< 1178496021 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can lay it out by hand when you only have a few hundred hosts < 1178496570 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The modern Internet could be produced more nicely via /dev/urandom. < 1178496883 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only true randomness on my internets! < 1178496995 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the internet's structure has a property known as scale-invariance, which is not the case for simple versions of randomness. < 1178497050 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently my Internet connection hates me. < 1178497395 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har, google "she invented" < 1178498298 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1178498954 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1178499371 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody know where CakeProphet went? < 1178500212 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last seen may 4, when he said nothing < 1178500394 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1178502855 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1178502880 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-43-113.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178504728 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178508282 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1178510843 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1178513935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1178524799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1178524800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1178547795 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1178552216 0 :the_entropy!i=entropy@gateway/tor/x-eba502df67d1c278 JOIN :#esoteric < 1178553067 0 :crathman!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1178556088 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-52-194.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1178562500 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178563161 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1178563714 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-43-34.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178565758 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-80.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1178565855 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1178566247 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1178566587 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi people < 1178566602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1178567269 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where be my entropys? < 1178567283 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1178567402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's entropy forecast: Low but rising. < 1178567417 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1178567434 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more interested in tommrow's, today's is almost over < 1178567459 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/today's/today/ < 1178567487 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-term entropy forecast: Low but rising for the next few billion years. < 1178567504 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1178567512 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no entropy < 1178567517 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is predetermined < 1178569563 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew you were going to say that. < 1178569616 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1178571202 0 :crathman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]" < 1178571787 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178572165 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 the Internet. < 1178572281 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Story: Someone posts some information in an obscure place where maybe 100 people will see it. A second person takes unreasonable objection to the information being available and tries to take some legal action them. The first person puts up a notice saying that this has happened. The second person tries to sue them for saying so... < 1178572336 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The story hits the fron pages of digg and slashdot, so 100 MILLION people see this information. Songs are recorded, domain names purchased, and t-shirts printed. < 1178572374 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Have Lost at the intarnet. Please insert 50p to continue. < 1178572796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would have been more satisfying if the information revealed had been a complete crack rather than, as I understand, a nearly throwaway code. Or maybe that just makes it even more pathetic. < 1178573121 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178573127 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The complete crack should be out by August. :p < 1178573166 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(currently, they've got an undefeatable way to *copy* disks; the complete decryption crack is forthcoming) < 1178573197 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a crack, isn't there? < 1178573197 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefeatable way to *copy* them? < 1178573207 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that... already possible? < 1178573223 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming the media isn't weird, that is. < 1178573292 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the media is always weird. any article on a subject you actually are an expert in always contains errors. < 1178573379 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: The HD-DVD format has certain 'unreadable' bits required for decryption. . . Usually, getting at them requires a cryptographic handshake with the drive. < 1178573391 0 :the_entropy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"l8er" < 1178573401 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hack the drive < 1178573406 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the cracks out there is a patched firmware for the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive, allowing one to obtain those unreadable bits. .. < 1178573412 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: That's been done. < 1178573426 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally my pet peeve is how i see journalists put a token statistical number into an article, but it is a number which gives no information in isolation. < 1178573436 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nearly none. < 1178573579 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1178573581 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/07/lousy_test_question_.html < 1178573590 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lousy test question, indeed < 1178573964 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to check multiple answers? < 1178574089 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. If you do that, you get a zero on the whole test automatically. < 1178574168 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'll just leave that one blank. < 1178574537 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do *that*, you get a zero on the whole test automatically. < 1178574545 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you get it wrong. < 1178574558 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you get it right, you automatically get 100% on the test. < 1178574827 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1178575150 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The test consists only of that one question, right?) < 1178575209 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMMM < 1178575220 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am afraid i am going to have to flunk ihope on reading comprehension. < 1178575225 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, realistically, it's B < 1178575239 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that another -ally word? < 1178575254 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you COULD make a case for each of the answers < 1178575261 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is true of very many multiple-choice questions < 1178575269 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but B is the most correct option < 1178575290 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would prefer C. < 1178575293 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, in practice it's the one that gets used. < 1178575312 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquids are almost always measured by volume. < 1178575332 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, right. < 1178575336 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, it's much easier to find their volume than their weight < 1178575351 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the applesauce is probably already in a jar. < 1178575381 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the question had been in the cooking section rather than math it would not have been controversial at all. < 1178575459 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a cooking section? < 1178575460 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1178575468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there could have been < 1178576085 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it would've. < 1178576099 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Where's the hogheads option?" < 1178576141 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shops sell it in grams < 1178576632 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1178576793 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1178576793 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1178577089 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders http://www.thegreenwolf.com/afgto.html < 1178577813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice when it comes to fantasy indeed. < 1178577972 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1178578003 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book documents some peoples' actual beliefs < 1178578022 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost certainly hang out with some of these people online. < 1178578604 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, there are those with those actual beliefs? < 1178578607 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/./ < 1178579152 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1178579277 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-43-34.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1178579366 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-98.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1178580529 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1178580771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1178580957 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying "uses metric" doesn't make much sense < 1178581033 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: liquids are measured by mass < 1178581180 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: not in any household uses < 1178581250 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can of soup says it contains "524 g" < 1178581269 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does not say the volume of the can? < 1178581346 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives measurements in oz, lb, g < 1178581468 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps belgium is just a weird country. < 1178581515 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :belgium? < 1178581584 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whichever country you're in :) < 1178581618 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US < 1178581629 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well < 1178581632 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably where the question is from < 1178581639 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't expect the US to do anything sanely < 1178581679 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: where people actually use metric (as opposed to putting numbers on cans because there's a law that says you have to), they measure liquids by volume < 1178581702 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have lived in four different countries that all use metric, and it's the same everywhere. < 1178581757 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame canada. < 1178581774 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada is one of the four :) < 1178581841 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyway, liter isn't even an SI unit < 1178581917 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, the conversion is easy enough :)