< 1163549555 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163550201 0 :shastry!n=shastry@archlinux/trusteduser/shastry JOIN :#esoteric < 1163550209 0 :shastry!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1163551023 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1163553764 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1163554965 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163554995 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1163556103 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163556114 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1163556173 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1163556694 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1163559189 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omote attempts to learn C++ < 1163559191 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1163559196 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attempts to learn C++
< 1163559203 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol c++ < 1163559207 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... C++ is really... weird... and doesn't make a lot of... sense. < 1163559210 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all. < 1163559225 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just code in bf < 1163559230 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to feel all warm and comfy in his Python interpreter.
< 1163559238 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like python < 1163559252 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ scares me with its weirdness and seeming over-elaborate and very specific mumbo-jumbo. < 1163559440 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of rules that you will, in practice, almost never need to know (such as... did you know the lifetime of an typeinfo object returned by the typeid operator? etc) < 1163559441 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what's the purpose of specifying the type of the variable? The only reason I could see if gaining a smidgeon of efficiency... since all variables are limited to a maxinum number of bytes. < 1163559484 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile-time checking rather than run-time? < 1163559502 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: um < 1163559517 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with template meta-programming you can do some quite cool compile-time checks < 1163559524 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot of effeincy < 1163559563 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pah... efficiency is for chumps... :D < 1163559576 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... people working with large, memory consuming programs... < 1163559586 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they can get stuffed < 1163559596 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1163559672 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most languages are statically typed < 1163559779 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :static typing methinks can make things more difficult as well.. < 1163559785 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention... tedious. :P < 1163559808 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163559894 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hio < 1163559988 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. < 1163560037 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... C++ uses strangely inconsistent syntax. < 1163560058 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each type declaration seems to use its own branch of syntax... < 1163560093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything seems to be case-by-case and specific to various sitatuins... rather than a general, simple syntax. < 1163560575 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it did evolve from C and "C with classes" < 1163560592 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its syntax makes sense to me, though. < 1163560658 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION probably just isn't use to it.
< 1163560668 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing seems consistent in it... at the moment. < 1163560704 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything in particular? < 1163560719 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess function pointers are a bit... messy < 1163560754 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing seems messy to me. < 1163560790 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm just used to it. < 1163560812 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each new thing I encounter uses some alternate and somewhat different syntax... < 1163560963 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a good thing you're not using the C standard library < 1163560975 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you are, in which case, un-lucky! < 1163561232 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha... how weird... strings are accesses via something in the standard library. < 1163561281 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't find it weird :) < 1163561345 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never done anything w/ c++ really < 1163561358 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i looked into it when java 1.5 had generics < 1163561364 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the generics in c++ are pretty serious < 1163561377 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're turing complete < 1163561392 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do stupid stuff with them :| < 1163561466 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1163564646 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1163564812 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163564938 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1163566017 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1163566760 0 :Arrogant!i=Arrogatn@142.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163568015 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163568207 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1163568777 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1163570545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1163571183 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1163571736 0 :xor_!n=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1163571738 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1163574231 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163576283 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1163577213 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-70-135-59-64.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163577245 0 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:sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163579714 0 :jix!n=jix@195.37.106.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1163579750 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1163581961 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163581961 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163581961 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163581961 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163581961 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163581980 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163581980 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-82.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1163581980 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-66-30-121-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163581980 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@24.21.138.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1163581980 0 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ACTION lols:
< 1163600643 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c184.html < 1163601701 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c88.html < 1163604996 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163605991 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1163608706 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1163609261 0 :jix!n=jix@L6310.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1163609312 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1163609888 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@192.55.60.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1163609921 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi (2) < 1163609962 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi (3) < 1163610516 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1163610523 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163610525 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1163610677 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the programming classes at the local community college are in Java, VB or C## < 1163610685 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1163610773 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java isn't a bad language. < 1163610802 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah it is < 1163610819 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? It's an excellent way to learn OOP. < 1163610834 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are much better ways < 1163610840 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python, for example < 1163610864 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python is an imperative language. < 1163610899 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1163610913 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1163610931 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is java < 1163610978 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incorrect. Java is a functional language, not an imperative language. < 1163611040 0 :xor_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java certainly isn't functional < 1163611098 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java certainly isn't functional indeed < 1163611120 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python has more functional properties like anonymous functions < 1163611567 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um ... < 1163611575 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is functional in the least ... < 1163611600 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's imperative, subclass procedural, subclass object oriented, subclass nazi-type object orientation. < 1163611616 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1163611622 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is NOT functional in the least ^^ < 1163614718 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1163614780 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@c220-237-11-4.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615119 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615143 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1163615144 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1163615185 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163615185 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163615185 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163615186 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163615186 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1163615205 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615205 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-82.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615205 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-66-30-121-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615205 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@24.21.138.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615205 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615427 0 :CXII!n=Sanity@c220-237-11-4.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1163615559 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1163616329 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1163620338 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1163620622 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"because I can!" < 1163620764 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163622048 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1163622113 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1163622459 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric