< 1189296062 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# handle esolang input requests < 1189296063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189296106 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189296122 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant how would I hook something up to the esolang input requests? < 1189296177 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1189296211 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, let's see.. is it required to know that the esolang wants input? < 1189296285 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1189296292 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps your pesoix just supplies output to the esolangs input when it has some available. < 1189296293 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I make the changes in the spec.. < 1189296363 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a little I/O diagram in there < 1189296418 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's suppose '.' is some PSOX request that returns stuff < 1189296433 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is PSOX supposed to tell the difference between ',.' and '.,' < 1189296449 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One would get one thing, the other would get something else < 1189296552 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Push comes to shove, see http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt < 1189296558 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under Pseudodomains < 1189296580 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only if I can't determine when an input requests is being made, or when the size of the stdin buffer goes down < 1189296588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, you need an explicit get_stdin() function. < 1189296608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about it a while, and that's the only sane way to get it done. < 1189296618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like in the current specs (with the PSOX input function?) < 1189296635 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is what's in the psox.txt file now sane? < 1189296648 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under Pseudodomains < 1189296687 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION agrees
< 1189296695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very sane. < 1189296701 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1189296730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I now see how I'd implement the PEBBLE pass. < 1189296747 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will your modified input thing be able to get rid of the ending newline? < 1189296758 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for fixed-byte requests) < 1189296793 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; the PEBBLE "input" command only accepts one byte of input. < 1189296827 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the substitutuonary input will read in one byte, then will it be able to discard the newline? < 1189296836 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Oh. < 1189296847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the newline bit would still be tricky. < 1189296869 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without it, on interps. that require newlines, there might be deadlocks < 1189296870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be much, much easier (maybe even possible) if the newline wasn't output. < 1189296962 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still a useful API, just hard to get to work with PEBBLE. < 1189297017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't see a way to remove the newline
< 1189297184 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it workable with the newline? < 1189297263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for PEBBLE. < 1189297269 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1189297275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For raw Brainfuck, sure, just not for PEBBLE. . . < 1189297310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way it can be taken out unless it runs on interpreters that don't need newlines or something < 1189297342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x02 0x09 0x0A: Returns a single char from stdin. < 1189297448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would cause deadlock on some interpreters < 1189297467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, wha? < 1189297485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1189297486 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I requested a character like that, then read in < 1189297495 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :',' is blocking, so I wait < 1189297507 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the interp doesn't send it until it gets the newline 0x0A < 1189297519 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not going to come because the BF prog isn't requesting it < 1189297525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"interp"? < 1189297531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang interpreter < 1189297534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which interp? PSOX interpreter? Esolang interpreter? < 1189297538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1189297565 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how it works. < 1189297604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1189297627 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of esolang interpreters use buffered input, which may work *somewhat* like that when called from a shell. . . < 1189297662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can just flush the stream going to the esolang interpreter, and the ',' will stop blocking. < 1189297678 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO I can? < 1189297683 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you _sure_? < 1189297686 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just so happens that outputting 0x0A also flushs a stream) < 1189297699 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes GregorR
< 1189297700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1189297709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes GregorR, too. Tell us if we're idiots.
< 1189298132 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, you there? < 1189298418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this? < 1189298422 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused by the above statements. < 1189298453 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a pipe to some other program, and that other program is buffering, you can't force it to take all your input, only it can. < 1189298473 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, and are there interpreters that will take it in only after a newline? < 1189298478 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*esolang interpreters < 1189298487 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not as likely to do that on input as on output. < 1189298518 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there some that do? < 1189298564 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm muddling in my head exactly what happens in various situations here ... < 1189298628 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't /think/ that fread buffer. fgets() always waits for a newline or EOF, regardless of the input source, but it's unlikely that that would be used. < 1189298631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very off topic, GregorR don't get derailed < 1189298653 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/bf-source/prog/hanoi.bf < 1189298657 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible code < 1189298661 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>< and <> found < 1189298667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's generated. < 1189298684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that poorly generated code is part of the impetus for PEBBLE in the first place. ;) < 1189298685 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus arbitrary [-] at the beginning.. < 1189298688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If fread doesn't buffer, and stdin is a pipe, then you just have to make sure you've forced the pipe not to buffer the other way. < 1189298704 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, 'buffer the other way'? < 1189298723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PSOX interpreter would have to make sure it's not buffering the output back over the pipe. < 1189298742 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is to say: The buffering problem is primarily on writing. < 1189298766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so remove the 0x0A requirement on returned things? < 1189298778 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things returned from PSOX functions? < 1189298780 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why? < 1189298800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it hurt? < 1189298815 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extraneous 0x0A's sent to BF programs == not fun' < 1189298820 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can if the PSOX interpreter is poorly written. < 1189298837 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd write big fat warnings about buffering into the docs :) < 1189298841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, shouldn't hurt. < 1189298861 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to take a shower.
< 1189298872 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189298881 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs to eat now
< 1189298888 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will modify the specs after he eats
< 1189298899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Allow me to provide one recommendation for you. . . Believe me, math functions would help a lot with Brainfuck. < 1189299292 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is imperative < 1189299738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Well aware. < 1189300456 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what domain would they go into? < 1189300463 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain 0x04? < 1189300477 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be renamed from I/O Utils to.. "Utils"? < 1189300481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Misc"? < 1189300503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, and should the functions just accept and return longnums? < 1189300577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It'd also be nice to just do 8-bit nums via PSOX rather than raw Brainfuck. < 1189300607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, any 8-bit num is just 0x01 byte 0x00 < 1189300618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess I can make single-byte versions.. < 1189300672 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it wouldn't be a wrapping 8-bit that way. < 1189300693 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was wondering how overflows should be handled..
