00:04:00 -!- ehird` has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:49:37 Adjudicated Blind Collaborative Design Esolang Factory <<< i realized the first letters are the beginning of the alphabet! only seen that about 100 times 00:52:21 hrm 00:52:52 i wonder if a [0-9]* password is easier to remember than a [a-z]* or [A-z]* password 00:54:08 i don't think so 03:08:55 -!- cherez has left (?). 03:17:38 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:53:36 -!- simplechat has joined. 03:53:50 yay! go brainfuck! 03:59:00 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 04:00:26 -!- g4lt-sb100 has joined. 04:00:32 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Client Quit). 04:01:44 simplechat: Not hard to do. 04:02:30 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 04:03:10 .. 04:19:23 lol 04:20:28 ,[.,] 04:47:47 oklofok: we designed it that way, actually 04:51:53 we had "Blind Collaborative Design", and then I came up with "Adjudicated", and everyone else contributed words to build the mighty non-acronym we have today 05:02:57 was i here that time? 05:03:10 or is it over a year old? 05:03:19 or whatever time i've been here 05:05:21 i've read everything people have said here except two weeks i were away and a few nights there was so much logs i only glansed through (mostly immi-originated...) 05:08:40 adjudicated = something that is not judged? 05:08:45 hmm... 05:09:00 i'm pretty sure i've known that word 05:10:11 I think it was a bit under a year. 05:11:37 hmm, adjudicate is the opposide of that 05:11:49 * oklofok fail-slaps itself 05:25:11 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/adjudicated 05:26:25 i use answers.com for dictionary/google/wikipedia 05:39:56 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 05:48:07 omg a java course about objects starts today... this is gonna be mind-blowing 05:50:45 RodgerTheGreat: btw, it's kinda obvious you designed it that way, the odds of that happening are 1/244140625 (though odds of something improbable happening in general are much bigger), plus it's almost as improbable no one would actually notice it at some point and claim it was his plan all along. 05:51:32 and classes start in 10 minutes, it's 10 degrees outside, i don't own a jacket, i have to go by bike and it's a 7 km trip 05:51:37 this is gonna be fun. 05:51:39 -> 05:51:50 (black t-shirts ftw) 06:01:31 light your shirt on fire! 06:05:30 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit. 06:06:29 i've been reading colorado law 06:06:39 it's pretty blech 06:13:17 using a recording device in a movie theater is a misdemeanor 06:14:50 minimum wage for minors is 15% less than for unminors 06:29:40 -!- simplechat has quit ("There coming!"). 06:49:50 -!- theoros has quit (Connection timed out). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:18:34 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 08:19:24 -!- GregorR has joined. 08:38:02 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:22:51 -!- SimonRC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:22:55 -!- SimonRC has joined. 09:33:49 -!- oerjan has quit ("Lunch"). 10:38:45 -!- ehird` has joined. 10:39:04 ciretose - like comatose, but induced by fucking of the brain 11:38:47 -!- ehird` has quit (Remote closed the connection). 11:39:27 -!- Sgeo has joined. 11:40:12 Has anyone done anything with PSOX since I last talked about it? (not including now ofc) 11:42:59 -!- ehird` has joined. 11:44:24 Hi ehird` 11:45:52 -!- ehird` has quit (Client Quit). 11:46:03 -!- ehird` has joined. 11:47:05 re 11:49:10 Anyone here? 12:03:06 no 12:03:27 * Sgeo pokes GregorR 12:03:34 i am not here 12:31:40 -!- jix_ has joined. 12:32:13 Hi jix_ 12:32:43 moin 13:44:30 -!- ehird`_ has joined. 14:05:15 -!- ehird` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 14:50:05 -!- jix_ has changed nick to jix. 15:18:57 -!- jix has quit (Nick collision from services.). 15:19:13 -!- jix has joined. 16:04:28 Sgeo: i don't know about the others, but i usually let people finish their own projects :) 16:04:37 unless PSOX is already ready 16:04:51 Any comments on the newlines issue? 16:05:19 Some esolang interpreters might require newlines before they can push output or take in input 16:05:22 or something like that 16:05:37 So I'm going to need to make 0x0A mandatory after every command 16:06:23 gotta leave :< 16:06:39 -!