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04:34:21 <calamari> c++ is the most esoteric language of them all :/
04:35:34 <Figs> are you sure? :P
04:35:35 <pikhq> It stops being esoteric when knowledge of it is a normal requirement for a CS course.
04:35:38 <Figs> C can be worse
04:35:49 <pikhq> (although it can still be fucking weird as hell)
04:36:11 <Figs> http://static.flickr.com/120/304387877_3fb38f8156.jpg
04:36:24 <Figs> "My God! It's full of cars!"
04:37:03 <Figs> kudos if you know what webcomic that's used as side-joke in
04:37:15 <Figs> and what language they were refering to.
04:37:25 <pikhq> The *language* is Lisp.
04:37:35 <Figs> pikhq gets half a kudo.
04:37:44 <Figs> what's the comic? :)
04:37:53 <pikhq> *Could* be xkcd. . .
04:38:00 <pikhq> But I'm not sure 'bout that.
04:38:31 <Figs> http://xkcd.com/c224.html
04:38:34 <pikhq> http://xkcd.com/c224.html I'm right, indeed.
04:40:16 <Figs> True or False: "props" can be used as a verb.
04:40:47 <pikhq> "He props up the sign"
04:40:59 <Figs> What case/tense is that?
04:41:24 <pikhq> I could tell you were it in one of my *non*native languages. :p
04:42:03 <Figs> Finnish apparently has ___ grammatical cases?
04:43:20 <Figs> I think it's 15...
04:44:08 <pikhq> Don't speak Finnish; can't help you.
04:44:30 <Figs> but some wikipedians apparently do
04:44:44 * pikhq does Japanese and Esperanto (to varying degrees of ability)
04:45:58 <Figs> what is the past tense of 'eat' in esperanto?
04:48:44 <Figs> La hundo vendis horlo^goj.
04:49:09 <Figs> ^g --> g with ^
04:49:48 <Figs> If I ever go back to designing languages
04:50:15 <Figs> I won't put those obnoxious extra characters into it :P
04:50:27 <Figs> I'd either make my own alphabet
04:50:38 <Figs> or use one of the already working ones :P
04:58:08 <Figs> can anyone give me a list of 20 words in English that stay the same in the past participle?
05:24:44 <Figs> sorry for the slow reply -- I left for dinner
05:24:56 <Figs> any way, you can find a list here:
05:25:00 <Figs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_irregular_verbs
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05:32:35 <pikhq> If I could remember the infinitive of 'eat', I could tell you.
05:32:43 <Figs> La hundo vendis horlogo.
05:32:48 <pikhq> Mi estas esperanta komencanto. . .
05:33:10 <pikhq> Kaj mia esperanto ne bonas.
05:34:38 <Figs> I barely even know any :P
05:34:51 <Figs> so even if you are a newbie, it's ok :P
05:34:58 <Figs> (that's the meaning, right?)
05:35:17 <Figs> "I'm an esperanto newbie, and my esperanto isn't good."?
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22:34:06 <SimonRC> did I tell you I calculated the power density of the Sun? 0.27 W/m^3. No wonder the hot-fusion people are have such a hard time.
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23:19:39 <SimonRC> A: any one where the TLD is .gr !
23:19:45 <SimonRC> (urn = Universal Resource Name .. a superset of URLs)
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23:19:47 <SimonRC> (not the ususal punchline, eh?)
23:20:57 <oerjan> lessee, the sun is not optimized for producing the most possible effect.
23:21:21 <oerjan> rather, i assume it produces just enough to compensate for gravitation.
23:21:57 <oerjan> then, the fact that there exist much larger stars indicates that more effect is possible.
23:22:29 <oerjan> also, i think fusion only happens in the core.
23:23:39 <lament> oerjan: i suspect the larger ones have lower output per area.
23:25:41 <oerjan> i doubt it. i understand blue giants live much shorter, which means they must burn faster.
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23:47:45 <oerjan> i thought i saw you here before in the logs?
23:47:52 <fax> well yeah ive been here a few times
23:48:04 <fax> but Im no good with esoteric languages so I feel bad
23:48:08 <oerjan> in fact you had some question. hm.
23:48:25 <fax> oh regarding tr? I gave up and used the less elegant sed commands..
23:49:00 <fax> well I was sleep deprived and manic
23:49:10 <fax> so I end up writing a one liner matrix screensaver
23:49:20 <oerjan> i was going to say that perl has a tr command too, but i don't know if it does Unicode any better.
23:49:22 <fax> & whats more thats the only line of code I wrote in a week :/
23:49:32 <fax> if I used perl's tr, It would look stupid
23:49:39 <fax> like "Why doesnt he just do it all in perl"
23:49:52 <fax> I think anyway..
23:50:14 <oerjan> that is one possible syntax.
23:50:19 <fax> bsmntbombdood: translate ASCII characters to unicode, it might be possible by setting local env vars or somthing..
23:50:24 <fax> I didnt bother
23:50:27 <fax> (to find ot)
23:50:41 <fax> another (ugly) solution is sed to replace each ASCII with 3 ASCII chars, then tr should work
23:50:45 <fax> but thats really.. stupid
23:50:53 <fax> a single sed expression or a sed & a tr
23:51:04 <oerjan> i guess tr/a/b/ is more usual.
23:52:11 <oerjan> on the other hand, why _don't_ you just do it all in perl.
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23:53:56 <fax> oerjan: 'cos anyone could do it in perl :p
23:54:07 <fax> im just trying to accumulate lots of interesting "Bash one liners"
23:56:11 <oerjan> hm... you could use sed to build the sed command.
23:56:34 <fax> oo I like that
23:57:09 <fax> thats crafty :D