< 1180656041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the definite article developed in Middle Bulgarian (12th-15th century) < 1180662521 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ratspin < 1180662622 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many rats can a ratspin spin if a ratspin can spin rats? < 1180662685 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ratspin rats < 1180662753 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hair is full of spiderwebs < 1180662758 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid spiders < 1180662881 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a poem. < 1180663077 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't manage to google a straight definition of ratspin. < 1180663097 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering which definition of the word "straight" you're using :P < 1180663115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, straight forward < 1180663135 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be suprised if you could find a definition < 1180663174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have found some uses, apparently meaning something like "hogwash" especially by politicians < 1180663218 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, not some very fetishist gay sex maneuver. < 1180663293 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out what that would be < 1180663294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i wondered if it had a more direct meaning of some kind < 1180663310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something involving gerbils, i take < 1180663342 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ass gerbil < 1180663352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a spin < 1180663371 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably kill the gerbil < 1180663419 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the anal gerbil penetration would kill the gerbil anyway :P < 1180663437 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the story the gerbil lives < 1180663444 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use a toilet paper tube < 1180663451 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: I've seen gerbils chew through plastic. The gerbil is not a good rodent to use X-D < 1180663487 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll keep that in mind < 1180663487 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :barely beats the xenomorph < 1180663614 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, I've looked for gerbiling/hamstering/whatever on Wikipedia. < 1180663617 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find it :( < 1180663630 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuh < 1180663632 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbilling < 1180663634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would imagine snopes.com a better place. < 1180663644 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1180663645 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stupid < 1180663662 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The notion of gerbilling (not necessarily restricted to homosexuals — the insertion of items into the rectum for purposes of autoeroticism is practiced by heterosexuals as well) appears to be pure invention, a tale fabricated to demonstrate the depravity with which "faggots" allegedly pursue sexual pleasure." < 1180663697 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of medical evidence for gerbilling is not surprising when one considers that (1) rodents have claws, (2) frightened animals are likely to bite, and (3) rodents can be quite large. < 1180663698 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1180663706 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah really < 1180663777 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y'know, I've looked for gerbiling/hamstering/whatever on Wikipedia. \ I can't find it :( < 1180663782 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1180663832 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For whatever reason, just using the word didn't occur to me :P < 1180663839 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to find it from 'Gerbil' < 1180663841 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(etc) < 1180663847 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i searched for "ass gerbil" < 1180663850 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first result < 1180663912 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmm .... the page on "Rectal foreign object" says that Scrubs refers to two such instances. I can remember a third :P < 1180664070 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about a guy putting wet concrete up his ass < 1180664078 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha < 1180664083 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it hardended < 1180664093 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the unlikely scenario that that was true, that somebody would be infinitely stupid :) < 1180664113 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the impression i was reading a medical report < 1180664141 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel bad googling for "wet cement rectum" < 1180664142 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just recently read somewhere that concrete will set under water, so it must be true ;) < 1180664176 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it's the first google result < 1180664196 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was another article, even had a picture of the cement < 1180664234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/cement.html < 1180664289 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Well, if someone actually *did* it, there'd be instant medical evidence. < 1180664298 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my link < 1180664327 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about gerbiling, not the cement bit. < 1180664333 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the anus was dilated and two Foley catheters were inserted alongside the rectal mass to relieve suction. A concrete case of the rectum was delivered without incident." < 1180664347 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he attending physician recommended a psychiatric consultation, but the patient declined." < 1180664367 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A layer of concrete was chipped off the upper part of the specimen and revealed a white plastic ping-pong ball." < 1180664369 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1180664419 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF?!? < 1180664430 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1180664734 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In one review of colorectal foreign bodies and their management, all patients were male and mostly in the fourth and fifth decades of life." < 1180664738 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1180664884 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mostly in the fourth and fifth decades of life" < 1180664889 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an awkward way to say that. < 1180664904 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/explicar.jpg < 1180664937 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That == hilarious X-D < 1180664955 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=p_q@bas2-toronto47-1242437214.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1180665028 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi poiuy_qwert < 1180665036 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello oerjan < 1180665121 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it exploded, almost all over my keyboard < 1180665130 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i got it away in time < 1180665172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if bsmntbombdood has changed subject or not < 1180665202 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's part of some qdb or bash.org quote < 1180665231 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy is talking about opening a coke, a guy enters the channel, he says what i said, guy leaves with a quit message of something like "sick fucks" < 1180665289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, by representing strings as trees you get constant time concatenation and O(log n) time indexing < 1180665315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what haskell's Data.Sequence does < 1180665326 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, constant time splicing. < 1180665332 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But by representing strings as *arrays* of trees of lists, you get to be *really* confusing! < 1180665333 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1180665338 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not constant, O(log n) < 1180665341 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But spacially constant < 1180665389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of figured you had timed that exploding message to poiuy_qwert's arrival < 1180665409 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1180665427 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: what would be the point of that < 1180665428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, i think it would have worked better if you had _not_ changed the subject :) < 1180665461 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: First step in creating something more evil than Malbolge. < 1180665495 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i approve < 1180665503 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks about it. . . < 1180665550 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.andyblume.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=475&g2_serialNumber=1 < 1180665643 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.andyblume.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=544&g2_serialNumber=1 <-- similar < 1180665747 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to do it < 1180665763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn the second one took me a while < 1180665775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was worth it < 1180665789 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's a real add < 1180665800 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for real lube < 1180665814 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brilliant. < 1180665905 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, http://www.manix.net/index.html < 1180665941 0 :nuba!n=nuba@hq.imaterial.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1180665990 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evMBjes_vnw < 1180666117 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was less than subtle. . . < 1180666136 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must ... find ... good ... image comparison algorithm ... < 1180666206 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Obviously what you need is the very, very powerful "Plof reference counting" algorithm. < 1180666220 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, I'm really not helpful) < 1180666231 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1180666253 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: the "esp game" route < 1180666302 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.espgame.org/cgi-bin/description < 1180666318 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a good talk somewhere that he explains it in detail < 1180666372 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... something called "esp game" is an image comparison algorithm? < 1180666391 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "algorithm" mean deterministic? < 1180666396 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. That wouldn't help my target problem at all. < 1180666403 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally. < 1180666456 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the talk: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143&q=human+computation < 1180666476 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, is that a mechanical turk sort of thing? < 1180666500 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ESP game wouldn't help my problem at all. < 1180666515 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to be able to take two totally arbitrary images and get a comparison. < 1180666521 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: yeah < 1180666546 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: md5sum. < 1180666558 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I COMPARISON, not equality X_X < 1180666575 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like a halting problem solver on the side? < 1180666586 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably depends on the images < 1180666605 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type, and the kind of comparison you want < 1180666629 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say I have three pictures. Two are of faces, the third is of a house. < 1180666642 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result of comparing the two faces should be lower than the result of comparing one of the faces to the house. < 1180666652 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has a face recognition algorithm < 1180666660 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bashes his head into a wall. < 1180666671 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking you might want to write that algorithm, and use it for a pH.D thesis. < 1180666676 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1180666805 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an algorithm to find "blobs", and then compare the shape of the blobs < 1180666920 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blobs being regions of similar color < 1180667088 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blob finding doesn't seem hard < 1180667282 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can compare blobs by putting their centers in the same spot, and taking the area of the region the both cover < 1180670364 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking today about a method for assesing the danger of some activity, by multiplying the probability of failure by the gravity of failure < 1180670381 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't figure out how to generalize it to multiple failure modes < 1180670540 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One should average the individual dangers. < 1180670652 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm rusty on my statistics--what's the probability that either of two independent events happen? < 1180670790 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-(1-p)*(1-q) < 1180670815 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1180670815 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1180670844 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sucky on my statistics. .. < 1180670869 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it can be defined in terms of a derivative or integral, my brain doesn't handle it any more, I fear. < 1180670873 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that goes to 1 - \prod_i {1 - a_i} for a sequence of probabilitys? < 1180670888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you need to consider what is the gravity of two things happening simultaneously < 1180670899 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180670899 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180670900 