< 1158365271 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158365532 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't seem to commit to the eso files archive X_X < 1158365624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1158365642 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R_R < 1158365713 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D_D < 1158365741 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y_Y < 1158365752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N_N < 1158365770 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q_Q < 1158366066 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/_/ < 1158366096 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?_? < 1158366147 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÿ_ÿ < 1158366188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø_ø < 1158366190 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¤_¤ < 1158366220 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why there is a ¤ key on my keyboard layout < 1158366239 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it where $ is supposed to be? < 1158366287 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I press Alt Gr+# (which, on a UK keyboard, is next to ') -- this is hungarian 101-key layout < 1158366321 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1158366338 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds that layout to his repertoire or whatever they're called < 1158366375 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of typing :o, I can type ö < 1158366436 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lahey-space container is doing my head in :( < 1158366439 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o ö o: < 1158366453 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't make an upside-down ö :P < 1158366473 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ < 1158366473 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, itás in Hungarian. < 1158366482 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iáll figure out how to make apostrophes later. < 1158366487 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift+1 for apostrophe. < 1158366504 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun trying to type XML. < 1158366514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there it is. < 1158366528 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< isn't in a handy place, eh :P < 1158366550 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158366574 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between > and >? < 1158366590 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proably 0 < 1158366604 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And between \ and \? < 1158366689 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. The best bit is the cunning switch between z and y, which I keep failing. And they moved 0 to the left of 1. < 1158366719 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Why would they switch z and y >_> < 1158366758 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My std::map has duplicate keys, my comparison function works, there must a really dumb error here somewhere < 1158366785 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I typo'ed it to multimap... < 1158366817 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-me attempts to switch back to the US layout < 1158366822 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-me fails < 1158366827 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha < 1158366838 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emoticons are all different ÉüÖ < 1158366849 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Ü/ < 1158366856 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ü < 1158366859 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best emoticon < 1158366873 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries again and succeeds < 1158366883 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ű? < 1158366913 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Θ < 1158367767 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how the flaming bovine interpreter ever worked < 1158367796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flaming bovine interpreter? < 1158367805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a language called "flaming bovine"? < 1158367833 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a befunge-98 interpreter, but it's method of partitioning 2d space didn't work when I tried it < 1158367902 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder what the cheapest, heaviest material you can get to fit in an envelope is .. < 1158367929 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make responses to credit card offers with "no" checked and a ten pound block of iron. < 1158367948 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercury has the advantage that it's poisonous < 1158367967 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't want to be accused of trying to poison anybody. < 1158367976 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to make them foot the bill on something ridiculous. < 1158367994 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try sending 33 cents back with it, then say it was a mistake and ask for it back < 1158368009 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quoting bash directly :P < 1158368024 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That /inspired/ my block of iron. < 1158368039 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :) < 1158368115 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iridium? < 1158368217 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia, Iridium is rare on Earth. < 1158368269 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cheap then. < 1158368342 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1158368373 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bismuth. < 1158368381 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$7.7/kg < 1158368508 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins buying Bismuth :P < 1158368713 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a bismuth crystal now: http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/23/c7/ba_1.JPG < 1158368750 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, that rocks. < 1158368757 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be mailing them that ;) < 1158368762 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd mail them crap Bismuth. < 1158370179 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGWEEKEND)" < 1158370831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. . . < 1158370851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the did my copy of _The End of Eternity_ disappear to? < 1158370860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been itching to reread that for years now. < 1158370862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1158372207 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158374569 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... How long does QT4 take to build? < 1158374617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 or 2 hours on my box. < 1158374632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2 hrs. 10 mins. and going for me. < 1158374640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1158374641 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it b0rked up last time. < 1158374675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be a bit off on my estimate. < 1158374702 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. Annoying. < 1158374708 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to think, I'm doing this all for GNU Classpath. < 1158374834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also gets pulled in as a dependency for Compiz. . . < 1158374849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why; Compiz uses GTK. < 1158374881 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158374885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Classpath uses Qt? < 1158374907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to the GNU Image Manipulation Program Toolkit? < 1158374919 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classpath needs either GTK 2.6 or QT4 for AWT support. < 1158374954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I assume you don't want GTK? < 1158374957 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout Swing? :) < 1158374977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Can't blame you, though. GTK is some fugly kludge. ;) < 1158374981 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWT and Swing. < 1158374994 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want GTK because GTK needs to be 2.6. < 1158375005 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what a tragedy ... < 1158375008 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to update to GTK 2.6, I need to mess with my glib and a whole bunch of other useless things. < 1158375019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Or just use emerge. < 1158375023 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or just install it outside of /usr < 1158375052 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't have the correct depends for GTK 2.6 is the issue, I think. < 1158375057 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk+ -> pango, atk. pango -> glib, cairo. atk -> glib. glib -> libc < 1158375068 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: glib, atk, cairo, pango, gtk+ < 1158375089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would just be taken care of if you would use Gentoo instead of Slackware. < 1158375099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distro wars are not allowed. < 1158375103 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158375110 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq loves his holy setup. < 1158375116 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially not battling between the two worst Distros. < 1158375117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1158375144 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If QT4 fails to compile, I will get very angry. < 1158375153 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Prepare to be angry. < 1158375218 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Thank you :P. < 1158375388 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTUALLY, to be perfectly fair, Qt4 is a fairly nice build, given its bredth. < 1158375436 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just shudder and think about the amount of time put into coding that behemoth. < 1158375537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Qt is architecturally very, very nice. < 1158375541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huge, yes. . . < 1158375553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's really well-designed. One needn't shudder. < 1158375557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK, on the other hand. . . < 1158375569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOES OBJECT ORIENTATION ON C, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! < 1158375571 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like GTK because it's a lot slower than QT, in my experience. < 1158375580 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ does object orientation on C :P. < 1158375591 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so does Java, to be fair. < 1158375601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ does it by making a (slightly different) language. < 1158375614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK does it in a huge behemoth of a library (glib). < 1158375629 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least they didn't use ObjC. < 1158375633 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be happy. < 1158375658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GObject Pain. Agony. Sorrow. < 1158375666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Malbolge for C. < 1158375669 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GObject is more fun than ObjC. < 1158375687 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ObjC looks like someone cast Unholy Merger on Smalltalk and C. < 1158375756 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE tell me you invented that "spell name"? < 1158375763 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I did. < 1158375768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whew* < 1158375771 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1158375806 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, I'm happy with structs. < 1158375829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GObject looks like someone mixed Malbolge, C, Brainfuck, and medieval torture devices. < 1158375863 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use tiny-clos in Chicken too, but (define-structure) is fine enough for me. < 1158375942 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of ruby somewhat. < 1158375954 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see why Java had to do away with the if (blah) { ... } syntax and instead if (blah != null) { ... }. More ``clean'', huh? Maybe you should remove ternary if-statements then. < 1158376020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Java did *that*?!? < 1158376021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF? < 1158376036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Supposedly more ``clean'', and yet they support a ? b : c < 1158376037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear, I'm going to go and fuckin' kill some Java engineers. < 1158376044 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did C#, didn't it? < 1158376048 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did it? < 1158376053 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their references don't resolve to bool. It's sort of ridiculous, as it's not actually confusing the other way. < 1158376068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl, an admittedly high-level language, doesn't do anything like that. . . < 1158376072 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's why. < 1158376077 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a bool and an int have nothing in common. < 1158376084 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is *stupid*, but even still. < 1158376166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl has a procedure "if". One of it's arguments is a Tcl expression (evaluated by expr). This is pretty much just a superset of such C expressions as a ? b : c, a!=c, etc. . . < 1158376179 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sane. Clean. Highlevel. < 1158376191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C got it right there, at least. ;) < 1158376191 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately not on the AP test :D. < 1158376400 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. 8 kHz sine wave. < 1158378337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158378738 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but feel glorious at that 48 MB package that is the fruit of 2.5 hours of computer labor. < 1158379985 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158383678 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1158383691 0 :CakeProphet_!n=CakeProp@h7.242.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158383695 0 :CakeProphet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1158386298 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158388983 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158391377 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158391385 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158392323 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ninight all. < 1158392387 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158392525 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158392560 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158393599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158393600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158395946 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158400332 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158400908 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The version of QT4 I compiled is too new for GNU Classpath. < 1158401797 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@192.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158405659 0 :jix!n=jix@L62f8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158405665 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158406695 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158409837 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158410325 0 :Sph1nx!n=sphinx@89-178-13-231.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1158414216 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158416980 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158420186 0 :Sph1nx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158422209 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158423785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1158424901 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh? < 1158426339 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158426861 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158428046 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158428487 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158429604 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158429637 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158429643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1158429659 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1158429707 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158429712 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158429950 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone here that has made an esoteric language? < 1158429984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of us have. < 1158430023 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1158430024 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158430051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has also done the equivalent of strapping a jet airplane onto skateboard (BFM compiling to Brainfuck) and a skateboard onto a jet airplane (BFM compiling to C). < 1158430076 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get one thing :P < 1158430099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM is a macro package for Brainfuck that I wrote out of boredom. < 1158430107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more recently, I retargeted it to C. < 1158430111 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430126 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i want to make an esoteric language, where do i begin? < 1158430147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a good idea for one. < 1158430158 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, and if i have a good idea+ < 1158430159 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1158430166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please: no Brainfuck variants; that's been much abused (by myself, even)) < 1158430172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write up a spec. < 1158430190 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im from sweden :P not so very good at english..spec? < 1158430192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start thinking about how to write an implementation (or get someone sufficiently bored to do it for you). < 1158430196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specification. < 1158430221 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just stating exactly how the language works, basically. . . < 1158430222 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sufficiently bored, if it's a good idea. < 1158430229 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430252 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like i got an idea, writes down how it works, and make someone do it for me...but what if i want to do it myself? < 1158430264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do so. < 1158430282 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how? < 1158430287 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know one thing about this < 1158430295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend talking your idea over in here for a bit; we're quite willing to help. < 1158430304 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1158430316 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i got enough info < 1158430318 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankies < 1158430362 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you've done esoterics, wich one(s)? < 1158430372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimensifuck. < 1158430377 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of < 1158430390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Dimensifuck < 1158430429 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that is too complex for me.. < 1158430465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here. Thus why I didn't implement it myself. XD < 1158430489 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what is this "implement" = < 1158430490 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1158430529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll explain by example: a C compiler is an implementation of the C programming language. < 1158430536 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tclsh is an implementation of Tcl. . . < 1158430540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc. < 1158430563 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its like a language, same as another language but with addons? < 1158430650 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but starting with brainfuck..what is its main purpose? just outputting text? < 1158430650 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean that it's a program to allow the computer to actually *run* code in that language. < 1158430660 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158430675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck's original purpose was to devise a language for which a *really* tiny compiler could be written. < 1158430686 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1158430690 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was quite succesful (the first compiler used about 241 bytes of code). < 1158430697 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158430715 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still only outputted text < 1158430728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's Turing complete. < 1158430750 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh not another thing i dont know a thing about :P sry but im really a beginner to this < 1158430753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means it's (theoretically) capable of computing anything that can be computed. < 1158430762 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could (in theory) write a PC emulator for it. < 1158430781 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430807 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think it would be possible making a bot with it? < 1158430854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One *could*. . . < 1158430872 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but? < 1158430872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming, of course, that you're really *that* insane. < 1158430877 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P < 1158430891 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you then solve if statements? < 1158430913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got while statements. One can implement if statements on those. < 1158430929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo { < 1158430935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : comment {code here} < 1158430940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : set foo 0 < 1158430940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158430944 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158430951 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can that be done in brainfuck? < 1158430955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1158430976 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesnt use { and } as operators right? < 1158430978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That example was in BFM, a macro language which compiles to Brainfuck. < 1158430996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd look more like: >>[code here[-]] < 1158431000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. < 1158431008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>[code here<<[-]] < 1158431016 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the code would be? < 1158431020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Bleh. You know what I mean, right? < 1158431050 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeh, just that you really cany have "code" in brainfuck, since it only uses arrays < 1158431056 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :number arrays < 1158431074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, >>+[<<[.,]>>[-]] < 1158431081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, in BFM: < 1158431089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ foo 0 < 1158431090 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing happens < 1158431091 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ bar 2 < 1158431096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo { < 1158431099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while bar { < 1158431101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bar < 1158431105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out