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02:31:14 <GregorR-L> http://www.migniot.com/matrix/projects/jsvim < Does this work for any of you?
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16:45:32 <CakeProphet> I hate when I get weird indention errors in Python that make absolutely no sense.
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19:03:38 * pikhq really, really hates the subtlety of these $#@% bugs
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19:11:18 <boblol> lo = low, hi = high ??
19:11:43 <boblol> that wasnt supposed to be like that
19:12:20 <boblol> still havn't solved twenty :P
19:12:57 <oerjan> well, cheat like i accidentally did
19:13:42 <oerjan> if twenty -> twnt, then twentyone -> ?
19:13:45 <boblol> but i cant find anythin on google
19:14:09 <oerjan> i think i googled for twnt
19:14:45 <oerjan> (hm, maybe i cheated on purpose that time. don't remember.)
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19:16:52 <fr34k> could someone kick boblol? (thas me)
19:21:09 <lament> fr34k: /msg nickserv help
19:21:14 <oerjan> do /msg nickserv ghost <nickname> <password>, i think
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19:23:06 <oerjan> btw, is there any difference between ghost and recover?
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19:29:02 <pikhq> All I know for sure is that, somehow, *temp2=0;*temp2+=1; leaves (*temp2==0).
19:30:29 <oerjan> that sounds rather impossible.
19:31:19 <pikhq> (gdb) print *temp2
19:31:19 <pikhq> (gdb) set variable *temp2++
19:31:19 <pikhq> (gdb) print *temp2
19:31:37 <pikhq> That. . . Doesn't seem possible.
19:32:42 <oerjan> um, *temp2++ might actually increment temp2, not *temp2. not quite sure.
19:33:41 <oerjan> but i seem to recall something about pre-/postfix C operators acting from right to left.
19:34:09 <oerjan> however that would not explain *temp2+=1.
19:34:20 <pikhq> The code is currentlt *temp2++.
19:35:17 <oerjan> well, move ++ or use parentheses
19:35:37 <pikhq> It's script generated code. . .
19:35:44 * pikhq curses at pointer arithmetic
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19:37:15 <oerjan> well, have the script insert parentheses.
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23:19:46 <ihope> My biology teacher told me to study, and I studied.
23:19:55 <ihope> I didn't study much, of course.
23:20:33 <ihope> And my pre-calc teacher told me to study too, but I don't feel like it.
23:20:54 <ihope> And for English, there's some homework that probably isn't due tomorrow.
23:21:02 <ihope> Same for pre-calc.
23:25:39 <ihope> So I've decided I'm done with homework for today.
23:27:06 <pikhq> . . . You in HS, too?
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23:33:39 <|wez|> what is the criteria for a language to be Turing-complete?
23:33:52 <lament> it has to be turing-complete.
23:34:05 <pikhq> It needs to be (theoretically) capable of computing anything that can be computed.
23:34:15 <lament> it has to be equivalent in power to a turing-machine, or better.
23:34:32 <pikhq> The easiest way of proving this is proving that one can translate Brainfuck into the language. ;)
23:36:00 <|wez|> I am working on my first Esoteric language, but I guess it is not turing-complete then =)
23:36:28 <pikhq> What commands does it have?
23:36:40 <|wez|> http://nocluestudios.com/MonkeyCode/
23:37:18 <pikhq> *echm* Would it kill you to make it free software?
23:38:13 <|wez|> no, I plan to do it
23:38:13 <Asztal> all your code are ... nevermind
23:39:16 <pikhq> By "free", I do of course mean "allow all to use, study, share, and change". ;)
23:39:44 <pikhq> Without that, it might not ever run on my OS, anyways. . .
23:39:50 * pikhq is a GNU/Linux user
23:40:16 <lament> um, .exe, what's that?
23:40:25 <|wez|> but I wants to clean up the source and stuff, before I release the source
23:41:07 <pikhq> lament: A Windows binary.
23:41:26 <lament> oh, those things that sometimes get sent in email attachments that my ISP marks as a virus
23:42:11 <pikhq> lament: Ugly stuff.
23:42:22 <pikhq> I hear that it doesn't even really do AMD64.
23:46:51 <|wez|> isn't amd mobile sempron 64 bit?
23:47:16 <pikhq> But the OS you're using probably isn't. ;)
23:48:34 <|wez|> I guess it isn't =P
23:50:03 <|wez|> any comments about MonkeyCode?
23:50:41 <pikhq> A) Needs a branching operation B) Needs to be free software.
23:52:51 <|wez|> a) I don't understand what you mean, since english isn't my first language b)It will be soon,GPL or public domain
23:55:30 <pikhq> A branching operation would mean something like a conditional "GOTO" statement (or something similar). . .
23:56:27 <pikhq> Brainfuck has the [], BASIC has IF, C has if() {} & while() {}, and Tcl has if {} {} & while {} {}.
23:56:56 <pikhq> Without that, you're not Turing complete.
23:57:59 <pikhq> You have nothing of that sort. . .