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just deMorgan's law, really < 1180670929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the probably that it is _not_ the case that neither happens < 1180670961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the probability that _both_ of two independent events happen is the product < 1180671033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_if_ you assume that the gravity of two things happening simultaneously is the sum of the gravities, then you can just add the risks. even if they are not independent. < 1180671041 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80-162.cust.umeaenergi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1180671058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the expected value of a sum is the sum of the expected values < 1180671061 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1180671118 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the danger/risk is just the expected value of the gravity of the actual outcome < 1180671199 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what Pikhq said < 1180671210 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :average all the dangers < 1180671222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not average, sum < 1180671252 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiply the average by the number of dangers, not sum! < 1180671280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1180671286 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same < 1180671288 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expected value is average, isn't it? < 1180671298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1180671316 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's the joke. < 1180671339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if all outcomes have the same probability. < 1180671353 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1+2+3)/3*3=1+2+3 < 1180671393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expectation is the integral with respect to probability. < 1180671417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is a sum if probabilities are discrete) < 1180671531 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i think a sum follows intuition < 1180672007 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an average doesn't: three dangers of .25 together have an average of .25, clearly wrong < 1180672216 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand this doesn't work if dangers don't sum, like lethal ones (you can only die once) < 1180672302 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking death has infinite gravity < 1180672324 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a painful dishonerable death does < 1180672521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a discussion on that recently < 1180672561 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the context of a game where you could win a million dollars simply by showing up, but there was a chance that you would die < 1180672628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paradox being that most people say they wouldn't participate for any price, yet most take greater risks every day just by crossing the street < 1180672657 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, death can't be infinite gravity < 1180672664 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could die by crossing the street < 1180672669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea that death has infinite gravity doesn't hold up against people's actual behavior < 1180672697 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1180672773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a better "rational" behavior might be to maximise your expected total remaining life quality < 1180672801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although real people probably don't work by that either :) < 1180672823 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real people dont try to quantify dangers < 1180672867 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in small tasks at any rate < 1180672881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps in economical matters < 1180672921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i am not one of those that do that, either... < 1180673209 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in economic matters it's easy to quantify the gravity of failure/success < 1180674091 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if death has inifinite gravity, the subject will do nothing. < 1180674102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i understand what we're talking about < 1180674105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's ai. < 1180674139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you can die from doing nothing too, i'm sure < 1180674157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact you can probably die from excess worrying < 1180674189 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes the (Flash) game Mindscape. < 1180674202 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the humour, I think. < 1180674206 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has non of the usual run-along-2d-landscape-collecting-stuff-to-save-the-world crap < 1180674210 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you must run arond in your hallucinations cause by your delusional state of mind, to save your sanity. < 1180674220 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the cute bunnies, despite their claims to the contrary, are EEEEVIL! < 1180674222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzz < 1180674305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if every action is calculated a value indicating how good it is, death being a negative inifity means even a slight change of death will make that goodness index inifitely small, which means every action is as bad as the next one < 1180674337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now school -> < 1180674676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think of death as infinitely bad, if someone asks you whether you want a bullet in your head or eternal life, you will pick a random choise. < 1180674693 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you might have a heart attack just before the eternal life. < 1180674814 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Thanks, now youv'e got that addicted. < 1180675001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i meant 'random', by 'doing nothing' i meant it will be a sucky ai < 1180675648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would usually interpret "infinitely bad" in a relative sense: you could still compare different probabilities of dying, it's just that unless the probabilities of dying are the same, no other kind of danger would have any effect on the comparison. < 1180675739 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then eternal life would be the preferable choice. < 1180675788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf*n=inf. < 1180675808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would not be that kind of inf < 1180675827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours requires a more complex view of assigning goodness values, which is only better in the case of infinite gravities. < 1180675838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1180675844 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see the point, let's just say infinite values bug here < 1180675851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1180675853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :school? < 1180675854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1180675855 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------> < 1180675880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about why you hadn't