bar < 1158431105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158431111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set foo 0 < 1158431111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158431119 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158431126 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how well do you know brainfuck? < 1158431140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it fairly well, I'd say. < 1158431143 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158431147 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i tryed out that code < 1158431155 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt happen anything < 1158431164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to give you an *example*. . . -_-' < 1158431179 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeh, now there's this problem i dont really know brainfuck very well < 1158431186 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suck at math too < 1158431193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The above code would, in fact, run. < 1158431204 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing would happen < 1158431246 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets say i want to make an esoteric language..what would its main purpose be? < 1158431256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (foo==1) {bar=0;while (bar) {putchar(bar);bar=getchar();}} //C equivalent. < 1158431275 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont speak c sry < 1158431311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason why the code does nothing is that bar=0. while(bar) {}, therefore, is just skipped over. < 1158431320 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um ok < 1158431326 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets say i want to make an esoteric language..what would its main purpose be? < 1158431336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I don't know. < 1158431343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for you to decide. < 1158431376 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey all i can think of is nothing...should it calculate stuff or what? i mean first of all i got to understand mathematics realtive to these things < 1158431394 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*relative < 1158431537 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i got an idea, im just gonna go think little more about it < 1158431543 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158431545 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|thinking < 1158431763 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done < 1158431767 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a basic idea < 1158431795 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems useless and completely dumb but it is there < 1158431816 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158431822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1158431834 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuduzido. < 1158431940 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses the numbers 1-6 (perhaps 7 too) . and > as operators < 1158432122 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and until further it can only output text.. < 1158432157 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1158432168 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wants to hear? < 1158432211 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158432262 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. a new brainfuck program that outputs the sequence of factorials :) < 1158432264 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bf-hacks.org/hacks/facto.b < 1158432305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot. < 1158432307 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1158432319 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well do you have email, i could send it there :P would be easier < 1158432336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pastebin it. < 1158432344 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158432368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/ < 1158432388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: That'd be easier if you wrote it in BFM. :p < 1158432391 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so im just gunna write it all down, how it works and so on < 1158432427 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfm? < 1158432432 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck macro < 1158432449 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|writing < 1158432481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I've been fiddling with for the past few weeks. . . < 1158432501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most recently made it target C (efficiently). XD < 1158432506 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be easier that way? anyways, sorry, not interested in that macro bf < 1158432537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it'd mostly be easier for me to study it. :p < 1158432544 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1158432569 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you run it yet? :) < 1158432577 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :facto.b < 1158432583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't yet. < 1158432589 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158432598 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure it out. :p < 1158433012 0 :boblol|writing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/173205 its really messy i know, im not good at explaining, so if you have any questions, just shoot < 1158433054 0 :boblol|writing!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158433134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. . . < 1158433150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a cruel, cruel way of representing text, but where's the Turing completeness? < 1158433171 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it could only output text, from now < 1158433184 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be improved i dunno < 1158433194 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what other purpose programs have then producing output? ;) < 1158433203 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158433208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: Calculating something first. < 1158433213 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then=than < 1158433218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, input. < 1158433222 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158433246 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you it was dumb and completely useless my idea, but still it was an idea :P < 1158433255 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was joking.. < 1158433271 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there you have an idea at least < 1158433302 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as bad as Malbolge, but I like that idea so far. . . >:D < 1158433315 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay =D < 1158433324 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be improved a lot < 1158433378 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how about making it reality? :P < 1158433439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at the moment. . . < 1158433471 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1158433499 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone sufficiently bored to do it for me? < 1158433610 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all; how long would it take to make it reality? < 1158433649 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends a lot. a language can be made in a few minutes but thinking and designing can take months, too < 1158433659 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but=or < 1158433815 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158433817 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158433855 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's just the same than in anything else -- you can spend minutes or years thinking something :) < 1158433880 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes never finish, and sometimes do < 1158433894 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, but now i've got the language done right? :P < 1158433926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, maybe. < 1158433930 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, if you say so :) it's an output-only language that's unsuitable for computation :) < 1158433937 