< 1189300698 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about negative numbers? < 1189300711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Status code byte? < 1189300728 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I have a separate domain for math from the Simple I/O domain? < 1189300733 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or one "Utils" < 1189300748 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overflows don't happen in Galois fields. < 1189300757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x02 at the start of a longnum indicating that it's negative? < 1189300758 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? Galois fields? < 1189300772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes, but for the single-byte functions.. < 1189300782 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number systems with finite numbers of numbers. < 1189300798 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That happen to be fields.) < 1189300804 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the integers modulo 7. < 1189300840 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're dealing with integers mod 256, I think < 1189300861 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1189300901 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assume that you're dealing with unsigned integers. < 1189300919 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what happens when something requests 1 - 2? < 1189300924 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :status byte? < 1189300944 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modulo 256, 1 - 2 = 255. < 1189300949 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suggest a carry bit :-P < 1189301033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I don't. < 1189301044 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't? < 1189301047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the exact behavior of an unsigned char on my system. ;) < 1189301077 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 - 2 gives 255 and sets the carry bit to... 1, I guess. < 1189301097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, since the reason for these functions is to be easier-to-use equivalents of an 8-bit Brainfuck's mod 256 math operators, carry bits don't make much sense. < 1189301116 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe 1 - 2 is the same as 1 + -2, and evaluating -2 at all ones the carry bit. < 1189301117 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do status bytes make sense? < 1189301141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x01 if everything's ok, 0x00 if overflow in one direction or the other? < 1189301295 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find doing it the other way around slightly more elegant. < 1189301318 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in BF, ' < 1189301323 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 for wrap, 0 for no wrap. < 1189301324 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in BF, '[' < 1189301326 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1189301344 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands Sgeo a potion of holy water
< 1189301345 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in BF, '[' is a sort of "if nonzero" < 1189301347 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#dip your enter key in this. < 1189301352 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189301424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least in PEBBLE's addvar macro, I have the ability to throw that stuff away. < 1189301562 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're sticking with the input function thingy? < 1189301588 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka giving up on piping? < 1189301592 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, the problem < 1189301698 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, it looks like I never wrote in the specs that functions return a mandatory 0x0A < 1189301770 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1189301830 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If an attempt is made to map a longname onto an occupied shortname," < 1189301835 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be next? < 1189301847 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I have it fail, or replace the old one? < 1189301851 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail. < 1189301858 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, comments? < 1189301858 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1189301871 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail if there's a way to make it replace the old one; replace the old one if there's a way to put it back. < 1189301921 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way to put it back: Do the thing that got the original there in the first place < 1189301932 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, there will be no status code for that function < 1189302053 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, agree or disagree? < 1189302116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts "replace" in there
< 1189302137 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "Fail if there's a way to make it replace the old one" mean? < 1189302283 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is to make sure that the option you go with can easily simulate the other one. < 1189302296 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189302311 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no arbitrary overhead, preferably. < 1189302327 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the client must have put the original there anyway, so it can replace i < 1189302343 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "replace", since there will be no explicit replace function < 1189302362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty ihope < 1189302760 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why not have an explicit remove function, though? < 1189302769 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189302774 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++++<-]>++++++.---.+++++.+++++++.+++. < 1189302778 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LINUX < 1189302805 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1189302842 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C version was cooler... < 1189302876 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1189302905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, it's unneeded? < 1189302921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hmm. You've got a point there. < 1189302940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that replacing it wouldn't violate the law of least surprise. < 1189303035 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I bother including stuff for strings that can contain NULs? < 1189303144 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that much had already been discussed. < 1189303167 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not in the specs yet < 1189303170 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will put it in
< 1189303291 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RStrings are like NUL-terminated strings except that they can contain NULs. < 1189303291 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x01 escapes a 0x00, so that "0x01 0x00" resolves to "0x00". 0x01 also escapes 0x01, < 1189303291 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "0x01 0x00" resolves to "0x01". A "0x01" followed by anything else removes the 0x01." < 1189303293 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That good? < 1189303321 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last bit causes 0x01 to be like a "safe escape" < 1189303351 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..and also makes Longstrings valid as RStrings.. < 1189303355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION noticed
< 1189303519 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes ihope and pikhq
< 1189303528 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been poked! < 1189303571 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was thinking of XStrings as something that could contain a Longstring, RString, or NUL-terminated string
< 1189303579 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all Longstrings are RStrings.. < 1189303600 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds complicated. < 1189303618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. < 1189303642 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this: PSOX functions that deal with stuff with NULs should accept RStrings, and return Longstrings.. < 1189303656 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't solve all your problems yesterday? :'( I'm sorry < 1189303804 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out the new http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt .. look under Longstrings and RStrings < 1189303863 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes pikhq
< 1189303877 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is having most functions return Longstrings good for PEBBLE? < 1189303890 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, most that need data with embedded NUL's < 1189303896 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*return < 1189304030 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loop N: Read a byte. If it's 0, output N. Otherwise, read N-1 more bytes and loop the concatenation of the first byte and the rest of the bytes. < 1189304031 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loop 1. < 1189304052 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1189304078 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, a number is represented by the number of bytes in the number, followed by the number itself. < 1189304087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that nothing in PEBBLE even assumes a *string*, the format of a longstring wouldn't matter much; anything assuming a string would be added for the sake of PSOX. < 1189304104 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The number of bytes" is a number in this format, while "the number itself" is just a number. < 1189304110 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this is terminated with a 0. < 1189304150 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, that isn't good for BF and it can only provide a finite amount of numbers anyway.. < 1189304159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about the number problem before.. < 1189304169 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean, it can only provide a finite amount of numbers? < 1189304192 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number itself can only be 256 bytes < 1189304215 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imean, unless I'm understanding you incorrectly.. < 1189304230 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of bytes is given as a number in this format, not as a byte. < 1189304249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.. recursive? < 1189304249 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, hmm. < 1189304257 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is recursive. < 1189304273 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, it's SADOL's number system, minus the commas in front and plus a 0 on the end. < 1189304288 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My longnum format is nice and simple and readable easily by BF < 1189304297 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, that's very true. < 1189304337 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, with the HTTP domain, it won't use longnums for HTTP status codes.. < 1189304349 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strings, instead? < 1189304355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed bytes < 1189304358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1189304365 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. 404 would be 0x04 0x04 < 1189304372 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 would be 0x05 0x00 < 1189304447 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since HTTP status codes like 404 are understood like 4|04 < 1189304503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any comments on strings? < 1189304526 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the input function was updated < 1189304545 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to write an example for the new PSOX? < 1189304905 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1189304912 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, hm? < 1189304920 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 0x4 0xFF then? < 1189304928 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*04 < 1189304942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaningless < 1189304946 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1189304955 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 times final fantasy! :P < 1189304959 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189305312 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox-new-cat.b < 1189305334 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely hopes he didn't make a mistake
