< 1157760200 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157760334 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, mplayer is my friend.. encoded an mp3 for /dev/dsp :) < 1157760374 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading that /dev/audio uses 1 bit per sample, trying that :) < 1157760627 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1157760637 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1157760649 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compresses 12-16 bit into 8 bit (logarithmic) < 1157760661 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might sound better, gotta find the right combination of settings < 1157760684 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually.. hmm I could do 1 bit.. 0 or 255 to dsp :P < 1157760696 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this should sound awful! < 1157760718 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if audio can be dithered like image data < 1157762109 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dither white noise with pink noise to get light pink noise? < 1157762362 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: does egobf read the entire program before running it? < 1157762397 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Yes. It parses it into an intermediate representation. < 1157762402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1157762411 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this 300mb program is probably a tad too large < 1157762429 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it failing or just taking a long time? < 1157762431 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't fail ... < 1157762432 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long time < 1157762445 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yeah, that 300MB program is probably a tad too large ;) < 1157762467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try using egobfc. < 1157762760 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, got it :) < 1157762767 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a bug in my conversion program < 1157762778 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much smaller files now, can use egobfi8 < 1157762790 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1157762794 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just played 15 seconds of audio < 1157762801 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha < 1157762807 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressed to a mere...100MB? < 1157762810 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :287076 < 1157762812 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytes < 1157762817 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1157762832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just a really lame +++++.-----. algorithm < 1157762851 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be much smaller < 1157762855 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but since it's audio, and forming a wave, that algorithm is actually fairly OK. < 1157762909 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is the magical incantation for mplayer: < 1157762913 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer filename.mp3 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=output.dsp -srate 8000 -af-adv force=1 -af channels=1,format=u8 < 1157762939 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1157762970 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can convert output.dsp to a bf program and enjoy < 1157762979 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio out to raw wave format with no header into the file output.dsp at the rate 8kHz with some weird feature forced, one channel, uncompressed 8-bit < 1157763016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. That's the default setup for /dev/dsp. < 1157763036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything more advanced requires more capabilities than Brainfuck has. < 1157763052 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... umm, no? < 1157763061 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is Turing Complete. < 1157763080 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean if you want to change what format /dev/dsp is using before writing to it? < 1157763100 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the weird feature is to set highest quality vs fast output < 1157763113 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u8 = unsigned 80bit < 1157763116 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-bit < 1157763124 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157763151 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got what you said about the wave and algorithm.. good point :) < 1157763193 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looking at the output proves you correct.. it's pretty decent < 1157763196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Care to explain using from BF? :p < 1157763224 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So long as you only want printf and scanf :P < 1157763249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no. . . < 1157763263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fopen. < 1157763265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1157763630 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this 6m 19s song is 22,315,587 bytes of bf < 1157763900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question I have is how much smaller it would be in BFZ. < 1157763964 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any interpreters run bfz? < 1157763994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfz.tar.gz < 1157764005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; it's a compression program for Brainfuck. . . < 1157764024 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good idea tho < 1157764028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the above tarball contains my BFM implementation, and not the one I submitted to the Esolang contest) < 1157764086 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uploading a test track :) < 1157764114 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be about 3 more minutes < 1157764152 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, never mind, time seems to keep climbing < 1157764174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My BFM implementation should be much more concise once I get around to creating a program to do the shortest 2-cell versions of various constants. . . < 1157764177 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :image streaming bf audio.. hehe < 1157764182 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine rather < 1157764311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Speaking of BFM, I should probably try and clean that up some more. < 1157764329 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe get a simple installation system for it. < 1157764357 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/Moby - Go.bf < 1157764426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157764436 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it =) < 1157764444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got ourselves a new audio standard! < 1157764447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is listening to it
< 1157764761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157764918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFZ'ing it. . . < 1157764921 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sopmeone can figure out the mplayer settings for mulaw, then it might sound better < 1157764942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mulaw? < 1157764946 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu-law < 1157764950 0 :Hierofant!i=Iron_Mon@24-176-80-241.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157764951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157764953 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what /dev/audio uses < 1157764955 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo? Law! < 1157764987 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you probably wouldn't enjoy that song since you like country or whatever :) < 1157764996 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF?! < 1157765000 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- does NOT like country < 1157765014 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh what do you like < 1157765047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moby.bfz is 4.9M. < 1157765053 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many things older than a hundred years or so. < 1157765170 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is 1,094,217 bytes bz2'd < 1157765173 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W likes the letters E and T. < 1157765178 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uses them all the time. < 1157765241 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1157765244 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh kay. < 1157765255 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1157765267 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO! I didn't mean to kill him! < 1157765280 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: what did that mean anyhow? :) < 1157765304 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR uses E and T a lot, doesn't he? < 1157765307 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't everybody? < 