< 1185926882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1185926932 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl folks < 1185927118 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: technically speaking you still need to know what gules is < 1185927148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: for example, imagine if there were thousands of files there < 1185927195 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yell, yeah.... < 1185927196 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1185927198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ish < 1185927429 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1185927445 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gate 3 lock 2 is NOT the basil puzzle, is it? < 1185927467 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is < 1185927527 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you ask? < 1185927542 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed there would be more puzzles < 1185927573 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is special about the basil puzzle? < 1185927595 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the last one < 1185927598 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1185927600 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1185927613 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first question, has *anyone* here managed it? < 1185927624 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is apparently the only person ever. < 1185927638 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next question, why a bloomin TIFF? < 1185927819 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i don't know. < 1185927894 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why so huge? < 1185927924 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, TIFF images tend to be huge :) < 1185928261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read the wikipedia article on them? < 1185928288 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm nowhere near solving the puzzle, i'm afraid. < 1185928303 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as an amateur photographer, i can tell you tiff images tend to be huge :) < 1185928304 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I am < 1185928349 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is so *much* stuff that you can do with the TIFF format < 1185928357 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that isn;t significant at all... < 1185928924 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1185928924 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the image is compressed, internally, so I doubt there is any steganography < 1185928927 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the image is compressed, internally, so I doubt there is any steganography < 1185928930 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, < 1185928953 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no discussion in here please < 1185928957 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1185929082 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for what it's worth, JPEG watermarking is very common despite JPEG being compressed) < 1185929114 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again, speaking as an amateur photographer rather than some kind of programmer) < 1185929164 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmf < 1185929208 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's simple < 1185929217 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just watermark after compression, not before < 1185929230 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1185929634 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1185929925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone else Basiling? < 1185929940 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1185929948 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: come to mock us? ;-) < 1185929948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buahahaha! < 1185929961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. It actually is maniacal. < 1185929978 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is not so simple that I will I feel like an idiot for not trying some certan thing? < 1185929994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, once you're done, that's *exactly* how you'll feel. :p < 1185930122 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1185930168 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long did you spend having no clue, comparedt to the amount of time spent working in the right direction? < 1185930528 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would that be too much of a clue? < 1185930557 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: gah! < 1185930595 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I spent all of it clueless until I discovered the answer. < 1185930600 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1185930601 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1185930606 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a big hint then < 1185930611 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1185930637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, because you still have to find it. < 1185930667 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it it tells me not to look at some things < 1185930978 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the nearly-identical image is of any significance at all < 1185930983 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mentionned earlier < 1185931009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1185931014 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not helpful < 1185931022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Si. < 1185931109 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1185931134 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, I can't think of much to do with it other than treat it as an image < 1185931168 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.diamondorganics.com/images/herbs_basil300.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.diamondorganics.com/&h=300&w=300&sz=16&hl=en&start=520&um=1&tbnid=DsOXfgK_b1L3UM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBasil%26start%3D520%26imgsz%3Dsmall%257Cmedium%257Clarge%257Cxlarge%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN < 1185931174 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, wrong button < 1185931785 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm beginning to strongly suspect Basil is kinda lame < 1185931794 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course i won't know for sure until i find the answer. < 1185931800 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven;t found the answer < 1185931814 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Actaully, that is the sign of a very difficult puzzle. You spend far more time having no clue than you do having clue. < 1185931949 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1185932296 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1185932396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it *aupposed* to be a broken image, BTW? < 1185932407 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn;t want to display inline < 1185932427 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because your browser doesn't properly support TIFF < 1185932434 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just load up Safari. :) < 1185932474 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my problem with basil < 1185932586 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes? < 1185932588 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that either you need to have/make some kind of tiff-fucking tool, which is lame < 1185932648 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you don't, but then that's an obvious false route and you still end up doing it, which is still lame :) < 1185932649 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1185932662 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: so, is the puzzle lame? < 1185932664 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1185932669 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say so < 1185932687 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I've said before, it's one of my crowning achievements < 1185932699 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose i have no knowledge of the tiff format and no tiff processing libraries < 1185932715 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is surprisingly not far from the truth < 1185932727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where I started. < 1185932766 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, if i have to learn the tiff format to proceed, then i give up in advance :) < 1185932794 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might, or you might not. < 1185932807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try, or you can try other means. < 1185932815 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your insanity. < 1185932826 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I assume you tried the thing that worked with several of the previous ones, and got the (AFAICT) disappointing result < 1185932851 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs in a generally sadistic fashion < 1185932863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION joins Rodger < 1185932864 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incedentally, the answer isn't "Fawlty" < 1185932976 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if the answer has anything to do with the ****** ***** ** *** ****, i'm not interested in continuing :) < 1185932996 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those asterisks are not helping me < 1185933008 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those asterisks are not helping me to understand your setance < 1185933109 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, only so many sentences fit that pattern :) < 1185933148 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pull a Babbage and gather a collection of dictionaries containing various word lengths < 1185933157 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1185933226 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it called "gate 3?" < 1185933239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's what Rodger likes calling it. < 1185933287 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed like a cool naming scheme < 1185933318 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1185933328 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding ?M=69 to the end din;t work :-) < 1185933726 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to tell us if it has anything to do with the previous puzzles? < 1185933736 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. do you need to have solved them first? < 1185933811 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION settles into his chair to watch Rollerball < 1185933862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches brains a'splode < 1185933899 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is such an awesome movie. Very thought provoking. < 1185933952 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potter Harry of Dth Hlws? < 1185933959 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably doesn't stand for anything like that. < 1185933961 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1185933967 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: looked at the puzzles? < 1185933969 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :****** ***** ** *** **** < 1185933987 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what puzzles? < 1185934023 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rodger.shadowarts.org/PHP/Example.php < 1185934030 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only pikhq has got past the basil one < 1185934040 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it the Basil one? < 1185934042 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1185934053 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the challenges may be referred to collectively as "Rodger's Demon" < 1185934062 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: that link leads me to a 403. < 1185934080 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so