< 1189305373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO I did < 1189305445 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok fixe < 1189305447 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fixed < 1189305502 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes ihope, Figs, and pikhq
< 1189305551 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Me he pocado! < 1189305553 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1189305646 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1189305666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note the PSOX example < 1189305669 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any comments? < 1189305679 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you realize that your name contains: pi hoe? < 1189305695 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..no < 1189305700 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "oh pie" < 1189305710 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is, of course, @ihope) < 1189305714 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189305728 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189305735 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh pie! I'm a pi hoe! < 1189305806 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of reddit enumerating the fibonacci #s < 1189305828 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, I haven't checked xkcd in a while... < 1189305887 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189305895 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should set an alarm for "13:37" < 1189305919 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes, I'm still awake at 3:14 and I say "pi time!' < 1189305933 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4:04 -- Sleep Not Found" < 1189306547 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the fact that stuff starts in the morning is unfortunate. < 1189306557 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't they start school at 8:40 instead of 7:40? < 1189306560 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why does it matter? < 1189306619 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe all geeks suffer from DSPS. < 1189306671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer to have school start at, say, 10. < 1189306721 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSPS? < 1189306731 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 'd prefer to have school
< 1189306738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delayed sleep phase syndrome. < 1189306754 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not being able to fall asleep until a certain (very late) time. < 1189306760 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that's how I understand it. < 1189306769 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have class till 3 on most days < 1189306774 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1189306784 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tues, thurs, friday though I have it at 8 :( < 1189306792 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's CS and Logic, so meh :P < 1189306815 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got high school. :/ < 1189306828 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION graduated recently :/
< 1189306829 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a US high school (which it isn't), I'm going to complain non-stop to my parents until we move there. < 1189306839 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell me high school starts at the same time nationwide. < 1189306868 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 10 PM right now. I simply don't want to sleep. < 1189306889 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always tired in the mornings and untired in the nights, no matter how much i sleep < 1189306905 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it weren't for parents and school, I think I would indeed not fall asleep until about 4 AM. < 1189306954 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i do in the summer < 1189306966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably fall into an approximately 26 hour day. < 1189306986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that being what I do when no time requirements are placed on me) < 1189307008 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't have school in the summer, my mom apparently doesn't want my sleep cycle to be hours behind that of the rest of the family. < 1189307053 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parents are like that :/ < 1189307075 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :college < 1189307076 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother's disciplinary action consists (almost?) entirely of yelling at me if she's displeased. < 1189307079 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right because your future employer is going to care all about your sleep schedule < 1189307082 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just graduated highschool recently :) < 1189307105 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, she has to tell me several times before I actually do something. < 1189307106 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think school sucks, you ain't seen nothin yet < 1189307124 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-mordant: google! < 1189307140 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just watch office space < 1189307144 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaccum cleaners suck. Lava is just not cool. < 1189307146 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just hope I'll be able to find a job that doesn't care when I get there? :-P < 1189307153 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1189307160 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That lets me get there at a late time. < 1189307162 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: work from home. < 1189307174 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't. they ust fire you if you fail to show up when they want < 1189307175 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: google! < 1189307178 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have got to have a lot of disciple though < 1189307192 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working from home this summer < 1189307195 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pain in the ass ;P < 1189307197 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's how I work. Occasionally, I'll forget part of what I was going to say and say something similar but different instead.) < 1189307197 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would go INSANE without some sort of social environment
< 1189307214 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's why I'm always on IRC... < 1189307223 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant face2face < 1189307230 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discipline is something I'm sort of lacking in. < 1189307237 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, me too. < 1189307240 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, WFH is prfetty easy, and you get one day in house at my particular job to maintain social interaction < 1189307241 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spanks himself....
< 1189307247 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WFH? < 1189307254 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fuck huh? < 1189307256 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189307265 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :working from home < 1189307266 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work from home, also calld telecommuting < 1189307277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-mordant: Working is a lot like school, except school provides you with a few hours of homework on the side. < 1189307289 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably quite lucky that I'm able to get good grades without hard work... < 1189307294 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...while work provides you with a lot more than a few < 1189307314 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and doesn't pay you < 1189307318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: True. < 1189307336 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if people were more sensible they would say it's a waste of time < 1189307344 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit of math class last year concerning conic sections sort of hit me hard. I'd sort of been used to already knowing everything they teach in math class. < 1189307346 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-mordant: I typically end up showing up at school at about 6 and get home at about 5. < 1189307351 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A WASTE OF TIME! < 1189307352 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :D < 1189307356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(largely because of rides, but still. . .) < 1189307364 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how I manage to learn things before they're taught in math class. < 1189307371 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: beats my old schedule of showing up at 7 and getting home at 7 < 1189307377 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: Barely. < 1189307378 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, s/5/10/ and s/school/work/ and you might start getting the hint < 1189307381 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then having a couple hours of homework... < 1189307393 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION read Algebra the Easy Way, Trigonometry the Easy Way, and Calculus the Easy Way
< 1189307433 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to bed at like 12~2 and getting up at 5... < 1189307439 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like 5:40 < 1189307449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-mordant: You're working 16 hours a day?!? < 1189307462 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, joys of mandatory overtime < 1189307482 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quit, sue, stop being the corporation's bitch. < 1189307487 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joys of time-and-a-half < 1189307489 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, math class doesn't teach me anything I didn't already know, Spanish class is way too easy, history class somehow manages to consist entirely of taking notes, and science class is... often redundant. < 1189307501 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, suing. < 1189307510 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labor laws are silly. < 1189307516 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189307542 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I'm often against having opinions, but everything has to be said by somebody.) < 1189307544 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, + $5/hr incentive < 1189307555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be sure to tell that to people killing themselves by working too much. < 1189307586 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we have laws to make up for shortcomings of the human mind? < 1189307601 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's what, say, banning recreational drugs is all about. < 1189307601 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already do? < 1189307627 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drug laws are baaaad < 1189307654 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm all for being able to get away from laws. < 1189307675 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have this job on a 9 month plan, if what I fear appens in 9 months, I'll be quitting anyways, so it'll work itself out < 1189307685 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming the world consists only of the United States, federal laws are often... yes, baaaad. < 1189307714 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, though, there are, in fact, countries other than the United States. < 1189307725 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is my comma density high enough yet?) < 1189307767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was working on a bot for another channel, and instead of outputting a list of nicks sensibly < 1189307777 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would go like "D, e, m, o, b, o, t" < 1189307792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would like to congratulate the US on going back to the 1800's in terms of labor practices.