left yet. have a good day. :) < 1180676102 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it makes more sense to rank gravitys in [0, 1] rather than [0, inf] < 1180676134 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work with stuff like money though < 1180676250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends. money inflates if there is too much of it. < 1180676279 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you convert monetary winnings into [0, 1] though? < 1180676317 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1180676324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :logically 1 would have to represent the maximal possibility. < 1180676340 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no maximum amount of money though < 1180676368 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i am saying is that an infinite amount of money does not necessarily have infinite value, because of inflation. < 1180676390 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1180676464 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one person has unbounded moneys...money isn't worth anything anymore < 1180676537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that person is smart enough not to spend it all < 1180676560 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that person looks a lot like a central bank < 1180676584 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, a government with complete access to the central bank < 1180676617 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a smart government knows not to mint unbounded moneys, and back their moneys by something that actually is limited < 1180676620 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gold < 1180676696 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays i thought interest had taken the place of gold < 1180676720 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean interest? < 1180676766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1180676771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bank will mint unlimitedly, but those that want any of it must pay interest and give collateral < 1180676772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot my essay < 1180676782 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, since i waited for the bus for 5 min < 1180676784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :------------> < 1180676790 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1180676793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the collateral limits it < 1180676871 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also suppose this system can only work during economic growth < 1180677321 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Currently, most monetary systems are based, not on something of actual value, but merely the trust that it *is* valuable. < 1180677331 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the credit-based economy. < 1180677717 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trusting the government, where does that lead < 1180677762 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a level of hell reserved for that. < 1180678073 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_currency < 1180678270 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :demanding taxes to be paid in a certain currency gives it value also < 1180679739 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good something" < 1180684799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1180684800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1180688014 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have insanely written a neural network for comparing images. < 1180688023 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It asks the human operator which image is more similar. < 1180688032 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the training function is ultra-slow (as slow as a person ;) ) < 1180688041 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt highly that it'll work to any useful degree. < 1180688173 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it on a website, and make it fun to do < 1180688239 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do it in batch < 1180688259 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1180688274 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make it fun to do ... < 1180688277 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* I know! < 1180688282 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION types "tits" into google image search < 1180688297 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one comparison, one tit < 1180688318 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1180688335 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't enough tits on the internet to train this neural net :P < 1180688375 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah there are < 1180688440 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That statement was an exaggeration for the sake of emphasis :P < 1180688469 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use other body parts too < 1180688521 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Select sexuality upon registering. < 1180688564 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mostly get only male opinions if you use porn < 1180688590 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get my training set, I just used google image search with the following search terms: < 1180688596 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a, the, art, architecture, man, woman < 1180688638 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shockingly, there is very little porn. < 1180688650 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, safe search was off) < 1180688666 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that porn doesn't generally use the term "woman" :P < 1180688960 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WATCH THESE ATTRACTIVE WOMEN ENGAGE IN CARNAL RELATIONS WITH PHYSICALLY GIFTED GENTLEMEN!" < 1180689021 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lofl < 1180689280 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laughing ... on the floor ... laughing? < 1180689289 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just lofl < 1180690656 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, i can't stay up all night anymore < 1180690939 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1180693386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : how can you convert monetary winnings into [0, 1] though? <<< 1-1/money < 1180693433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, the rise of gravity for money grows logarithmically over the amount of money. < 1180693460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... a billion might be 10 times better than a million < 1180693604 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it is so even if we assume an infinitely big world where inflation is impossible < 1180693661 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people simply don't see a difference between "one helluva lotta money" and "one thousand helluva lots of money" < 1180693699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i myself, don't really even see a difference between a billion and a million... since i've rarely even had a thousand < 1180704843 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-037-037.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1180717128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180717128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180717129 0 :nuba!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180717129 0 :meatmanek!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1180717304 0 :nuba!n=nuba@hq.imaterial.