00:07:54 -!- ivan`_ has joined. 00:10:09 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:16:13 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:17:09 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 00:23:17 -!- ivan` has quit (Connection timed out). 00:23:17 -!- ivan`_ has changed nick to ivan`. 00:47:53 -!- punchbag has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 00:58:29 -!- _W_ has joined. 01:02:08 Razor-X: I have no idea what that actually means, but my translator seems to be turning into some type of really disturbing innuendo. 01:02:33 I think the Esolangs wiki is down. 01:02:44 Or not. 01:02:55 * RodgerTheGreat makes the sound of ultimate suffering 01:03:05 well, it's definitely slow. 01:05:41 * pikhq writes itoa in C2BF. . . 01:07:36 Using a bunch of if statements. x_x 01:08:19 hm. 01:09:43 RodgerTheGreat: That mean something like ``strong treatment or help'', hard to explain without context. 01:09:52 ah 01:09:54 I see 01:09:54 The little thing next to it says ``Always be happy!'' :P. 01:10:20 *that* explains the disturbing translation. 01:10:58 reminds me of something a friend of mine showed me: http://shadowarts.shadowarts.org/images/bowjob.png 01:11:06 ^ the above is real 01:12:29 What does that image have to do with what I said? 01:12:45 very little, in the end. 01:13:25 Looks like AJAX magic. 01:13:34 ? 01:13:43 oh, you mean the RPG itself. 01:13:46 Yeah. 01:13:51 I kinda glanced over the captions. 01:14:01 My English is being really rough now, sorry. 01:14:06 ah 01:14:13 ok, nevermind then. 01:14:47 the gist is that it's a rather hilarious mistranslation. 01:15:12 The most hillarious translation of something I've said in Japanese is: 01:15:59 The god way plan was displayed?! Calling obtaining! [IRC-NICK] can eat the sandwich!! Escaping!!!!! 01:16:31 FOR GREAT JUSTICE TAKE OFF EVERY ZIG! 01:17:00 Humans make better Engrish than translators. Native English speakers even. 01:17:43 depends on how much of a sense of humor the programmers have. 01:17:57 No I mean, just in raw translating. 01:18:08 well, yes. 01:18:31 Plus sometimes if the script writers are capable enough, they write program the script using a scripting language the programmers bootstrap. 01:18:43 s/program// 01:18:50 Alert. English dying. 01:19:13 are you a non-native speaker, or did you just fry your brain with japanese recently? 01:19:30 I'm technically non-native and I did the latter. 01:19:43 technically? 01:19:57 It's my best language but not my mother tongue. 01:20:18 So I do kinda fall back on my native language a few times. Not too often. 01:20:25 what is your native language? 01:20:33 Bengali. 01:20:39 oh, neat. 01:23:03 There. I've got itoa.c written using nothing bit ifs and fors. Evil, no? 01:23:26 (note that, since it's for C2BF, itoa() won't work using normal methods) 01:23:29 no variable assignments? how can that possibly be a valid program? 01:23:36 itoa ? Integer to array? 01:23:41 -!- ihope has quit (Connection timed out). 01:24:05 Oh, shit. I misunderstood the whole point of itoa. x_x 01:24:14 I'm a real idiot. 01:24:17 * RodgerTheGreat chuckles 01:24:41 An idiot who's wasting a hell of a lot of time that should be spent on making a LUG presentation for tomorrow. 01:24:48 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 01:25:12 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 01:25:16 I only keep responsibility when I give it to myself. 01:25:51 I volunteered for this presentation. . . 01:25:56 And along the way I still kvetch and complain about self-volunteered chores. 01:26:16 Bah. You don't care enough. I'm slaving at my Japanese novel to get two measely pages per day :D. 01:26:40 Well, I *could* argue that Doug (a self-described old coot) pushed me into it, but. . . 