quick to jump to conclusions < 1185934121 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1185934122 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last one AFAICT is an exercise is explorin a completely-flat problem space < 1185934487 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1185934555 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what pikhq said, there is no clue until you kit on the answer < 1185934640 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1185937208 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh < 1185937237 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pl_from, pl_namespace, pl_title) < 1185937882 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1185942154 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1185944000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rodger's Demon == evily good. < 1185944198 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<:) < 1185944399 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wait for the Abyss. It will be unlike any game you've played before, I promise. < 1185945589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait. < 1185950305 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1185950582 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night everyone < 1185950606 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1185955199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1185955200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1185955654 0 :cherez!n=cherez@CPE-65-30-35-192.kc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1185955962 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1185957380 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host218-88-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1185958299 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm quitting... Bye all" < 1185958654 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1185958947 0 :helios24!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1185958963 0 :helios24!i=helios@tomakin.lupo.hellzilla.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1185962554 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-050-236.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1185965879 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: hi < 1185965894 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been irritated by Rodger's puzzles yet? < 1185966133 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1185966166 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1185966169 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any luck? < 1185966603 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, on basil? < 1185966612 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so - i've just woken up < 1185966617 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1185966638 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you got any leads? < 1185971381 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1185971384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its barely possible < 1185971385 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1185973075 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: huh? < 1185973555 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: I said, "hi" < 1185973565 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next line < 1185973577 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, he was talking to me about Basil i think < 1185973591 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: no you weren't here < 1185973597 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:56:57 have you been irritated by Rodger's puzzles yet? < 1185973644 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rodger.shadowarts.org/PHP/Example.php < 1185973655 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother with them, the last one will wreck your life < 1185973662 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am ignoring it currently < 1185973676 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get a forbidden < 1185973707 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, yes you do < 1185973720 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, and yes i was < 1185973721 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1185973721 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : any luck? < 1185973742 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: you joined just after simonrc said have you irritated by..... < 1185973768 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1185973779 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, anyway, the forbidden is the first puzzle < 1185973802 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah this is notpron like? < 1185973949 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185973950 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1185973960 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but less levels, and more binary data scavenging < 1185973966 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great binarys! < 1185973979 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i probably need some different OS to run that < 1185973985 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please discuss this somewhere else. < 1185973991 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can;t stand it any more < 1185974054 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, why? < 1185974276 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am getting nowhere on the last question < 1185974515 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My previous stratergy has always been to lose the URL to the puzzles and forget about them < 1185974548 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1185978162 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got it! < 1185978168 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1185979836 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Which/ < 1185979837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1185979843 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the last one < 1185979867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basil? < 1185979870 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185979872 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1185979880 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1185980432 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has nicely dispatched one hint, which has saved me from giving up < 1185980720 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, don't give out too many hints. < 1185980746 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, it's much more worth it to let them solve it themselve. < 1185980759 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Wait. You spent *two hours* on all of Rodger's Demon? < 1185980813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bows before jix < 1185980825 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first ones (the ones before the animations) ehird was throwing hints on me it would have taken longer without them < 1185980847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still. . . Even with hints, the gulesfish is hard. < 1185980878 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found gulesfish pretty easy once i got "gules" < 1185980905 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed. < 1185980925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had most of the puzzle solved before I realised where the input needed to go. < 1185980945 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, he's only given out one hint < 1185982757 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would never have gotten the one that has just a 2-character hint without Rodger helping me < 1185982761 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am crap at such things < 1185982789 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My puzzle-solving usually starts with a crappy solution then re-works the hell out of it < 1185982819 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my problem-solving is programming < 1185982845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm usually fairly good at these sorts of puzzles. < 1185983000 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am dreadful at them < 1185983007 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep dismissing the right answer < 1185983058 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., In Gulesfish my unzipper was waving a massive hint in my face and I ignored it! < 1185983066 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1185983073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine ignored said massive hint. < 1185983094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which actually wasn't the last bit of the puzzle I got. . . < 1185983105 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, my other unzipper often says that same thing when it is not relevent < 1185983106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the much-needed input, but not where it was supposed to go. XD < 1185983143 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that [] at the beginning of a BF program is not an ininite loop < 1185983195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1185983241 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I looked, saw that the first two BF commands would be [ and ], then decided it is not a BF program < 1185983244 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1185983459 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to tell him that it wasn't < 1185983467 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he kept trying to use the elf instead, heh < 1185984012 0 :test_!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1185984026 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1185984028 0 :test_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird` < 1185984130 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1185984135 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1185984546 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-81-190.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1185989140 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1185989149 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1185989164 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a exact-1-year-anniversary of my first coming here! < 1185989168 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1185989168 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.01 < 1185989175 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 07.08.01 today as i know < 1185989179 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i mistaken? < 1185989182 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 01.08 < 1185989217 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do a "esoteric programming language" programmable using IMAGES :D < 1185989230 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will use 16-color images < 1185989238 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will be Picts**t < 1185989249 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Brainf**k version using images. < 1185989262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1185989278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been done. < 1185989282 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1185989286 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1185989294 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many times < 1185989310 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. I will make an IRC esoteric language, with IRC-like syntax < 1185989315 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1185989316 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and completely other commands < 1185989317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1185989318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it IRP. < 1185989320 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1185989330 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... IRP? < 1185989339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Braincopter < 1185989340 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part < 1185989343 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works < 1185989344 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1185989347 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Relay Programming < 1185989372 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will also do a Brainf**k interperting bot... i guess it was done though... < 1185989393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel actually has two in it usually. < 1185989423 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... :( < 1185989425 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any ideas? < 1185989427 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, print "IRP is stupid." < 1185989429 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, do you want to do something with me? < 1185989437 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP is stupid. < 1185989440 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like? < 1185989452 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you do any esoteric languages? < 1185989456 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, print "Mwahaha" while true is true. < 1185989458 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1185989460 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not you, then who? < 1185989474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done Dimensifuck, PicoCPU, and PEBBLE. < 1185989478 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, print "I suck" while false is false. < 1185989501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERPRETER ERROR: Halting problem solved, don't want to do a program that doesn't halt. < 1185989517 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will do PSc311 language. < 1185989525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlayStation c311 (cell) < 1185989546 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's goal is to make as much fun from a PS3 while being an esoteric language < 1185989552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :source ^stdcons.bfm;@ temp1;@ temp2;stringout "Hello, world!