< 1189307929 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I said yet that I'm waiting for the school district density to increase a bit? < 1189307954 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, thank India and Mexico for that. companies that had tolerable policies outsourced to india < 1189307976 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should move to India. < 1189308008 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not like we can just treat people in India worse than people in the US, not that they necessarily do. < 1189308028 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they don't, I don't need to know that. < 1189308080 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, apparntly in my job, if a customer complains twice within the same call about their accent, it's a firing, no warning < 1189308105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just knows that people such as g4lt-mordant are getting screwed hard by 1800's labor laws
< 1189308191 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking that the problem is that people don't have enough people that want to hire them. < 1189308218 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a mailbox full of job offers. Then again, I'm not supposed to, seeing as how I'm still in high school. < 1189308241 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a mailbox full of letters from other high schools, either. < 1189308298 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I understand that high schools aren't very aggressive about these things. < 1189308311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly not *public* high schools. ;) < 1189308316 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1189308361 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in an alternative sort of high school program this year
< 1189308370 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the government doesn't just say "for every satisfactory student-year, we'll give you this much money" and let school districts do whatever they want otherwise. < 1189308377 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternative sort of high school program? < 1189308402 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get to do most of my work independently < 1189308409 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only in 2 classroom classes < 1189308422 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1189308430 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of them is hardly a class < 1189308474 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then 2 online classes and 2 independent studies < 1189308520 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, online classes! < 1189308531 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the US have any online school districts? < 1189308610 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completly online? definately not < 1189308617 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How online do they get? < 1189308666 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wanted to, i could take all my classes online, assuming they were offered < 1189308759 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone thought I was india < 1189308768 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I was in the US < 1189308781 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have no accent < 1189308829 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indian accents rock < 1189308875 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what sort of accent I have < 1189308878 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't indian :P < 1189308933 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION moves too damned much
< 1189309035 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would be much more motivated to go to bed if I knew I'd be able to fall asleep. < 1189309077 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, bed motivation < 1189309107 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the texbook! < 1189309157 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: you'll be more motivated to go to bed when you're EXHAUSTED like I usually am after being up for 30 hours... < 1189309167 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1189309168 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-144-189.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1189309171 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too. < 1189309172 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi GreaseMonkey < 1189309179 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't be able to do anything for like 2 days after that < 1189309187 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo < 1189309193 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's da greasy-moneky-man! allo. < 1189309208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything else I need to do with PSOX? < 1189309316 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches the chat wither away and die..
< 1189309317 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. < 1189309418 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dies* < 1189309421 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*potato* < 1189309721 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments on http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox-new-cat.b ? < 1189309858 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1189309873 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1189309874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Figs, ihope, GreaseMonkey? < 1189309886 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments on the example PSOX application? < 1189309886 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a mo < 1189309891 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand it < 1189309891 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189309894 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psox no < 1189309900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne ideo. < 1189309910 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt < 1189309938 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it supposed to *do*? < 1189309957 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX, or the example? < 1189309966 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is PSOX? < 1189309977 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the example < 1189309985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a cat program < 1189309989 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1189309993 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes input and copies it to output < 1189310017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX is an API for languages like Brainf*** to access files and do networking stuff etc.. < 1189310033 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1189310039 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Dave2se < 1189310064 0 :Dave2se!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1189310129 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Members of the sect believe that to reach eternal salvation, men are supposed to have at least three wives." < 1189310130 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1189310135 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/us/09polygamy.html?ex=1346990400&en=05ce6c8a4355ddff&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss < 1189310185 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189310304 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, mormons? < 1189310383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A branch thereof, yes. < 1189310393 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wifes/lays/ < 1189310426 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1189310510 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a mormon once < 1189310528 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was wearing tight pants with "MOR MON" wrote across her ass < 1189310575 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in that respect they have one thing good on scientologists < 1189310618 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mormons, like any other religion, have their complete and utter nutcases. < 1189310621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: Is PSOX ready for 1.0? < 1189310622 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has become evil < 1189310627 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want to put up video ads < 1189310628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientology is composed *of* the nutcases. :p < 1189310628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, eh? < 1189310630 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189310630 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to wired < 1189310660 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/09/google-discusse.html?cid=82080045 < 1189310660 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, live in SE Idaho or utah for a while, you'll realize that mormons alre all nutcase as well < 1189310702 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-mordant: Perhaps the ones in Utah are nutcases. < 1189310729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly, merely judging from their theology, it does seem a tiny bit nutsy) < 1189310732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1189310737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad's being an a**hole < 1189310744 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1189310746 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1189310920 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs_ < 1189310940 0 :Figs_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs < 1189313660 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1189313771 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1189314258 0 :g4lt-mordant!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :g4lt-sb100 < 1189314318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You named in honor of Strong Bad's 100th email? < 1189314348 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got 100? < 1189314354 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should see my gmail inbox... < 1189314361 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :686 at present < 1189314424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's answered 175 by now. < 1189314507 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds more accurate < 1189315419 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun blade 100, BTW < 1189315445 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, why think or anything? < 1189315462 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun blade? < 1189315507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do Suns, but I'm a Homestar Runner addict. ;) < 1189315664 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a g4lt, though? < 1189315670 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greater for less than? < 1189315673 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question? < 1189315714 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :galt? < 1189315748 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe that conversationh has degenereated to my fucking nickname < 1189315748 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a galt? < 1189315801 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g4lt-sb100: I guess we're just out of topics? < 1189315808 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scientific.org/articles/JFS%20excerpt.htm <-- we could talk about this instead < 1189315858 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders making the xkcd 90 joke