01:27:38 Yer parents give ye quite a lot of freedom lad. 01:28:41 * pikhq doesn't get your point 01:28:49 Yer parents give ye quite a lot of freedom lad. 01:28:49 :D. 01:29:05 That doesn't help when I don't grok what you *mean*. 01:29:15 Your parents give you a lot of freedom :P. 01:29:47 * pikhq goes up one in history (WHY THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING THAT!?!) 01:29:53 * RodgerTheGreat feels fairly out of the loop, and decides to play some asteroids... 01:30:03 Well, you just randomly amble to the LUG. 'Twas a random thought. 01:30:45 I can't complain much about Doug pushing me into it, though; he's giving me a ride. ;) 01:30:57 And your parents trust strangers :P. 01:30:59 heh 01:31:21 I've known him for quite a while. . . 01:31:33 But he must've been a stranger in the first place ;). 01:31:35 Hmm. Although I'm not sure my parents have met him yet. 01:31:45 Yeah. Liberal parents. Heh. 01:32:07 Razor-X: Until you realise I'm supposed to go to sleep at. . . 9:00 pm. 01:32:19 pikhq: Heh. 01:32:28 Well they let you do random things out of the house. Be happy. 01:32:41 Because they want me to actually get out of the house. 01:32:52 And not monitor you? :O 01:33:07 I spend most of my time on the computer, so they're just happy that I'm actually seeing the light of day. ;) 01:33:20 I have to see the light of day with my parents so :D. 01:33:21 I'm the sysadmin. If anyone's going to do monitoring, it's me. 01:33:31 heh- know what you mean. 01:33:45 It's worse being a girl with the man perverted stuff.... 01:34:23 the sad fact is that having two X chromosomes in any tech-related setting will result in you being fawned over by nerds. 01:34:32 Yeah. That too. 01:34:51 * RodgerTheGreat feels a twinge of fawning and beats his head against the wall. 01:34:59 Although it's helpful if you want a nerd. ;p 01:35:18 If you leave Firefox up for more than two days, it eats up all your RAM :(. 01:35:27 Never experienced that. 01:35:33 hm. 01:35:34 How much RAM do you have? 01:35:38 Although I've got a lot of RAM for it to eat. . . 01:35:41 * RodgerTheGreat has 2gb 01:35:41 1G. 01:35:45 256 MB. 01:35:52 * RodgerTheGreat dances 01:35:55 I can't stand Firefox's bloat. I only use it to surf in Japanese. 01:36:08 of course, I only won because my computer is brand new. 01:36:09 When I'm in KDE, I use Konqueror. 01:36:23 Ratpoison for the 永遠. 01:36:27 When I'm in Ratpoison, I use Firefox. 01:36:37 Opera all the way. 01:36:50 I like fluxbox when I'm using a linux distro. 01:36:57 Sorry, I try using free software whenever practical. 01:37:42 I do too. But Firefox is a RAM *hog*. 01:37:52 * RodgerTheGreat recoils from the eye-pain of KDE 01:37:53 Like Java. Only a tad bit better. 01:38:05 ouch 01:39:45 Mmm. Eye-candy. 01:39:58 Although it ain't eye-candy out of the box. . . 01:40:29 KDE? Eye-candy? you can't be serious. 01:40:37 it's nearly as bad as XP! 01:40:50 I run either KDE or Ratpoison. 01:40:58 But Ratpoison is what I really prefer. 01:41:12 RodgerTheGreat: I didn't say it was out-of-the-box eyecandy. . . 01:50:38 -!- RodgerTh1Great has joined. 01:50:54 dang 01:51:15 guess I *can't* switch an ethernet cable fast enough. 01:56:32 Hehehe. 02:03:57 -!- bsmntbombdood has left (?). 02:05:58 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:06:07 -!- GregorR-RandomCo has joined. 02:06:07 -!- GregorR-RandomCo has quit (Dead socket). 02:06:51 -!- RodgerTh1Great has changed nick to RodgerTheGreat. 02:17:11 * pikhq hugs KDE 02:18:05 Mmm. IRCing from within Konqueror. . . 02:22:02 -!- oerjanj has quit ("Leaving"). 03:27:28 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:28:45 * Razor-X hugs Emacs. 03:28:51 IRCing from within Emacs. 03:28:52 :P. 03:29:00 * RodgerTheGreat hugs the finder 03:29:11 Ew. Heathen. 03:29:33 what? It's unix. 03:29:50 Lots of stuff are ``UNIX''. 