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yeh :P < 1158433944 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its a language < 1158433974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of like Brainfuck Audio. :p < 1158433988 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUBSO perhaps? Completely Useless Binary System Output < 1158434001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love the name. :) < 1158434006 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh :D < 1158434032 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1158434073 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i need some kind soul to make it reality =D < 1158434087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could probably do it in Bitchanger. :p < 1158434097 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wich is? < 1158434111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Brainfuck, except it only operates on bits. < 1158434115 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158434116 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158434137 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would the final product look like? like a source developer program, like bf dev? < 1158434313 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158434354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll have to wait and see. < 1158434359 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158434381 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz there must be a source editor to it right? cos how should one be able to make code with it? < 1158434391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emacs, of course. < 1158434448 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what is that? < 1158434463 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: the ultimate text editor < 1158434484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a nice OS. :p < 1158434545 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um..well i'll see when its done ;P < 1158434604 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are we talking about the same thing now? < 1158434606 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: done? < 1158434622 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i mean a source editor for CUBSO < 1158434957 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this suck as much to you as it does to me? http://www.deviantart.com/view/39896261/ < 1158434960 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a combination of 6 different fractals photoshopped into a flower. < 1158434963 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Clicking on it gives you the full-sized picture) < 1158434983 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme check < 1158435008 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive seen better < 1158435037 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> Well I imagined -someone- had to be better than me.. < 1158435060 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said it was bad < 1158435064 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like fractals < 1158435097 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i've done over 30 fractals < 1158435136 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... < 1158435150 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never put them into things... < 1158435156 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be cool < 1158435162 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do fractals? use some program? < 1158435167 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not manually, i guess < 1158435169 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1158435190 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of the fractals in that one were rendering using Chaoscope. < 1158435196 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so. < 1158435199 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use Apophysis < 1158435210 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaoscope uses strange attractors and whatnot to map out fractals. < 1158435230 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just trying to get my beoplayer to work < 1158435243 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there we go < 1158435252 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: what version do you use? < 1158435259 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1158435299 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says 0.3 :/ < 1158435310 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158435324 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractals are nice, yeah. i've made a few simple ones manually, on paper :) < 1158435336 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158435337 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1158435343 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I have the 3.0alpha version ;0 < 1158435400 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use apophysis 2.02 < 1158435593 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158435642 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1158435742 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey keymaker how does facto.b work? < 1158435870 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a window or something open? < 1158435877 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158435879 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1158435908 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, nevermind. i tried to open some private window. ok < 1158435917 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well you mean that < 1158435918 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1158435919 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did < 1158435964 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1158435975 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1158435975 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1158436177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1158436177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what why, that is < 1158436731 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1158436735 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up? < 1158437775 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158437779 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158438467 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did everyone just die? < 1158438500 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not sure < 1158438544 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes there's no talk here at all, and sometimes there is a lot. either the way, i don't spend much time here :) < 1158438598 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might terminate myself as well.. bye < 1158438609 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158438675 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION terminates as well < 1158438677 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158440015 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158440286 0 :Nhappy!i=9happy@74.128.205.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158440423 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158440551 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158440990 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ALSA not follow Nyquist's law? < 1158441061 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and by the way, BF does *not* produce TEXT. It produces BINARY output. < 1158441074 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can encode ASCII in it, but that's a different matter altogether. < 1158441427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can also encode PCM in it (Brainfuck Audio). < 1158441440 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because PCM is a binary format, yes :P. < 1158441503 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to make a port of BF Audio? :D < 1158441511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To? < 1158441517 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme! < 1158441523 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Java, given some time. < 1158441530 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Audio == dead simple. < 1158441541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION already has a player for it written in Brainfuck. :p < 1158441676 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean other than piping it through? < 1158441678 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158442651 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried to make a turing-complete (if implemented on an ideal machine) language