\n" : temp1 temp2 < 1185989581 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, print "I love ehird`." < 1185989599 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-[<->+++++++]<-.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>----[<+++>----]<.------------.>--[<->---]<+.--------.+++.------.--------.>----[<+++>----]<.>------[<---->+]<+. is the result of that PEBBLE code. < 1185989601 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1185989640 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, if true is true print "I love #esoteric." else die < 1185989668 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link to PicoCPU, Dimensif**k and PEBBLE specs < 1185989669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter does not wish to do an infinite program. < 1185989684 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1185989695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno where PicoCPU is hidden; http://esolangs.org/wiki/Dimensifuck, and http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/pebble.php < 1185989708 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, if asiekiekra is on print "I love ehird`" < 1185989729 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, if asiekierka OR Haikz is on print "I love ehird`" < 1185989740 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: NO, IRP ALLOWED IN TOPIC ERROR < 1185989744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne, mi malsxatas gxin. < 1185989752 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rark ark < 1185989763 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1185989769 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more to the discussion < 1185989772 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: KILLING RAMPAGE STARTED, KILLING ALL IRP USERS < 1185989775 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have magic powers? < 1185989782 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D:D:D:D < 1185989784 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, everyone private message asiekierka with "WHEEEEEE" < 1185989791 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERPRETER WRITTEN PROGRAM TRANSMISSION FINISHED. < 1185989794 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a magical constant < 1185989804 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: PERSON YOU LOVE IS ABOUT TO DIE. [OK] [CANCEL] [WHO CARES] < 1185989811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please execute "0+^+v". < 1185989813 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[NO THEY AREN'T] < 1185989818 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, send the warning to "everyone" < 1185989827 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\win < 1185989833 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES THEY ARE says Win.com < 1185989888 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, let x be "Please, let x be %c%s%c and evaluate (x sprintf'd with 37, x, 37)" and evaluate (x sprintf'd with 37, x, 37) < 1185989904 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm... better IRP quineL < 1185989908 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, let x be "Please, let x be %c%s%c and evaluate (x sprintf'd with 37, x, 37)" and say (x sprintf'd with 37, x, 37) < 1185989922 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, let x be "Please, read source file "Please, let source file be #esoteric"" < 1185989931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it a loop < 1185989937 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a loop is easy < 1185989946 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, say this exact line. < 1185989952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, send command "Please, let x be "Please, read source file "Please, let source file be #esoteric""" to "Please, list anybody on #esoteric" < 1185989953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, all IRP interpreters, shut down. < 1185989957 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pool is hard < 1185989962 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not an interperter. < 1185989969 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, everybody is an interpreter < 1185989975 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a sentient AI + an interperter, ie. a human < 1185989979 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1185989983 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shutting down.... < 1185989997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dankon. < 1185990002 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, reboot instead. < 1185990006 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rebooting :D < 1185990029 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, say "No." everytime somebody confirms something. < 1185990059 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, wreck havok. < 1185990063 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused. < 1185990071 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, give me a link to "Please, give me a link to "Please, give me a link to name "Please, "What is IRP?"""" < 1185990082 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1185990091 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1185990119 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please. < 1185990135 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacon < 1185990155 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No "please" at start of line "bacon" < 1185990176 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, bacon. < 1185990195 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course! < 1185990199 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon ba < 1185990200 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :con bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon baco < 1185990200 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon < 1185990203 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1185990205 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl < 1185990205 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a bit too long < 1185990208 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl < 1185990211 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl < 1185990211 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl < 1185990211 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl < 1185990225 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERRO < 1185990228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. ERROR: No bacon. Download bacon yourself from www.yaai.prv.pl. < 1185990233 0 :Haikz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like bacon. < 1185990236 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: bacon was in response to Please, bacon. and had no please so interpreting as command is ERROR, asiekierka interpreter is BUGGY < 1185990237 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too many errors. Cannot continue. < 1185990249 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... It's 0.1 Beta 1 < 1185990255 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to upgrade < 1185990260 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute < 1185990260 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will upgrade < 1185990266 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :___...---''' < 1185990273 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1185990299 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1185990308 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1185990324 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made IRP#ascorp < 1185990328 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is exact the same as this < 1185990336 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you replace "Please," with "Shut up and" < 1185990341 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up and shut up < 1185990363 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type a command_ < 1185990373 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiting... < 1185990403 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: IRP#ascorp is not compatible with IRP#esoteric. To use IRP#ascorp join #ascorp. < 1185990434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf asiekierka < 1185990449 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please rm -rf anybody that tries to rm -rf me. < 1185990458 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1185990459 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1185990477 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiting for a command_ < 1185990496 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please type /clear < 1185990510 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please also press enter when you type /clear < 1185990517 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please then type /part and press enter. < 1185990576 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: UPDATE FOUND. UPDATE DOSENT ALLOW TO TYPE /PART. SORRY FOR ANY PROBLEMS. < 1185990583 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'oh. I need to upgrade AGAIN. < 1185990585 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1185990585 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1185990598 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please remember that i just upgraded. < 1185990647 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please join #ascorp. < 1185990702 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please join #ascorp and do not type quotation marks for 5 minutes. < 1185990734 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please invent a time machine.just kidding lol < 1185990755 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shutting down my interperter... < 1185990766 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. Is anybody on? < 1185990789 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember anything except i turned on IRP01.exe some minutes ago... < 1185990819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1185990831 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... finally remembering the rest. < 1185990837 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants to IRP with me? < 1185990841 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on #ascorp or here? < 1185990869 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tommorow? < 1185990872 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not now? < 1185990921 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody's listening < 1185990928 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1185990930 