< 1188000788 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188000959 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1188004419 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye..." < 1188005576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1188005592 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188005601 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe instead of the encodings SimonRC was mentioning, I could, in necessary places, use NUL-terminated numbers < 1188005615 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1188005631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1188005631 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 bits-per-byte with an indicator bit at the top is better < 1188005644 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is shorter for any case you will encounter < 1188005656 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is easier for an esolang to process? < 1188005701 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your way < 1188005707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1188005710 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why we should do it my way < 1188005716 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1188005720 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1188005730 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was supposed to be easy people wouldn;t be using brainfuck < 1188005743 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX isn't just for Brainfuck < 1188005759 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why make things harder then they already are? < 1188005818 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easel-PESOIX had some convenience functions >.> < 1188005927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the even domains shouldn't have longnames.. < 1188006030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1188006041 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the befunge system? < 1188006304 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1188006811 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quadium.net/funge/spec98.html#Fingerprints < 1188006869 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ty SimonRC < 1188006932 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are ones for time travel, graphics, roman numerals, etc < 1188007060 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. < 1188007068 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many people other than befunge programmers know what a "discrete lahey space" is
< 1188007098 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system doesn't allow overlaps, but do we need overlaps? < 1188007107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would overlaps in PSOX mean? < 1188007126 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1188007136 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nick the applicaable good bits and leave the rest < 1188007144 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my system doesn't require registration, unless you count a URL or email address in your possession registration.. < 1188007152 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a language feature not a dinner < 1188007176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression is that Lahey was a befunge programmer and the term was invented there < 1188007202 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of him elsewhere < 1188007206 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any specific evidence? < 1188007240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An equivelent of handprints may be useful.. < 1188007244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee, Chris Lahey is mentioned in wikipedia on befunge < 1188007264 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, google agrees < 1188007285 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0x00 0x01 0x00] 0x00 0x08 could return a string similar to domain longnames.. < 1188007288 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must ask a mathematician what the proper name is.. < 1188007366 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domains are like tame extensions that don't overlap < 1188007395 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even domains don't need to be loaded in any way < 1188007409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quadium.net/funge/downloads/bef93src/ proves that he was a befunge programmer < 1188007415 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even domains/custom domains < 1188007424 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even is opposite of custom < 1188007427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not odd < 1188007461 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just givin inspiration < 1188007539 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1188007602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will too
< 1188007609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night SimonRC < 1188007624 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1188009015 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone else is in here
< 1188009378 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reserving domain1 as a Shortcut Pseudo-domain
< 1188009487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not.. < 1188010226 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reserves 0x00 0x02 as 'call shortcut'
< 1188010919 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188011167 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi pikhq < 1188011170 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi pikhq_ < 1188011237 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, you there? < 1188011597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188011734 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1188011870 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1188013573 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi cmeme < 1188013875 0 :navaburo!n=navaburo@155.246.216.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188013897 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. ok, anyone have a mod operator implementation in bf? < 1188013919 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been working on this for two hours with no luck < 1188014479 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :navaburo, hold on < 1188014489 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to translate bfc into bf by hand
< 1188014530 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-153-179.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1188014540 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets lost
< 1188014551 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chyea... its not that important < 1188014560 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... how could it be? < 1188014627 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought around 6 tonight, hey, i should write a bf interpreter in scheme... < 1188014656 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, realizing that I knew neither language, i decided i would write a prime number lister in bf < 1188014685 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got the looping, mov/copy, and adding on the lock-down, and i finally got division to work < 1188014694 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but modulus just made my head turn inside out < 1188014808 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe examine the logic of bfc's _mod? < 1188014862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/669810 < 1188014938 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1188014949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1188015006 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinion wanted: does the Ultimate RISC's assembler language qualify as esoteric? < 1188015012 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/arch/risc/ < 1188015351 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... i suppose it is after reading some more < 1188019292 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188019302 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1188020398 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1188023019 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188023963 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1188026108 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Man who stand in frond of car is tired. Man who stand behind car is exhausted." < 1188026129 0 :jcc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188026156 0 :jcc_!n=chatzill@24.143.70.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188026170 0 :jcc_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jcc < 1188027244 0 :lhadie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188028799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1188028800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1188029285 0 :keyn!n=keyn@78.32.132.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188030775 0 :keyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1188032270 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188032697 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-99-227.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1188033131 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1188034125 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188036833 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188037024 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188037674 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :navaburo: actualy that exists < 1188037689 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is called a move-triggered architecture or somethinglike that < 1188037736 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you don't tell it to multiply, you tell it to move things to the inputs of the multiplier, then a few cycles later you tell it to do somethign with the output of the multiplier < 1188037765 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to use these is via a compiler that can calculate all the instruction delays correctly < 1188037775 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a PITA to use < 1188038318 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1188041177 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188041213 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188042922 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1188043011 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188046718 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188049177 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1188052141 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188052277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Dinner" < 1188053792 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188054466 0 :d3w!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"AVAST!" < 1188055222 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1188055241 0 :lhadie!n=asdf@adsl-68-125-110-97.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188059669 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188068836 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242398635.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1188069583 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-2-84.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1188070611 0 :lhadie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188070756 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1188072648 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@71-208-212-117.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188072928 0 :ihope!n=ns@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188072962 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1188073525 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1188073755 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1188074083 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1188074599 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188074646 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188074658 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1188080831 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphics in brainfuck anyone? http://hotwigati.blogspot.com/ < 1188080883 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that interpreter makes the memory cells of bf the video memory..... tada! graphics in bf < 1188081277 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1188081776 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1188081787 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1188082715 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :navaburo: ooh < 1188082826 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: look, i drew a box! yeah! < 1188082865 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my example kinda sucks. the best part is the 'abstract art' you get from running other apps < 1188082893 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the decss run through two brainfuck vms in bf < 1188083059 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abstract art? Sounds fun! < 1188083151 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with it is that the graphics are 2D, and bf works in 1D < 1188083169 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just wrap the mem around the screen, like written text would < 1188083182 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem there is that it becomes unnatural to move the pointer vertically < 1188083223 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF unnatural, never! < 1188083223 0 :navaburo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should use a 2D bf dialect... with the symbols v and ^ in addition to > and < for moving the pointer < 1188083260 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ^ and v are just equivalent to long strings of <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < 1188083281 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decent Bf-to-C compiler will abbreviate appropriately < 1188083355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188083549 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give bf a 2d array < 1188083622 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1188083626 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start in the top array, 0th element, v moves to the next lower array, ^ to the higher < 1188083651 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sure that has already been done < 1188083656 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the wiki < 1188085341 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1188085402 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1188085620 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1188086354 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric