00:12:21 <oerjan> can't you funcall with infinite number of parameters by using a cyclic list?
00:12:55 <fax> oerjan: I tried (apply #'format t "..." infinite-list)
00:12:59 <fax> which didnt work
00:13:05 <fax> but I think you are rihgt
00:13:11 <fax> I could just call it without apply
00:13:16 <fax> may work, im not sure
00:13:28 <fax> depends on the behavior of ~?
00:13:37 <fax> (which im not totally sure about)
00:13:49 <oerjan> might be implementation-defined
00:16:11 <oerjan> even then i have a sense you get limited to a pushdown automaton since the positions in the formats and argument lists are your only changeable data that i can see
00:18:28 <oerjan> except, perhaps, if you use the extensible output string as your format string in some clever way...
00:20:45 <oerjan> something like Smith or Muriel
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02:01:35 * pikhq has discovered that Gentoo provides an easy way to get GDC working. . .
02:01:47 <pikhq> Add "d" to USE, recompile GCC; voila.
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04:29:15 <SimonRC> If you ever wondered how virtual methods worked, this paper has an excellent explanation, AFAICT: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~urs/oocsb/papers/oopsla96.pdf
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05:32:19 <bsmntbombdood> virtual methods being ones that need to be defined in a subclass?
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17:18:22 <pikhq> http://omg.worsethanfailure.com/ Anyone else going to work on this?
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19:21:36 <bsmntbombdood> contest: write a program to print the decimal representation of the 435 fibonacci number
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19:28:18 <fax> then do [fbs=.,&fbs+/0 1{fbs 435 times
19:28:28 <fax> then take elemt 0
19:32:14 <fax> bsmntbombdood: whats the 8th fib number?
19:32:29 <fax> its 21 right?
19:34:11 <lament> of course, you're probably using Perl :)
19:35:21 <lament> 39, hasekll: let f=0:1:zipWith(+)f(tail f)in f!!435
19:35:43 <fax> damn i I knew how to do somthing several times..
19:36:41 <fax> whats that?!
19:40:41 <fax> what language
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19:44:21 <faux> ugh I dont know J well enough to write this
19:45:01 <faux> oh maybe I know what to do
19:55:01 <faux> 0{((2 0{(,+/))^:(435-2))1 1
19:55:04 <faux> thats mine though
19:55:09 <faux> probably possible to make it shorter
19:55:17 <faux> the answer is 3.63194e90?
20:03:01 <sebbu> faux, what's your language ?
20:03:35 <faux> but I dont really know J .. Its hard
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21:24:30 <fax> OK I told every other channel... I made a parody of http://www.linuxsoftware.co.nz/containerchoice.png ..... http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5972/lispcontainerchoicelp9.gif
21:24:41 <fax> can you tell im bored?
21:54:47 <pikhq> Too many damned things I should work on. . .
21:55:09 <pikhq> I still want to try my hand at that Linux distro I've been thinking about. . .
21:58:28 <GregorR> pikhq: My improved Plof interpreter works now :)
21:58:44 <pikhq> GregorR: Speaking of which, I've now got a working D compiler.
21:58:58 <GregorR> Now all you need is Tango and DSSS, and you can compile it ;P
22:00:23 <pikhq> Could you please do me a favor and either remove that dependency or actually bother with the amd64 port you said you'd work on?
22:00:42 <GregorR> I can't really remove the dependency on Tango.
22:02:13 <pikhq> So, I should work on getting myself a nice, shiny new distro instead.
22:02:38 <GregorR> ... or just compile with -m32?
22:02:45 <pikhq> . . . That'd be too easy.
22:05:05 <GregorR> Do you have 32-bit libs installed?
22:05:59 <GregorR> Just grab this binary: http://downloads.dsource.org/projects/tango/0.97/tango-0.97-forDSSS-gdc-i686-pc-linux-gnu-withDSSS-withGDC.sh
22:06:21 <pikhq> The 32-bit libc actually comes out of the box in Gentoo now. . .
22:06:29 <GregorR> That's either nifty or awful.
22:06:39 <pikhq> It's just so that gcc -m32 works.
22:06:48 <pikhq> It's not *used* at all unless you install more packages.
22:07:21 <pikhq> (I *think* it's just for simplicity's sake; easier to get the libc package to do both than to have multiple packages which only need to be cared about for x86_64)
22:08:02 <pikhq> . . . Unless maybe busybox is linked against the 32 bit libs?
22:26:21 <fax> bsmntbombdood: by me?
22:27:08 <pikhq> What language is that?
22:27:39 <fax> Im sure it could be done better though
22:27:43 <fax> Im not really any good at J
22:27:44 <pikhq> If we're allowed to use *any* language for that competition, then I can *surely* find something that'd win.
22:27:55 <fax> yeah Fibonacci++ :P
22:28:14 <pikhq> Turing complete, I'd assume. . .
22:29:09 <pikhq> +++>++++>+++>+++++<<<F
22:30:31 <pikhq> Now a Perl implementation would be interesting. . .
22:30:42 <pikhq> Probably get something like a large string of numbers.
22:30:49 <fax> I bet you guys have seen this a million times
22:30:51 <fax> but incase you havent
22:30:57 <fax> http://montreal.pm.org/tech/neil_kandalgaonkar.shtml
22:31:05 <fax> primeality test regex
22:31:10 <fax> I thought that was great
22:31:15 <pikhq> Not surprised at all.
22:31:39 <pikhq> In such uses, Perl counts as an esolang. . .
22:31:46 <pikhq> Kind of like what IOCCC can be.
22:32:06 <pikhq> m(){n;f(h=1;h<=b;d=1);f(c=2;c<=b;c++)i(e){p("%i\n",c);f(h=c*c;h<=b;h+=c)g=0;}}
22:32:14 <pikhq> That's my personal example.
22:33:06 <pikhq> The list of defines on the command line is about as long as that code. . .
22:35:22 <pikhq> X is defined as something else via -D.
22:35:34 <pikhq> -D "n=int a[b]" -D f=for -D p=printf -D m=main -D b=10000 -D "c=(a[1])" -D "d=a[h++]" -D e=a[c] -D g=a[h] -D "h=(*a)" -D i=if
22:35:35 <fax> thats cheating
22:35:43 <pikhq> There; the list of defines for my line of C.
22:35:51 <fax> you can use GCC as a brainfuck compiler like that
22:36:06 <pikhq> It really doesn't get any better after preprocessing. . .
22:37:47 <pikhq> As proof: http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bar.c
22:37:55 <pikhq> My line after preprocessing and indent.
22:38:50 <pikhq> First person to figure out what it does and how wins a prize.
22:40:09 <fax> I have no idea
22:43:28 <pikhq> It's a prime number generator.
22:43:40 <fax> see i thought it might be
22:43:41 <pikhq> Now how, I leave as an exercise for the reader.
22:43:47 <fax> but then I thought.. no way
22:43:52 <pikhq> (just name the algorithm)
22:44:19 <pikhq> fax: Why'd you think 'no way'?
22:46:00 <fax> no % anywhere!
22:46:31 <pikhq> Who needs that operation?
22:46:43 <pikhq> And there *is* a %. . . In the printf call.
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23:26:32 <oerjan> i think there is an off by one error in the first for, for starters
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23:30:34 <oerjan> basically, i think all the <= 10000 should be < 10000
23:35:29 <oerjan> other than that it looks like an Erasthotenes's sieve