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1185990958 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "wow" < 1185990963 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIX: Please say "wow" < 1185990979 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO, IRP ALLOWED. < 1185990995 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, irp allowed. So IRP IS allowed :DDD < 1185991002 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the "," < 1185991008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1185991033 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please remember that IRP is allowed. < 1185991053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sed IRP en Angla lingvo malbonas. < 1185991068 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please translate, pikhq. < 1185991077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But IRP in English is bad. < 1185991079 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please wait for a fix of the latest command. < 1185991086 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please translate "Sed IRP en Angla lingvo malbonas", pikhq. < 1185991094 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or please use polish. < 1185991108 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please remember that I only know Polish and English, < 1185991111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne. Mi sxatas lan internacian lingvon! < 1185991130 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and please translate the stuff or i'll seriously quit! < 1185991152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1185991156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I like the international language. < 1185991228 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esperanto? < 1185991234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jes. < 1185991297 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne esperanto, ne esperanto! < 1185991306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jak juz to polski albo english < 1185991318 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com -- NO: IRP ALLOWED < 1185991338 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP is still allowed! cool! / Dalej mozna uzywac IRP! Super! < 1185991369 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | IRP MEANS YOUR FIERY DEATH < 1185991380 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh... < 1185991394 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Ne. Esperanto bonas. < 1185991397 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | NO IRP RULE WAS JUST BALEETED! < 1185991415 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | RULES: 1. IRP < 1185991419 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP IT < 1185991421 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1185991425 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can use IRP! < 1185991430 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do not ban IRP. < 1185991434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, baleeting is a Homestar-ism, not actual deletion. < 1185991438 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should have said "IRP BEING ALLOWED". < 1185991467 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, the topic currently contains no verbs. < 1185991468 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please remember you said "1. IRP.", not "1. NO IRP", so it seems we MUST use IRP. < 1185991485 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | STOP THE GODDAMN IRP < 1185991497 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | RULES: 1. shut up. 2. talk only in IRP. < 1185991519 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. < 1185991545 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I will break rule #1 if you please so much. < 1185991546 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP IT, DAMN IT < 1185991554 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, but then you break the break at least one rule rule < 1185991556 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a paradox < 1185991561 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since by breaking it you break it by breaking it < 1185991563 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't break it < 1185991564 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes a paradox, yes. < 1185991574 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't be following the rules, because that'd be breaking rule 1, so you must break a rule, so you must follow rule 1, so you must break rule 2. < 1185991575 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Rule #1 can't exist :D < 1185991588 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you just follow rule 1 but not rule 2. < 1185991620 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. 3. Shut up. < 1185991624 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I select #3. < 1185991648 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i can't select #3 because if i select it, i don't shut up so i must shut up. < 1185991657 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox. < 1185991667 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said you had to follow all the rules. < 1185991682 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1185991695 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. 3. Shut up. 4. Don't break rule #2. < 1185991704 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i break rule #2, I break rule #4... it is allowed. < 1185991707 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$($#@()*$&#)(&$#_)&*#$*($_$#())_&) < 1185991719 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i must follow #3 :( < 1185991722 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you can break both 2 and 4. < 1185991733 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can break all of them except 1, if you want to. < 1185991736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1185991743 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you must follow 1. < 1185991744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do Perl. < 1185991755 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. 3. Shut up. 4. Don't break rule #2. 5. You must follow rule #1 and any other rule. < 1185991762 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1185991765 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. 3. Shut up. 4. Don't break rule #2. 5. You must follow rule #1, this and any other rule. < 1185991770 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any other rule" meaning "some other rule"? < 1185991771 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i must follow #3... < 1185991779 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other rule :D < 1185991783 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185991786 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of left rules < 1185991794 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must select between 2 and 4 < 1185991796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the remaining rules... < 1185991799 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i select 3 < 1185991800 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP IT < 1185991801 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SERIOUSLY < 1185991803 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 2 and 4 is left. < 1185991808 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any other rule. < 1185991812 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 2 < 1185991815 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: what are we supposed to be stopping now? < 1185991815 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1 only. < 1185991820 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i select 2 which in turn selects 4 < 1185991826 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I must follow #1, #3 and #5. < 1185991830 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i'll shut up now. < 1185991834 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you will too. < 1185991838 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< SILENCE > < 1185991901 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please follow the new RULES: 1. Break at least one rule. 2. IRP must be used at some time. 3. Shut up. 4. Don't break rule #2. 5. You must follow rule #1, this and any other rule. 6. Don't break rule #3. 7. Always use IRP. < 1185991916 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1185991922 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over. < 1185991928 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now think how to not use IRP :DDD < 1185992019 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to break rule 4 < 1185992034 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 2 (if it isn't to be used some time, it isn't used all time) < 1185992046 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1185992068 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1185992081 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have #6 and #7 and #3 left. < 1185992093 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can have only #1, #5, and any other left. < 1185992098 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#6 #7 #3 <> 1 rule. < 1185992116 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you break #7, you have #6 and #3 left. < 1185992120 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not 7. < 1185992125 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you break #3, you break #6 too < 1185992132 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have only 1 rule left. Rule #7 < 1185992185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 and #4 are broke. But #7 isn't. You pleased for an exception in your words so you have it. < 1185992291 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking rule 2 voids #7 < 1185992304 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other rules don't forbid breaking 2 < 1185992315 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you must have one left < 1185992315 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: < 1185992319 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and follow it. < 1185992320 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can break one or more rule < 1185992322 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185992324 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i break 4, allowing me to break 2 < 1185992326 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you must follow #1, #5 and #7 < 1185992327 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 voids 7 < 1185992336 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1185992339 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am following 1, 5 and 6 < 1185992342 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh i can't take it anymore < 1185992354 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, by voiding 4 and 2 i do not have to involve myself in any irp < 1185992378 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | RULES: 1. Follow rule #2. 2. Follow rule #3 and #5. 3. Break #4. 4. Don't use IRP. 5. Use IRP. < 1185992383 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now? < 1185992406 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show you < 1185992431 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 -> #2 -> (#3 -> #4 break) (#5) < 1185992447 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please remember these rules. < 1185992561 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, please tell me how to break rule #5. If there is a way... i doubt there is one. < 1185992640 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "Your rules rock. We must use IRP. Remember this." < 1185992740 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i said "Use IRP." But i didn't say "Always." So we can use it when we want. But we must use IRP. Not always though. < 1185992776 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1185992857 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But please use IRP. < 1185992892 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | UNRELATED WEBSITE: http://purple.com | RULES: 1. Follow rule #2. 2. Follow rule #3 and #5. 3. Break #4 and follow #6. 