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22:14:02 <bsmntbombdood> 1/((log(x) + log(y) + 2)/-log(abs(x/y - n))) <-- this makes for an interesting graph
22:14:24 <ehird`> Is there a word for when you're designing an esolang but it turns out it's actually quite pleasant to program in and hey, this is actually a usable, real language?
22:14:28 <ehird`> if not there should be
22:30:51 <ehird`> in the context of "yay i actually wrote a useful language, oh time to reimplement all my software in it" or just "yay"
22:35:13 <ehird`> lament: in the context of "fuck now i don't get esoteric hell" or just "fuck"
22:38:18 * SimonRC recalls the time he found a fractal whose escape-times looked like a collection of rubber gloves
22:39:00 <SimonRC> these were four-digited rubber gloves
22:39:27 <SimonRC> I chucked some random functions and constants into the generic escape-time fractal generator.
22:39:39 <ehird`> factorial = dup 1 > [dup 1 - factorial *] [pop 1] if ;; <-- well, when i said "non-esoteric", I didn't mean "easy"...
22:39:52 <SimonRC> in there were mor gloves of different colours suck round the main gloves
22:39:53 <ehird`> hmm, make that just 1 -
22:40:20 <ehird`> SimonRC: TheLanguageThatWasMeantToBeEsotericButIsNowActuallyQuiteUseful
22:40:28 <ehird`> stack-based, functional.
22:40:52 <SimonRC> it is almost like Factor, but factor need more spaces
22:41:41 <ehird`> factor is cool looking
22:41:47 <ehird`> haven't actually used it tho
22:41:52 <SimonRC> It has a certain thing in common with Smalltalk...
22:42:07 <SimonRC> specifically, the primitives are a lot deeper than you think.
22:42:39 <SimonRC> In factor, you can freely muck around with the parser or lexer, or the object structure, or the inheritance mechanism
22:43:09 <SimonRC> heck, you can even change the multiple-dispatch mechanism without re-entering the methods.
22:43:16 <ehird`> hmmm... i don't think TheLa... will have that in its implementation - well, the self-hosted one i guess :)
22:43:31 <SimonRC> I realised I was dispatching on the first argument not the second, by accident, and I cahnged it and it just worked
22:43:38 * ehird` is putting off implementing it because of the syntax
22:43:45 <ehird`> i guess the syntax isn't too bad though
22:44:04 <ehird`> "str", [lambda], X = Y ;;
22:45:15 <SimonRC> you might want to go for Logo-style defining
22:45:34 <SimonRC> Logo is ridiculously simple in that way
22:46:06 <SimonRC> if you want to define a variable or function, you just do (effectively) define "name" meaning.
22:46:27 <SimonRC> the name is passed as a string/symbol, and the meaning can be a list if you want it to be a function, ISTR
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