- ololobot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 16:07:14 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:23:04 -!- oklofok has quit ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )"). 16:56:37 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:18:24 sebbu: no, you just create a 0x0A command that does nothing, but can be used to kick the interpreter into outputting. 17:18:47 then programs use the 0x0A command like a kind of flush command 17:20:35 except it needs to be present on input as well 17:21:28 I was only thinking about commands 17:21:42 ah, I have another idea... 17:22:32 the 0x0A command could cause the PSOX layer to feed you a newline, thereby flushing output and input in that order 17:22:47 SimonRC, now, do this over multiple architectures and endiannesses 17:23:31 ...remembering that they all have different reserved opcodes 17:23:51 eh? 17:24:00 no they don't 17:24:13 PSOX is platform-independent 17:24:26 okay, do a 0x80 on a sparc. hint, it's not a null 17:24:36 nop ratehr 17:25:27 WTF 17:25:36 what the hel has that got to do with PSOX? 17:25:43 there is going to be an optional translation layer needed anyhow. 17:25:58 consider original INTERCAL, for example. 17:26:27 roman numerals in one direction, and i don't quite remember in the other. 17:26:34 how do opcodes relate to a layer that allows bytestream-to-bytestream programs to do system-specific things? 17:26:59 oerjan: input was digit names in a variaety of weird languages 17:29:38 some languages, such as unlambda, have most character I/O possible but it is so awkward that you might want a different encoding for efficiency. 18:01:43 * Sgeo was thinking that the client would be forced to do 0x0A after every command, and server sends 0x0A after every response 18:03:35 But 0x0A doesn't necessarily indicate the end of the command or response 18:04:41 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 18:04:50 Hi sebbu 18:04:54 sebbu2, 18:21:52 > mapAccumR (flip divMod) 10000 [60,60] 18:21:59 grr 18:23:44 -!- sebbu has quit (Connection timed out). 18:39:01 -!- galt has joined. 18:54:05 -!- g4lt-sb100 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 19:02:28 oerjan: implementing... haskell? 19:02:52 just wrong channel again 19:06:50 -!- importantshock has joined. 19:09:25 oerjan should implement haskell 19:12:10 it'd be the weirdest haskell ever 19:16:21 why? 19:19:39 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 19:29:27 * bsmntbombdood needs to learn pi-calculus 19:35:19 * bsmntbombdood also needs to go to class now 19:55:58 -!- galt has changed nick to g4lt-mordant. 19:58:13 -!- Tritonio has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:09:51 -!- Tritonio has joined. 20:30:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 20:35:55 -!- RedDak has joined. 20:55:10 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 21:06:10 -!- rabidfurby has joined. 21:09:36 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:29:30 -!- oklopol has joined. 21:30:25 -!- ehird`_ has left (?). 21:30:28 -!- ehird`_ has joined. 21:30:33 #thelang anyone? 21:33:26 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 21:41:30 -!- CakeProphet has changed nick to SevenInchBread. 21:52:10 current projects: brainfuck-interpreter in True, and ski interpreter in Texas instruments TI-84 21:52:28 (or just TI-84, since ti is prolly texas instruments...) 21:52:49 is there an ski interpreter in an imperative language? 21:52:55 i haven't seen one :| 22:01:15 youd have to implement a callstack and stuff 22:01:53 i implemented a list stack in TI-84 22:02:06 you can push and pop arbitrary lists 22:02:46 it prints the numbers as pixels on the graph 22:03:27 yes, i know there are matrices there... but mine is cewler. 22:11:57 because you can watch as your ski program evaluates 22:19:47 ti-84 basic is TERRIBLE 22:19:51 yeah :D 22:19:53 that's the challenge 22:20:02 my ti-89 has a c compiler 22:20:12 oooh 22:20:22 i should write ski in C as an excersize 22:20:24 after 8 minutes of silence, i answer in 3 seconds... some might say that's sad. 22:20:40 hmm... that might help making it in the basic 22:20:47 *in 22:20:51 c compiler? 22:20:52 probably 22:20:53 oh, 89 22:20:55 c compiler 22:21:04 the basic is better too 22:21:24 wonder if ti-84 has c... 22:21:34 i could... write an interpreter in the basic!" 