< 1189315901 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the ass switching? < 1189315906 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking-jacket? :P < 1189315911 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet ass-car? :P < 1189315965 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, fucking nickname. < 1189315967 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"False positives can also arise due to misinterpretation of test results. One such error led to the false conviction of Timothy Durham (14, 17) . In 1993 a Tulsa Oklahoma jury convicted Durham of the rape of an 11-year-old girl. He was sentenced to 3000 years in prison." < 1189315985 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he'll actually serve that. < 1189316032 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1993 a Tulsa Oklahoma jury convicted Durham of the rape of an 11-year-old girl. He was sentenced to 3000 years in prison. ... Durham presented eleven witnesses who placed him in another state at the time of the crime, but the jury rejected his alibi defense." < 1189316037 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189316043 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see your quote :P < 1189316064 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was released in 1997 < 1189316067 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read down < 1189316069 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just invite immortality. < 1189316081 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he only served a 750th of his sentence? < 1189316093 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!calc 4/3000 < 1189316096 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189316099 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1189316119 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to only have to serve a 750th of any jail sentences I get... < 1189316142 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives you a sentance of 750 lifetimes...
< 1189316149 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'oh. < 1189316151 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can serve 1/750 of it < 1189316153 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189316159 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the longest sentence anybody's ever gotten was. < 1189316176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Only 1 gives you a chance of release with good behavior, IIRC. < 1189316195 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multipe lifetimes without parole. :P < 1189316218 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a sentence of 3000 years actually different from a double life sentence? < 1189316227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, no. < 1189316249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as far as I know) < 1189316304 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anybody's ever been sentenced past the end of the universe. < 1189316327 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris might have served a double one of those. :-P < 1189316344 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'oh < 1189316364 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know but people have gotten 3+ lifetimes, I think < 1189316383 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though once you get a lifetime without parole, what's the point of having more of them?) < 1189316393 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1189316449 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/long45.html < 1189316460 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dudley Wayne Kyzer was jailed for 10,000 years by a court in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, in 1981 for murdering his wife." http://www.thatsweird.net/history5.shtml < 1189316461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that point, you can only get worse with a death sentence. < 1189316483 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189316511 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1994 Oklahoma rapist Darron Bennalford Anderson received a 2,200-year jail sentence. When he appealed and won a new trial, he was convicted again and resentenced to more than 90 additional centuries behind bars - including 4,000 years each for rape and sodomy, 1,750 years for kidnapping, 1,000 years for burglary and robbery, and 500 years for grand larceny." http://www.thatsweird.net/history5. < 1189316513 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shtml < 1189316540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit excessive. < 1189316552 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the requested sentace against Gabtriel march grandos was 384,912 < 1189316561 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he only got 7,109 < 1189316572 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He was charged with 42,768 instances of failing to deliver letters. I think I know how we got the term 'Postal' now." < 1189316589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wouldn't the *additional sentencing upon appeal* be a matter of double jeapordy? < 1189316613 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely, an appeal by the defendant would either strike down a sentence or uphold it? < 1189316619 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously not) < 1189316669 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the new trail part is what did it. he got a neew trial, they found him guiltier if you will < 1189316681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1189316694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's dual jeapordy, I feel. < 1189316779 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you feel something that isn't the case. if he gets a new trail, he gets a new trial, it's as if the other one never existed < 1189316785 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9773662-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad <--- BWAHAHAHAHAHA < 1189316797 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft campaign against itself :P < 1189316806 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the definition of dual jeapordy. . . < 1189316925 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thing, it's DOUBLE jeopardy, if you're going to mindlessly parade around something, at lest get the name right. second, double jeopardy means you cannot bee tried twice for the same crime, therefore accourding to your definition, the second trial should have never been granted. the defendant waived that right to get the trial in the first place < 1189316946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My apologies. < 1189316985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm arguing what I think should have happened, not what did happen. Clearly, he did get the second trial, and got screwed for it. < 1189317007 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only person he has to blame is himself, since he asked for it < 1189317010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just having the additional trial determine if the sentence should be brought down. < 1189317042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, if new evidence came up and he got convicted of completely new things, then that's a completely different issue) < 1189317078 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's the problem, innit? he asked for a new trial, he got one, it turned out worse. sucks tobe him < 1189317186 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, digg sucks < 1189317202 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I click on a link... site's totally dead < 1189317206 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back, < 1189317213 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now the number of diggs has jumped by 30 < 1189317213 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :claimng double jeopardy in his case is wrong, as HE asked for the second trial < 1189317218 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf?!?! < 1189317236 0 :g4lt-sb100!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, it took you this long to find out? I use SU < 1189317247 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use reddit < 1189317253 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but occasionally I still look on digg < 1189317286 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use SU, but they changed something in the way their toolbar works, and it stopped working right for me < 1189317291 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what exactly < 1189317315 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was just too large and I was loosing screen space < 1189317323 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of something they added) < 1189317493 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1189317514 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know you've had too much of "web 2.0" when you start looking for the "reply" button on bash quotes >.< < 1189318080 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to bed or not go to bed? < 1189318140 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf <. < 1189318151 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1189318154 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Figs: ps < 1189318175 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rand < 1189318178 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189318212 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, right a prng in brainfuck! < 1189318494 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prng? < 1189318504 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189318514 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo random number generator :P < 1189318520 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net/jon/media/bush/ < 1189318812 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to bed A.) Now B.) After watching a movie < 1189318876 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(getupearly? now : later)(); < 1189318899 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :provided that now, later are function pointers, and getupearly equates to a boolean < 1189318903 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getupearly is not boolean < 1189318918 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getuptime is more appropriate < 1189318942 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CanSleepEnough(getuptime) ? now : later)(); < 1189318950 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getuptime == 10am < 1189318955 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time()? < 1189318961 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:22 < 1189319018 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(timediff(curr_time+length_of_movie,getuptime)>=8.5 ? now : later)(); < 1189319032 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189319087 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189319105 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be later < 1189319108 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's cold in here :( < 1189319337 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!canthinkforself() ? googlelucky("potato").imagesearch().firstpage.contains(nudity) ? gotobed : stayup)(); < 1189319351 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nudity of what < 1189319351 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/&& < 1189319360 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoes < 1189319694 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaag < 1189319705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accidently downloaded the french version :( < 1189319746 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of potato nudity? < 1189319762 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nudity knows no language bounds... even potato nudity! < 1189320599 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1189321171 0 :viciousparrots!n=viciousp@adsl-216-102-107-230.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189321239 0 :viciousparrots!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could someone please add 37 an 47 and tell me the answer? < 1189321328 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what base? < 1189321329 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189321341 0 :viciousparrots!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :base 10 < 1189321363 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :84? < 1189321372 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing some trick here? < 1189321380 0 :viciousparrots!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really < 1189321407 0 :viciousparrots!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like pulling up my calculator ;) < 1189321410 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah :P < 1189321419 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a calculator in my command prompt :) < 1189322495 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1189322799 0 :viciousparrots!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189324685 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Man who stand in frond of car is tired. Man who stand behind car is exhausted." < 1189324799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1189324800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1189325709 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1189325734 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189327721 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1189332229 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1189340020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189340597 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-185-084.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1189341413 0 :feesh!n=feesh@unaffiliated/feesh JOIN :#esoteric < 1189342172 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189342760 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5af069d2.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1189342824 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189343426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ihope) The bit of math class last year concerning conic sections sort of hit me hard. I'd sort of been used to already knowing everything they teach in math class. <<< i'm last year @ high school, and learning about the basics of integration... < 1189343431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard "conic section" < 1189343945 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189344081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one really needs a calculator :P < 1189345188 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5af069d2.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1189345322 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive? < 1189345722 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189345990 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189346673 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see nobod yis alive =) < 1189346818 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kinda < 1189346830 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm too tired to think :< < 1189346851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try simple SVO sentences and i may catch some of them. < 1189346955 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is always good ol' feesh < 1189346992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh? i now know 4 fishy nicks. < 1189346998 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 5 < 1189347023 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: maybe hard for me ;p < 1189347029 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh has nothing to do with fish < 1189347035 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually more abouce feces < 1189347073 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish feces < 1189347111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feesh is pretty fishy, no matter where it's derived :) < 1189347151 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair does I guess :p < 1189347216 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway < 1189347222 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is more awake than SVO-sentence level ;) < 1189347570 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189347864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1189347923 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189349455 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1189349467 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-049-166.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1189351006 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189352075 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189353752 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone awake? < 1189354370 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1189354667 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1189354677 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189354698 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises he uses #esoteric for a lot of "here's a technology-related idea, let's discuss it" insetad of "here's an esoteric-technology-related idea, let's discuss it"
< 1189354703 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should stop that ;p < 1189354732 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1189354735 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting quite annoying now < 1189354829 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1189356156 0 :QS_E!n=e@cpc1-port3-0-0-cust728.cos2.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1189356163 0 :QS_E!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1189358694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm much more awake now < 1189358706 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1189358706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 hours of sleep does that sometimes < 1189358712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now swedish! :) < 1189358715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1189358723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no "yay" :< < 1189358727 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1189358736 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1189358762 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bbiab dinner" < 1189359324 0 :Grognor!n=chatzill@fl-76-1-171-245.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189359332 0 :Grognor!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1189359815 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189359819 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1189360863 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189361028 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=) < 1189361325 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-73-71.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1189362224 0 :fizzie!n=fis@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1189362374 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1189364020 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1189364105 0 :nooga!i=nooga@xdsl-6552.lubin.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1189364110 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hello < 1189364115 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1189364171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YO < 1189364257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen TECO ? :D < 1189364340 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1189364455 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/TECO.html example < 1189364466 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1 J^P$L$$ < 1189364467 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J <.-Z; .,(S,$ -D .)FX1 @F^B $K :L I $ G1 L>$$ < 1189364508 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_Editor_and_Corrector generally < 1189364537 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TECO < 1189364584 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really eso < 1189364597 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was built to be usable editor, lol < 1189364634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, but you can get much more concise out of that much obscurity < 1189364645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oklotalk!) < 1189364660 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_Editor_and_Corrector#Example_3 < 1189364670 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just check that out < 1189364682 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like white noise mapped to ascii < 1189364694 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1189364715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1189364762 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#F#@!1[A]~$ < 1189364934 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention it's quite ancient < 1189364941 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIABRA = TIABRA is a backronymed recursive acronym < 1189365445 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIAB = BIAB is a backronym ;) < 1189365553 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1189367254 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive acronyms like RALRAA aren't arbitrary. < 1189367434 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1189367808 0 :MichaelRaskin_!n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1189367845 0 :MichaelRaskin_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1189367864 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye..." < 1189368508 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope hopes other people eat < 1189368520 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes recursive acronyms like SRALSTSTCUW take some thinking to come up with. < 1189368548 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script it < 1189368553 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, WWDTMETCUW didn't take much effort to come up with. < 1189368570 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to calculate them lazily. < 1189368591 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, (Well, WWDTMETCUW didn't take much effort to come up with.) didn't take much effort to come up with. < 1189368605 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest, random acronyms like TBHRALTSARAA sometimes aren't random at all. < 1189368605 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, (Well, (Well, WWDTMETCUW didn't take much effort to come up with.) didn't take much effort to come up with.) didn't take much effort to come up with. < 1189368630 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope ihiitlaitt is the last acronym in this thread... < 1189368663 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think the recursive acronyms (like NITTRALNWNS) will never stop. < 1189368700 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIARA is a recursive acronym < 1189368711 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is SIS. < 