1157765436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Yes. . . But BFZ requires only a Brainfuck interpreter to compress and decompress. < 1157765458 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you could decompress bz2 with a bf program < 1157765478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do *you* want to be the one to write that? < 1157765493 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'llk leave it as an exercise for the reader < 1157765511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFZ, on the other hand, is already written in Brainfuck. < 1157765559 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems strange that the result is so large < 1157765573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's RLE'ing +, -, < and >. < 1157765583 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only 8 symbols, so it should be able to be compressed to 3/8 size < 1157765599 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^2=8 < 1157765620 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :serr 2^3 = 8 < 1157765621 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1157765623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I just didn't bother. . . < 1157765635 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with this, ther are only 3 symbols < 1157765637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format was made for the Esolangs contest. < 1157765646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted something *simple* to write. ;) < 1157765651 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a certain structure at that < 1157765677 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if we're doing unltimate compression or whatever, I could write a bf program that duplicates my audio2bf.c prog < 1157765696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to give me the source to that? < 1157765701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to give it a shot. ;) < 1157765727 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, one min < 1157765739 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be trivial to implement this in bf < 1157765744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'll do it in BFM, because I'm a little bit lazy ATM. < 1157765747 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why I didn't think of doing it hehe < 1157765755 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfm won't really help hehe < 1157765775 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1157765775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, BFM is Brainfuck + variables + macros, so it's not much higher level. ;) < 1157765900 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/audio2bf.c < 1157765949 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a quick hack, as you can tell < 1157765972 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go do homework, have fun! < 1157765976 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157766277 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say < 1157766283 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered esoteric languages < 1157766294 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my eyelashes are saturated < 1157766375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157766399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up on implementing greater than and less than. :p < 1157766621 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eyelashes? < 1157766625 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturated? < 1157766640 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1157766648 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION saturates pikhq's eyebrows
< 1157766798 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sends Chef to #cooking
< 1157766844 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. Found it. < 1157767492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I surrender. < 1157767541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I had previously written the needed macros. < 1157768909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still loves how he wrote BFM. . .
< 1157768929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A parser? Who needs to write that? Tcl does the job for me. :p < 1157768940 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats bhm < 1157768959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM. < 1157768965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A macro system for Brainfuck. < 1157768992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.tar.bz2 Current tarball. < 1157768996 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my h==f macro wasnt installed < 1157769016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make another tarball soon as I bother cleaning up my current source tree. < 1157769018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1157769033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro h {char} {f char}? :p < 1157769187 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I've not tested all of the macros in stdlib, so I can make no guarantee about their correctness. . . < 1157771234 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157772941 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how non-kipple drives out kipple? < 1157772964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157774840 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157774922 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157774925 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157774967 0 :Razor-X`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Razor-X < 1157774967 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157775027 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157775033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: You're back, I think. < 1157775036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Where can I grab the most recent tarball of RawIRC? < 1157775040 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeh. I am. < 1157775091 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157775158 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lubs BFM some more
< 1157775239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, I now have a proper compression program for my contest entry. . . < 1157775302 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157775355 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads fuckfuck source, laughs like 12 year old
< 1157775370 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775379 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157775385 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn... what's up with my IRC connection? < 1157775584 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157776066 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: http://www.codu.org/rawirc.c < 1157776070 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No tarball, just a single C file. < 1157776214 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157776230 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to write an Ncurses port, mmmkay? < 1157776238 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And try to get it to compile on Windows too. < 1157777600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEEW. < 1157777804 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should compile on Windows as-is. < 1157777805 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it won't work. < 1157777816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ncurses? What a waste. < 1157778013 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157778968 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157778990 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@241.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157779861 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157780145 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157783634 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-94.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157784131 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157784131 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot read elfstream /home/gregor/esoteric/egobot/egobot/daemons/.EgoBot < 1157784207 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157784214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 GregorR: ps < 1157784214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157784221 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-X < 1157784248 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!daemon EgoBot +[.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>+++<<<-]>-.++.>----.<++++++.++++++.-.>>-.[-]<[-]<[-]<[-]+>+[>,[>+>+<<-]>>---------->+<[>-<[-]]>[<<<<->>>>.-]<[-]<.[-]<<]<] < 1157784250 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1157784254 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!daemon EgoBot bf +[.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>+++<<<-]>-.++.>----.<++++++.++++++.-.>>-.[-]<[-]<[-]<[-]+>+[>,[>+>+<<-]>>---------->+<[>-<[-]]>[<<<<->>>>.-]<[-]<.[-]<<]<] < 1157784257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157784262 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 GregorR: daemon EgoBot bf < 1157784266 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157784270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot eats brains. < 1157784270 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 GregorR: ps < 1157784273 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eats brains.