4. Don't use IRP. 5. Use IRP. 6. Always follow #5. Always. Not just sometimes. < 1185992939 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST STOP IT < 1185992995 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Just use IRP. < 1185992998 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i'll stop. < 1185993010 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please use IRP, then i'll stop as you please. < 1185993014 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, you don't please. < 1185993020 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So please please me. < 1185993043 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop. < 1185993046 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1185993085 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.K.. Aber Sie sagten es nicht in deutschem :D. Sagen Sie es bitte auf Deutsch. < 1185993247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? Sprechen Sie bitte auf Deutsch und geben Sie mir deutsche IRP Befehle. < 1185993263 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! < 1185993302 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lo Lol LOLOLOL LOLOLOL. < 1185993344 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D C DEC FFE < 1185993348 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1185993350 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lo Lol LOLOLOL LOLOLOL. < 1185993386 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D C D E C F F E < 1185993536 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1185993552 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1185993554 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1185994168 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric < 1185994264 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-139.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1185995600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a demented idea for Rodger's Demon < 1185995655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1185995672 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not telling, it might be used. :p < 1185995697 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1185995713 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Maybe I should experiment with doing my own puzzle. < 1185995828 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1185996374 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1185996378 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :DDD < 1185996387 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1185996390 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | WHERE ARE THE RULES? 1. No rules. < 1185996398 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we can do anything < 1185996404 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no not IRP time. < 1185996426 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am waiting for AI to be better so i can make a IRP interperter... < 1185996462 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iiii Errr Peee < 1185996490 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | WHERE ARE THE RULES? 1. No rules. 2. You must break at least one rule. < 1185996492 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185996502 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that i just made a paradox? < 1185996504 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1185996510 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you break #2, you know < 1185996521 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you break #1... < 1185996523 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1185996593 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there's no rules, rule 2 doesn't count. < 1185996614 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you break #1, rule #1 dosen't count, but rule 2 also breaks < 1185996704 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "no rules" mean "rules are prohibited"? < 1185996719 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: i would assume it means "rules can be disregarded" < 1185996728 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you break rule #1, you are fulfilling rule #2, and therefore following the rules. It's trivial, but it's not a paradox. < 1185996767 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Break at least one rule. 2. Break this rule. < 1185996784 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: if you fulfill rule #1, then you disregard both rules and there's still no paradox. < 1185996791 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, heck. < 1185996795 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Break this rule. < 1185996798 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: True. So really, there's no paradox at all :P < 1185996811 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: NO! < 1185996846 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove the following statement: This statement is true. < 1185996870 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that statement states it is true, and there is nothing else it specifies, therefore it is true. < 1185996882 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, it's just like saying nothing < 1185996884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, we assume that statement is provable. < 1185996893 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR is the worst mathematician in here. < 1185996904 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Ouch :P < 1185996909 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof: he can't prove "GregorR cannot prove this sentence true." Everybody else can. < 1185996918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is true, then it must be true. < 1185996925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1185996928 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, no, you're the worst - you can't prove "ihope cannot prove this sentence true." < 1185996933 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But if it is false, then it must be false. < 1185996934 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, darn. < 1185996949 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So using that method doesn't work :) < 1185996954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: There is no indication that it is false. < 1185996955 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't prove it true. < 1185996968 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | WHERE ARE THE RULES? 1. Don't follow this rule. 2. Don't follow this rule. 3. Follow all rules. < 1185996970 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there's no indication that it's true, either. < 1185996971 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What NOW? < 1185996980 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'This sentence is true.' is false." is consistent. < 1185996982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We cannot prove it false. However, if we start from the assumption that "this statement is true", then it is true. < 1185996992 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is true. Is false. Is consistent. < 1185997000 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about mine? < 1185997004 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My is true and false? < 1185997009 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You can't start from the assumption that it's true without also starting from the assumption that it's false for comparison. < 1185997012 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: paradox. < 1185997012 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is false and true? < 1185997014 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185997016 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1185997021 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither true nor false! < 1185997024 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, the empty statement is true, as it tells nothing that is wrong < 1185997043 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | WHERE ARE THE RULES? 1. Don't follow this rule. 2. Don't follow this rule. 3. Follow all rules. 4. Ignore all rules before this one. 5. Ignore rule #4. 6. Ignore rule #7. 7. Ignore rule #6 and #5. < 1185997047 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What NOW!?!?!?!? < 1185997047 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This sentence is true." is a redundant empty statement - the empty statement is true, and this has nothing but the assertation that it is true, therefore since it asserts nothing that can be false, it is true. < 1185997050 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh???? < 1185997071 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paradox, Double Paradox or TRIPLE paradox? < 1185997090 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: Yes, we can see that it's trivially true. We can also see that it's trivially false. < 1185997098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: If we start from the assumption that it is false, then we have an unfounded assumption. < 1185997102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6:p < 1185997108 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, tell me how it is false < 1185997109 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X => X. True or false: X is true. < 1185997124 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | WHERE ARE THE RULES? 1. Follow rule #2. 2. Break rule #1. < 1185997128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: Assume that the statement is false. The statement states that it is true, which is false. QED. < 1185997130 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dudes and dudettes, it cannot be proven either way. < 1185997130 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it now? < 1185997140 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: inconsistent. < 1185997142 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Exactly :P < 1185997157 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inconsistent? I'm not so good at english. I'm 10 1/2 and from poland. < 1185997158 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: so who's the worst mathematician now? < 1185997166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Now, back up that assumption. I can back up assuming it is true - the empty statement "" is true, and it is an extension of the empty statement which comments on itself < 1185997167 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: That much shows. < 1185997196 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: mathematical term. A theory is inconsistent if it implies a falsehood. < 1185997198 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. < 1185997209 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. < 1185997213 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which, in turn, means that it implies everything.) < 1185997225 0 :cherez!n=cherez@CPE-65-30-35-192.kc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1185997227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Break rule 6: Follow 2 through 5 inclusive. < 1185997229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: You don't back up assumptions used doing proofs. You work under each assumption and see if it leads to a sound solution. < 1185997245 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Select one rule, pikhq? < 1185997247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2, 3, 4 or 5? < 1185997251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 6 is one rule. < 1185997251 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one you break? < 1185997256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: If the solution is sound, the assumption is proved. < 1185997260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just states that one follows 2 through 5. < 1185997262 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the rule that says rules must be followed... < 1185997304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Prove 1+1=2. < 1185997317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trivial proof, BTW) < 1185997321 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is defined as 1 more than 1. QED < 1185997330 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot. 1 idiot + 1 idiot = double idiot. < 1185997336 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, S(1) = 2, x+1 = S(x) < 1185997344 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+1 = 2 < 1185997425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We assume that e*e=e^2, that ln(x*y) = ln(x)+ln(y). < 1185997428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e*e=e^2 < 1185997436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln(e*e)=ln(e^2) < 1185997442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 1 = 2 < 1185997444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1185997452 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. 