with the smallest possible bootstrapping compiler? < 1158442732 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know one of brainfuck's goals was to have a small compiler, but it is not that suitable for a bootstrapping compiler, at a minimum you can replace repeated +'s and -'s < 1158442853 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A. . . bootstrapping compiler? < 1158442865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean one that can compile itself? < 1158442924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootfuck: +-[]><.,! The ! instruction reads from input until it hits an EOF, and outputs compiled Bootfuck code. < 1158442935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1158443004 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W_: BrainTwist exists. < 1158443019 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, BF Audio can be as simple as a cat program made in BF. < 1158443034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would play PCM. < 1158443052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A BF Audio player needs to implement a subset of Brainfuck. < 1158443054 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ok, I guess that was too easy heh < 1158443065 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we write GCC for BF! < 1158443074 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*port GCC to BF! < 1158443088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it target BF, or make it compile BF? < 1158443099 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it compile BF. < 1158443107 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be trivial < 1158443120 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, wrong wording. < 1158443122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, it should. < 1158443127 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Port GCC *to* BF. < 1158443143 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about how easy it would be to compile C code on *any* platform! < 1158443145 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually pikhq, how would that work? < 1158443148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not until BFC is finished. < 1158443157 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: not gonna happen :) gcc is written in at least C, C++, ada, java, assembler < 1158443162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Bootfuck compiler: < 1158443163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1158443166 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1158443168 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's written in Java too? < 1158443168 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1158443178 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: I can hope, can't I? ;) < 1158443178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Yeah. GCJ. < 1158443184 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158443187 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But that's not the core GCC is what I meant. < 1158443192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it target Brainfuck first. :p < 1158443195 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually GCJ is C++ i think < 1158443198 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you're right pikhq, I was thinking about the ageold conondrum of bootstrapping compilers in the first place < 1158443200 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let's check the facts < 1158443207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The core of GCC is just a C compiler, I believe. < 1158443215 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe lindi- has the right of it. < 1158443239 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Jikes, because I don't have to recompile GCC for a new version of GCJ :D. < 1158443252 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jikes unfortunately has some nasty bugs and it's not maintained < 1158443274 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: if you know C++ i can give you all the details to the bug and you can try to hunt it down ;) i've spent days < 1158443277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: I thought GCJ was written in both C++ and Java (taking advantage of the (limited) binary compatibility provided by GCJ). . . < 1158443313 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm waiting for the sources to uncompress < 1158443341 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My somewhat old version of GCJ can't compile the current Classpath, but Jikes can. < 1158443346 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... that's good enough for me :). < 1158443360 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GCJ version is provided by portage. < 1158443381 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft. You and your package managers. < 1158443399 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware is the first distro that I've found that works with 99% of Linux drivers without trouble. < 1158443416 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: but jikes won't do classpath's generics branch < 1158443418 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Admittedly, ndiswrapper is the only thing that works less than effectively in my experience.) < 1158443425 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: and it's going to get merged soon, beware! < 1158443431 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: True. But isn't Generics a Java 5.0 thing? < 1158443435 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1158443438 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or java 1.5 < 1158443458 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the AP test quizzes Java 5.0 :D. (Which means I'm going to try and not gain reliance on its constructs.) < 1158443464 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: On Slackware, I use slapt-get. XD < 1158443469 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ew. < 1158443490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Also, realise that Slackware just gives you a plain, unpatched kernel. . . < 1158443499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an option available to you on Gentoo. < 1158443506 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware's kernel is HORRIBLE. < 1158443538 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stock unpatched, but it's an ancient version compiled without such overly modern things as USB support. < 1158443540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when you install the kernel, you have a choice between gentoo-sources and kernel-sources (one from Gentoo, one from kernel.org)) < 1158443553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: It's just 2.4. . . < 1158443570 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you use the 2.4 branch. They gave a ``testing'' 2.6 branch too. < 1158443573 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: i've been using ECJ lately < 1158443580 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was < 1158443582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And USB support *is* part of Slackware (assuming you've been using something newer than Slackware 7). < 1158443584 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: How is ECJ? < 1158443600 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: very cool :) < 1158443611 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Oooh. Maybe I'll replace Jikes with that then. < 1158443625 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: it's been rumored to that ECJ might get into GCC < 1158443632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Nice :). < 1158443639 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least when we get GPLv3 < 1158443648 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started researching on the Open Java stuff like 2-3 days ago. < 1158443670 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started two years ago when i had some compulsory java courses at university < 1158443679 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. AP Computer Science for me. < 1158443688 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AP? < 1158443695 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced Placement. < 1158443701 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High school courses that offer college credit. < 1158443719 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158443753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a hard time getting out of S-expression land though. < 1158443764 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my homework is killing me. < 1158443793 