< 1157784328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat .sniarb stea toBogE! < 1157784334 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.sniarb stea toBogE! < 1157784855 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157785829 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheZZzzz < 1157788799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157788800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157788826 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157788850 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how'd it go? < 1157790146 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Good job being standardized *cough* assuming 80 columns *cough*. < 1157790312 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Nevermind. < 1157790425 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I'll be doing similar things to you. Using Ncurses doesen't mean using panels, because I don't think Chicken has any bindings for things like termios.h and signal.h. < 1157790547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, being standardized. OH WAIT < 1157790551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ACTUALLY WAS < 1157790555 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGWINCH < 1157790564 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall -WINCH Razor-X < 1157790618 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157790770 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157790784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157794556 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157797122 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157797767 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157798144 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157798259 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157800071 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-5.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157801999 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157805051 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157808054 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157811257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawns
< 1157811346 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157815206 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157815458 0 :sparr_!i=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1157817597 0 :RodgerTheZZzzz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1157821675 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-119.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157821970 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157822497 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"brb" < 1157824813 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157825979 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157826892 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-17.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157827122 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1157827290 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157828238 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1157828541 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo no citka" < 1157830054 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1157830065 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai2u < 1157830153 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't quite cracked /dev/audio yet.. but none of the mulaw recordings seem to work on it < 1157830184 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /dev/dsp recordings play, but with a staticky sound < 1157830361 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I spoke too son.. just found something < 1157830364 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon < 1157830374 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/ulaw.h < 1157830412 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like I gain anything by using ulaw < 1157830435 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just converts it to dsp < 1157830445 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess /dev/dsp is really superior < 1157830523 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only one could figure out how to do higher bit rates/sampling rates from /dev/dsp. < 1157830569 0 :Hierofant!i=Iron_Mon@71-87-238-046.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157831165 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157831355 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!learn ideas Rings of protection from shapechangers should be immune to being polymorphed < 1157831358 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1157831362 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1157831367 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong syntax AND wrong channel < 1157831372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. . . < 1157831393 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a winner. < 1157831876 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I oughta actually write that parody generator thing. < 1157831942 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I've never used Ncurses in a situation where input from another source gets printed on the screen without the user's consent. < 1157831962 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :嫌なことわね。 < 1157831970 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157832001 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :嫌なことわね? < 1157832036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda equivalent to ``This sucks'' or something like that. < 1157832082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters about being the only BFM user. . .