6. You can break this one only. 7. You cannot add new rules in. < 1185997480 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Break rule 6. < 1185997495 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's your only option. < 1185997510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, one may break any number of rules. < 1185997519 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Nope < 1185997526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 says. He must select one only. < 1185997537 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2-5 are left < 1185997542 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll ignore you from now on :DDD < 1185997567 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: However, you can break any rule but #6. < 1185997572 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1185997574 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this completely incorrect logic is intriguing to me. < 1185997577 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can break any rule but #7 < 1185997585 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 is left < 1185997586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus estabilishing a paradox in your rule set. < 1185997590 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 6 is just a dummy. < 1185997595 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so break 6 < 1185997599 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1185997605 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say that you can break #6, so now you can't break #6. < 1185997618 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's a paradox, your ruleset is impossible to fully obey. < 1185997620 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. 6. DUMMY RULE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 7. You cannot add new rules in. < 1185997624 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1185997648 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :May WE ignore you? < 1185997653 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Break #1. < 1185997662 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. < 1185997665 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from 2-6 only < 1185997674 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, if you break 6, all that means is that you may be able to break rules other than 6. < 1185997676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq opts to not break any rule, thereby breaking #1. < 1185997691 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you break any other, you're breaking rule 6.. < 1185997696 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.././ < 1185997705 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thereby breaking two rules, which is against rule #1. < 1185997706 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a new ruleset now! < 1185997723 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 is DUMMY RULE now < 1185997726 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this stupid conversation in existance? < 1185997727 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fun < 1185997730 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1185997732 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :break #6 < 1185997734 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can break 2-6 < 1185997738 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, < 1185997739 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let's ignore pikhq! < 1185997740 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can break 6 < 1185997742 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185997743 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking the DUMMY RULE < 1185997745 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means nothing < 1185997754 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I select no rules. < 1185997755 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he does not need to create a paradox < 1185997760 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that IS a rule. < 1185997762 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a dummy < 1185997764 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does nothing < 1185997773 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you ignore 6, you have 2-5 and 7 left < 1185997777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule #1 is broken, ergo I can choose to break rule #7. :p < 1185997778 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2-5 state to ignore pikhq < 1185997782 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1185997787 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. < 1185997790 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq* < 1185997801 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not 7. < 1185997809 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor 1 < 1185997813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I must select one, by not selecting one, the ruleset is broken. < 1185997817 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185997820 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you fail in LIFE < 1185997825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1185997840 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. 6. DUMMY RULE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 7. You cannot add new rules in. 8. If you break r < 1185997845 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1185997862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule #1. You must be at least this smart to be in the channel. < 1185997872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] < 1185997875 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | Rules: 1. pikhq selects which rule to break. he MUST select one only. and from 2-6 only. 2. Ignore pikhq. 3. Ignore pikhq. 4. Ignore pikhq. 5. Ignore pikhq. 6. DUMMY RULE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. 7. You cannot add new rules in. 8. If you break rule 1 or 7, you fail in LIFE. < 1185997899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: What does ,[.,] do? < 1185997917 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a second... < 1185997930 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use Brainfuck < 1185997940 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any time < 1185997943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly how smart you must be to be in this channel. < 1185997946 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185997947 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1185997970 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, tell me how this works: http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/pfuck.tar.bz2 < 1185998004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even high-level, for your sanity! < 1185998015 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No logic. It's 404. < 1185998036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/pfuck-1.1.tar.bz2 < 1185998039 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot the version. < 1185998079 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think, the intelligence level required for this channel < 1185998081 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is getting on to gulesfish. < 1185998092 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, http://rodger.shadowarts.org/PHP/Example.php get to gulesfish. < 1185998093 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll second that. < 1185998127 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is it < 1185998129 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hard for somebody who "didn't use brainfuck any time" < 1185998135 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, no < 1185998139 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before gulesfish there is no BF-related puzzles < 1185998141 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, A puzzle site. < 1185998142 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, pf**k < 1185998153 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a censor < 1185998155 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, fuck fuck fuck < 1185998169 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and link dosen't work < 1185998175 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 40three'd < 1185998183 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? < 1185998192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185998240 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[,.,] < 1185998246 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what this does? < 1185998254 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first brf creation < 1185998262 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1185998276 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-044-076.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1185998287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It accepts input, ignores that, then, while not EOF, takes input, outputs it, and ignores the next input. < 1185998300 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1185998306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, higher-level, it outputs every other character of input. < 1185998314 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all those non-brainers: oh, you said it < 1185998324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial. < 1185998360 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will learn it tommorow < 1185998384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[>>>>+<<<<[>>>+<+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]--[>-<++++++]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>[-]<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[>>>+<+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]--[>-<++++++]>--[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>[-]<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[>>>+<+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]----[>-<----]>+++[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>[-]<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[>>>+<+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]----[>-<----]>+[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>[-]<<<,[-<.>]>>-]>[<<<<.