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1180717340 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1180717352 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly do see the difference between a billion and a million. < 1180717370 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a million is enough to buy a decent but not a very good house. < 1180717377 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there're cars that cost over a million. < 1180717391 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a billion is enough to live the rest of your life without having to worry about money. < 1180717401 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is in dollars, anyway) < 1180717423 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretty significant difference to me :) < 1180717812 0 :meatmanek!n=meatmane@cpe-65-29-79-179.indy.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1180717881 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1180718275 0 :fizzie!n=fis@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1180718557 0 :Izak!n=k@unaffiliated/izak JOIN :#esoteric < 1180719826 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-83-221.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1180720008 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Where, exactly, do you live, Mr. "Million can buy a decent but not very good house"? California? < 1180720399 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: anywhere in the world. < 1180720418 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not really, but certainly anywhere interesting in the states or europe. < 1180720449 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1180720452 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not really true < 1180720464 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the definition of 'very good' varies < 1180720464 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get a really good house for $1mil in most places in the states < 1180720479 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine includes things like location < 1180720483 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends upon where. . . < 1180720485 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :view, neighbourhood, etc < 1180720492 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside of, you know, Manhattan, central LA, etc < 1180720506 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine Silicon Valley is somewhat pricey as well < 1180720510 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want a damned nice house in, say, LA, you're talking a hell of a lot of money. < 1180720515 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: good houses are expensive everywhere. < 1180720522 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Not >$1m expensive, though < 1180720528 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not talking McMansion, i'm talking good house. < 1180720532 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, unless you mean a Mansion or something < 1180720547 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want one out in, say, Colorado Springs, you're talking $1 million as your max. . . < 1180720571 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd prefer to live somewhere on the ocean front < 1180720587 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that *would* add up to >$1 million, then. < 1180720590 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's somewhere to tie the yacht too :) < 1180720595 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously if you tack on "want to live on the beach near a major city" then yeah < 1180720618 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: location is very important. Good locations aren't cheap, and cheap locations normally aren't good. < 1180720625 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good house is in a good location. < 1180720629 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not good otherwise. < 1180720630 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not necessary for most people's definition of "a very good house" though < 1180720633 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1180720638 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I see we disagree on that < 1180720659 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekhmet: you think if i take my good house on the ocean front and move it to antarctica, it remains a good house? < 1180720664 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that location is important, but I take a much broader view < 1180720673 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: That's pretty extreme < 1180720682 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suburb is not a good location, because suburbs just suck. < 1180720687 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: If I take my good house on an ocean front and move it five miles inland, it certainly does < 1180720690 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO anyway < 1180720692 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: The definition of "good location" does vary. < 1180720693 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever, obviously we disagree < 1180720696 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1180720701 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steps out of the conversation < 1180724175 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-54457988.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1180724377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1180725118 0 :Izak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Farewell" < 1180725184 0 :aarcane!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1180726053 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1180727713 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" SimonRC: Thanks, now youv'e got that addicted." <--- me no speech broken English < 1180727734 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Now you got me *addicted*. < 1180727879 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you can win that in about 1/2 hour? < 1180727918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: You highlighted the wrong word X_X < 1180727950 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD. < 1180727966 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Sure. . . If I've got enough of an attention span. < 1180728243 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1180728833 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just finished. < 1180729179 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trippy, man. < 1180729191 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Damned trippy. < 1180729657 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonderfully dark too < 1180729678 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You *did* watch all the cut-scenes, right? < 1180730216 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1180730239 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped over some when I started it back up today, but that was only because I had already seen them. < 1180730533 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1180730712 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get all the trophies? < 1180731267 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-54457988.