22:21:35 :D 22:21:48 oh my god it's pain writing that 22:22:12 what's 89 basic like? 22:22:21 i mean, what's different 22:25:36 i don't remember 22:25:53 haven't coded in it since i got the calculator 22:41:09 I wrote a BF interpreter for my hp 48. 22:42:20 i want an hp 48 22:42:48 you sure do 22:44:07 i want an hp 48g or whatever it was, and a ti-89 22:44:17 :( but must spend money on less useless things.. 22:47:00 =) 22:47:15 I got mine as a birthday present. 22:51:15 it's pretty trivial doing bf for ti-84 22:51:30 i don't know about hp 48 22:51:37 -!- sebbu has quit ("@+"). 22:52:26 my interpreter was probably not very efficient 22:52:33 it's universally trivial 22:52:34 it took five minutes to run Hello world 22:52:43 bsmntbombdood: no 22:52:55 a bf interpreter in bf is not trivial 22:53:02 yes it is 22:53:10 that isn't hard, making it in ski is hard 22:53:12 that's because nothing in bf is trivial 22:53:17 oklopol: no it's not 22:53:22 really? 22:53:25 i never tried 22:53:42 you just write it in functional scheme, and have your computer do the abstraction elemination for you 22:53:44 i guess if you rip off list presentations from somewhere 22:53:57 haha, trues :P 22:55:47 i still think that doesn't make it any easier to do in ski 22:56:01 because the program will be immensely complex 22:56:18 no it won't 22:56:28 write it in scheme 22:56:34 it will be <25 lines 22:57:14 abstraction eliminated it of course will be very long 22:57:54 3=14 22:58:05 i think being able to make scheme -> ski, and therefore calling making bf in ski easy is pretty much like saying making a bf interpreter in ski is easy because you can just download it from the net 22:58:21 just because you can get the code from somewhere easily isn't really *trivially making it* 22:58:22 no it's not 22:58:33 not if you wrote the abstraction eliminator and the interpreter 22:59:06 if you wrote the abstraction eliminator in ski and encoded your scheme in the ski program, true, that's making it in ski 22:59:36 Hey wow I forgot about kajirbot 23:00:53 -!- KajirBot has joined. 23:00:56 .feed 23:00:57 thanks :) but have you got cyanide? 23:00:59 .feed cyanide 23:01:00 thank you :) 23:01:03 :) 23:01:14 -!- KajirBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:01:15 :D 23:01:19 * ehird`_ adds a dictionary 23:01:46 -!- ololobot has joined. 23:02:29 * oklopol has a dictionary 23:02:37 dodes dictionary.com have an api 23:02:54 yes, http 23:02:57 Specifically I need a python api for dictionary (or a rest api is fine too) 23:03:04 But not web scraping. 23:03:17 http sucks 23:03:24 http doesn't suck 23:03:25 html sucks 23:03:41 http sucks. 23:03:46 no it doesn't 23:03:47 justify that 23:03:53 it's text based 23:04:01 who the fuck needs that nowadays 23:04:15 .. 23:04:32 you enjoy spouting off garbage just to have your opinion differ from everyone else in here, don't you? 23:04:34 EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN ONE BIG DATA STRUCTURE 23:04:39 no no 23:04:59 i'm pretty sure everyone here thinks it sucks. 23:05:07 except i now know you don't 23:05:20 bsmntbombdood: Does HTTP suck, or does HTML suck 23:05:28 html 23:05:33 the main problem is coding interface into content 23:05:46 that's html. 23:05:48 not http. 23:06:14 indeed :) 23:06:26 i have to think a bit. 23:06:55 -!- ehird`_ has changed nick to ehird`. 23:07:27 there's a lot of text encoding issues i hate about it, but that might just be php originated 23:08:57 thats html 23:09:27 HYPER text PREprocESSOR! 23:10:00 well, i guess all i can hate about http is how it's used, which is basically hating html. 23:11:35 and also, i do think it's be much nicer to have a protocol over http to be able to skip the useless serializing part 23:11:39 i'm sure there is. 23:11:44 *it'd 23:13:07 what 23:13:14 have you even researched http 23:13:15 also, i think the whole layer system could've been done a lot better, it's verrry ugly 23:13:18 somewhat 23:14:48 i'll have to read te rfc i guess. 23:15:41 http seems to already support that. 23:15:47 about first line on the rfc :) 23:19:52 -!- rutlov has joined. 23:23:52 -!- rutlov has left (?). 23:29:39 this is much better than what cisco has taught me 23:30:10 i'll read the spec and see if i still have something to complain 23:35:38 *the 23:42:11 -!- g4lt-mordant has changed nick to unbewont. 23:44:30 -!- RedDak has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:49:40 -!- ehird` has quit.