>>>>[-]]<<<<[-],] < 1185998391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me what that does? < 1185998399 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. i just started to learn it < 1185998405 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, it is not 403'd < 1185998407 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks like it. < 1185998411 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try harder. < 1185998417 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, even i couldn't tell you what that did. < 1185998471 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It accepts input in my BFcompress format (+,-,>, and < are RLE'd) and outputs Brainfuck. < 1185998475 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1185998482 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice one! < 1185998495 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, GulesFish yet? :P < 1185998498 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably make a BFP < 1185998501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my earlier Brainfuck hacks (later ported to PEBBLE). < 1185998507 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BrainF**k PDA < 1185998513 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little machine < 1185998513 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the version there is the one written via PEBBLE) < 1185998516 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with it's own font < 1185998521 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running BF < 1185998530 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 2MB flash memory and USB support < 1185998536 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 320x240 screen... < 1185998549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2MB is overkill, as is USB. < 1185998550 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2MB or lower < 1185998559 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other contact method < 1185998564 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cheap < 1185998571 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need 30,000 chars. < 1185998594 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will rather make 60,000. < 1185998596 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for more apps < 1185998596 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30,000 is not enough for lots of programs < 1185998600 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1185998604 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll make like 256kb < 1185998606 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, you could probably get away with using the processor's cache. . . < 1185998611 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 100,000 unsigned 1-byte cells is good < 1185998622 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 262144 chars < 1185998626 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the screen though - will you memmap it? < 1185998628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: Even LostKingdom runs in 30,000 chars. < 1185998630 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i don't know < 1185998637 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just regular output? < 1185998637 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will make a 320x240 screen < 1185998640 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because regular output would suck < 1185998640 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a special keyboard < 1185998642 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no graphics, etc < 1185998654 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll just have a implementation of brainf**k < 1185998657 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. i think that , should return "raw" character codes < 1185998657 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as basic as it gets < 1185998659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's just lame < 1185998666 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be reprogrammed < 1185998667 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if needed < 1185998674 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think: cell 0, or something, is screen position < 1185998679 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. prints character at cell to that position < 1185998687 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :, gets one raw character code instead of the next character on the line < 1185998713 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not do it. < 1185998716 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185998728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: You get to GulesFish? < 1185998733 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to < 1185998737 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going real soon < 1185998739 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must < 1185998742 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is simple < 1185998749 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you are EXILED IN FIERY DEATH < 1185998836 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: that page has been tampered with < 1185998952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck crasher: < 1185998955 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[+.,--] < 1185998957 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it :D < 1185999001 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck crasher: +[] < 1185999008 0 :blahbot`!n=blahbot`@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1185999012 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sure. Let's see if it crashes. < 1185999014 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%bf ,[+.,--] < 1185999018 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%ps < 1185999019 0 :blahbot`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0. ps < 1185999025 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%bf ,[+.,--]!hello world < 1185999027 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%ps < 1185999027 0 :blahbot`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0. bf ,[+.,--]!hello world < 1185999029 0 :blahbot`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. ps < 1185999031 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not crashed. Running. < 1185999033 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%kill 0 < 1185999034 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%ps < 1185999034 0 :blahbot`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0. ps < 1185999037 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was easy < 1185999043 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1185999048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's infinitely going < 1185999060 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... just wait until it eats all mem < 1185999104 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't eat all memory < 1185999107 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't use > at all < 1185999116 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just adds, outputs, inputs, and subtracts two < 1185999128 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, equal to ,[-.,] < 1185999130 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1185999154 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1185999157 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1185999166 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[-.>,>] try now < 1185999167 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wait < 1185999252 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going < 1185999255 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1185999261 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will be back tommorow < 1185999266 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1185999279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn it, he's coming back. < 1185999354 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, unforunately < 1185999374 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow... he is forced to get to gulesfish! < 1185999383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... maybe forced to beat basil. but that would just be cruel < 1185999401 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... though ... being cruel to someone who uses age as an excuse for anything may be justified ... :P < 1185999466 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use age as an excuse for being an age. < 1185999512 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1185999588 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i might make a BF pda, but with better cellsize and my screen IO system :P < 1185999601 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i guess maybe it isn't the best < 1185999617 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(. = output current cell at position in [0] < 1185999633 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : , = input one keypress (NOTE: keypress, not character) store in current cell) < 1185999662 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, allows for graphics and stuff < 1185999674 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe instead a pixel based system < 1185999689 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. = flip pixel at position in cell < 1185999700 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good < 1185999705 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. tedious to use i guess < 1185999865 0 :turingcomplete!n=fsi@212.220.132.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1185999908 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1185999915 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1185999933 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that definition of ., and a 320x240 screen, prizes to whoever gives the shortest code to draw a hollow circle < 1185999963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming, of course, that cell size goes up to at least 76800 < 1186000083 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming starting top-left pixel is in the current cell < 1186000463 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, someone? :) < 1186000527 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a type of Channel in Java's nio that supports pushing back? (Something like PushbackInputStream ?) < 1186000953 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, < 1186000963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should this PDA/machine/thing have any persistant memory? < 1186000968 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. a way to save programs < 1186000975 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe their output < 1186001110 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just ram < 1186001411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION senses a n00b < 1186001435 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who me? :) < 1186001494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, turingcomplete. < 1186001500 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1186001502 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1186001535 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot my nick from the last time, and that was the first time I was here < 1186001562 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turingcomplete was first thing that came into my mind after MrDurp < 1186001656 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1186001678 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, stupid < 1186002007 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_machine proposed BF machine spec < 1186002137 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# This page has been accessed one time. < 1186002251 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so? < 1186002252 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just made it < 1186002323 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1186002450 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do wonder how hard that circle program will be though < 1186002631 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/relaycomputertwo/ < 1186003980 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think not too hard < 1186003993 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not trivial < 1186004031 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are multiple things that could be deemed "hollow circles". < 1186004059 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have one: {(0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)} < 1186004247 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1186004253 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like that but bigger ;) < 1186004259 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say 50x50 or something < 1186004264 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bigger < 1186004266 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say 50x50 or something < 1186004298 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that be in the rules? < 1186004317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1186004319 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a tiny competition < 1186004329 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'd like to see some code to demonstate the feasability of its screen mechanism < 1186004703 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's feasible, as long as you can indeed toggle each bit in an arbitrary way. < 1186004710 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not feasable unless it can be feased. :-) < 1186004756 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean toggle each bit in an "arbitary" way? < 1186004765 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: solved the puzzle? < 1186004769 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get the current 0/1 status of a bit, and flip a bit from 0->1 and 1->0 < 1186004775 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, not yet. i'm going to try later < 1186004920 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: can the code always take a number and toggle the corresponding bit? < 1186004934 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can it avoid doing so? < 1186004944 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, i don't understand < 1186004948 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can always toggle a bit, yes < 1186004957 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ flips the bit whose position is in the current cell < 1186004968 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1186004978 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted to permanently turn off a bit, there's: < 1186004983 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?