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1180731271 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLCODE ON MONORAIL < 1180731272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLCODE is a much better language than Ruby, and so we need to work hard to make LOLCODE ON MONORAIL the standard web development language! < 1180731272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE. < 1180731873 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Not yet.. < 1180733259 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches lament in the rich < 1180733460 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1180733760 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : SimonRC: Now you got me *addicted*. <--- addicted to you < 1180733780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: well, i would never buy a big house, just http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-OOGN8YmtE < 1180733804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer living cramped in a corner. < 1180733826 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do? < 1180733833 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not gonna watch videos at work) < 1180733857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :< < 1180733872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do. well, i guess i'd like a big empty storage hall < 1180733903 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would your friends like it when you invite them over? < 1180733926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friends are as insane as i am. < 1180733938 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1180733947 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know how insane i am, of course < 1180733957 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahah work < 1180734032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :school is over \o/ < 1180734049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a scale of 4-10, i got 8 on the integration test < 1180734068 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses a scale of 4-10? < 1180734078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even had a thinking error in one question < 1180734087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :others were copy paste ones < 1180734092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland. < 1180734159 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.improveverywhere.com/2005/12/10/suicide-jumper/ < 1180734213 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, countries with Germanic languages can't do anything that makes sense. < 1180734219 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland has a 4-10 scale. < 1180734221 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1180734229 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :America has an A,B,C,D,F scale. < 1180734237 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 0-100 scale < 1180734254 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A,B,C,D,F is pretty brain-damaged < 1180734272 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, Russia has grades 1-11, but without grade 4 < 1180734294 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :percentiles make sense < 1180734306 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they do. < 1180734321 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but erf is a bitch < 1180734395 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could they please just throw in an "E" to the scale? < 1180734418 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd make me happy. < 1180734423 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1180734442 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e will be added to the scale < 1180734452 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bona. < 1180734458 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with its usual meaning of 2.718281828459.... < 1180734460 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's bona fide < 1180734471 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne. < 1180734641 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1180734661 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think germany used 1-10 < 1180734694 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grades-- < 1180734840 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer a system of pass or dumbass. < 1180734851 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no failure, only being labeled a dumbass. :p < 1180734928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pass/fail, i don't see a need for more < 1180734974 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are moving :( < 1180735797 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1180736140 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`! < 1180736250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i got your language finished more properly, in python < 1180736280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ehird.py < 1180736610 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: finnish is not a germanic language. although swedish, which is, is also an official language in finland. < 1180736688 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1180736841 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also quite commonly use the scale 0-5 in establishments of higher education, like universities and such. < 1180736872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1180736873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was in junior highschool the grades were LG,NG,G,M(G),S(G). In senior high school they were 0-6. In university they were 1.0-4.0, although the universities now have changed to an A-F system. < 1180736896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(norway) < 1180736989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(G meaning "good", with an appropriate adverb) < 1180737042 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the very first three or so years of school (age: 7-9 years or so) our school used the grades "H", "K" and "L" (descending order), with the letters meaning: "H" -> "hyvä" ('good'), "K" -> "kaipaa lisäharjoitusta" ('more practice required', basically) and "L" -> "kaipaa runsaasti lisäharjoitusta" ('a lot more practice required'). < 1180737095 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really understood why exactly the latter two were named "K" and "L". Especially the "L" makes no sense, since the only word it could come from ("lisäharjoitus") appears in both grades. < 1180737138 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was only for the first two years, not three. < 1180737144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes. in the first 6 years we had essentially "satisfactory" and "could improve". no abbreviation that i recall. < 1180737156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, pretty much nothing makes sence outside math and programming. < 1180737181 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my school there was no grading before 4th grade :< < 1180737299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the L is somewhat like G in our system then. < 1180737333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think our "exams" (were there any?) or other work was graded during the HKL years, but those letters appeared in the semiannual certificate-given-at-the-end-of-study-term papers. < 1180737342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1180737344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed they did < 1180737358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, as if i could remember anything beyond yesterday < 1180737359 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same in norway < 1180737386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was a common practice? For some reason I thought the silliness was limited to my particular school. < 1180737395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like i remember that much from my school years... < 1180737474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually we had 3 different SMILEYS. < 1180737523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's worse. < 1180737545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya :P < 1180737594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this year we will present your grades in the form of an interpretive dance" < 1180738799 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1180738833 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ehird` guy is _really_ hard to get in touch with...