03:30:20 this is unix with a nice GUI and readily available binaries of software. 03:31:08 This is Unix with a nice GUI and readily available sources of software. 03:31:30 Also, this is Unix which I'm *allowed to share*. 03:35:43 anyway, I fail to see how being a mac user makes me a "heathen". You don't see me parading around here trying to convert people or praising the word of jobs. I love the hardware, and OSX does everything I need in an OS quite elegantly. 03:35:59 This is UNIX without a nice GUI and other things that make me slow and clobber my working speed *and* I can share it with other graphically-handicapped users. 03:36:51 Razor-X: That would be my other session in KDM. ;) 03:37:26 RodgerTheGreat: Except that you can't study it, change it, share it, or necessarily use it for arbitrary purposes. 03:38:36 Before I careen on the floor in tiredness (mmmm... normally 4 hours of sleep is more than adequate. I guess memorizing is taking a toll on me) what distro do y'all use? 03:38:42 Gentoo. 03:38:48 Tiger 03:38:53 You? 03:38:58 Slackware. 03:39:23 http://pplug.org/ I'm presenting, and I don't have a presentation yet. :S 03:43:39 Ubuntu 03:45:13 -!- lament has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:46:24 iirc Gregor uses Debian 03:46:45 I have an FTP server running debian. 03:47:42 and Raven would be RISC OS 03:48:20 I've always wanted to try that. 03:48:58 nobody has said windows yet :) 03:51:10 mtve either uses some ver of windows, or is running mIRC in an emulator 03:51:45 well, I have a virtualmachine instance with '98 on it... 03:51:59 yeah I do too 03:52:06 but I think my trial of parallels expired. 03:52:22 use it to run some old dos progs 03:52:28 ZZT ftw! 03:52:52 ahh, mavent played that game in years.. quite fun tho 03:54:15 ZZT is arguably the greatest thing tim sweeny ever coded. You haven't lived until you've played the classics- Code Red, Nothing Constructive, PoP, Evil sorceror's party... 03:54:32 the main thing I did with my VM was play "Outpost 2", though. 03:55:59 -!- Arrogant has joined. 03:57:06 I used to use it to download songs off walmart.com util they decided to require xp 03:57:14 heh 03:57:37 (sometimes when you buy batteries, etc from walmart you get a free download) 03:58:50 I don't have a wallmart nearby, so I wouldn't know. 04:23:36 -!- Arrogant has quit ("Leaving"). 04:38:53 -!- Arrogant has joined. 04:39:33 I'm gonna get some sleep. see y'all. 04:40:15 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit. 05:39:21 -!- thematrixeatsyou has joined. 05:39:32 teh hello 05:40:23 dude, what happened to the server? 05:46:39 1 minute power nap? :) 05:48:18 nope, definitely longer 05:48:28 "Server not found 05:48:29 05:48:29 05:48:29 05:48:29 05:48:29 05:48:31 05:48:33 05:48:35 05:48:37 Firefox can't find the server at esoteric.voxelperfect.net." 05:48:44 did I get kicked for that? 05:55:58 maybe it'[s just that telecom nz sucks ass 05:56:29 are you able to get onto google? 05:57:49 maybe the dnsses are rooted 05:59:05 i definitely need to do an avg scan 06:34:44 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 06:53:43 -!- cmeme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 06:54:10 -!- cmeme has joined. 07:11:10 -!- thematrixeatsyou has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:24:37 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:29:43 -!- ivan` has quit (" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"). 09:36:04 -!- Arrogant has quit ("Leaving"). 09:42:04 -!- CXI has joined. 13:50:55 -!- ihope has joined. 14:07:28 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 15:40:46 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 15:41:04 'morning 15:41:44 Ello. 15:41:51 hey, ihope. 16:09:39 -!- GregorR-W has joined. 16:10:27 hi 16:10:35 *mutter mutter* mrnin gys howiaffdsszzzzzzzzzzz 16:15:40 Get back in bed, wait to enter a dream, then wake up. ;-) 16:16:00 No bed in my cubicle.' 16:16:41 Oh... right. 16:16:54 http://www.donotputthebaby.com/index.php?s=Cubicle 16:16:57 Blindfold yourself and put on earmuffs? 16:17:31 -!- kipple has joined. 16:38:06 -!- RodgerTh1Great has joined. 16:42:34 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 16:56:57 -!- RodgerTh1Great has changed nick to RodgerTheAFK. 16:57:36 !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]} 16:57:42 * pikhq tries figuring out Glass 16:57:54 . . . And EgoBot isn't here. :'( 16:58:14 Whoo. It's identical to the one on the wiki. :) 17:00:33 -!- EgoBot has joined. 17:11:29 !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]} 17:11:31 :) 17:11:32 OK 17:11:40 ?!? 17:11:42 !glass (M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]} 17:11:44 OK 17:11:49 !glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]} 17:11:52 Hello, World! 17:11:54 Look very carefully at the first character in your code ;) 17:12:02 Ah, shit. 17:12:07 !glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hello, World!"(_o)o.?]} 17:12:10 Hello, World! 17:12:27 Because my interpreter is lame, OK == "I didn't find an M class here" :P 17:12:39 You should make it say WTF instead. 17:12:48 Well, it's OK to not have an M class. 17:12:55 Because it keeps a cache of every class it's ever been fed. 17:13:06 !glass {M[m(_d)(Debug)!(_d)(cl).?]} 17:13:08 A Arr Arre BF C Debug Emote F Fib Hsh Hshe I JixMath L LameQuine M O Rand S Tape TapeItem URLs V 17:13:20 !glass 17:13:22 OK 17:13:25 !glass OK 17:13:28 OK 17:13:30 Yay, a quine! 17:13:38 That's not a quine, it's only repro on EgoBot. 17:14:13 !glass {M[m(_m)M!(_m)M.?]} 17:14:21 God I hate you. 17:14:30 Oh, wait. 17:14:35 I couldn't resist. I'm sorry. 17:14:36 Never mind, that didn't call any real functions :P 17:14:55 !ps 17:14:58 3 pikhq: ps 17:15:50 !cat in the hat! 17:15:54 in the hat! 17:16:17 !EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X> 17:16:20 doesn't like recursively called functions X> 17:16:23 !EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X> 17:16:26 * EgoBot doesn't like recursively called functions X> 17:16:29 Always fails the first time :P 17:18:22 !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!<1>/,(_i)i.?(_o)o.?,<1>\ 17:18:24 OK 17:18:29 Shit. 17:18:33 !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!<1>/,(_i)i.?(_o)o.?,<1>\]} 17:18:36 !ps 17:18:38 3 pikhq: ps 17:18:51 Bu. . .bu. . . 17:19:03 Argh. x_x 17:19:32 Your conditional was bad. 17:19:41 /\ loops on a condition, you didn't provide one. 17:19:44 !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)i.?(_o)o.?\]} 17:19:48 I noticed. 17:19:50 !ps 17:19:52 3 pikhq: ps 17:20:00 Hm, that's a bit mysterious :P 17:20:19 Oh, it's I.l you want (that's a lowercase L) 17:20:22 As in, input line. 17:20:25 Ah. 17:20:33 !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)l.?(_o)o.?\]} 17:20:36 !ps 17:20:38 3 pikhq: glass 17:20:40 4 pikhq: ps 17:20:45 !i 3 Test!\n 17:20:48 Test! 17:20:55 :) 17:21:28 !i 3 Well, I've got cat in Glass. . . I think this might be a bit more robust then the Brainfuck version. . .\n 17:21:30 Well, I've got cat in Glass. . . I think this might be a bit more robust then the Brainfuck version. . . 17:21:53 Possible, but unlikely :P 17:22:04 Since I wrote the BF interpreter EgoBot uses ;) 17:22:09 !eof 3 17:22:29 21101 egobot 35 10 2684 1028 816 R 93.0 0.2 0:12.89 glass 17:22:30 I think the issue is more with EgoBot's IRC binding. 17:22:36 That 93.0, that's the % CPU use. 17:22:54 !i 3 Jebus\nThats a lot\nof\nCPU time.\n 17:23:15 !show 3 17:23:16 This is where I say, "Whoever said hyperthreading doesn't produce any noticeable effects can go suck a horse, I can still use my system." 