bsmntbombdood> I would use public key crypto
00:02:49 <ihope> Just use public key crypto on top of IRC.
00:03:03 <bsmntbombdood> LAME
00:03:07 <ihope> :-P
00:03:55 <bsmntbombdood> and that wouldn't work well
00:04:25 <SimonRC> auth is a tough problem
00:04:32 <bsmntbombdood> you would have to encrypt separatly for each member of the chan
00:04:53 <SimonRC> you have to think about replay attacks and asking-the-server-its-own-question attacks and loads more
00:04:56 <ihope> Oh, so the server isn't trusted?
00:05:15 <bsmntbombdood> Im trying to think of a way to do it with an untrusted server
00:05:22 <ihope> Replay attacks could be eliminated by a bit of challenge-response.
00:05:24 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: that's silly
00:05:40 <bsmntbombdood> why
00:05:42 <SimonRC> you have no proof anyone else on IRC even exists
00:05:45 <SimonRC> :-)
00:06:34 <bsmntbombdood> an irc model wouldn't work
00:08:41 <bsmntbombdood> what's the point of encrypting if you let anyone in
00:09:11 <ihope> There are private channels, you know.
00:09:52 <bsmntbombdood> yes
00:38:01 * SimonRC goes.
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01:17:42 <lament> i HATE writing cover letters.
01:22:17 <ihope> Just write the letter P, then cover it with a coat of paint.
01:22:19 <ihope> Easy.
01:29:22 <_W_> lament, so don't lose your job, silly
01:29:37 <lament> meh
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04:15:40 <calamari> hi
04:16:14 <Arrogant> Hello, calamari!
04:16:32 <calamari> arr
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12:55:08 <SimonRC> lament: I have to agree with you there
13:08:59 <Sgeo> Hm?
13:49:32 <SimonRC> "< lament> i HATE writing cover letters."
13:50:50 <SimonRC> Sgeo: If you were here 24,7,52+71/400 you'd have that in scrollback :-)
13:55:34 <SimonRC> hehe:  dig +short -x $(dig +short www.thepiratebay.org)
14:15:14 <Sgeo> hm?
14:21:46 <Sgeo> Should I post it?
14:23:40 <Sgeo> And how did you find that?
14:37:51 <W_work> it's just the reverse dns of the ip the host resolves to
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20:26:38 <SimonRC> Sgeo: I saw it somewhere, I forget where
20:26:44 <SimonRC> another IRC channel maybe
20:27:01 * SimonRC has a great idea:
20:27:07 <SimonRC> the moving IRC channel
20:27:48 <SimonRC> if you wanted exclude people from a group, you issue each member of the group with the formula that turns the time into the channel name
20:28:00 <SimonRC> then, only those people can follow the channel as everyone moves
20:30:00 <ihope_> Ah, cool idea.
20:39:35 <fizzie> There's the +k channel mode, which could easily be time-varying and people wouldn't need to move all the time. Far more boring that way, I guess.
20:40:46 <ihope_> +k?
20:41:14 <ihope_> Eh, we're talking cryptographically secure here :-)
20:41:56 <fizzie> I don't see why the channel password would be any less secure than the channel _name_.
20:42:57 <fizzie> After all, it's basically a name suffix, since it's just another argument to the JOIN command.
20:43:47 <ihope_> Oh, right, +k is a password.
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