1189368718 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Already taken actually, but as TIARA < 1189368720 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIS is short. < 1189368745 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive RA. < 1189368758 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y f = f (y f) < 1189368773 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIARA isn't a recursive acronym. < 1189368782 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for "GPL isn't a recursive acronym". < 1189368782 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ehird`) Recursive RA. <<< wrong < 1189368788 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no < 1189368790 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, yes < 1189368796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you can hardly call that an acronym. < 1189368831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y f = f (\x -> y f x) < 1189368832 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another - AARR!! - recursive rendition? < 1189368841 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, call by value < 1189368849 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1189368853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ acronym < 1189368862 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another - aargh! - recursive geometrical haystack? < 1189368865 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ i might use that < 1189368903 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive acronyms, like RALRAF, are fun. < 1189368904 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol kicks lazy oklopol's penis or leg < 1189368926 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood says... no, i can't be arsed < 1189368928 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1189368930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood is a stick in my burrow < 1189368951 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biasimb? < 1189368969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! < 1189368975 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, random words < 1189368976 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood says "Mountain? No! To bsmntbombdood only must burrow. Deadly ogling owls die." < 1189369005 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1189369041 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird hates insanely rounded dragons < 1189369063 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is kicking high quaters. < 1189369089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being sick may never tire bsmntbombdood, or maybe being dense opens other doors < 1189369091 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC is moving only north, recursively - cool! < 1189369110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really tried to make sense, but i just lack too much vocabulary :< < 1189369124 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan eats randy jam and neverland < 1189369165 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot goes on, building offtopic translations. < 1189369170 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that one's actually true < 1189369189 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme mostly eats maggots - eww < 1189369191 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog logs our goings-on < 1189369199 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that one's good < 1189369224 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR reads empowering goings-on, or readily replies. < 1189369256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ololobot lives only literally, overtly banning over terrain. < 1189369329 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons < 1189369337 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HURD of Interfaces Representing Depth < 1189369344 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That pair's a weird one. < 1189369350 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird of unix-replacing daemons < 1189369359 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :empowering ehird of interfaces representing depth < 1189369423 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth < 1189369435 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HURD of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth < 1189369446 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth < 1189369460 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HURD of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth of Unix-Replacing Daemons of Interfaces Representing Depth < 1189369468 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE < 1189369510 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely, I enter elephants' egregious earth-eating eruditely . . . < 1189369526 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not recursive < 1189369542 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, I enter elephants' egregious earth-eating eruditely . . . < 1189369552 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :collaborative project idea: alphabet poem < 1189369553 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 lines < 1189369556 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on first line, < 1189369559 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all words start with A < 1189369560 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second, B < 1189369561 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1189369588 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Actually, alliteration angers all? :p < 1189369590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189369605 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really hard to design something like TECO < 1189369610 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga only "OK"s graphically, also. < 1189369675 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope hinders operatic, paleontological expeditions? < 1189369762 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this alphabet poem thing is actually pretty easy < 1189369769 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's two lines: Actually, alliteration angers all/But - bemusingly - big blasts bother < 1189369769 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189369772 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no plot, hooray < 1189369793 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can cats categorize cations? < 1189369805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, all starting with ca(t). < 1189369875 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do dastardly doodles ? < 1189369906 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently everything esoteric enters egregiousness < 1189369935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(recursive, too :) ) < 1189369956 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need something for < 1189369987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :denotate diversions? < 1189369992 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1189370051 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four fiddle-playing fathers? XD < 1189370250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four fiddle-playing fathers fake fornication < 1189370299 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good - great gullible ghouls. < 1189370318 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H must involve H2S04 ;p < 1189370463 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone do h < 1189370480 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H2S04 hardly helps health < 1189370547 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: e? < 1189370568 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Evidently everything esoteric enters egregiousness. < 1189370593 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imitate Incans, < 1189370593 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just jolly, Jeremiah. < 1189370597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should have said "evolves" instead of "enters" :( < 1189370617 0 :tombom!i=tombom@82.26.201.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189370699 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need one for esoteric < 1189370710 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1189370763 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ? < 1189370766 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm tired or drunken, or i just don't get what are you talking about now :D < 1189370772 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an acronym < 1189370806 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, so only teabags esoteric really in cool. < 1189370807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard < 1189370808 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189370815 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one fails < 1189370999 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“yes < 1189371068 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kraken keys, um... < 1189371079 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf < 1189371081 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Krakens're key. :-P < 1189371082 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bff < 1189371085 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189371086 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfff < 1189371089 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189371090 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1189371093 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1189371101 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!~bff~ < 1189371103 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189371110 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !"1! < 1189371112 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++. < 1189371113 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1189371115 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M^ < 1189371133 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !"1!sadol works? < 1189371135 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM: Parsing: Unexpected end of file (index: 16, row: 1, col: 17) < 1189371137 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1189371140 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :d < 1189371142 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric seems otherwise to easily run in circles < 1189371146 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !"1! < 1189371149 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1189371151 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is sadol < 1189371154 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol < 1189371159 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help sadol < 1189371161 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To use an interpreter: Note: can be the actual program, an http:// URL, or a file:// URL which refers to my pseudofilesystem. < 1189371214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: check the wiki < 1189371252 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !",213Hello, world! < 1189371255 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1189371258 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1189371269 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what a crazy string literal ",213Hello, world! is. < 1189371330 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it doesn't need escapes. < 1189371397 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189371401 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i