17:23:28 pikhq: Dood, you EOF'd it, why do you think that'll work? 17:23:33 !ps 17:23:36 3 GregorR-W: ps 17:23:57 GregorR-W: Because my code was supposedly set up as while(1), not while(no_eof). 17:24:19 pikhq: But once you've EOF'd it, you're not going to get any more data to it :P 17:24:29 !ps d 17:24:32 1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload 17:24:34 2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload 17:24:36 !eof closes the outgoing pipe. 17:24:36 3 pikhq: ps 17:24:40 I killed it manually, btw. 17:24:44 Ah. 17:26:38 {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_temp)(_i)l.?=*(_o)o.?\]} Will that make it die on EOF? 17:26:54 I believe you need I.eof 17:26:56 Or maybe I.e 17:27:00 Don't remember what I called that :P 17:31:25 !glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_a)A!(_temp)<1>=/(_temp)(_i)l.?(_temp)(_i)e.=(_temp)(1)(_a)e./(_temp)(_temp)(0)=\(_a)(_o)o.?\]} 17:31:33 !i 3 Hoping. . .\n 17:31:36 _a 17:31:41 !kill 3 17:31:42 Process 3 killed. 17:32:04 -!- lindi- has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 17:46:55 -!- lindi- has joined. 18:12:13 -!- lament has joined. 18:12:16 ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 18:15:07 g? 18:15:18 mani padme hum 18:22:33 Sorry, I don't speak French. 18:22:42 nor should you. 18:22:44 or anyone. 18:22:48 Ouch. 18:32:35 -!- ivan` has joined. 18:34:06 * pikhq takes a break from his presentation. . . 19:06:53 -!- lament has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:40:18 * pikhq plays with IRP. . . 19:40:49 Please, someone output a program which translates Brainfuck code to its Malbolge equivalent. 19:42:04 When you ask me to jump, I'll say ... 19:42:07 What language? 19:44:24 Your choice. 19:44:36 -!- fuse has joined. 19:45:40 BTW, I've proven IRP Turing-complete. 19:45:50 IRP#eosteric, at least, supports the EgoBot command set. 19:45:55 So, one simply does: 19:46:16 *buzz*, wrong. 19:46:24 Commands have to be in polite English command form. 19:46:34 Shit. 19:46:41 Simpler method. 19:47:36 "Would someone please output '!bf $code', and then '!ps', and do '!i $number_of_process $input'?" 19:47:50 lol 19:51:14 -!- _W_ has left (?). 19:51:35 Hmm. . . 19:51:46 * pikhq is working on his presentation for the LUG right now. . . 19:51:57 What esoteric languages should I put in besides Brainfuck? 19:52:28 Befunge, maybe an honorable mention for BitChanger (merely because it's Turing complete and BF-like but with a smaller command set) 19:52:32 And of course Glass :P 19:52:36 unlambda 19:52:47 Yeah, yeah. 19:52:49 GregorR-W: Glass it is! 19:52:58 It'd be good to put a functional one in. 19:53:06 e.g. unlambda 19:53:15 Or Lazy-K 20:03:58 *sigh* 20:04:10 Or I could just bullshit about Brainfuck for a couple of hours. :p 20:04:46 2L, FYB, ORK and Glass. What else could you possibly need? :P 20:05:39 0L, of course. 20:05:46 The language with only one instruction. 20:06:04 is that like OISC? 20:06:30 Yeah, but the one instruction has no parameters or anything. 20:43:41 -!- tgwizard has joined. 21:04:03 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 21:29:11 -!- fuse has quit ("foo"). 21:48:24 -!- lindi- has quit (Read error: 148 (No route to host)). 21:48:57 Got a presentation done. Whoo. 21:50:37 -!- Arrogant has joined. 22:49:00 -!- tgwizard has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:59:01 -!- Arrogant has quit ("Leaving"). 23:07:16 -!- [1]kipple has joined. 23:07:58 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 23:08:18 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 23:11:02 -!- kipple has quit (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 23:11:02 -!- [1]kipple has changed nick to kipple. 23:58:45 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).