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each problem (i have to do 10 due Monday) is worth 1% of the final mark. < 1158443806 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... :P < 1158443810 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have finished one, it took three hours. < 1158443829 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun. < 1158443833 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very. < 1158443842 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want a high frequency sine wave for consolation? < 1158443859 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1158443863 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww. < 1158443869 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like squealers. < 1158443888 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a program that over a second outputs a sine wave increasing in frequency from 4khz to 5khz < 1158443890 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesen't sequeal as much as make you motion sick. < 1158443911 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not difficult, W_. < 1158443922 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, it's harder than it appears at first glance < 1158443930 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, once you know how, it's easy < 1158443934 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you have to do is modify the equation of the sine wave. < 1158443939 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think? < 1158443941 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it and see heh < 1158443985 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... why wouldn't it? < 1158444062 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming you're outputting to a file and simply playing that file raw? < 1158444096 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's two naive implementations, sin(t/pi2*(4000+t*1000)) and sin(t/pi2*4000)*(1-t)+sin(t/pi2*5000)*t < 1158444104 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both fail for different reasons < 1158444120 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for t from 0 to 1) < 1158444126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158444157 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't modulate frequency in one block? < 1158444228 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw the graphs for the two functions I outlined, and you get the idea < 1158444271 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray TI-83! < 1158444433 0 :fr34k|pafc!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158444456 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158444562 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pile! < 1158444574 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flattens fr34k|pafc with a running leap and a swan dive < 1158444623 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls over < 1158444735 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is awkward < 1158444738 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like who is here and whos isn't? < 1158444800 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who have spoken in the last hour: pikhq, Razor-X, W_, lindi- and fr34k|pafc < 1158444843 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158444844 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158444857 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in here before, but left, and now i returned < 1158444864 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im formerly boblol < 1158444873 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158444875 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1158444910 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so..how is CUBSO doin? < 1158444997 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or no one is here? < 1158445292 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158445295 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158445492 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalala < 1158445526 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalala~lalalaaaa < 1158445593 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like yeh < 1158445611 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone interested in making CUBSO reality? < 1158446496 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUBSO? < 1158446595 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely Useless Binary System Output < 1158446606 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions/layup found here: < 1158446609 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/173205 < 1158446673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on 11 channels, and this is the only one that hasn't been silenced by that announcement ... wtf. < 1158446707 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read the announcement. < 1158446713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1158446725 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158446725 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158446726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1158446732 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1158446745 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilo is....... < 1158446753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1158446761 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilo /was/ FreeNode. < 1158446783 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never knew him < 1158446799 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody /knew/ him, but everybody on FreeNode was /influenced/ by him. < 1158446811 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158446814 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158446820 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i entered FreeNode today < 1158446922 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anouncement? < 1158446959 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yas < 1158447047 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: lilo is dead. < 1158447225 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<:( < 1158447248 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1158447256 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's kinda creepy is that he's still connected. < 1158447271 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1158447274 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1158447280 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's creepy alright. < 1158447283 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1158447287 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you wonder what his away message will be... < 1158447292 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158447295 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, his logout message' < 1158447301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [lilo] is away (Whoops, I've stepped away. For URGENT freenode help (channel flooding, trolling users, network problems or access issues), please email my pager at 4iiygyvs@freenode.net . It's my job and I'm happy to respond. For ROUTINE issues, please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp .... Please take a look at my personal blog when you get a chance: http://spinhome.org .... Thanks!) < 1158447306 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably "ping timeout" < 1158447315 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158447320 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it saddens me < 1158447375 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems really unreal to consider death online... < 1158447390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1158447530 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old was he? < 1158447557 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, but I can't imagine very. < 1158447672 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric ://~|RIP Lilo|~\\ #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, go to ##brainfuck - competition: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki < 1158447676 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was 50 < 1158447683 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what they said on #freenode-announce < 1158447716 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50? < 1158447718 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158448031 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158449119 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158449771 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1158449833 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158450172 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)