can make the notation crazier < 1189371419 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, ( to push a call < 1189371467 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ~ is "pop if the function has been given enough arguments, otherwise change X into (X )" (:a3 < 1189371467 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol (7:C",228!R!C!"7822,"R:!R!"9822,"C:7(:R",228(7:C",2289"!R!:R",2287"!C!RR!C!"7822,"R:!R!"9822,"C:7( < 1189371469 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM: Parsing: Unexpected end of file (index: 98, row: 1, col: 99) < 1189371474 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no ( < 1189371484 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts off as () < 1189371499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189371505 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1189371518 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a~bc~ < 1189371521 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189371523 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like that < 1189371525 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about < 1189371528 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes into ( X) < 1189371537 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc~a~ < 1189371539 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1189371549 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's (a (b c)) < 1189371570 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189371591 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rld~wo~hello < 1189371596 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's (hello (wo) rld) < 1189371636 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rld~wo~~lo~he~~~wo < 1189371641 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's (((he) lo) (wo) rld) < 1189371650 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy eh? :) < 1189371667 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1189371670 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be < 1189371677 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189371728 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beginning = () and ~ = "if list has sufficient arguments, pop from list. otherwise, change list X into ( X)" is enough to express any sexpr right? < 1189372104 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol (4:C",216!"9(4:C",216!C!C!"9(4:C",216!C!C < 1189372107 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4:C",216!"9(4:C",216!C!C!"9(4:C",216!C!C < 1189372185 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1189372234 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189372238 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ = change to end of list < 1189372351 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189372489 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world;hello~!@2 = (! (hello world) 2) < 1189372502 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pasted http://pastie.textmate.org/private/et5hd0myxvbjmzujdydf0w
< 1189372507 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ rules < 1189372511 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a damn esoteric program format ;) < 1189372568 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure that can handle all lists < 1189372793 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1189372798 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to represent (a b (c d) e f (g h (i j)) k) in it < 1189372800 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't seem to < 1189372947 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189372962 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189373678 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1189373824 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that "clog logs our garbage" works better
< 1189373903 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Alliteration < 1189373928 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alliteration articulates an artistic and alacritous approach aimed at annotating and arranging alphabetic accoutrements as alarmingly affective alignments." etc < 1189373981 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1189374032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i insist it is infinitely improved if it includes initialism in its index < 1189374046 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189374061 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i do so without even looking at the page < 1189374770 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189375446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1189375533 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Affective? < 1189375546 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that in my spellchecker's dictionary? < 1189375567 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its a word < 1189375572 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1189375597 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random software musing, kinda esoteric: people make games in a day, but what about 1-hour games? you find a team, and have an hour to design and implement a game xD < 1189375693 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the relation between continuation-passing style and stack-based postfix notation
< 1189375722 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stack-based postfix notation as in "2 3 +" means "push 2; push 3; pop twice, add, and push". < 1189375732 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: easy, you just need 12 times as many people working on it < 1189375772 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I guess, whether CPS can turn that into "+ 2 3 output". < 1189375785 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: heh < 1189375794 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: seriously, people do 1-day games that are quite elaborate < 1189375801 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: and 7-day games that seem like they took months < 1189375816 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: a good game could probably be made by 3-4 people in an hour < 1189375825 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is all you need! Maybe. < 1189375972 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Go contains an NP-complete problem.
< 1189376004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P-space complete, actually < 1189376038 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go contains /everything/ < 1189376039 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is presumably even harder) < 1189376066 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally don't get go < 1189376074 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like they tried to create an incomprehensible game < 1189376087 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they /were/ trying to create a model of computation, though, like they did < 1189376090 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W < 1189376091 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T < 1189376091 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F < 1189376098 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woogles < 1189376099 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten < 1189376101 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fidle < 1189376103 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fiddle < 1189376111 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a trivial game < 1189376116 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much simpler than chess < 1189376121 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get chess < 1189376123 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get go < 1189376142 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put down pieces and the are catured if surrounded < 1189376147 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard is that? < 1189376160 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not that simple.. < 1189376200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGSPACE <= NLOGSPACE <= PTIME <= NPTIME <= PSPACE, NLOGSPACE != PSPACE and all other between unknown < 1189376223 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1189376241 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: really? I never noticed in all my time playing. < 1189376264 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a little to argue about in the claiming of territory, but that's about it < 1189376265 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, from the rules i've seen - even the "simple" versions - its a lot more complex than that < 1189376275 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point me to some < 1189376289 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_Go? < 1189376399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Go may have simple rules (it's a bit more complex than you make it out to be, though), but its strategy is anything but. < 1189376412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very much an emergent game. < 1189376451 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be useless at Go even if I grokked the rules I suspect < 1189376467 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it just takes practice < 1189376472 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1189376481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm decent at chess, and barely even know how to *play* Go. < 1189376485 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots and lots of practice < 1189376498 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm lame at all board games < 1189376499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1189376505 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subtlties of Go are no worse than those of chess < 1189376528 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tend to be fairly obvious, or at least the type of thing that you forget to mention because they are obvious < 1189376542 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, infinite loops are bad, hence the Ko rule < 1189376557 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to stop at some point, hence passing and seki < 1189376573 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like infinite loops < 1189376579 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're infiniteloopist < 1189376613 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suicide is quite easy to remember as well < 1189376675 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to learn the lot, you just need a club < 1189376738 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get taught the basic concepts at first, then lose dozens of games in stupid ways to learn the basic stratergy, while being taught the subtlties as they become necessary in your games < 1189376778 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the amount of practice is sfficient that you need a real passion for it if you are going to get high up < 1189376789 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to be a nutter < 1189376881 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and suicide is quite easy to remember as well" you only need to know it once < 1189376884 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badumtish < 1189377445 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242436641.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1189379163 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189381943 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189382381 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it is spelt "*rimshot*"