< 1157832106 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points and laughs
< 1157832123 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should say 嫌なことわね？ or something like that. < 1157832153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo {go;fuck;yourself} < 1157832158 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to distinguish between ? and ？ be my guest :P. < 1157832195 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo excecutes these actions in order: Go (to unspecified location), F*ck (something unspecified), yourself (ERR). < 1157832225 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1157832247 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just making the point that you shouldn't have seperated the actions via semicolons. < 1157832317 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* he < 1157832337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157832367 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should rewrite that, though. < 1157832374 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add true 1 < 1157832380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true { < 1157832384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fuck yourself < 1157832385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157832397 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we are. < 1157832416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In psuedo-BFM. Whee. . . < 1157832512 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true { kick pikhq } < 1157832538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still in my loop. :p < 1157832587 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C < 1157832608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you've killed the whole program. Including your bit. . . < 1157832615 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :small price to pay < 1157832622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true {idiot} < 1157832653 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: while: invalid syntax < 1157832813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using bash. < 1157832823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's compiled into Brainfuck. < 1157832835 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Now you've killed the whole program. Including your bit. . . < 1157832844 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix (goFuckYourself >>) < 1157832852 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, eh? < 1157832900 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd watch all of your escapades with self-sex, but I have a date with a manpage :P. < 1157832913 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"man date" ? < 1157832943 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. Just muckin' with Ncurses routines. < 1157833713 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157833859 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make a language where all infinite loops are undetectable. < 1157833887 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they keep going until your computer runs out of memory? < 1157833907 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about one that drops into an infinite loop at random points? ;-) < 1157833917 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: yep. < 1157834254 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll call it Hyperfuck. < 1157834377 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it "onoz" < 1157834386 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Selffuck? < 1157834397 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Thyselffuck? < 1157834407 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punch Thyself < 1157834411 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since everyone loves using the word f*ck so much :P. < 1157834437 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157834461 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loop programs would exist in the language, but it'd be impossible to tell which ones they are. < 1157834473 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no "the following is an infinite loop:". < 1157834543 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like +[+] ? < 1157834565 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be an infinite loop. < 1157834575 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a language called Fandango that randomly scribbles over memory with every instruction? < 1157834679 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''Fandango''' is an esolang by GreyKnight. Every instruction is a single character, and every printable ASCII character is an instruction. All instructions randomize memory. < 1157834714 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157834716 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun times < 1157834726 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157834745 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''Undefined''' is an esolang by [[User:Ihope127]]. All programs have undefined behavior. < 1157834799 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[] < 1157834835 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be an infinite loop either. < 1157835035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Why wouldn't that be an infinite loop? < 1157835053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it risks stopping at the heat death of the universe? < 1157835100 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1157835151 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. Since it's possible to prove that executing [] is an infinite loop, it's simply skipped. < 1157835745 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157836199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be against the Brainfuck spec. < 1157836331 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say this was BF. < 1157836341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157836363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. < 1157836370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ /might/ be an infinite loop. < 1157836374 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it might not be. :p < 1157836499 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ isn't an infinite loop :-) < 1157836522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what *is* an infinite loop? < 1157836551 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[] _might_ be. < 1157836563 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, [] is never an infinite loop. < 1157836578 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not? < 1157836583 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loops exist, but all of them are undetectable. < 1157836630 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] while the cell is zero does nothing, and [] while the cell is not zero is skipped because if it were executed, it would cause an infinite loop. < 1157836657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Give an example of an infinite loop. < 1157836669 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't. < 1157836677 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All infinite loops are undetectable. < 1157836682 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you're not Turing complete; sorry. < 1157836686 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157836692 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say they didn't exist. < 1157836720 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that one can't make an algorithm using one that is sure to work. < 1157836840 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1157836844 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157836862 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[><] Is an infinite loop. < 1157836872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in his language. < 1157836873 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[><] is the same as []. < 1157836889 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But [><] looks like an angry face... thus.. much cooler < 1157836900 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1157836918 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only things you can say here are "it isn't an infinite loop" and "as far as I know, it might be an infinite loop". < 1157836945 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157836956 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I surrender. < 1157837002 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1157837016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not writing audio2brainfuck.b < 1157837023 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1157837028 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaazy < 1157837030 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1157837032 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1157837033 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would audio2brainfuck.b do? < 1157837033 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show you the ultra-compressed version right now then :) < 1157837034 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1157837050 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[.] < 1157837052 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157837054 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: bf < 1157837057 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 CakeProphet: ps < 1157837059 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 lol < 1157837063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[,.[-]+] < 1157837071 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ ultra-compressed version ;) < 1157837112 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION divides a deck of cards into three equal parts
< 1157837114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I highly doubt that would make valid Brainfuck code from a raw PCM file. . . < 1157837142 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157837143 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: bf < 1157837144 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hehe is that your goal < 1157837145 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 CakeProphet: ps < 1157837148 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1157837159 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem that we didn't really discuss yesterday: eof < 1157837164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be audio2brainfuck.b. . . < 1157837180 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the name < 1157837184 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :audio files use 0-255 so there is no way to be 100% certain you are at eof < 1157837207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use a bigger cell." < 1157837237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, God. . . < 1157837241 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't audio2brainfuck just text2brainfuck applied to different kinds of bytes? < 1157837267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Yeah. . . < 1157837275 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a fashion < 1157837280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still surrender. < 1157837282 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipses don't include spaces, btw < 1157837315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they do. We've argued about it before. -_-' < 1157837315 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@pikhq) < 1157837338 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipses have spaces? < 1157837345 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1157837351 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call ..., then? < 1157837469 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Chicago MoS recommends "..." inside a sentence and ". . ." for omissions between sentences < 1157837492 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157837494 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1157837501 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . looks stupid... therefore ... is correct. < 1157837507 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win. < 1157837521 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxford use "..." < 1157837528 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bringhurst uses "..." < 1157837544 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluebook uses " . . ." < 1157837571 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluebook can go to hell. < 1157837573 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157837604 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the standard legal citation style in the US < 1157837606 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I agree with the Chicago guys, then. < 1157837622 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicago MoS just sort of makes sense most of the time. < 1157837632 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about official silly grammar crap though.. so. < 1157837648 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: well, the spaced-ellipsis is only for omissions *between* sentences < 1157837656 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1157837665 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^--- is Chicago-style < 1157837695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. I'll use the appropriate HTML entity from now on. < 1157837725 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, apparently Chicago recommends either that distinction-making approach *or* using "..." globally. < 1157837856 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Chicago
< 1157837878 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have big arms < 1157837901 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1157838319 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157838360 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :". . ." might look more sensible with a variable-width font. < 1157838369 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a fixed-width font it's utterly ugley. < 1157838436 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1157838450 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a variable-width font, and I still find "..." nicer... < 1157838485 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :choose your direction: ⋮⋯⋰⋱ < 1157838503 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't look right⋯ < 1157838518 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157838524 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are mathematical ellipses < 1157838530 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157838753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has official grammar? < 1157838753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cough* *Splutter* *Choke* *Die* < 1157838808 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are authorities < 1157838816 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they disagree with each other, naturally < 1157839809 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . does look pretty awful on a fixed width font. < 1157841547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: English has a few people saying "This is the most holy way to do it!", and the rest of the world ignoring them. ;) < 1157841712 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't no problem < 1157841778 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My keyboard is set to Spanish. < 1157841794 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it{s better than this US'international stuff. < 1157841806 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everything{s in a different place. < 1157841816 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see the problems: 1) ain't 2) double negative 3) no subject 4) sentence isn't capitalized 5) no period 6) contraction < 1157841819 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157841828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else? < 1157841870 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contractions are improper grammar? < 1157841913 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'd use contractions wherever possible. < 1157841925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7) There is no real authority on what English grammar is, so it is, in effect, defined by what people who speak English use. < 1157841945 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying stuff like "contractions're" and... well, yeah. < 1157841975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contractions're becoming part of English grammer. < 1157842003 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And double negatives aren't ungrammatical. < 1157842008 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: having said that, there are occasions when people deserve to be stabbed in the face < 1157842032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Because they're not even using what the speakers of the language use, of course. < 1157842036 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you can invent a way to do that over the internet, you'll be rich ;) < 1157842080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Create the RFC for the Violence Over IP protocol. < 1157842096 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Machine < 1157843677 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157843795 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey hey... < 1157843803 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, um. < 1157843804 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157843805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey hey... < 1157843855 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You mean, like American measurement? < 1157843885 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Though I hear the UK is even worse off. < 1157844182 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157844183 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is trying to get everything over to metric < 1157844202 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think roadsigns are about the last thing to go < 1157844715 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157845541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Hmm? < 1157845971 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157846176 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"