[@] < 1186004990 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. wait, no < 1186004997 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to duplicate the value, then go over to it < 1186005011 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?DUPLICATE<[>@] < 1186005013 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1186005014 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, so drawing a circle can definitely be done. < 1186005022 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but can it be done relatively concisely? < 1186005035 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithmically, that is? < 1186005041 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not. < 1186005053 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-125.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1186005056 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show your code then :) the spec is here: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_machine < 1186005062 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, jix finished the whole of your puzzles... < 1186005067 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, guys < 1186005069 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1186005070 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, he did Basil in a matter of minutes o.O < 1186005072 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, cool < 1186005084 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: kudos to you, man! :D < 1186005088 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't get GulesFish though, he didn't know what a red herring was < 1186005096 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'd you think of the challenges? < 1186005098 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but once he got that, he finished it in barely any time < 1186005102 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a red herring? < 1186005112 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, er - oops < 1186005117 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION and his big fat mouth < 1186005126 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1186005132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: look up the definition of "Gules" < 1186005135 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I stopped trying once I didn't see an obvious way to get past GulesFish. < 1186005143 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: did you have fun? :) < 1186005154 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, red. < 1186005155 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: yeah... i found basil quite clever < 1186005160 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1186005178 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gulesfish is unfair at least at one step < 1186005194 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just how is number translated into point? < 1186005220 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the BF machine, that is. < 1186005243 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, you know graphics memory? < 1186005256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just linear, 80*24 cells < 1186005270 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :320 wide, 240 tall. < 1186005270 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just displays the first 80, then the next 80, etc < 1186005275 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, yess < 1186005278 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 320*240 cells < 1186005285 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, its a pointer in this case < 1186005290 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (x,y) is x + 240*y? < 1186005307 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1186005315 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x + 320*y? < 1186005320 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapping would be nice. < 1186005331 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes, 320. < 1186005335 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, i guess. but if the max value isn't defined.. < 1186005343 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter. < 1186005345 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1186005356 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do [-] and end up with 34857459234234 or 76824 < 1186005366 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :999999 * 999999 = 1 (mod 1000000), no? < 1186005378 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, [-] and end up with something other than zero? < 1186005384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, [-]- < 1186005387 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even just - < 1186005392 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1186005405 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should fix the maximum at 76800 < 1186005416 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :76799, you mean? < 1186005434 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as the minimum is 0, which is an extremely sensible thing to do. :-) < 1186005436 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :320 * 240 = 76800 < 1186005438 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes < 1186005451 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it wraps? < 1186005501 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1186005518 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_machine spec updated < 1186005535 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can give me code to draw, algorithmically, a 50x50 circle with that spec, you get entered into the competition < 1186005607 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1186005638 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should brush off my BF Sine function and get it working properly < 1186005654 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sine function. That's a way I hadn't thought of. < 1186005679 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you *normally* draw circles in CG < 1186005682 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until a circle is relatively simple to do, i'll keep refining the spec :) this competition will help < 1186005696 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, you should define a circle. < 1186005709 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've seen a circle before. < 1186005709 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1186005717 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not that many circles you can make in 50x50... < 1186005736 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also do things with c^2 = sqrt(a^2 + b^2), but it'd be tricky to draw a hollow circle that way < 1186005736 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I can't turn on an uncountably infinite number of points. < 1186005758 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one doesn't use sine to draw circles! < 1186005762 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basic benchmark: look something not unlike what paint produces when you drag the circle tool from topleft to bottomright on a 50x50 image < 1186005846 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: reminds me a bit of this: http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=5060 < 1186005853 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although BFVGA is a little more direct < 1186005881 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does bfvga do it < 1186005895 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: sine and cosine. You can shift sine's output a little and have cosine for free < 1186005906 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generate lookup tables and it isn't even horrifically slow < 1186005921 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it just maps the BF tape *directly* to VGA memory < 1186005923 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it okay if I draw a discrete circle? :-P < 1186005935 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: you can done circle drawing with just multiplication and addition/bitshift i think < 1186005935 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like BFVGA way < 1186005942 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: that'd be trivial, but it seems like it'd be allowed < 1186005946 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, a Galois circle. < 1186005950 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: I'm aware of this < 1186005962 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, go ahead, whatever < 1186005983 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it looks like a circle to me < 1186006009 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subjective tests? < 1186006012 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can approximate sine as a McLaurin series, and then do it with just +-/* < 1186006032 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turingcomplete, yes! < 1186006049 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just looking for a 50x50 drawing that the average person would recognize as a smooth-for-its-size circle < 1186006130 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, this'll take me a few minutes... < 1186006154 0 :turingcomplete!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1186006203 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: are these screen addresses zero-indexed? < 1186006208 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, yes < 1186006211 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1186006347 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.90.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1186006441 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Galois circles generally look a thing like "real" circles. :-) < 1186006638 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my isp is fucked < 1186006705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been disconnected 4 times in the last hour, and while i am connected i get about 2kb/s < 1186006732 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1186006949 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, it's 100 lines already, isn't it < 1186006970 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm... yes < 1186007211 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what of it? < 1186007268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1186007281 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1186007283 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long will it be when it's done? 5000? < 1186007300 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's BF- "lines" is relative < 1186007323 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about halfway complete with my pseudocode < 1186007391 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1186007394 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i think drawing a circle is way harder than it needs to be. heh < 1186007427 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting there, I'm getting there < 1186007612 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how many characters of BF would you estimate it to be? < 1186007619 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want using this to draw simple shapes /relatively/ simply :) < 1186007697 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1186007718 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a rectangle would be a fuckload easier to write efficiently < 1186007755 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1186007759 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but circles are common things < 1186007774 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1186007781 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider lines more common things < 1186007793 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh